Mark Cerny mentioned third party developers requested a NVMe SSD with at least a sequential read speed of 1 GB/s for the PlayStation 5.
Generally yes, especially under the Yamauchi years, but from what I've read Iwata was working hard behind the scenes during the latter Wii years and especially the WiiU years to try and get third party goodwill back. I wouldn't be surprised if opening up to feedback from large, longtime developers like Capcom was a thing Iwata did.
My understanding of the story was that Capcom warned Nintendo about the lack of RAM, probably saying they should've 8, and Nintendo bumped from 3 to 4.On the subject of RAM for the original Switch:
This gigaleak slide from June 2015 shows they were already planning on using 4 GB (although it's bolded, so maybe it was changed recently?). Funnily enough, it also shows they were planning on 16 GB of internal storage at that point. That changed to 32 GB sometime in the next 8-ish months, though.
Yes, but from the stories we know, the Switch hardware development still didn't have much involvement from third parties. Iwatas advances were more in things such as better dev tools, better licensing deals, like the Switch dev kit only costing $ 500, compared to the several thousands on previous Nintendo systems from what I've heard.
But this is not a Playstation 5 and it's not expected to have the performance of a Playstation 5. That's the whole point. Its main draw will be to be able to play all eight generation games portably, Nintendo games, indie games and AA games.
The Switch has half of the RAM of it's concurrence. Again, the Wii U having 4 times the RAM of PS3 is nothing special, it was a generation above, it still had 4 times less RAM than it's actual concurrence the PS4 and XO. So I really don't understand you guys' logic here.
I see where you coming from and this is probably most people's first thought.
4GB, not 8. Sony was told that PS4 would fail if it did not have 8GB, so they upped it to that.
That's different from what I've been reading, that Nintendo involved 3rd-parties early on in Switch's design.
I do think the goal is to have most gen 9 AAA multiplats and I do think it's realistically possible thanks to DLSS.
Yes, that was a typo, already edited.
I don't remember reading that in Iwatas interviews or on Reggies book, I could be wrong obviously, none of us knows the full story.
UFS is dirt cheap, eMMC is just cheaper. UFS is extremely common
Given that Switch in overall power lies between PS4/XB1 and PS3/360, having any more than 4GB would have been a waste, especially given that the Tegra X1's RAM bandwidth was restricted to 25.6GB/s.
The better way to look at it is to look at my post upthread responding to your original comment. The Wii was basically a X360 pro, Switch was a refinement of that idea in a different form factor, so it doesn't fit neatly. If this new device is targeting the 2-4TF power range but improving on it with years of improvements to tech, then they will very likely go with more RAM. 12 makes sense (the XBONEX has 12), but 16 also since 8GB RAM modules are widely used in phones and the price difference may not be huge.
I know what Direct Storage is. I am saying that trying to match the asset streaming capabilities of the PS5 is a futile exercise
I never said storage won't or shouldn't be faster, just that trying to make it faster at all costs is not the best choice, especially if it prevents customers from just buying a micro sd and using it with the console like it was suggested in this thread in the past.
This is irrelevant. Your statement was "Nintendo notoriously cheaps out on RAM." Not "Nintendo's machines are generally specced lower than their counterparts."
I have no idea where you're getting this from. In all likelihood Nintendo literally sends out early hardware and SDKs with their own feedback forms. How much they take that feedback under consideration will vary with circumstances, but I assure you they've done some amount of this since the 2000s.
Also no. In fact, in that conference talk, Capcom said 4 GB was exactly what they recommended.
Lite has always been $200. Maybe $150?
4k 60fps with DLSS maybe (I'm thinking more like 1440p 60fps), but RT will cut it down to 30 fps and likely a lower resolution as well.
We're not getting a new Mario kart next year. Not when we are getting the last MK8d dlc pack by end of Q4 2023.
Launch year could also mean 2024. Mario Kart 8 was released in 2014 and hasn't stopped selling since. Releasing a new Mario Kart to sell alongside the system is a guaranteed system seller for its entire lifetime. We also don't know what Yabuki's team has been doing.
Nintendo is a japanese company that cares very much about its home country. There's 0% of a reveal at an american event. Imagine Apple revealing their vr headset during next year's Eurovision
That's a bit narrow. Before 8 Deluxe the most successful Mario Kart game was Wii, which arrived 1.5 years after launch.
We know exactly what they've been doing - making Mario Kart Tour, and then reworking those tracks for extended MK DLC. They went straight into that after making ARMS. EPD9 makes a Mario Kart for the main console, they make a handheld Mario Kart, then they go back.
