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There really isn’t much to talk about in this video that hasn’t already been talked about here. I think it pretty self evident what they will do without trying to push “Nintendo gonna Nintendo” in some parts.
Lord have mercy I’m bout to busttttMaybe a month away from the reveal at this point
keep your expectations in check, no one knows anything about a reveal here. for all we know this system could very well be 2025 and we don't even hear about it next year.Lord have mercy I’m bout to bustttt
This is technically correct but pretty unlikely from what we can glean.for all we know this system could very well be 2025 and we don't even hear about it next year.
keep your expectations in check, no one knows anything about a reveal here. for all we know this system could very well be 2025 and we don't even hear about it next year.
If it was a month away, we would've heard about it by either via leaks or by Nintendo themselves, because if an announcement is imminent they wouldn't just shadowdrop it onto the internet on a random thursday.Maybe a month away from the reveal at this point
i agree, but we cant just go around telling people the reveal is next month. we have patterns but we also have a big holiday season coming up.We just proved that the same Devkits shipment pattern happened in 2016 lol.
This is the end game
If it was a month away, we would've heard about it by either via leaks or by Nintendo themselves, because if an announcement is imminent they wouldn't just shadowdrop it onto the internet on a random thursday.
I mean I find it suspicious how quiet it actually is, honestly I feel like it’s more likely with there being basically no chatter.If it was a month away, we would've heard about it by either via leaks or by Nintendo themselves, because if an announcement is imminent they wouldn't just shadowdrop it onto the internet on a random thursday.
This just isn't true.If it was a month away, we would've heard about it by either via leaks or by Nintendo themselves
No, they would announce a reveal trailer and publish it the next day ;pbecause if an announcement is imminent they wouldn't just shadowdrop it onto the internet on a random thursday.
Wonder how many pages we’ll hit after the reveal trailerWe hit 1800 pages on Sunday and we might get halfway to 1900 before this Sunday. We're definitely hitting 2000 before the end of the month.
Wonder how many pages we’ll hit after the reveal trailer
2025 is out of the question at this point considering all the reports. For one, the Switch 1 doesn’t have enough gas in the tank to last until then.keep your expectations in check, no one knows anything about a reveal here. for all we know this system could very well be 2025 and we don't even hear about it next year.
I'll probably be at work, by the time it happens (just like with the Switch), so my uniform, I guess.What you guys are going to wear for the reveal ? I plan on having a bespoke Tuxedo with H1 embroidered in gold on the chest
Assuming it’s gonna be a weekday, during the day, my work clothesWhat you guys are going to wear for the reveal ? I plan on having a bespoke Tuxedo with H1 embroidered in gold on the chest
May Leslie Jordan rest in peace. He's probably up in heaven hitting on Jesus.Lord have mercy I’m bout to bustttt
December is exactly why it makes sense for the reveal to happen sufficiently before - Nintendo knows there's a hundred different costs of living crises affecting the majority of people in their key markets, Nintendo knows there's inflation and price hikes and that their next generation is going to be costlier to produce and priced higher to profit comfortably, indications generally seem to be leaning more towards H1 2024 than H2 2024i agree, but we cant just go around telling people the reveal is next month. we have patterns but we also have a big holiday season coming up.
Is this our smoking gun?Also if you Google the T239 Shipment description, first link is Fami and the second is.. Nvidia company shipments profile from the Import data site
T239 is (one of) the code name(s) for the chip which beyond a reasonable doubt will be the main SoC powering the next Nintendo console and the devkits thereof.Is this our smoking gun?
By the way, excuse the ignorance, but:
• T239 = Nintendo’s next gen console devkit, right? Like, will it look almost like the final console?
You would be surprised, a lot of modern games have trouble running on the Deck like Plague Tale Requiem, Starfield, Forspoken etc. This occurs due to either the CPU not being powerful enough, or the GPU running out of VRAM (which I think they should make a 32gb model to circumvent this).Is there any need for a Deck 2?
Is "Nvidia's solution" referring to the dedicated ray tracing hardware? Or is "Nvidia's solution" referring to ray tracing performance?I did mean "RT Cores", proper noun, Nvidia's solution, not that other handhelds won't or can't have RT acceleration.
