Crazy that all of the most impressive PS5 games are cross gen titles.With the hardware available, it can literally look like this:
(PS4 Pro screenshots)
Obviously Zelda will have a different art style, but yeah it has the potential to look damn good.
Any chance it could be using Tegra Blackwell?
I like your funny words magic manhave fun reading! i took his same equations and wrote up a lil image wit some numbers to make it make some more sense for myself. heres my latest updated one if anyone wants to look at it
Kinda hard faking legitimate shipping information.
Can someone explain what’s this shipping info? What is it? Why is it trustworthy?
Yep. Its crazy what Sony managed to squeeze out of the PS4.
No trust needed, shipping records are public so you can verify for yourself.
I think Joycons having back paddles would be kinda hard to pull off. Most people's hands are big enough to where a back paddle on the joycon wouldn't be near the tips of their fingers. Back paddles would require a new design of the joycon grip too, where there's no back it to get in the way of said paddles.Brother… the back paddles is meant for the Switch 2 pro controller that cost the same as a switch lite.
But in all serious if the joy cons have back paddles I would be genuinely impressed.
products from the people who put together the system are being shipped to put together systems. it's a first hand source
I can't really imagine back touch pads making much sense, though (especially on joy-cons where space is limited), it's probably just buttons. Apparently the details came from third party peripheral makers actively touching the device but not seeing it, so it'd be something they'd notice through touch alone, which touch pads would probably wouldn't be.
For what it's worth, the joycons are apparently getting a redesign anyway, especially with the new magnetic attachment mechanism, if reports are to be believed.
this is a pretty boring answer but thanks
Nope. It's still T239. Nvidia tested (and possibly yes, revised) T239 over the course of 2022, and since then, there has been no more Tegra development (except for Thor which is just now starting to surface in its early stages). While we don't know what they did while testing or revising it, one thing they definitely didn't do is change the GPU architecture or anything else fundamental to the design, because that can't be done in a few months in between tapeouts.
Yea that's exactly what I was expecting. Still hoping it'll be $350 max
Did you spend some time reading the last 15 or 20 pages first before asking that?
Hope you don't mind, but I just made a plot, sometimes it's nice to see things as a curve.
how do you make these, thats amazing
Back Paddles are patented by SCUF. Microsoft pays them to use it on Elite controller. I doubt Nintendo would pay some dollars to be able to use it on Switch, but I may be wrong.
Where did you hear this? I was under the impression that the new buttons (if the accessory manufacturer leaks were even real) were extra side buttons.
Meant to ask earlier - where did you find numbers for the first curve (the one labeled ??? in the graph)? Was it from Thraktor's writeup? Wondering what the first curve is but I assume you're not sure thus the ??? label?
these are coming from publicly available shipment documents that people are deciphering part numbers and matching them to manufacturers identifications for parts, not some insider who may or may not be a real one, or random screen snip from random website leaking news.
i would hope so, as its the studio that brought us this amazing piece of art
Kena reminds me a bit of Zelda as well.
I have been summoned by accident it seems like
First I just want to say this isn't the case, touchpads would absolutely have more various usecases and are pretty reliable tech, they could even, yes, act as buttons.
, I just copied your data to a .csv file with tab separated columns.
import matplotlib.pyplot as plt
import numpy as np
import pandas as pd
df = pd.read_csv("switch.txt",sep="\t", header=None, names=["TFLOPS",
"CLOCKS",
"QuestionMark",
"SEC5", "SEC8"])
plt.style.use('ggplot')
fig,axs = plt.subplots(1)
axs.plot(df.QuestionMark, df.TFLOPS, 'o-')
axs.plot(df.SEC5, df.TFLOPS, 'o-')
axs.plot(df.SEC8, df.TFLOPS, 'o-')
for x, y, text in zip(df.QuestionMark-2.5, df.TFLOPS, df.CLOCKS):
plt.text(x, y, text, alpha=0.3)
axs.set_xlim(0, 35)
axs.set_ylabel("TFLOPs (FP32)")
axs.set_xlabel("Estimated Power consumption [W]")
plt.legend(['???', 'SEC5', 'SEC8'])
plt.suptitle("Estimated Power Consumption T239 [12SM GPU]", y=0.99)
plt.title("Marker labels: GPU Clock Speed [GHz] \nData taken from: 7hatDeadCat & Thraktor", fontsize=8)
plt.grid(True)
plt.savefig("t239-estimated-powerFreq-curve.png")
plt.show()
If the inflation landscape remains the same (and also weak yen) I would expect something like $430, €399 and ¥39000, considering that US has less problems with the price than Europe (and Nintendo would asbolutely avoid having more than ¥40000 in Japan imo)Yea that's exactly what I was expecting. Still hoping it'll be $350 max
Matplotlib my beloved. That's my shitJust a simple python script
I didn't spend much time on it lol, but I'll share some sloppy code..
