You are starting from scratch. That's the problem.
Eh, not necessarily.
SEO at work.
I'm not that knowledgeable about semiconductors in general but based on what I learned in a brief amount of time here, I find it highly unlikely there'd be two different node processes for the T239. It costs time and money to tapeout, send it to fabrication, cutting wafers from fabrication, etc. I seriously doubt they're doing to do a separate node process just for devkits.
yes, it's Parker (TX2). it was still available for a time as development boardsThis was before T239's time, but this got me curious when I found this - What was T186? Dated July 10 2021.
It says "T186" next to "T210" (we know T210 as Tegra X1, which is Nintendo Switch).
Wikipedia says T186 is Tegra X2? Also, a "camera module" was mentioned.
Ah ok - used for development on Nintendo Switch games right?
no, as Jetson boards. the TX2 was never used for anything nintendo
How am I rude?
HS/HSN codes are just vague categories, and they're chosen at the discretion of someone involved with the shipping process who probably doesn't give too much thought to them, or just uses the same code their company always uses whenever they ship an electronic device. We shouldn't expect them to be consistent or to mean much specifically.
I think there's a whole lot more to HS codes than just arbitrary labels. Apparently they're needed so appropriate tarrifs would apply to any incoming goods.
Most (all?) of those with code 85437099 that has "T239" in the description also says "functional test PCA".
Ideally, the thread would grow quiet in times like this. It should really only briefly pick up around the time of the shareholder briefing, then quiet back down until more rumors start to come out around February or March of next year.
The landscape has changed quiite a lot over the past few years since 2015/2016 given the US/China trade sanctions over phones, so I suspect certain regions have laws that force them into declaring particular goods as "Video game consoles" rather than just "electronic equipment".
I do think "pure" dev kits with classify more as an "apparatus" than a devkit which can double as both an end-user device which might make it fall more squarely under "video game console".
There are two different entries: Carpa X1 "sw development platform", those has HSN code 95045000 (video games).
If not much is happening, we should use the other threads that's relevant to what we want to post about. Much better than treating this thread like a general discord chat. This way we keep this thread nice and clean, and easier to find hardware info. The way it is now, hardware information is lost in all our crazy offtopic chats
I guess that could fit. "The purpose of the software PCA is to ensure that the design and reference documentation is consistent with the as-built software product."
it might help put credence to the idea of the T239 being connected to that one Indian guy's linkedin profile if they were getting shipments for the thingHave anyone came across this one? Probably nothing exciting (sounds like an accessory or hardware part).
Full text: "ADAPTOR PEDESTAL T239 PEDESTAL 21 OR 23 MM X 21 OR 23MM SUBZ A01-001941", HSN code 85437099 (electrical equipment).
Origin: United States, Destination: India.
I was hesitant to share this until I found this associated to "Nvidia graphics private limited", combined with T239 in description...
I think this is the best solution to but they've pointed to the First Party Development thread for speculating about games so I guess we just gotta use that.
Well nvidia does have offices in India. I don't think there was any doubt T239 had a big part of its origins rooted in India.
Printed circuit (board) assembly just means a board with other components attached to it, so it would describe any sort of test board, Jetson module, devkit, etc. (as opposed to PCB which is just an individual circuit board). The description and the E2423 model number identify that it is an SLT (system-level test) board, so I think that definition of PCA makes the most sense. Doesn't really change the picture if it means something else though -- it's an E2423 SLT board either way.
The exporter seems to be Chroma ATE Inc., who are based in Taiwan but I guess shipping from the US. They certainly seem like a company that would provide additional equipment to support silicon testing. T239 being in the name is interesting, since I would expect them to provide generic products, but maybe this component was custom designed for it? No idea what an adaptor pedestal is, but I doubt it's very interesting in practice, unless the area (between 21 mm² and 23 mm²) tells us something. But unless someone with the right background actually knows what that is, speculating about that could tip us into bad conclusions pretty easily.Have anyone came across this one? Probably nothing exciting (sounds like an accessory or hardware part).
Full text: "ADAPTOR PEDESTAL T239 PEDESTAL 21 OR 23 MM X 21 OR 23MM SUBZ A01-001941", HSN code 85437099 (electrical equipment).
Origin: United States, Destination: India.
I was hesitant to share this until I found this associated to "Nvidia graphics private limited", combined with T239 in description...
Hell lets go even further, There's an entire forum beyond this thread that people refuse to use. Like the Smash bros tangent could of been it own topic or the launch lineup discussion that randomly pops up that even has a thread. Everything doesn't have to stay in this thread ,we don't need +10 pages everyday it makes it hard to keep up.
So what does this mean for the power of device? 
Are we still PS4 Pro levels?
Nope, no one knows. But if it is 8nm, we're dealing with something that'd be a bit less powerful while also more power hungry and more expensive to produce. There are better alternatives that use less power, are cheaper, and have better processing power. It just doesn't make sense to use the 8nm chip in any way so it's unlikely.So is 8nm confirmed?
I’m reading the thread here and some people seem to be sure it’s 8nm based on the new shipment info.
If you're talking about Connor's tweet, no. It was stated from the beginning Connor is unreliable and also was stated there's nothing in Connor's screenshot that confirmed 8nm. Nor anywhere in the website we figured out where Connor got the screenshot from.
Question is why would they ever think 12SM on 8nm was a good idea in the first place, if the node isn't good enough to run it efficiently as a handheld.
Yes it makes sense. TX1 and TX2 were also used in cars. Carpa ironically enough, is not to our knowledge.This was before T239's time, but this got me curious when I found this - What was T186? Dated July 10 2021.
It says "T186" next to "T210" (we know T210 as Tegra X1, which is Nintendo Switch).
Wikipedia says T186 is Tegra X2? Also, a "camera module" was mentioned.
Could be a better SEC node though the chance is low still