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First Glimpse of Exynos 2400 Mobile Processor and Zoom Anyplace Image Sensor Technology
One of the event's highlights was the preview of Samsung's next-generation flagship mobile processor, the Exynos 2400 with Xclipse 940 GPU based on the latest AMD RDNA™ 3 architecture. A live demo showcased the processor's substantially enhanced ray tracing capability, promising improved realism and immersion in gaming through a range of optical effects including global illumination, reflection and shadow rendering.
Achieving significant advancements in computing performance, the Exynos 2400 processor features a 1.7x increase in CPU performance and a remarkable 14.7x boost in AI performance compared to the previous Exynos 2200 product. Additionally, Samsung introduced a new AI tool designed for upcoming smartphones, demonstrating text-to-image AI generation using its Exynos 2400 reference board.
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Thank you for this!Here's a summary of what I posted about the shipment listings across a few pages.
0: The original post, linking to a tweet from an unreliable Korean rumormonger that was screenshotting a publicly available website with a shipping/customs record related to T239, but providing no context for its apparent claim about T239 using 8nm.
1: Breaking down what the various terms mean in the T239 "test board" description I found while searching, and how it has nothing to do with the foundry/process node.
2: Responding to the screenshot of the "T239 SW development platform CARPA X1" description that was in the original tweet, which also has nothing to do with the foundry/process node, but is potentially interesting. I mentioned that someone else had already found this particular listing in September 2022, probably spurred by everybody discussing the Linux commits and the CPU cores.
3: Comparing to another listing for an RTX 4080 test board sent to the same company, confirming a 128-bit memory bus for T239 and also showing that test boards were being sent for some products even after they were publicly released. Clarifying why the original tweet probably wasn't supposed to be about about the process node anyway.
4: Identifying that all the shipments were between different branches of Nvidia, with all of them either coming from or going to their office in India. Showing that the dates for the "test boards" went from April 2022 to November 2022, and the dates for the "software development platform" went from July 2022 to May 2023, which matches up with the timeline we already inferred for physical production of T239 in 2022.
5: Clarifying how the part number for the "test board" is related to ones used for T234/Orin during its development.
6: Attempting to recap things because the discussion was already fragmented.
7: Explaining what a DDK (device driver kit) is as my guess for the "software development platform" shipments. Clarifying that Carpa is not the known codename of Nintendo's hardware or its motherboard.
8: Identifying devkit-related listings from during the Switch 1's development, and comparing to the T239 "software development platform" listing, suggesting that the latter could be shipments of devkits for Nintendo's new hardware.
9: I should probably make a hub post.
10: Yup.
11: You are here.
it is not a smoking gun.Is this our smoking gun?
By the way, excuse the ignorance, but:
• T239 = Nintendo’s next gen console devkit, right? Like, will it look almost like the final console?
The component is brand new, we don't really know much about it. Presumably it will take a block of data from some source (I assume RAM, Switch storage is heavily abstracted and encrypted, and the RAM is unified) and decompressing it according to some known algorithm. I don't think we have any solid information on which algorithm will be used, it'll just be something they can implement faster in hardware than in software.How does the FDE on the rumored T239 work? I just want to get a better understanding on its capabilities
when data is coming from storage, it first goes to the FDE to be decompressed then passed to ramThe component is brand new, we don't really know much about it. Presumably it will take a block of data from some source (I assume RAM, Switch storage is heavily abstracted and encrypted, and the RAM is unified) and decompressing it according to some known algorithm. I don't think we have any solid information on which algorithm will be used, it'll just be something they can implement faster in hardware than in software.
and T239 is the chip itself. not the dev kit or anything used by Nintendo
Wonder how many pages we’ll hit after the reveal trailer
Why do you believe we would have seen evidence by now? There is SO much we don’t know about Switch 2, we just have informed guesses.Changing the node requires redesigning the chip, which entails a different code name. We’d likely have seen evidence before now.
Erista and Mariko are two different nodes of the same chip.I'm pretty sure that's not possible. The chip is the chip, making the same chip on another node is just making a new chip.
Not impossible, but wouldn't that create hurdles for the developers? Not that dev kits are 1-1 recreationss of consoles in the first place, but I thought 8nm was such a big deal breaker that they'd want to avoid it in their dev kits too.
