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There's been one opportunity to port a Xenoblade game to Switch so far, and it went to 1 for some reasons that are fairly obvious, especially after the announcement of 3. I wouldn't be surprised if an X port happened between 3 and Monolith's next project.
More generally though, as much as people like to say everything from Wii U has been ported to Switch, emulation is really going to be necessary to fully carry forward the system's legacy. This list is also missing some notable games, like Splatoon 1 and Smash 4.
Tentacle-tropes
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I knew I was missing something lol
Don’t about Smash though if they would just do base or add the extra content.
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I need a remake. To scale, no separation of overworld and cities.
This is not the first (or even second) time you have gone on a hostile rant against members. You are receiving a one-month ban - Donnie, Hologram, Mazi
You pull that "I know, but won't say it, because I was asked not to" all the time. Until a retailer accidentally lists it and you go "It's true". I don't know what difference it makes to say it now as opposed to later, just seems like a convenient excuse. And if you know it, but can't say it, you might as well not say anything at all. I have sources and won't post anything I know, not even a hint, until they change their job.
You could just as well post a list of games and people would keep listening to everything you say even if none of it was true. Rogers should've become a persona non grata a long time ago, but people hang onto her every word. You two can even post obvious things, like Nintendo sitting on finished games, and people treat it like a revelation. Scheduling is a thing, so even if a planned holiday release was ready for June, they'd hold it until the holiday months. They admitted as much with SMO.
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I mean, it is not that hard to follow the thread rules:
You don't trust someone? That's totally cool! But please, stop being openly agressive towards other users, including (and specially!) ones who are not even posting in this thread. If you feel someone is constantly misleading people, talk with the mods - they are the ones who have to take actions if needed. That said, Nate (and Emily) have both been found reputable for the standards of this site, so please, refrain attacking them just because you don't like the bar setted by the mod team - again, the place to change that is not this thread. Let's try not to derail it and have a civil discussion on topic.
I think that GC, Wii and 3ds will not enter on the NSO, because they are the platforms from which they are going to get relaunches and remasters to fill the catalog, now that with WiiU there are only 3 or 4 viable games left (Xenoblade X, paper mario, Yoshi WW, Pokemon Rumble and zelda remasters)
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The way Sega is licensing out games, there could be some medium sized indies who could do such
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To be honest I saw the exact same thing on the Xbox One and PS4 side when Xbox One X and PS4 Pro were first rumoured. Some people don’t have a lot of cash and don’t want their system being outdated or replaced within the traditional 6 year console lifecycle. There’s been a strange ‘hatred’ (for lack of a better term) towards a Switch Pro since it was first being speculated on way back in 2019.
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Well, I won't excuse uncouth behavior on the parts of the masses, but the One X and Pro created a scenario for titles to be shipped that ran terribly on the OG hardware, I respect that Nintendo resisted the temptation to create addition profiles for Mariko.
I don't think this is reasonable. Nate makes outrageous claims, this does not mean they aren't true, any leaker makes outrageous claims and many of them have been right, that's what leaking is. However, when someone makes outrageous claims those claims should be open to criticism and debate. Because as I'm sure we all know here, while many leaks have been accurate throughout the years, most have not. And even people who have been held up as the gold standard have often been horribly off the mark - look at Emily Rogers for example, where is Pokemon stars? So I think it's fair for someone to come in and give their honest opinion that they believe Nate is inaccurate, because based on history, there's a very good chance they'll be right. And Nate meanwhile can fire back, and give his own evidence for his claims, perhaps by bringing up his past record of correct leaks or something else. But I don't think anyone making bold claims should be immune to criticism or doubt over those claims, that just doesn't make much sense unless you want a cult mentality where we all take Nate at his word with no evidence and no doubt.
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The problem isn't if someone says " I don't think Nate is accurate", which is fine and they can wait and see if anything pans out. That is not what this person did: they explicitly said Nate was actively trying to deceive people by suggesting he has knowledge that he doesn't, and trying to trick people by making vague statements and then claiming a victory from that vague statement. That is absolutely an attack on him in my view.
SiG
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Did you get a heads-up notice on Xenoblade Chronicles 3's release date being pushed forward @NateDrake ?
I wonder if the release date reshuffling is due to a combination of Advanced Wars and Zelda BotW sequel's delays. Makes me wonder what this new successor's launch lineup will look like, and if it will receive the necessary 3rd party support.
