Teal'c
Shriekbat
2023 is not off the table. Nothing has been said to the effect of "Drake is not releasing in 2023".
OK thank you, it was to get some clarity in my brainNo, there's no consensus right now about anything.
2023 is not off the table. Nothing has been said to the effect of "Drake is not releasing in 2023".
OK thank you, it was to get some clarity in my brainNo, there's no consensus right now about anything.
Does that mean Drake wasn't supposed to release in 2023 or that it'd launch close to/at the same time?The mid-gen refresh planned for 2023.
Just to clarify one last time (I know you said you're done posting here so if you don't respond that's fine):Firstly; all of what I had reported was corroborated by Bloomberg reports & the Nvidia NVN2 leaks would further back the information.
My final post in this thread for the year: Do people think I'm joyful that the information reported back in October '21 is no longer accurate? I talk with contacts (developers, publishers, supply chain contacts, etc) and get the best information I can from them. For the past few months, I've been having conversations with them and chasing down leads. Looking for confirmation on plans/timing/etc... The posts implying that I should share anything the moment I hear of it but then chastises for sharing info that could potentially become inaccurate -- due to the changes or misunderstanding.
On the matter of 'Drake' and what hardware that is specifically designed for (and this is my personal speculation): could Drake have been the intended revision at one point? Maybe. Could it now be the base of the next-gen hardware? Perhaps. Select features of Drake match those of the kits I had heard about -- which would then be further backed and reported by Bloomberg's own reporting.
I'm pretty sure that at no point, they started sending literal development kits to 10+ third party partners, making them work for 2+ years on porting their most valuable games, and then casually mailing them to announce that they decided to cancel the machine. And if they did send kits, cancelling the machine after possibly >1000 people had been working on porting games would be a literal suicide, even by Nintendo's standards.
I mean there's likely a reason we haven't seen a new 3D/2D Mario, and Mario Kart is getting years late mobile port DLC on Switch tbhYup Nintendo will have to start building up exclusive software for the Next hardware if this is a traditional transition. Lets just hope the final year of Switch is better than Gamecube(2006), Wii(2012), and Wii U's (2016).
Tbf it probably gotten to PC Dev Kit stage where not actual Hardware Dev kit so nothing really lost.Yeah, there’s no way this happened.
Well...yeah. Its a nice tool to look at something while thinking about it and evaluating it, but online discourse kinda took all those and all falacies and made a bloodsport out of reasoning instead of using them to explore viewpoints.Because like all "debate me" life hacks, it's mostly a tool to feel smart. And if two people both try to razor eachother, you just get a really boring debate about what "simple" means that goes in circles.
agreed.In both cases, it shows that while the revered "insiders" can get minor things right, such as the date of a direct a few weeks ahead, or the occasional new game, making predictions about big stuff like hardware, years in advance, should not in my opinion be treated as anything else than educated guessing.
I'm sorry for folks who feel deeply let down. I'm sorry for folks who feel mislead, especially since I think some of them felt mislead by me (and I know some of my posts have been used for hoax leaks in the past).it’s not inconceivable that a non-Drake revision exists and hasn’t leaked.
Consider this (hypothetical) situation:
1) Nintendo is working on a revision that adds DLSS to the Switch. It’s a custom chip that adds tensor cores to the X1, plus a clock bump. This is the Switch Pro
2) At the same time Nintendo is working on a Switch 2, DLSS, a huge upgrade in power, but not fully backwards compatible.
3) Game devs get Switch Pro dev kits and leak “4K switch with DLSS” to some folks in the press
4) Outside game-world, Nvidia folks start leaking Switch 2 development.
5) The community expects a DLSS revision, Lapsu$ hack shows DLSS hardware, thus conflating the Switch Pro with the Switch 2
in retrospect I'm kind of annoyed that my read of "heavy" meaning bad news was brushed off so strongly
I was already sort of suspicious of the endless "waiting for confirmation" this yearIt was obvious.
I said at the time my spider-sense was tingling and it never fails to let me down.
I'm confused again, what conclusion are you drawing from all of this?Literally, we were talking about this exact scenario in May as a way to explain how the damn Drake was so big
I'm sorry for folks who feel deeply let down. I'm sorry for folks who feel mislead, especially since I think some of them felt mislead by me (and I know some of my posts have been used for hoax leaks in the past).
I have spent the majority of my time in this thread trying to keep expectations in check and open to alternate possibilities, while keeping the thread data oriented. I think a lot of ya'll are smart and great, and I still enjoy playing the tech analysis game with ya'll. But this pile on is... a lot. Hopefully the temperature comes down.
