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Thraktor said:
Furukawa confirming that the Switch's early initial announcement was a special case, and we shouldn't expect the same for the next hardware.
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This is a significant statement, at least for our discussion here on these boards. Some members have been hung up on the idea that it is necessary for Nintendo to announce far out in advance of release, and use the Switch/NX early announcement as a basis for their argument. Here we have have the president of Nintendo saying exactly what many of us here have said, Switch/NX was announced in advance because of the DeNA partnership to reassure everyone that Nintendo was not exiting the console business. Switch wasn't really revealed until October 2016 with a March release, roughly a four month lead up. If we are being honest with ourselves, do you really think the average consumer was aware of "NX"? Other than the hardcore gamers who frequent gaming sites and forums, 95% of people had no clue about Switch until Nintendo started advertising it. The turn around time for Switch Lite and OLED were also very short. At this point, there is more precedent for a reveal to launch being 4-6 months rather than over a year. In the modern world, it doesnt take very long to spread the word, and it will be months after release before Nintendo can supply enough units to the point where consumers can just walk into the store and buy one.

Bosintang said:
It's an extremely low hanging fruit to guess that MP4 would release within 12 months of the remaster, probably before the holidays even.
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100% Once Nintendo stealth dropped Metroid Prime Remaster, my expectation for Prime 4 in 2023 went through the roof. Prime Remastered was always intended to help bolster demand for Prime 4. I could see Nintendo positioning Prime 4 as the holiday title this year. Give it the best chance for success as possible. I could see Prime 2 & 3 being eshop only $20 each, and basically just a HD upres. Probably drop those at the next Nintendo Direct.
 
As many already cautioned, let's wait for the official English transcript of the earnings Q&A. Just to kill the time though, here are some preliminary observations based on my limited Japanese reading skill:
  • The investors knew that if they asked a direct question regarding the next gen, Nintendo wouldn't have told them anything. So the way Q4 and Q7 were phrased was kind of crafty. It seems that they succeeded, because the answers were a little more interesting than usual. See below.
  • Q4 posited that since the "annual play users" had been growing, it might not be necessary to release a new model to keep growing the user base. To which Furuwaka replied that he does not think releasing a new model would not be necessary to maintain the number of annual play users.
  • Furukawa reiterated that when migrating to the next hardware, it will be an important agenda (not "a challenge" as Google translated it) to maintain a high number of customers playing "Nintendo consoles".
    • I found it interesting that he didn't specifically say "Switch" or the new hardware, but Nintendo consoles in totality.
  • Yesterday some outlets reported that Furukawa called the 15MM hardware sales goals a "stretch". That word is struck from the official record. In the Q6 transcript, he is documented saying that they don't consider 15MM an easy goal to achieve, "however" (he used the word immediately after) the Mario movie and TotK may help accelerate the Switch sales.
    • To me it doesn't read like a lack of confidence but the opposite.
  • Q7 asked if Nintendo thinks that it'd be necessary to announce the next gen two-year ahead just like the NX announcement. Furukawa replied that NX was an "unique" case; Nintendo will release information at an appropriate timing to reach a wide audience.
    • Nowadays it doesn't take long for information to spread. Looking at Nintendo's hardware and software announcements in recent years, the lead time tends to be shorter than in the past.
  • The official transcript does not specify whether the 15MM forecast include a new model or not. It might have been struck from the record, or some people reported a personal assumption as fact.
 