While tech is nice, i'm more concerned about support and how Nintendo plans to keep its momentum. Most of the people posting here will say "just keep doing what they've already been doing" but unlike them, I really don't think that's going to cut it at all. "Just a 4k Switch" doesn't seem like a huge selling point on its own, and I think it's going to need to introduce a new new style of play or convenience in order to differenciate it enough from what's out there in the market
I wonder if the release date reshuffling is due to a combination of Advanced Wars and Zelda BotW sequel's delays. Makes me wonder what this new successor's launch lineup will look like, and if it will receive the necessary 3rd party support.
While tech is nice, i'm more concerned about support and how Nintendo plans to keep its momentum. Most of the people posting here will say "just keep doing what they've already been doing" but unlike them, I really don't think that's going to cut it at all. "Just a 4k Switch" doesn't seem like a huge selling point on its own, and I think it's going to need to introduce a new new style of play or convenience in order to differenciate it enough from what's out there in the market
He dared claim the switch pro/2/electric boogaloo existed
out of all those, Luigi's Mansion 3 impresses me the most with its physics simulation. it makes me wonder what the sequel will do on significantly better hardware
Kevin
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So here are my thoughts on the potential late 2020/early 2023 "4K DLSS enabled hardware launch. Random bunch of words lol:
First I want to say thanks to all of those in this thread who have worked for years keeping all of us up to date on any announcements, rumors and speculation. You know who you are, to many for me to list but I want to personally say thanks.
I think it's very very quiet in terms of any real evidence/news for new hardware. I'm not seeing the evidence at all. We obviously know Nintendo is making new hardware and Nvidia is making a new mobile chip that will likely be used in new Nintendo hardware. The NVN2 code is likely related for new hardware but I also don't think any of this evidence is enough to suggest a launch isn't far off.
I believe the Tegra X1 came out in 2015 and the Switch launched in 2017. Fast forward today the Nvidia chip isn't released at all yet with a possible launch in Q4 assuming no delays. So could we be looking at another couple of years pass that for new Switch hardware? Who knows at this point. It's all speculation.
So here is what I think, if we are getting any new hardware this year then I would imagine we will start getting big leaks by early summer. Maybe June or July. If the new hardware doesn't release until, let's say Spring 2023, maybe launch with Zelda then I think we would need some real evidence by late summer or early fall. Usually some kind of leaks ALWAYS happen in my experience.
I've covered a lot of console launches over the years and there is always evidence for new hardware many months and sometimes years before a major hardware launch and with this Switch "Pro" I'm not seeing that at all which is why I'm personally honestly thinking Nintendo really does intend to milk this old hardware for many years. Personally it's gross, it sucks but let's look at things from a business standpoint. Switch is still selling like crazy at full price. People are STILL hungry for the current Switch. Nintendo probably sees no need to launch new hardware which means spending lots of money, more expensive game development for games with higher visual fidelity, longer development times, etc. Why go for that if most gamers are happy with old hardware which is evident by sales figures.
I don't have much more to say on this subject. The evidence to support new hardware is slim at best. Switch momentum is as high as ever with the old hardware at full price 5+ years later and I think if new hardware really is coming, we would be getting more leaks if not right now then very soon. If we start moving into summer with no substantial leaks then I think we all need to take a step back and start asking if new hardware really is imminent or not. After all we've been talking about this 4K hardware for around 4 years now. New hardware will eventually come but Nintendo may very well wait until the Switch is no longer a big seller. Nintendo seems to be in no hurry to give us new hardware.
I hear that development kits have been out in the wild for at least two years and that seems extremely suspicious with the nature of how that stuff seemingly always leaks. After two years there has been no development kit leaks, developers claim to not even be aware of Switch Pro kits, and well no evidence of actual existence after two years? Call me cynical lol. None of this is a knock on Nate or other insiders. I don't know their sources or anything, I'm merely judging the news that I personally have access to which is well baron to say the least.
When Switch first came out, I thought the hardware was pretty dated from the perspective of a tv console player 5+ years ago. Portable was a lot better experience of course. Fast forward today and I find myself personally not all that excited to play my Switch. Playing more games on PS5 and XSX and now there are reports of a PS5 Pro and Xbox Series XX hardware coming late 2023 and I wouldn't be surprised if that is true. So yes for me, I really want new hardware. Seeing PS5 games on a 65 OLED tv really makes me imagine seeing Nintendo's colorful gorgeous worlds with better visuals. I imagine how lush a Zelda game could look or how alien a Metroid Prime world could look in terms of atmosphere on more modern hardware. We're all dreamers here!
