Let's just say more powerful switch.You mean a switch 2, the current one is about to be 6years old.
Let's just say more powerful switch.You mean a switch 2, the current one is about to be 6years old.
In that case, that switch pro already came out in 2019Let's just say more powerful switch.
If no new updated HW releases with Zelda and especially not the end of 2023, then what have Nvidia/Nintendo HW teams been working on since late 2016/early 2017? Mariko can't have been it right?Will the cause of dev kits being out for more than two years be because of COVID? What's the status on the current dev kits that have (supposedly) been distributed since late 2020/early 2021? Are they just being extra careful and testing T239 for a really long time?In both of those cases, there is no conceivable way Nintendo/ Nvidia didn't know the exact power/ performance ratio figures down to the 0,1 watt before the project was greenlit. Those nodes were very well known quantities.
My point is, we spent too much time in this thread debating the difference between successor and revision. Everyone is sick of it.In that case, that switch pro already came out in 2019
No.So with all what happened if I may ask can we entertain the idea Drake Switch was canned? Pause. I know it sounds controversial with all the solid data we have and the Linux commits about T239 physically existing but with DF and Nate infos and this OLED Zelda Switch(that anyone believing in an H1 2023 release could not even think may happen) I just want that we should entertain that possibility. Don't get me wrong I think Drake Switch being canned is unlikely(I even hope this leak is somehow fake) but Nintendo can be so weird and unpredictable(It was kind of logical to launch Switch 2 with their most anticipated game even if that meant delaying the game, Switch 2 certainly needs it more than the aging Switch). Yes they invested tons of R&D and devs were working on Drake which makes it even more unlikely but we just don't know for certain with Nintendo. Maybe they got really big headed and revised their planning thinking they can ride on Switch still late 2024/2025??(It may sound weird but with Nintendo's comments of Switch lasting longer and Nintendo kind of greedy mindset I don't know what to think). At this point Drake cancelled or not would it make sense to use it?
So with all what happened if I may ask can we entertain the idea Drake Switch was canned? Pause. I know it sounds controversial with all the solid data we have and the Linux commits about T239 physically existing but with DF and Nate infos and this OLED Zelda Switch(that anyone believing in an H1 2023 release could not even think may happen) I just want that we should entertain that possibility. Don't get me wrong I think Drake Switch being canned is unlikely(I even hope this leak is somehow fake) but Nintendo can be so weird and unpredictable(It was kind of logical to launch Switch 2 with their most anticipated game even if that meant delaying the game, Switch 2 certainly needs it more than the aging Switch). Yes they invested tons of R&D and devs were working on Drake which makes it even more unlikely but we just don't know for certain with Nintendo. Maybe they got really big headed and revised their planning thinking they can ride on Switch still late 2024/2025??(It may sound weird but with Nintendo's comments of Switch lasting longer and Nintendo kind of greedy mindset I don't know what to think). At this point Drake cancelled or not would it make sense to use it?
I know, I’m just messing with you.My point is, we spent too much time in this thread debating the difference between successor and revision. Everyone is sick of it.
It's very well documented what Nintendo has been working on that time. Nvn2/ T239. Whatever this supposedly canned 2023 hardware was, and how Drake fits into that is indeed a mystery.If no new updated HW releases with Zelda and especially not the end of 2023, then what have Nvidia/Nintendo HW teams been working on since late 2016/early 2017? Mariko can't have been it right?Will the cause of dev kits being out for more than two years be because of COVID? What's the status on the current dev kits that have (supposedly) been distributed since late 2020/early 2021? Are they just being extra careful and testing T239 for a really long time?
If this thing does end up coming holiday 2023 or later, I hope there was a good reason for it. Die shrink? Sure. They wanted to close the gap between Drake and current gen as much as possible? I can live with that. I'm just saying I hope they make the (if nothing else comes with TotK) 6+ year for more powerful HW worth it. Like I hope they didn't hold off solely to wait out until the chip shortage was completely over (not that it isn't a good reason). I just hope that the second major fruit of this "20 year relationship" is worth the wait.
Drake was not canned. We can say that with almost 100% certainty.So with all what happened if I may ask can we entertain the idea Drake Switch was canned? Pause. I know it sounds controversial with all the solid data we have and the Linux commits about T239 physically existing but with DF and Nate infos and this OLED Zelda Switch(that anyone believing in an H1 2023 release could not even think may happen) I just want that we should entertain that possibility. Don't get me wrong I think Drake Switch being canned is unlikely(I even hope this leak is somehow fake) but Nintendo can be so weird and unpredictable(It was kind of logical to launch Switch 2 with their most anticipated game even if that meant delaying the game, Switch 2 certainly needs it more than the aging Switch). Yes they invested tons of R&D and devs were working on Drake which makes it even more unlikely but we just don't know for certain with Nintendo. Maybe they got really big headed and revised their planning thinking they can ride on Switch still late 2024/2025??(It may sound weird but with Nintendo's comments of Switch lasting longer and Nintendo kind of greedy mindset I don't know what to think). At this point Drake cancelled or not would it make sense to use it?