fwd-bwd said:
As many already cautioned, let's wait for the official English transcript of the earnings Q&A. Just to kill the time though, here are some preliminary observations based on my limited Japanese reading skill:
  • The investors knew that if they asked a direct question regarding the next gen, Nintendo wouldn't have told them anything. So the way Q4 and Q7 were phrased was kind of crafty. It seems that they succeeded, because the answers were a little more interesting than usual. See below.
  • Q4 posited that since the "annual play users" had been growing, it might not be necessary to release a new model to keep growing the user base. To which Furuwaka replied that he does not think releasing a new model would not be necessary to maintain the number of annual play users.
  • Furukawa reiterated that when migrating to the next hardware, it will be an important agenda (not "a challenge" as Google translated it) to maintain a high number of customers playing "Nintendo consoles".
    • I found it interesting that he didn't specifically say "Switch" or the new hardware, but Nintendo consoles in totality.
  • Yesterday some outlets reported that Furukawa called the 15MM hardware sales goals a "stretch". That word is struck from the official record. In the Q6 transcript, he is documented saying that they don't consider 15MM an easy goal to achieve, "however" (he used the word immediately after) the Mario movie and TotK may help accelerate the Switch sales.
    • To me it doesn't read like a lack of confidence but the opposite.
  • Q7 asked if Nintendo thinks that it'd be necessary to announce the next gen two-year ahead just like the NX announcement. Furukawa replied that NX was an "unique" case; Nintendo will release information at an appropriate timing to reach a wide audience.
    • Nowadays it doesn't take long for information to spread. Looking at Nintendo's hardware and software announcements in recent years, the lead time tends to be shorter than in the past.
  • The official transcript does not specify whether the 15MM forecast include a new model or not. It might have been struck from the record, or some people reported a personal assumption as fact.
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Thanks for your effort, as always.
 
oldpuck said:
BC is never an easy problem, literally every system faces difficulties. It's just how high the hill is and how much incentive there is to climb it.

MVG is correct in his overall assessment of what the challenges are for backwards compatibility on Drake, and I don't think anyone who understands the situation would disagree there. There is great disagreement on how big those challenges are.

To push the metaphor too far, I think there is disagreement with MVG on how high the hill is, but broad agreement on the lay of the land?

The incentives for climbing that hill are a question none of us can answer. The longer the Switch generation, the more and more Nintendo can get away with a clean next-gen break. On the other hand, Nintendo is signaling strongly that they don't want to start from scratch building their install base with the next system, or that they want to support a whole new storefront for every platform they build. That points strongly towards Nintendo wanting BC.

It will all come down to how much money Nintendo is willing to throw at the problem, and to a lesser extent, how Nintendo plans on doing power management on REDACTED. Emulation is something that can benefit hugely from modest increases in CPU clock speed, and so what Nintendo can do, and how smoothly, will partially depend on how much extra CPU power they can scrounge up.
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Great response, thank you ☺️
 
fwd-bwd said:
As many already cautioned, let's wait for the official English transcript of the earnings Q&A. Just to kill the time though, here are some preliminary observations based on my limited Japanese reading skill:
  • The investors knew that if they asked a direct question regarding the next gen, Nintendo wouldn't have told them anything. So the way Q4 and Q7 were phrased was kind of crafty. It seems that they succeeded, because the answers were a little more interesting than usual. See below.
  • Q4 posited that since the "annual play users" had been growing, it might not be necessary to release a new model to keep growing the user base. To which Furuwaka replied that he does not think releasing a new model would not be necessary to maintain the number of annual play users.
  • Furukawa reiterated that when migrating to the next hardware, it will be an important agenda (not "a challenge" as Google translated it) to maintain a high number of customers playing "Nintendo consoles".
    • I found it interesting that he didn't specifically say "Switch" or the new hardware, but Nintendo consoles in totality.
  • Yesterday some outlets reported that Furukawa called the 15MM hardware sales goals a "stretch". That word is struck from the official record. In the Q6 transcript, he is documented saying that they don't consider 15MM an easy goal to achieve, "however" (he used the word immediately after) the Mario movie and TotK may help accelerate the Switch sales.
    • To me it doesn't read like a lack of confidence but the opposite.
  • Q7 asked if Nintendo thinks that it'd be necessary to announce the next gen two-year ahead just like the NX announcement. Furukawa replied that NX was an "unique" case; Nintendo will release information at an appropriate timing to reach a wide audience.
    • Nowadays it doesn't take long for information to spread. Looking at Nintendo's hardware and software announcements in recent years, the lead time tends to be shorter than in the past.
  • The official transcript does not specify whether the 15MM forecast include a new model or not. It might have been struck from the record, or some people reported a personal assumption as fact.
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And that's why we don't trust 'journalists'
 