The best piece of evidence I think we really have at this stage is the "NVN2" wording from the Nvidia leak which would suggest a codename for Nintendo's new hardware. Problem with chips are if they follow the trend set by the first Switch, then the Switch 4K may not drop until around 2 years after the Nvidia chip releases. It's possible the timetable could have sped up (or slowed down). Who knows. It's been a LONG time talking about new hardware and after 4 years we still have damn near nothing to go off of and no real hints. We got people analyzing and going crazy every time a new Switch trailer comes out and looks slightly better then last years Switch games. Analyzing graphical effects like potential volumetric cloud technology, improvements to anti aliasing, etc but with these game trailers being for games 1+ years away, I wouldn't even be surprised if they were "touched up" to make them look a little better. Either way this shows how hungry we all are on here for new hardware.
In my mind, I'm beginning to think Nintendo really does intend on making us wait more years. Maybe not 10 but perhaps 7 or 8 years. Maybe we will see new hardware in 2024 or 2025. Who knows, I would say if this year continues to play out with no evidence then that kind of moves the timetables. If Nintendo starts releasing big calibur games like the sequel to Zelda: Breath of the Wild on original Switch hardware then that honestly tells me personally that Switch 2 is like still years out. Otherwise I feel Zelda would absolutely be a crossgen title. Arguably it's Nintendo's BIGGEST game ever and the kind of game you would really want to push new hardware. Like how Majora's Mask supported the expansion pack, Twilight Princess launched both on GameCube and Wii, Twilight Princess on Wii U and Switch, etc. So if Nintendo does go on to release the new Zelda game on original Switch hardware I think that shows that we will be stuck with Switch for years to come whether we like it or not.
I hope I'm wrong, I hope the insiders and people who are still predicting a late 2022 or early 2023 launch are accurate but as every year passes, the timetable keeps changing to; The Next Year! Honestly I hope I don't want to be visiting this thread next year having these same conversations for a 5th year. I do of course appreciate all those people flipping over every rock they come across in search for answers, those looking to the stars for signs, those asking god in prayers for proof of Switch 4K, all of you, I thank you for keeping us all up to date on the latest signs of life. All this waiting for a beefier Switch has made me realized that perhaps I should go outside and touch the grass. The Legend of Zelda: Touch of the Wild! BOOM!
First I want to say thanks to all of those in this thread who have worked for years keeping all of us up to date on any announcements, rumors and speculation. You know who you are, to many for me to list but I want to personally say thanks.
I think it's very very quiet in terms of any real evidence/news for new hardware. I'm not seeing the evidence at all. We obviously know Nintendo is making new hardware and Nvidia is making a new mobile chip that will likely be used in new Nintendo hardware. The NVN2 code is likely related for new hardware but I also don't think any of this evidence is enough to suggest a launch isn't far off.
I believe the Tegra X1 came out in 2015 and the Switch launched in 2017. Fast forward today the Nvidia chip isn't released at all yet with a possible launch in Q4 assuming no delays. So could we be looking at another couple of years pass that for new Switch hardware? Who knows at this point. It's all speculation.
So here is what I think, if we are getting any new hardware this year then I would imagine we will start getting big leaks by early summer. Maybe June or July. If the new hardware doesn't release until, let's say Spring 2023, maybe launch with Zelda then I think we would need some real evidence by late summer or early fall. Usually some kind of leaks ALWAYS happen in my experience.
I've covered a lot of console launches over the years and there is always evidence for new hardware many months and sometimes years before a major hardware launch and with this Switch "Pro" I'm not seeing that at all which is why I'm personally honestly thinking Nintendo really does intend to milk this old hardware for many years. Personally it's gross, it sucks but let's look at things from a business standpoint. Switch is still selling like crazy at full price. People are STILL hungry for the current Switch. Nintendo probably sees no need to launch new hardware which means spending lots of money, more expensive game development for games with higher visual fidelity, longer development times, etc. Why go for that if most gamers are happy with old hardware which is evident by sales figures.
I don't have much more to say on this subject. The evidence to support new hardware is slim at best. Switch momentum is as high as ever with the old hardware at full price 5+ years later and I think if new hardware really is coming, we would be getting more leaks if not right now then very soon. If we start moving into summer with no substantial leaks then I think we all need to take a step back and start asking if new hardware really is imminent or not. After all we've been talking about this 4K hardware for around 4 years now. New hardware will eventually come but Nintendo may very well wait until the Switch is no longer a big seller. Nintendo seems to be in no hurry to give us new hardware.