I don't know about essential. The Wii, Wii U, DS, 3DS, SNES, all launched without a Mario Kart in their first six months. Nintendo probably wants to replace MK8, because the attach rate is so high, that even with new hardware they're gonna run out of people to sell the thing to, but since the Booster Course Pass, it seems unlikely they're ready to move on.
I agree. 8GB RAM in a device released before next September would, once again, be more than the contemporary iPhone (even the iPhone Pro!). It's a healthy figure.
Depends on what their goal are. If they want as many ports as possible, 12 is definitely a lot better than 8.
I think this disparity lies in the fact that for many the new Switch is not an exciting new product that needs sold but instead the savior of Nintendo games. i.e. launching with Zelda is good for the game, not the system.
The DLCs are tracks that had been already developed for the mobile game. While porting them to 8 is not as easy as pressing a button, I can't believe that's what the entire team has been doing for the past 3 years.
they can do both of course. airing the super bowl teaser and the jp teaser literally minutes afterwards. good marketing means tailoring ads to the location. taking advantage of the super bowl would be a good move to get people excited
sorry for the extra reply, but isn't Mario Kart Tour built in Unity? unless by totally new engine you meant totally new for the team
Nintendo will never reveal a new hardware without their own terms lol. They will reveal their hardware on their exact terms, on their own circumstances. It's the same as some people thought it will be at TGA, will never ever happen.
I don't think it'll be there, but it's not impossible. and the post in question was about a teaser. it'd be a fancier "mario behind the curtain" twitter post essentially
Yep, at least according to Wikipedia.
Most of the likely port candidates (eighth generation home console games and current cross-gen games) already run on hardware with 8GB of RAM, though. And significantly less than 8 of that is usable by games, in the case of the Xbox One.
Maybe not those that push em to the limit. But a port here and there past cross gen, is probably something they want.
You know, I kinda agree, but let me make the alternative case.
There aren't market conditions for 4 models, but there are absolutely market conditions for 3. We have 3 now for a reason. The Lite doesn't sell to price conscious gamers, it sells to handheld only gamers. The price point helps, mostly by allowing gamers to buy a second device for their kid/spouse, or for gamers who would never buy a console to justify a purchase of mobile hardware that can't make phone calls but can play Pokemon.
They run on hardware with 12GB of RAM. This is 4k hardware, like the pro consoles. DLSS might be more efficient in terms of GPU power, and be higher quality, but you still need RAM for those higher res assets.
I think they are, in the sense that (nearly) the only reason games don't come is due to politics rather than outright performance.
I just want to say that I own a Playstation Vita. As long as 100 MB/s micro sd cards will be supported I don't think there are problems.
I think that a safe, iterative Switch would make a lot of third parties include Nintendo in their multiplatform plans regardless. At worst we'd see a lot more Hogwarts Legacy/Doom Eternal situations.
"Retina" is a silly term coined by Apple for marketing purposes. The same Apple that uses 1080p+ screens on their 6.1 smartphones, while the Switch will have at least a 7 inch screen.
100%
The Media Create thread is leaking. That's not true. Virtuous had to change a lot of assets in Nier, The sinking city also had problems. Doom Eternal and Hogwarts Legacy got delayed despite being announced for the platform on day 1
that's not detracting from my point. there does exist a point where games can't come the system, unless you want to make the claim that Hogwarts could work on the 360
Tour launched public beta 18 months after ARMS released. It has 102 courses. They did not make all 102 courses in 18 months, they've been making them as they go. It took 4 years to make 48 courses for MK8, you think it's unbelievable that in 5 years since ARMS they've only made 102?
I only played the game when it came out, but I thought they just relied on Bandai Namco for asset creation. It would be incredibly sad if the whole team did nothing but update Tour since 2019
As someone whose formal education was research on visual acuity and recognition I can assure you that while Retina is a marketing term, it isn't silly. Pixel density smaller than foveal acuity at viewing distance is a Real Thing, and if you think "people can't notice the upscaling artifacts from 720p to 1080p" you are agreeing. Rendering density on a phone where peripheral viewing doesn't matter and you're primarily reading text is very different from playing a video game.
Bandai Namco did asset creation for MK8 as well. There isn't a gigantic team over there. EPD teams are like 10 people. When that group of people is ready to go from "brainstorming" to "let's make a game" they either hire external companies, or draw from EPD's pool of unfixed staff, who float from team to team as needed.