Goodtwin said:
This is a significant statement, at least for our discussion here on these boards. Some members have been hung up on the idea that it is necessary for Nintendo to announce far out in advance of release, and use the Switch/NX early announcement as a basis for their argument. Here we have have the president of Nintendo saying exactly what many of us here have said, Switch/NX was announced in advance because of the DeNA partnership to reassure everyone that Nintendo was not exiting the console business. Switch wasn't really revealed until October 2016 with a March release, roughly a four month lead up. If we are being honest with ourselves, do you really think the average consumer was aware of "NX"? Other than the hardcore gamers who frequent gaming sites and forums, 95% of people had no clue about Switch until Nintendo started advertising it. The turn around time for Switch Lite and OLED were also very short. At this point, there is more precedent for a reveal to launch being 4-6 months rather than over a year. In the modern world, it doesnt take very long to spread the word, and it will be months after release before Nintendo can supply enough units to the point where consumers can just walk into the store and buy one.



100% Once Nintendo stealth dropped Metroid Prime Remaster, my expectation for Prime 4 in 2023 went through the roof. Prime Remastered was always intended to help bolster demand for Prime 4. I could see Nintendo positioning Prime 4 as the holiday title this year. Give it the best chance for success as possible. I could see Prime 2 & 3 being eshop only $20 each, and basically just a HD upres. Probably drop those at the next Nintendo Direct.
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I mean, he mostly just ruled out a 2 year announcement to reveal cycle which I don't think anyone was expecting.

I'm very much expecting an announcement in January to March 2024 and then a release November 2024.
 
What I took away from the Q&A session.
'The Switch is still in good shape, the Mario movie is doing much better than expected, we are financially free to postpone the announcement of future hardware as much as we want.
The early NX announcement was due to a different context, this time around we will choose the best timing too reach the largest audience at once.'

It does not close any scenario. That info in itself make H2 2023 still strong (it's not copium I swear).
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I mean, he mostly just ruled out a 2 year announcement to reveal cycle which I don't think anyone was expecting.
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We had, like, several people since the start of this thread expect some long cycle. And when told that you don’t need to do that these days, most took it well but some others took it as “being toxic and dismissive”

Which, well, there you go from Furukawa (translated)
 
Looks like 2023 is back on the menu!

In all seriousness, I'm expecting Q1 2024 slightly more than holiday 23 just because I anticipate something going wrong that causes a delay into the new year, like with Switch and 3DS. That way I can't possibly be disappointed if it doesn't arrive this year...right?
 
fwd-bwd said:
As many already cautioned, let's wait for the official English transcript of the earnings Q&A. Just to kill the time though, here are some preliminary observations based on my limited Japanese reading skill:
  • The investors knew that if they asked a direct question regarding the next gen, Nintendo wouldn't have told them anything. So the way Q4 and Q7 were phrased was kind of crafty. It seems that they succeeded, because the answers were a little more interesting than usual. See below.
  • Q4 posited that since the "annual play users" had been growing, it might not be necessary to release a new model to keep growing the user base. To which Furuwaka replied that he does not think releasing a new model would not be necessary to maintain the number of annual play users.
  • Furukawa reiterated that when migrating to the next hardware, it will be an important agenda (not "a challenge" as Google translated it) to maintain a high number of customers playing "Nintendo consoles".
    • I found it interesting that he didn't specifically say "Switch" or the new hardware, but Nintendo consoles in totality.
  • Yesterday some outlets reported that Furukawa called the 15MM hardware sales goals a "stretch". That word is struck from the official record. In the Q6 transcript, he is documented saying that they don't consider 15MM an easy goal to achieve, "however" (he used the word immediately after) the Mario movie and TotK may help accelerate the Switch sales.
    • To me it doesn't read like a lack of confidence but the opposite.
  • Q7 asked if Nintendo thinks that it'd be necessary to announce the next gen two-year ahead just like the NX announcement. Furukawa replied that NX was an "unique" case; Nintendo will release information at an appropriate timing to reach a wide audience.
    • Nowadays it doesn't take long for information to spread. Looking at Nintendo's hardware and software announcements in recent years, the lead time tends to be shorter than in the past.
  • The official transcript does not specify whether the 15MM forecast include a new model or not. It might have been struck from the record, or some people reported a personal assumption as fact.
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Thanks for the clarification. On the last point, they only print the "main" questions from the Q&A in the transcript, and they seem to have excluded simple "No comment" questions in the past, so my guess is that someone asked "Does that 15M hardware forecast include next-gen hardware?" and Furukawa simply answered "No". I'm not sure if that counts as being struck from the record as much as Nintendo just considering it not worth printing.

