I think it’s way too early to make that claim
I half agree with this. I do think some expectations are being held over from a time of speculation about, not even really a Pro or mid-gen refresh
To be absolutely clear - I'm not arguing for any of the things on that list as good or likely. I'm simply saying that this thread locked into "pro" thinking and it still crops up.
For example, there is still a "I'll wait to buy
Tears of the Kingdom till I can play it at 4k on Switch 2." And maybe that will happen! If I had to bet money, I would bet money on it. But there is a decent chance that we get
6 remastered/HD games from Nintendo in the course of 12 months. That's a Nintendo hard at work on the first year of Next Gen. Nintendo doesn't
need to depend on a bunch of 4k patches to sell the next system, BC and launch exclusives would be great.
I... Frankly don't. Saying "factually untrue" that using proven, already mass produced parts is expensive, developmentally, isn't being honest.
I already said that I don't think I can change your mind. But I'm not being dishonest. I might be
wrong, but I'm not being
dishonest.
Obviously reusing proven mass produced parts is cheap. Designing a system that can reuse those parts might be cheap and it might not be.
Saying that adding a camera would mandate a change to the controller's connector, when it ALREADY HAS A CAMERA, that more power would mandate an incompatible connector, or that the connector is somehow not amenable to a superior latching mechanism, when the connector and latch are seperate components that serve different functions. That. Just isn't being honest.
I was merely suggesting possible changes that might require an altered connector, purely spitballing. I didn't say it mandated any of those things, and I'm sorry I wasn't sufficiently clear.
I like you. I've got no hostility here. I find this particular conversation with you very frustrating, but hey, I've got lots of friends for whom there is one topic that seems to always go off the rails. No beef. I would hope that my behavior so far would indicate to you that I wouldn't be dishonest. Wrong maybe. But not
dishonest.
I am not aware of any cases where the IR camera is enabled while attached to the tablet. Maybe there are. That was not my point. My point was that a different set of controller functionality might require a different interface. This happens in technology all the time. I didn't intend to suggest that any of these changes would
mandate a new connector. I was suggesting that there
might be changes which would require a new connector or rail
and that maybe we should consider them rather than dismissing them out of hand.
But is it being HONEST to suggest they WILL, to suggest that the idea of broad compatibility and cross gen "must die"? I don't believe so.
I was not attempting to suggest that
cross-gen needed to die. I was suggesting that this thread needs to kill its
legacy assumptions about what Nintendo's approach will be.
Nor is it particularly honest to say the rumoured screen, which unlike the SOC, is merely rumoured at present, is evidence to the effect of a different controller connector.
This is where this conversation with you gets very very frustrating. Because you are a smart, reasonable person, with a positive disposition and I feel like an absolute asshole when I say stuff like "that's not what the word evidence means."
"Evidence" is not "proof." My home has been robbed several times. The last time, police found "evidence" that they burglar came in through the window. He didn't as it turns out, he was checking unlocked back doors in the neighborhood and hit half a dozen places, the marks on the window were likely a
different attempted break in. Life in the city.
I didn't say that the new screen was proof that we'd get a new controller connector. I was saying that the new screen is evidence of a form factor change. The current accessories were developed in concert with the form factor.
The leaked SOC at say, 5nm, would have a thermal profile pretty much in line with the launch Switch.
And we return to my original statement. The thermal profile will be dictated by more than the SOC. It will also be determined by software (RT runs hotter than rasterization, for example), it will be determined by the physical placement of other components, and it will of course be determined by clocks.
The clock numbers that are bounced around here are based on the launch Switch's power draw. To say that T239 has a thermal profile that looks like the TX1, when placed at clocks that were selected in order to match the TX1 is
circular. But more importantly, we're operating on the assumption that the motherboard layout and thus the
location of the heat, not it's
quantity will be the same.
Scaling up the Switch made sense when were talking about a Pro revision. But the DS was not a 3D GameBoy. I don't believe we're getting a DS like shift. But I'd like to think I'm open minded enough to consider the possibility.