I hear that development kits have been out in the wild for at least two years and that seems extremely suspicious with the nature of how that stuff seemingly always leaks. After two years there has been no development kit leaks, developers claim to not even be aware of Switch Pro kits, and well no evidence of actual existence after two years? Call me cynical lol. None of this is a knock on Nate or other insiders. I don't know their sources or anything, I'm merely judging the news that I personally have access to which is well baron to say the least.
When Switch first came out, I thought the hardware was pretty dated from the perspective of a tv console player 5+ years ago. Portable was a lot better experience of course. Fast forward today and I find myself personally not all that excited to play my Switch. Playing more games on PS5 and XSX and now there are reports of a PS5 Pro and Xbox Series XX hardware coming late 2023 and I wouldn't be surprised if that is true. So yes for me, I really want new hardware. Seeing PS5 games on a 65 OLED tv really makes me imagine seeing Nintendo's colorful gorgeous worlds with better visuals. I imagine how lush a Zelda game could look or how alien a Metroid Prime world could look in terms of atmosphere on more modern hardware. We're all dreamers here!
The best piece of evidence I think we really have at this stage is the "NVN2" wording from the Nvidia leak which would suggest a codename for Nintendo's new hardware. Problem with chips are if they follow the trend set by the first Switch, then the Switch 4K may not drop until around 2 years after the Nvidia chip releases. It's possible the timetable could have sped up (or slowed down). Who knows. It's been a LONG time talking about new hardware and after 4 years we still have damn near nothing to go off of and no real hints. We got people analyzing and going crazy every time a new Switch trailer comes out and looks slightly better then last years Switch games. Analyzing graphical effects like potential volumetric cloud technology, improvements to anti aliasing, etc but with these game trailers being for games 1+ years away, I wouldn't even be surprised if they were "touched up" to make them look a little better. Either way this shows how hungry we all are on here for new hardware.
In my mind, I'm beginning to think Nintendo really does intend on making us wait more years. Maybe not 10 but perhaps 7 or 8 years. Maybe we will see new hardware in 2024 or 2025. Who knows, I would say if this year continues to play out with no evidence then that kind of moves the timetables. If Nintendo starts releasing big calibur games like the sequel to Zelda: Breath of the Wild on original Switch hardware then that honestly tells me personally that Switch 2 is like still years out. Otherwise I feel Zelda would absolutely be a crossgen title. Arguably it's Nintendo's BIGGEST game ever and the kind of game you would really want to push new hardware. Like how Majora's Mask supported the expansion pack, Twilight Princess launched both on GameCube and Wii, Twilight Princess on Wii U and Switch, etc. So if Nintendo does go on to release the new Zelda game on original Switch hardware I think that shows that we will be stuck with Switch for years to come whether we like it or not.
I hope I'm wrong, I hope the insiders and people who are still predicting a late 2022 or early 2023 launch are accurate but as every year passes, the timetable keeps changing to; The Next Year! Honestly I hope I don't want to be visiting this thread next year having these same conversations for a 5th year. I do of course appreciate all those people flipping over every rock they come across in search for answers, those looking to the stars for signs, those asking god in prayers for proof of Switch 4K, all of you, I thank you for keeping us all up to date on the latest signs of life. All this waiting for a beefier Switch has made me realized that perhaps I should go outside and touch the grass. The Legend of Zelda: Touch of the Wild! BOOM!
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Arguments for a Switch 2/HD/Pro/Whatever being in develoment:
- Consistent reports from various media sources.
- Confirmed leaks via a hack on one of the companies involved
- Increase investment in R&D by Nintendo
- History (~5 years since release, and the unbroken patter of new generations since the 90').
- Nintendo hates tech or something
- Because Nintendo
davec00ke
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Intelligent, thoughtful and likely correct post. You won't be popular around here.
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I'm sure I have thoughts about your whole post but this part in particular stuck out. You're claiming that we haven't had dev kits leaks... despite saying that we've heard dev kits have been out in the wild for "at least two years" (in actuality the first we ever heard about devkits being out was in late 2020). This doesn't track. Hearing rumors about devkits being out in the wild is a dev kit leak. Bloomberg literally cited a specific developer and 10 others as stating they had devkits. There's a lot, lot more evidence than you seem to be thinking there is.
That's not to say you need to believe everything (it's all still rumor after all) but there is most certainly a solid amount of evidence.