I feel like people aren't appreciating the seriousness of what cancelling new hardware with a custom SoC and new Nvidia-developed GPU features after multiple years of work, with SDKs and/or devkits already sent out, would mean. This is not like, what if the Game Boy Micro was cancelled. Asking what if the Drake Switch was canned is like asking what if the original Switch had been canned in 2016. That would be a massive event and we would hear about it from multiple real sources with definitive proof about what it was and when it was cancelled. We wouldn't hear about it from one single person offhandedly as "from what I understand a mid-gen refresh was cancelled" when the latter isn't what a Drake Switch would be in the first place.Drake was not canned. We can say that with almost 100% certainty.
Drake Switch? Probably not canned but less certain.
You don't commission a custom soc and build a API for it just to can it once it's completed. No fucking way.Drake was not canned. We can say that with almost 100% certainty.
Drake Switch? Probably not canned but less certain.
I don't think so. It sounds like the Switch Pro was a product being planned to release a couple years ago. The Switch OLED was likely going to be a Pro model, but the higher performance, regardless if it was a high clocked Mariko chip or a brand new chip altogether, was scraped and Nintendo simply released it as the OLED model. Even when you listen to John at DF, his comments sounds like the Pro was a model they had considered a while back but got canceled, not something that was canned a earlier this year.
Hope you all are true because I don't even believe in what I've written. What happened the past hours have risen alot of uncertainty for me.Drake was not canned. We can say that with almost 100% certainty.
Drake Switch? Probably not canned but less certain.
Mario 25th Anniversary DSi XL 3 months prior to 3DS launch, annnounced and released after the 3DS was already announced for release in February 2011.New Nintendo 3DS was announced like a week after Smash 3DS XL SE was revealed.
Nintendo Switch was revealed the month after the Solgaleo and Lunala New 3DS XL was announced.
Didn't the Famicom themed Game Boy Micro come out AFTER the DS?
When two or more "game journalists" agree on something it's usually the best time to suspect something's up.Fair points but I wanted to comment on this one- as someone else noted above a lot of people like Chris Dring and Andy Robinson seem to think TOTK is the last "big" title they'll have for a while, at least through 2023.
Of course they could all just simply be wrong.
I feel like people aren't appreciating the seriousness of what cancelling new hardware with a custom SoC and new Nvidia-developed GPU features after multiple years of work, with SDKs and/or devkits already sent out, would mean. This is not like, what if the Game Boy Micro was cancelled. Asking what if the Drake Switch was canned is like asking what if the original Switch had been canned in 2016. That would be a massive event and we would hear about it from multiple real sources with definitive proof about what it was and when it was cancelled. We wouldn't hear about it from one single person offhandedly as "from what I understand a mid-gen refresh was cancelled" when the latter isn't what a Drake Switch would be in the first place.
I agree with both of you, I'm just speaking to what we know for certain versus what is exceedingly likely.You don't commission a custom soc and build a API for it just to can it once it's completed. No fucking way.
You don't commission a custom soc and build a API for it just to can it once it's completed. No fucking way.
Full copium mode:Here is a SS of my embarrassing DMs with said man. He never responds to me lol. Just sent the last 2 leaks and dips.
I can provide any proof you request if you want to see the dms
No that information was from 2022 and the same chip has been referenced as recently as August of this year.What if it's changed and therefore delayed?
We know about the specs and NVN2 from the Nvidia leak, but wasn't that information from 2021?
What if the specis/GPU architecture of T239 has change by now?
Hopefully things will be clearer in the coming weeks and months.What if it's changed and therefore delayed?
We know about the specs and NVN2 from the Nvidia leak, but wasn't that information from 2021?
What if the specis/GPU architecture of T239 has change by now?
I'm not gonna pile on with yet another No, but I do want to say this:So with all what happened if I may ask can we entertain the idea Drake Switch was canned? Pause. I know it sounds controversial with all the solid data we have and the Linux commits about T239 physically existing but with DF and Nate infos and this OLED Zelda Switch(that anyone believing in an H1 2023 release could not even think may happen) I just want that we should entertain that possibility. Don't get me wrong I think Drake Switch being canned is unlikely(I even hope this leak is somehow fake) but Nintendo can be so weird and unpredictable(It was kind of logical to launch Switch 2 with their most anticipated game even if that meant delaying the game, Switch 2 certainly needs it more than the aging Switch). Yes they invested tons of R&D and devs were working on Drake which makes it even more unlikely but we just don't know for certain with Nintendo. Maybe they got really big headed and revised their planning thinking they can ride on Switch still late 2024/2025??(It may sound weird but with Nintendo's comments of Switch lasting longer and Nintendo kind of greedy mindset I don't know what to think). At this point Drake cancelled or not would it make sense to use it?