Edit: I'm also curious how they'll translate the double negative where he says "he does not think releasing a new model would not be necessary to maintain the number of annual play users". He's saying that they will need to release new hardware to keep player counts up, which I think is quite notable, but in English a double negative often implies a kind of reluctance to say something outright. I don't believe that's the case here, as it seems he's just disagreeing with the claim made by the question (which was itself a negative), but I don't know if there can be a similar implication with double negatives in Japanese.
 
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fwd-bwd said:
As many already cautioned, let's wait for the official English transcript of the earnings Q&A. Just to kill the time though, here are some preliminary observations based on my limited Japanese reading skill:
  • The investors knew that if they asked a direct question regarding the next gen, Nintendo wouldn't have told them anything. So the way Q4 and Q7 were phrased was kind of crafty. It seems that they succeeded, because the answers were a little more interesting than usual. See below.
  • Q4 posited that since the "annual play users" had been growing, it might not be necessary to release a new model to keep growing the user base. To which Furuwaka replied that he does not think releasing a new model would not be necessary to maintain the number of annual play users.
  • Furukawa reiterated that when migrating to the next hardware, it will be an important agenda (not "a challenge" as Google translated it) to maintain a high number of customers playing "Nintendo consoles".
    • I found it interesting that he didn't specifically say "Switch" or the new hardware, but Nintendo consoles in totality.
  • Yesterday some outlets reported that Furukawa called the 15MM hardware sales goals a "stretch". That word is struck from the official record. In the Q6 transcript, he is documented saying that they don't consider 15MM an easy goal to achieve, "however" (he used the word immediately after) the Mario movie and TotK may help accelerate the Switch sales.
    • To me it doesn't read like a lack of confidence but the opposite.
  • Q7 asked if Nintendo thinks that it'd be necessary to announce the next gen two-year ahead just like the NX announcement. Furukawa replied that NX was an "unique" case; Nintendo will release information at an appropriate timing to reach a wide audience.
    • Nowadays it doesn't take long for information to spread. Looking at Nintendo's hardware and software announcements in recent years, the lead time tends to be shorter than in the past.
  • The official transcript does not specify whether the 15MM forecast include a new model or not. It might have been struck from the record, or some people reported a personal assumption as fact.
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Thanks for your effort, fwd-bwd. And yes, the new hardware questions were crafted interestingly, lol. Plus the mention of Nintendo “consoles” and not just Switch is interesting. It COULD be something, since the other way they refer to the Switch is as the “Switch ecosystem”.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I mean, he mostly just ruled out a 2 year announcement to reveal cycle which I don't think anyone was expecting.

I'm very much expecting an announcement in January to March 2024 and then a release November 2024.
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A March 2024 announcement to a November release would be eight months, and while this is very possible, is eight months really necessary to make consumers aware of the new hardware? Many of us have speculated on a possible June 2023 announcement and a November release, so about a five month window. Are you really trying to argue that an eight month window is fine but a five month window would be problematic? Nintendo released the OLED model just a few months after announcement and it basically sold out at launch. There is going to be a finite amount of Redacted units available at launch, so really it makes more sense to get more aggressive with marketing the new hardware once those initial hardcore fans have been satisfied.