I assume the purpose of the FDE should be to take data from storage (cartridge, internal, or expansion card) via DMA, decompress it, and put the decompressed data into RAM. It shouldn't need to go into RAM first before decompression, and shouldn't need to use the CPU except to initiate the operation.The component is brand new, we don't really know much about it. Presumably it will take a block of data from some source (I assume RAM, Switch storage is heavily abstracted and encrypted, and the RAM is unified) and decompressing it according to some known algorithm. I don't think we have any solid information on which algorithm will be used, it'll just be something they can implement faster in hardware than in software.
Meaning they are different chips. It’sErista and Mariko are two different nodes of the same chip.
Meaning they are different chips. It’s
not just a matter of taking the same chip and doing it smaller. It has to be effectively redesigned to utilize the new node.
Because it’s very expensive and it’s something you aim to do once. They wouldn’t design and produce a chip at an inferior node just to use in a couple thousand dev kits.I know. I just don’t understand why you think it’s unbelievable.
The problem is that the data is stored encrypted. Perhaps some decryption support will be built in, but otherwise the data would have to go through the CPU first. There could probably still be some more direct path for it, in that case.I assume the purpose of the FDE should be to take data from storage (cartridge, internal, or expansion card) via DMA, decompress it, and put the decompressed data into RAM. It shouldn't need to go into RAM first before decompression, and shouldn't need to use the CPU except to initiate the operation.
I wouldn't say it's unbelievable, just pretty unlikely.I know. I just don’t understand why you think it’s unbelievable.
Such a thing wouldn't leak until a day before, at least not an entire month before. We didn't know the OLED Reveal was in July until, like, a day or two before it was, same with the OG Switch.If it was a month away, we would've heard about it by either via leaks or by Nintendo themselves, because if an announcement is imminent they wouldn't just shadowdrop it onto the internet on a random thursday.
Such a thing wouldn't leak until a day before, at least not an entire month before. We didn't know the OLED Reveal was in July until, like, a day or two before it was, same with the OG Switch.
Also, we have a lot of clues pointing to something next month anyway, like the leaked Amiibo restocks.
It's likely that the FDE will do both, otherwise its usefulness would be greatly reduced. And I recall it showed up alongside some crypto-related defines in the Linux commits.The problem is that the data is stored encrypted. Perhaps some decryption support will be built in, but otherwise the data would have to go through the CPU first. There could probably still be some more direct path for it, in that case.
I think a bunch of journalists said a "Switch Pro" reveal was imminent in early July 2021. It doesn't really make sense for this sort of thing to leak a month in advance since Nintendo would want something like this to be very down low.Who leaked the OLED Reveal ?
Such a thing wouldn't leak until a day before, at least not an entire month before. We didn't know the OLED Reveal was in July until, like, a day or two before it was, same with the OG Switch.
Also, we have a lot of clues pointing to something next month anyway, like the leaked Amiibo restocks.
That makes it even less likely for something like that to leak a full month in advance lolInsiders didn't leak about the Switch (then NX) reveal until like 12 hours before the trailer (and only like an hour or two before Nintendo announced it).
That makes it even less likely for something like that to leak a full month in advance lol
given how we have recent test cases and now these shipments, any new chip would mean Switch 2 is more 2025/2026 because they haven't shown up. the Nvidia leaks even has stuff for the upcoming Blackwell. if this new chip isn't in those leaks, then it's even further than Blackwell, a 2025 gpuI know. I just don’t understand why you think it’s unbelievable.
I found your comparison was simply incorrect. I took a picture because what you said made no sense you made me doubt myself for a second that I had to pull both of them out and check. Tabletop is irrelevant since you're comparing the full console.
Just because the Switch is smaller than some of the current PC portables, it doesn't make it small and light. And let's be honest here, who actually buys these? Hardly any. I don't think many even know of their existence apart from us enthusiasts. They're never in any stores. So I can only imagine people either comparing their Switch to their prior portables, 3DS, DS, PSP, Vita, or to their phones. And in both cases, the Switch is big.
Anyway, I'll leave it at that. You said your piece and I said mine. There was no attitude. No need to be touchy about it. Just stating what I see Infront of me.
No, the initial plan was Samsung 8N along with Orin but they they changed course and decided to redesign for a superior node.Because it’s very expensive and it’s something you aim to do once. They wouldn’t design and produce a chip at an inferior node just to use in a couple thousand dev kits.