It is time for primetimeFull copium mode:
Switch 2 is gonna be released with Metroid Prime Remake, which would show the power of the new system much better than the sequel that looks almost the same as the six year old predecessor.
Belmont on resetera had a pretty big post on the Metroid Prime Remake, who heard that the game will look pretty impressive. Not sure if he was reliable.
double full copium mode:
Switch 2 is named Switch Prime
Micro in general came out nearly a year after DS.Didn't the Famicom themed Game Boy Micro come out AFTER the DS?
It's very well documented what Nintendo has been working on that time. Nvn2/ T239. Whatever this supposedly canned 2023 hardware was, and how Drake fits into that is indeed a mystery.
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I think people are seeming to weigh possibilities against how much they would disappoint us. Like, it would be incredibly tough for us to swallow, but of course that doesn't make it an impossible thing to happen! But think instead about what it would mean for Nintendo, Nvidia, and any third parties who were brought on board in the last 2-3 years.Hope you all are true because I don't even want to believe in what I've wrote. What happened the past hours have risen alot of uncertainty for me.
Amazon Prime Video!It is time for primetime
that's the equivalent of Drake being cannedWhat if it's changed and therefore delayed?
We know about the specs and NVN2 from the Nvidia leak, but wasn't that information from 2021?
What if the specis/GPU architecture of T239 has change by now?
Very poor service…. Prime only refers to Metroid.Amazon Prime Video!
What is the source for them stopping v2 production?If Nintendo is stopping v2 Switch production then I think new hardware is releasing next year.
The funcle, or the Chinese forums.What is the source for them stopping v2 production?
Yeah, for us to even consider that Drake was canned...that in and of itself isn't the biggest problem (it disappoints us, sure), but the implications as a result of that. Like what that would mean in practicality. Saying or accepting that "Drake was canceled everyone!" is the easy part. The consequences of something like that happening are, putting it lightly, significant. It doesn't "answer" what's going on with Drake; it only would create more questions.I think people are seeming to weigh possibilities against how much they would disappoint us. Like, it would be incredibly tough for us to swallow, but of course that doesn't make it an impossible thing to happen! But think instead about what it would mean for Nintendo, Nvidia, and any third parties who were brought on board in the last 2-3 years.
Believing that a planned 2023 Drake Switch was cancelled means believing that the most significant event in Nintendo's entire history of hardware happened and the only place we heard about it was as a "mid-gen refresh" (which it isn't) being shelved from one person's offhand comment in a podcast.
Where are the third parties who were supposedly developing games, even some exclusives, for this system? They're totally chill that it got cancelled after SDKs and/or devkits were sent to them? Not one person at any one of these companies leaking this information to the likes of Bloomberg? The story itself doesn't make any sense to begin with and the idea that it could happen so quietly doesn't make sense either.
Ask yourself, why would they even need to? They don't need a first party game for every month of the year. And releasing two brand new Mario games in one year doesn't make a lot of sense, imo. Switch 2 would appeal to the core gamers at first.I can believe in a 2D Mario in April, a 3D it's impossible.
Those guys though, aren't well established or had great track records that last time I checked. One guy was adamant we were absolutely oing to have TP HD and WW HD before Totk.When two or more "game journalists" agree on something it's usually the best time to suspect something's up.
For Animal Crossing there's at least a decent explanation - COVID hit like right before the game launched. I'm sure that threw a massive wrench into their plans for supporting it.The only way it makes sense for Zelda to be the last big game for a while is Nintendo completely fucking up again like they did with the Wii and killing the system by abandoning it basically. So it's not impossible but it would be a terrible thing.
I am not goingto lie Nintendo has done some boneheaded stuff this gen. Animal Crossing should have been handled way better than it was. It literally screams release lots of dlc for me and they basically put out a few patches then said later
speaking of support though, that's how the system will stay relevant without major new software. mario kart is live, splatoon is live, xenoblade is live (maybe? iirc), etcThe only way it makes sense for Zelda to be the last big game for a while is Nintendo completely fucking up again like they did with the Wii and killing the system by abandoning it basically. So it's not impossible but it would be a terrible thing.
I am not goingto lie Nintendo has done some boneheaded stuff this gen. Animal Crossing should have been handled way better than it was. It literally screams release lots of dlc for me and they basically put out a few patches then said later