What is the minimum amount of time needed for a successful announcement to release be? Why do you believe it takes that long to inform consumers in a world where information travels so fast? Doesn't the fact Nintendo has an existing userbase of over 125 million user where they can directly communicate with those users about the new model through the Switch News page and Eshop matter?
 
jaycie said:
Looks like 2023 is back on the menu!

In all seriousness, I'm expecting Q1 2024 slightly more than holiday 23 just because I anticipate something going wrong that causes a delay into the new year, like with Switch and 3DS. That way I can't possibly be disappointed if it doesn't arrive this year...right?
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My issue with the idea of a Q1CY launch is that, based on the Q&A, nintendo seems to be hell-bent on selling the 15 million in this fiscal year. If they announce this new system at any point in time in this fiscal year, they will not be able to hit the 15 million target. Of course they can be revised in their forecast down and of course this can just be to reassure investors on their plans for the Fiscal Year…. But it does not seem like a Q1, or even a Q2 CY year is on the table.

And Q4 is the holiday that most aim for in terms of selling new hardware.
 
Again I don't really follow hardware leaks much, but reading here a lot more due to intrigue of investors meeting and seeing BC talk I'll say this:

It's easy to be iffy on BC when viewing the Switch as the succesor to the line of home consoles. The Wii was the first system with BC, followed by the Wii U, then bucked with the Switch. But one must realize it is also, and in its place in the market place arguably primarily, a successor to the handheld line. The GBC could play GB (its debated whether this is a revision or new hardware to this day), the GBA could play not just GBC but GB (perhaps indicating it is a revision), a then 12 year old system. The DS could play GBA, admittedly until they for no really clear reason stripped it from later models (they did the same with the Wii, I imagine the reasons are the same but both are perplexing), and the 3ds could play DS games. If we follow this, the Switch is the first true exception, with an inability to play 3ds games, but I think seeing it as both being the follow up to the wii u and 3ds, and due to fusing, being start of something new, the lack of BC can be excused, so long as like its handheld predecessors, it's own line continues to support what came before.

Considering sales historically, as well as them being seen as "not true competition" by Microsoft and Sony, I think, while the Switch's follow ups must continue to support TV play as part of their appeal, they in the market act more as a handheld then a console. And as such, retaining BC is needed to keep its market position.

Also heavy reminder that the Wii U basically shot itself in the foot to support Wii BC, granted perhaps one could see that as a negative to not repeat, but to me it shows a commitment
 
D36 said:
To be fair, Nintendo wanted to put great emphasis on motion controls, so making the Wii a beefed up GameCube was their only option to save on costs.
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They could have done a bit more and still saved on costs though. They just chose not to.
 
Goodtwin said:
A March 2024 announcement to a November release would be eight months, and while this is very possible, is eight months really necessary to make consumers aware of the new hardware? Many of us have speculated on a possible June 2023 announcement and a November release, so about a five month window. Are you really trying to argue that an eight month window is fine but a five month window would be problematic? Nintendo released the OLED model just a few months after announcement and it basically sold out at launch. There is going to be a finite amount of Redacted units available at launch, so really it makes more sense to get more aggressive with marketing the new hardware once those initial hardcore fans have been satisfied.

What is the minimum amount of time needed for a successful announcement to release be? Why do you believe it takes that long to inform consumers in a world where information travels so fast? Doesn't the fact Nintendo has an existing userbase of over 125 million user where they can directly communicate with those users about the new model through the Switch News page and Eshop matter?
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Well I assume that companies do think there's benefits to being able to completely control the narrative of their new systems and upcoming games as literally every new generation game system ever other than the Xbox One and the NES has done an announcement of release date to release window of at least 8 months.

A February announcement for a November release allows you to immediately get ahead of or comment on any leaks, promote the variety of software coming to your platform without it feeling rushed, and probably barely affects sales as year 8 sales will be pretty low regardless.

If you don't announce until ~6 months before release, you're probably going to have a 1 to 6 month period of just constant leaks that pseudo announce your system already, except you don't have control of the narrative.
 
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I'm still waiting for the proper translation to find out about the aircraft.

ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Would an overclocked X1 with 2x6GB of LPDDR5 RAM and 64 GBs of eMMC storage be the least ambitious console transition in the history of video games.
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As an improvement in computing devices that would probably still kick GameCube->Wii's butt, but Wii brought a lot of other interesting tricks.
TSR3 said:
Separate to any BC, I think the cross gen period will be limited. Maybe just to games released between announcement and actual launch of [REDACTED], possibly for the 'launch window' as well. After then I think all tentpole games will be [REDACTED], with B list games (remakes, follow ups to 3DS franchises etc) still being Switch targeted for a year or so after.

That's for 1st/2nd party games. I'd expect 3rd parties to all target [REDACTED] except for Indies. The OG Switch could remain the Indy machine until after it stops production.
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If they've got a userbase of 140+ million people still buying more games per year than most of their previous systems had at peak, hard to imagine them dropping them so soon even for the B list games. 3DS software held on longer and it had a lot less going for it.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I mean, he mostly just ruled out a 2 year announcement to reveal cycle which I don't think anyone was expecting.

I'm very much expecting an announcement in January to March 2024 and then a release November 2024.
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March announcement for a November launch i could maybe see, but if they announce it as early as January I have to imagine that it would be launching in the late spring or summer (May, June, July, or August) considering that they would have the opportunity to show it off the games in the February Direct.
 
Fuck it. I'm back on the Team Holiday 2023 train with a reveal after Pikmin 4 releases. Choo Choo! All Aboard the Nintendo Switch Advance Train.
 
ReddDreadtheLead said:
I am not, and they’ve been trying their damnest to get me to buy the OLED. I’m not buying that.

and I’m not even a day 1 user, I was gifted a switch nearly 2 years after it released 😹
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OLED is an easy skip for me cause I game 90% docked and the only improvements docked gamers get is an ethernet port (that I think is still capped to 10/100 Mbps?) and a more premium looking dock.
 
ReddDreadtheLead said:
I am not, and they’ve been trying their damnest to get me to buy the OLED. I’m not buying that.

and I’m not even a day 1 user, I was gifted a switch nearly 2 years after it released 😹
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With every passing day, I want to pick up an OLED. Metroid Prime, Splatoon 3, and Breath of the Wild look stellar on my launch Switch, and I can only imagine what they're like on an OLED...

But every passing day is a day closer to Drake, so I will wait. Reluctantly, but I will nonetheless.
 
Nintendo seems to really like the ~4 month announcement to release window for their hardware this generation and I think it will continue with the Switch.

Switch (Oct > early Mar) - 4 months
lite (Jul > Sep) - 2 months
OLED (Jul > Oct) - 3 months

If we assume a November 2024 launch for NS2, I think the earliest they announce it is July next year and maybe August at the latest. The lite was 2 months, but that was a lesser revision and I think Nintendo will want at least 3 months to have a presentation, announce games, detail hardware, have hands on previews, etc.

Going back to past news articles and insider leaks, here are my new guesstimates on when we might start hearing info about new dev kits being sent out, screen/hw parts orders and concept leaks.

DAYS BEFORE LAUNCH (assuming a Nov 22, 2024 launch)

584, Apr 18 2023: a potential game leak (ala DQXI on NX via Horii himself)
504, Jul 7 2023: article on dev kits being sent out
400, Oct 19 2023: article on rough release timing, parts (like screens) getting ordered
220, Apr 16 2024: full concept leak (ala Eurogamer's NX info)
134, Jul 11 2024: official NS2 reveal from Nintendo

So barring another off the cuff leak like we had with "Dragon Quest XI on NX" from Horii, we'll likely have to wait until July or so to hear anything more concrete (though we did get some statements from Nikkei about the earliest NS2 would arrive). But also don't be too surprised if a game or two leaks out or is accidentally confirmed before or after then.

Edit: TLDR- within half a year we should have a rough idea of the release timing and and understand the look & basic features of the system within a full year
 
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10k said:
Fuck it. I'm back on the Team Holiday 2023 train with a reveal after Pikmin 4 releases. Choo Choo! All Aboard the Nintendo Switch Advance Train.
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If hardware is to blame for the announcement event horizon, I think the optimal announcement time is probably June (or like, the last week of May), with the hardware itself announced a bit before the main event. Waiting until after Pikmin to announce any new games would be pushing it.