Respectfully, I'm fairly sure that one post has more words than all of your posts in this thread combined (probably by several times). Don't act like you add any thoughtful discussion to this discourse.
The problem with this argument is that for various reasons, it made sense for Nintendo at the time to use the off the shelf TX1
T239 is a semi custom chip made for Nintendo. So ofcource it won't release before the next Switch does.
Kevin
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Honestly, I feel like I don't want to put a lot of weight behind Bloomberg as a source. They were entirely wrong last year about the Switch 4K when we ended up with the OLED instead. So I would need to see their receipts when it comes to dev kits. Also I've seen a lot of people posting that the devkits have been in the wild for 2+ years. That being said, I didn't try to track down the timeline so if I'm wrong then thanks for the correction.
Well that's useful information, can't say I know Nvidia's business model. I assumed that Nintendo would be using a cut down version of an Nvidia mobile chip like they did with Tegra X1. I figured Nvidia would have their own mobile products for the new chip and that Nintendo would use a cut down version later on for a Switch 2. Thanks for the information.
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I played a bit of re7 (up until jack chainsaw boss) and the game is stunning but one thing that stood out to me is how static everything is.
Made lm3 look even more impressive i guess
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Bloomberg's sources are very accurate, despite the conclusions drawn by Mochizuki being wrong last year (and fairly often).
Think about it like this:
You have two sets of contacts: contacts in the game development industry who work at various game studios and feed you information about game development, like which unannounced games are in the works, what platforms this studio is currently working on, what new unannounced dev kits are being talked about at the office, things like that.
Then your other set of contacts is in the manufacturing sector. Contacts at places like Samsung or Foxconn or Japan Display or whatever. They give you information about what new products are being manufactured, like when new consoles start production they'll give you a heads up because they're seeing a bunch of new parts.
If you're Mochizuki, and on the one hand you have developer contacts telling you they're working on games for a new Nintendo Switch devkit capable of 4k, and on the other hand you have your manufacturing contacts telling you they're starting production on a new, bigger Switch shell with an OLED screen, it is extremely natural (and IMO forgivable) to assume those two pieces of information are referring to the same product. When in actuality they were referring to two separate products of course.
So his info is still very likely right, you don't just make up a story about 11 developers having devkits. The problem is the conclusion he draws (sometimes) from said info from disparate sources.
The problem is, Nvidia doesn't really have a mobile/ tablet line in their roadmap. The Tegra line has become a lot more specialised for robotics/ cars/ AI.
So semi custom was really the only choice for the next Switch.
when you aim for 1080/60 on the Xbox One, you have to be prepared to make concessions. a Resident Evil with lots of physics would be interesting. could go full poltergeist to freak out players
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It is nowhere near true that Mochizuki was "entirely wrong" about the Switch OLED. He reported on the displays from Samsung months in advance, sharing a byline with a Samsung focused reporter based in Seoul. He reported on the manufacturing ramp up with a supply chain source in Taiwan. The product was described in detail ahead of time, with the only detail mixed up being the inclusion of the new SoC.
Given your exhaustive opinion on the subject, it's odd that you don't know this.
Look over there
Bob-omb
If the device to utilize NVN2 was planned to release in 2024/2025, why is its CUDA compatibility version in between Ampere (late 2020) and Ada/Lovelace (later this year)? Why isn't it at Ada/Lovelace level, at its successor's level (based on Nvidia's cadence, probably 2024), or at some level in between? Why does NVN2 say that for best compatibility in a dev environment, use Ampere?
The Tegra X1 launched in 2015, in between Maxwell and Pascal. And IIRC, architecture/feature-wise, it's basically... Maxwell+? So why wouldn't a chip that so far looks like Ampere or Ampere+ be released sometime near Ada/Lovelace's launch, as opposed to the following generation after that?
The Tegra X1 launched in 2015, in between Maxwell and Pascal. And IIRC, architecture/feature-wise, it's basically... Maxwell+? So why wouldn't a chip that so far looks like Ampere or Ampere+ be released sometime near Ada/Lovelace's launch, as opposed to the following generation after that?
ShaunSwitch
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I'd just like to add to this. Using an off the shelf tx1 made sense to both companies.
Nintendo were looking for a partner after the WiiU flopped. The 3DS also had a rocky start in part due to its price point. So the switch hardware, whilst cool in concept was no guaranteed return on the amount of investment required for a completely new operating system, hardware concept, ecosystem, API, Dev tools etc, let alone adding a semi custom chip into the equation. The gamble to Nvidia was likely lessened greatly by Nintendo using a chip that could go into any number of products. If switch flopped, the fab space could be used to manufacture Tegra X1 chips for other devices.