I'm no natedrake fanboy but he doesn't owe anyone shit lmao@NateDrake editing your posts so you won't get quoted isn't really fair play with a community which has overwhelmingly supported you when some (like myself, I admit) openly distrusted you.
Honestly, I am not sure I understand the current hypothesis.
What until a few weeks ago could have been released during H1 2023 is now being branded as a cancelled (as well as unknown) model?
Kind of like how the Oled model was mistaken for Drake/Dane/4K?
So now
H1 2023
H2 2023
H1-H2 2024 ?
Nate's info is that a mid-gen revision planned for a 2023 release was shelved. It's .... weird to me that if a TX1 + DLSS revision existed, it would have been planned for 2023. After no TX1+ Pro in 2019 and 2021, I would have expected Nintendo to just release nothing in this timeframe until Switch 2 proper is out.Literally, we were talking about this exact scenario in May as a way to explain how the damn Drake was so big
Nobody is claiming Drake was cancelled.If Drake was cancelled last month or so (which I doubt as it was in active development until recently at least) we'd be seeing the Switch 2 until 2025+ at least, as they'd have to design a whole new SoC for a whole new architecture that isn't Lovelace, it'd be part of the family of that arch SoCs much like Drake was of Orin. We could be seeing a release in 2026 or 2027.
Literally, we were talking about this exact scenario in May as a way to explain how the damn Drake was so big
I'm sorry for folks who feel deeply let down. I'm sorry for folks who feel mislead, especially since I think some of them felt mislead by me (and I know some of my posts have been used for hoax leaks in the past).
I have spent the majority of my time in this thread trying to keep expectations in check and open to alternate possibilities, while keeping the thread data oriented. I think a lot of ya'll are smart and great, and I still enjoy playing the tech analysis game with ya'll. But this pile on is... a lot. Hopefully the temperature comes down.
prime 4So it really seems like 2024 launch with new Mario Kart lol. This is the exclusive you want to launch system with, basically the money printer of them all.
I just hope that this does not mean that new titles from EPD Tokyo are next-gen exclusives then.
I was already sort of suspicious of the endless "waiting for confirmation" this year
what a shame
I'm very glad that this broke before the new year, now I can go into 2023 making a concerted effort to stop wasting my time reading and writing about nintendo crap all day
I'm no natedrake fanboy but he doesn't owe anyone shit lmao
he can retract whatever he wants imo
obligatory (and now surprisingly relevant!)Hm... makes me wonder if Bayo 3 and Pokemon really were "designed" with this now-cancelled revision in mind...?
You can find the posts in the thread still. I edited them because the posts aren't being taken as intended. They aren't posts of informational worth. I left those untouched.He's a content creator who gets financial support for his content. As pointed out in this thread, some people literally paid to ask him questions, which is bonkers to me though people are free to spend their hard earned money however they want. He at least owes them to be fair play, which I think he isn't in this case.
True and it seemed (at least to me) a confirmation that everything was 'going as planned'.That "a few weeks ago" was being based on info reported many, many, many months ago.
This is what I was saying. My sources told me no 4K model until next generation which will be late 2024 at the earliest. Another revision exists but it won’t be a meaningful upgrade. Thanks for all the negative messages towards me a la “don’t do these drive-by posts saying it won’t come”. It won’t come.The hope that a Switch model with 4K capability or any other meaningful hardware upgrade is launching next year is very disputable if I may tell you this. I don’t know Nate but there is a reason he‘s saying that his information from 2021 was correct at that time. I would recommend this forum to keep expectations for the next year or two in check.
I was saying to expect news between late December and mid January based on past Mochizuki leaks...it might still hold true.The factory worker said a new switch model was beginning production in January, and I still believe in that info. We won't have to wait long to see if that information is accurate.
no source talks about Drake not being able to come out in 2023, so until further notice that option remains on the table.i still think switch 2 is coming late 2023
The factory worker said a new switch model was beginning production in January, and I still believe in that info. We won't have to wait long to see if that information is accurate.
they weren't. Bayo 3 is classic platinum, and Pokemon is classic game freakHm... makes me wonder if Bayo 3 and Pokemon really were "designed" with this now-cancelled revision in mind...?
i know, i'm saying i don't think this new rumor from DF changes anything, for all we know it could have been canned a while ago. i'm saying there's no reason to go into panic mode about the actual successor.no source talks about Drake not being able to come out in 2023, so until further notice that option remains on the table.
Despite the fact that this supposed model that is not Drake is cancelled, I am curious to know what games were being worked on for said model.You can find the posts in the thread still. I edited them because the posts aren't being taken as intended. They aren't posts of informational worth. I left those untouched.
Shield TV 2 maybe?OK, but where does that leave us with T239/Drake and the linux kernel updates?