July hardware announcement isn't impossible, since Nintendo has done that multiple times recently, but I think they're at least going to want to get something announced and/or dated before Pikmin releases. Getting into a scenario where the only announced game that they have is the undated Prime 4 (and technically Detective Pikachu 2, but that seems to be somewhat tenuously connected to Nintendo) would be... bold.
 
ReddDreadtheLead said:
I am not, and they’ve been trying their damnest to get me to buy the OLED. I’m not buying that.

and I’m not even a day 1 user, I was gifted a switch nearly 2 years after it released 😹
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I'm a primarily handheld gamer with a day 1 Switch. It's getting so hard to resist the OLED. I wish I knew how long the wait was, for real. (Which, I guess, is why it's in Nintendo's interests to have an announcement closer to release.)
 
I’m on team 2023 until July 1st. If it’s not revealed in a June direct, and there are no leaks from funcles saying it’s in mass production by that point, then I’ll jump ship.
 
snorkellingfish said:
I'm a primarily handheld gamer with a day 1 Switch. It's getting so hard to resist the OLED. I wish I knew how long the wait was, for real. (Which, I guess, is why it's in Nintendo's interests to have an announcement closer to release.)
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shrug I think the OLED sucks as an improvement versus what previous systems got, but if in 2021 they'd said "And this is the best you're going to get for 3 more years." I might have bitten.
 
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Bonejack said:
Would you, if offered, take up the job to do narration in ads and/or other media projects?

Just curious, not that i have anything to offer ... i lead a pack of Code-Monkeys as the head monkey.
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If offered, yes. I've started to look into some local voice over opportunities but haven't auditioned for such a job/role yet.

DariliumA said:
Why is all the info you have still preliminary despite you talking about the Switch’s successor since 2020?
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Preliminary wasn't the proper term to use, as details are beyond that stage.
 
lattjeful said:
With every passing day, I want to pick up an OLED. Metroid Prime, Splatoon 3, and Breath of the Wild look stellar on my launch Switch, and I can only imagine what they're like on an OLED...
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Stellar? I beg to differ lol outside of prime they really look so dated even on release and they get harder to look at as time goes on
 
I do wonder if we get past June without reveal (which we will) if some people will be still team 2023. No offense but this dream was dead a while ago and not a single Q&A answer could change that. It's 2024.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
The optimal time for announcement was February.

It's just not happening this year, everyone.

There's no real point to doing any of what 2023 people claim Nintendo is doing.
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Do I really have to explain why Nintendo might not want to depress (already declining) hardware sales before getting their big first half release out of the way?

Waiting until after TotK lets them do a fairly clean pivot in their marketing while striking a pretty good balance between minimizing the gap between announcement and release (conveniently aligning it with the naturally quieter summer period) and giving sufficient time to get pre-release marketing taken care of and minimizing manufacturing leaks.
 
snorkellingfish said:
I'm a primarily handheld gamer with a day 1 Switch. It's getting so hard to resist the OLED. I wish I knew how long the wait was, for real. (Which, I guess, is why it's in Nintendo's interests to have an announcement closer to release.)
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You can get the tablet only on ebay for less than $250, just reuse your joycons and dock. If you're a handheld gamer, and you can make it work financially, it's worth it. Not only is the battery life upgrade from V1 worth it, but the screen really is excellent, and the build quality is much nicer around.
 
NateDrake said:
If offered, yes. I've started to look into some local voice over opportunities but haven't auditioned for such a job/role yet.


Preliminary wasn't the proper term to use, as details are beyond that stage.
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IIRC you talked about dev kits getting pulled a while back when the cancellation info came out. Have dev kits gone back out at all? Feel free to ignore if that's not something you can answer right now.
 
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JoshuaJSlone said:
I'm still waiting for the proper translation to find out about the aircraft.