The switch was a gamble for both Nintendo and Nvidia, one that paid off massively. Whilst I'm not saying either company went into this overly cautious, I think Nvidia and Nintendo can afford to be much more bullish now its a proven concept and the Drake chip will be a semi custom part just for Nintendos needs, binned chips may go into a Shield device, but Nintendo is 100% the intended primary customer.
This is also why I think Nintendo and Nvidia are going for a more advanced chip, on an advanced node. They know they can charge a premium for a high end device and the fans will lap it up.
NateDrake
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Which is a bogus claim. I've been very open and, if anything, too detailed in sharing select info. A user asks me if I would share any of the games I know are in development with the new kits. I respond that I'd consider sharing some after the hardware is revealed.
Persona A asks question.
Answer given
Persona B: aNyONe could GuEss that!
End result: Won't answer questions moving forward.
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Will you buy me one on launch day if you're wrong?
Just jealousy because you know things they don't mate. You're used to it by now. That's actually why I thought you called your show "Nate the Hate".
Anyone think the new Xenoblade 3 footage looks too crisp, too smooth and has more going on screen to be running on the current Switch? It looks superb visually imo. Also strange they moved it forward a couple of months...
Please don't let a few rotten apples stop you from adhering to your values of being open, detailed, and willing to answer questions that we might genuinely have. You're a valued person and most of us appreciate your insights and insider info. Just mentally blacklist those people and ignore them, please
Which, unfortunately, is what person B really wants anyway. But I can't blame ya.
The Tegra line was never exactly popular with devices in and around the Switch's power class, but back in 2015 it was still getting non-Nintendo wins like the Pixel C, which uses the same chip as the launch Switch. Since then, Nvidia's SoCs have pivoted pretty hard towards more automotive/datacenter uses, with Nintendo seemingly mostly dictating a lot of their lower end stuff at this point. I'm pretty sure even the Mariko revision of the Shield came after Nintendo already started using the chip.
When Nintendo and Nvidia started working together on the Switch, the TX1 design was probably already mostly settled. This time around, Nintendo is not only involved from the beginning, but quite likely the primary customer the chip is being designed for unless there's some other one we don't know about. A new Shield and possibly some dev boards utilizing the new chip are likely to come from Nvidia at some point down the line, but there doesn't seem to be any reason to think those are the primary driving force behind the chip's development right now. The chip is, to some degree, based on Orin, but that's a very different scenario to TX1, where the version that launched in 2015 is effectively what Nintendo ended up using.
Kevin
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To be honest, I don't have a Bloomberg account and never researched the author of the articles or have done any level of digging into Mochizuki or his sources. He seemed to push a 4K Switch hard and was wrong. In reality the Switch IS source code referenced the OLED display and 4K HDMI port. This may or may not have been his source. I don't know. Just know the guy was wrong which personally makes me question the source dev kit claims. I haven't seen any updates on development kits lately either unless I missed something.
ShadowFox08
Paratroopa
Not to mention Nintendo can and will change business decisions at a moments notice. I'm sure they react to these leaks by WSJ and their sources, and plan accordingly. So leaks can seem "outdated."
Look over there
Bob-omb
Quick question: Have you followed PC hardware space in the past year and a half? Because the trend observed there is not to simply ride out the demand, but to (attempt to) 'strike while the iron is hot'. For example, see the existence of the damned Radeon RX 6500 XT.
Whenever the hardware is ready to go, is there any reason to delay its launch while we're in an environment where it's very, very likely to sell out?
Kevin
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So whats the popular release timeline for new hardware? Late 2022/Early 2023?
davec00ke
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PC Hardware companies make money selling hardware with BIG JUICY PROFIT margins which consoles don't have.
Kevin
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Look over there
Bob-omb
I personally think that the intention/aim is for late 2022, with decent likelihood of early 2023. Later into 2023 also sounds fair, but implies more hiccups than expected to me.
2024/2025 to me at least is, 'something went wrong somewhere and there was redesigning'.
Right. That also doesn't answer the question.
Yeah, the rumors seem to be pointing towards some time this fiscal year, with late 2022 being the likely target.
Mr Doggo
Anti oof
This. 60fps this 60fps that, id much prefer 30fps with decent res than a better fps at 240p.
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