Python:import matplotlib.pyplot as plt import numpy as np import pandas as pd df = pd.read_csv("switch.txt",sep="\t", header=None, names=["TFLOPS", "CLOCKS", "QuestionMark", "SEC5", "SEC8"]) plt.style.use('ggplot') fig,axs = plt.subplots(1) axs.plot(df.QuestionMark, df.TFLOPS, 'o-') axs.plot(df.SEC5, df.TFLOPS, 'o-') axs.plot(df.SEC8, df.TFLOPS, 'o-') for x, y, text in zip(df.QuestionMark-2.5, df.TFLOPS, df.CLOCKS): plt.text(x, y, text, alpha=0.3) axs.set_xlim(0, 35) axs.set_ylabel("TFLOPs (FP32)") axs.set_xlabel("Estimated Power consumption [W]") plt.legend(['???', 'SEC5', 'SEC8']) plt.suptitle("Estimated Power Consumption T239 [12SM GPU]", y=0.99) plt.title("Marker labels: GPU Clock Speed [GHz] \nData taken from: 7hatDeadCat & Thraktor", fontsize=8) plt.grid(True) plt.savefig("t239-estimated-powerFreq-curve.png") plt.show()
actually no thats entirely my doing. thraktor estimated the SEC5nm formula as 73% of 4132, so i wondered what 73% of 3016 would be, which gives me 2201. its a little more than half the power consumption of SEC8nm, which is just a silly lil "what if" for something lower than SEC5nm. i didnt know what to call it and i dont want to say "this is my TSMC4nm" cus eh its nowhere near as well thought out as thraktors work
Kena reminds me a bit of Zelda as well.
With the hardware available, it can literally look like this:
(PS4 Pro screenshots)
Obviously Zelda will have a different art style, but yeah it has the potential to look damn good.
Apparently not back buttons, though - hence the third-party controllers conspicuously not using the SCUF-style paddles, and also the Steam Deck.
The Mobapad report quite specifically says there's a back button and an extra button on the front on each joy-con, complete with images showing specific locations.
To be fair, it'd have to be well-designed to act as both a trackpad and a button. You don't want to press it accidentally, for example. I wasn't really a fan of the Vita's back pad, for example, but we'll see. But current reporting heavily suggests they'll be back buttons.
Just a simple python script
I didn't spend much time on it lol, but I'll share some sloppy code..
Python:import matplotlib.pyplot as plt import numpy as np import pandas as pd df = pd.read_csv("switch.txt",sep="\t", header=None, names=["TFLOPS", "CLOCKS", "QuestionMark", "SEC5", "SEC8"]) plt.style.use('ggplot') fig,axs = plt.subplots(1) axs.plot(df.QuestionMark, df.TFLOPS, 'o-') axs.plot(df.SEC5, df.TFLOPS, 'o-') axs.plot(df.SEC8, df.TFLOPS, 'o-') for x, y, text in zip(df.QuestionMark-2.5, df.TFLOPS, df.CLOCKS): plt.text(x, y, text, alpha=0.3) axs.set_xlim(0, 35) axs.set_ylabel("TFLOPs (FP32)") axs.set_xlabel("Estimated Power consumption [W]") plt.legend(['???', 'SEC5', 'SEC8']) plt.suptitle("Estimated Power Consumption T239 [12SM GPU]", y=0.99) plt.title("Marker labels: GPU Clock Speed [GHz] \nData taken from: 7hatDeadCat & Thraktor", fontsize=8) plt.grid(True) plt.savefig("t239-estimated-powerFreq-curve.png") plt.show()
yeh i aint smart enough to do that, thank you! i love the graph
Haha cool.I'm not being sarcastic. I'm skipping pages.
It's good to know that I managed to post something that had ambiguous sarcasm.
Due to the inclusion of taxes in European pricing, and exclusion from American pricing, I expect the price to be €399/$399 or €449/$449.
Nintendo has some of the best tech wizards in the business so I'm really interested to see what they could pull off.With the hardware available, it can literally look like this:
(PS4 Pro screenshots)
Obviously Zelda will have a different art style, but yeah it has the potential to look damn good.
The only wording I see similar to this is "later-reduced model" in Q7 of the google translation of the Q&A. If that's what you're referring to, it's a mistranslation and should say successor model.