As an improvement in computing devices that would probably still kick GameCube->Wii's butt, but Wii brought a lot of other interesting tricks.

If they've got a userbase of 140+ million people still buying more games per year than most of their previous systems had at peak, hard to imagine them dropping them so soon even for the B list games. 3DS software held on longer and it had a lot less going for it.
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That in the age of AI, people still rely on the known crappy Google Translate... I have checked ChatGPT and DeepL, both are basically identical:
Thraktor said:
Lots of questions on the Mario Bros Movie, unsurprisingly. Outside of that, here are a couple of the more interesting ones via DeepL translation. As per usual, don't get too hung up on the wording output by machine translation, they'll have an official English translation in a couple of days.

Q4. The number of users playing Nintendo Switch per year has been increasing even in the seventh year since its launch. If a next-generation console is released in the future, do you envision a dramatic increase in the number of annual playing users, or do you envision maintaining the number of users at least above 100 million?

A4. Furukawa: The growth in the number of users per year has slowed compared to 3-4 years ago, and we believe that we are now at a stage where our priority is to maintain high utilization rates and to attract new users.
We believe that we are now at a stage where we will place priority on maintaining high utilization rates and also aim to attract new users. We will continue to release software titles, as the availability of game consoles tends to be affected by the timing of major title releases. We also believe that we need to continue to provide opportunities for customers to play Nintendo Switch, rather than relying solely on new software releases.
We do not believe that there is no need to launch a next-generation console because we have secured a certain number of users who play the console every year. Although it is not the right time to talk about specifics regarding next-generation consoles, we are always thinking about what interesting proposals we can make in order to provide new and unique entertainment, and we are developing a variety of products for the future.
When we launch new hardware in the future, the number of users who play games per year will largely depend on the number of hardware units in use. In light of this, I think it will be a very important issue for us to maintain the number of customers who play Nintendo's game consoles at a high level and how we can shift to the next hardware. At this stage, however, we believe that our top priority is to maintain and expand the operation of Nintendo Switch, which has been on sale for seven years, and to maintain the momentum of the business.

Q7. Nintendo Switch was announced in March 2015 as (development code name) NX, and was released in March 2017 after the official name was announced in October 2016. Is this a success in terms of Hardware's marketing efforts? Do you think it is necessary to wait a similar period of time between the announcement and launch of the next generation of consoles?

A7. Furukawa: I would like to take a moment to look back on the information we sent out leading up to the Nintendo Switch launch.
Looking back on the information we provided until the launch of Nintendo Switch, the announcement of the development code name NX in March 2015 was the first time we announced a business and capital alliance with DeNA Co.
The announcement of NX was made at the "Joint Press Conference on Business and Capital Alliance (for joint development and operation of game applications for smart devices and development of the core system for Nintendo Account)" with DeNA Co. At the time, in announcing our entry into the mobile business, we needed to let many people know that Nintendo would continue to be firmly committed to the dedicated game console business as our core business. Therefore, the timing of the announcement of the Nintendo Switch was a somewhat special case of information dissemination.
We will continue to disseminate information not only on hardware but also on software with appropriate timing for each product to ensure that information reaches a wide range of customers.

Furukawa confirming that the Switch's early initial announcement was a special case, and we shouldn't expect the same for the next hardware.
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If the release of the new console is this year, I don't see a problem to even just announce it only few month before. Say business as usual until christmas and then a January Reveal like for Switch. Nintendo has made already very good experience with short term game announcements, so they stopped to announce anything after Pikmin 4. So why not the same strategy for a whole game console.
 
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Kazuyamishima said:
Stellar? I beg to differ lol outside of prime they really look so dated even on release and they get harder to look at as time goes on
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I guess you and I just have different tastes. I'll give you Breath of the Wild; Tears of the Kingdom looks much nicer and like a current gen game. But Splatoon 3 looks pretty good! The material and texture work is nothing to write home about, but the lighting and the ink looks really good and it's plenty sharp in handheld.

Yeah blown up to large TV screens, they look quite a bit worse than current gen or even last gen games, but handheld is fine.
 
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