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I don’t know what you’re talking about.it isn't new information, it's just the things I wasn't cognizant of
of course this is going to be a step down, that's the reality of the silicon
I don’t know what you’re talking about.it isn't new information, it's just the things I wasn't cognizant of
of course this is going to be a step down, that's the reality of the silicon
Rephrase and elaborate, because I'm going to play dumb and read this as "will Drake support USB-C"Asking the real question here.
Do we expect Nintendo to implant the USBC standard right with drake?
ooh I know this oneRephrase and elaborate, because I'm going to play dumb and read this as "will Drake support USB-C"
to which I'll answer "Yes, because it's already on Switch"
USB C isn't a spec. it's a port shapeooh I know this one
the switch actually breaks spec in a few ways, iirc in its power delivery specifically. it's why do many aftermarket docks can brick it
yes, 7W is just the APU power limit. steam deck's build-in TDP controls the APU directly. can go as low as 3W to 15W
Should be noted that while the APU would draw 15W at max, the whole device is like 27-29W.For the Steam Deck, that 7W is in PC speak, right? My understanding is that in PC terms, the power limit that's adjustable in BIOS is CPU + iGPU, but doesn't include RAM. But I might be wrong there?
Laughing my ass off @ people who unironically think nintendo would ship a 2.5 h runtime switch after releasing the OLED and v2 models (that both average out 4-5 hours on intensive 3d games).
FWIW based on this list there are at least a handful of Switch games that dip under 2 hours on the original model at max brightness. The list only has ~450 games, though.
There's no changing that launch models will always have a harder time matching some things later models of a previous generation can manage.
Laughing my ass off @ people who unironically think sony would ship a large playstation after releasing a PS3 Slim and PS3 Super Slim.
2.5h of BotW2 is enough for a lot of people, as we've seen by Erista Switch.
I’m sorry for quoting all of you, but I think we need to remember a bit and go back down memory lane. The original switch was on a very inefficient process that caused leakage on the regular. A used CPU architecture that was very inefficient at doing its job. It used less efficient ram. It used a less efficient screen. And it had less efficient storage. Since 2015/16/17, technology has evolved far enough to where ypu can have a device that doesn’t fit in the very extreme 2.5 hour battery life. You have to literally go out of your way to have such a horrible battery life. When I said that I expect them to release a model with a worse battery life, I meant a worse battery life than the V2 switch that has 4.5 hours at minimum well, maximum. Not that it’ll actually be like the V1 with 2.5 hours.it's just sad
this thing sounds more and more like a downgrade
maybe I ought to wait until the V2 equivalent
Assuming the question's about the possibility of Nintendo's new hardware being compliant with USB-C and USB-PD specifications, I don't have high hopes for that to happen before autumn 2024.Do we expect Nintendo to implant the USBC standard right with drake?
that's why I didn't say USB C spec. I inferred what the other person meant. do you have any better idea of what "(implement) the USBC standard right" could be referring to?USB C isn't a spec. it's a port shape
Switch doesn't support USB-PD, which is its own spec from USB3
Nintendo could make a whole series of games about the hunger in this thread. I wonder what a good title would be..Sometimes this thread can get pretty testy. It’s the hunger getting to us
I can’t imagine a new-feature revision that is digital only. Nintendo will release a digital only version of the switch only as a way to make a super cut down cheap revision ala the “No backwards compat Wii”. And if they do do something like that they’re also guaranteeing the store will be available for some years after the devices release which is a net good for all switch owners.This is another dealbreaker for me, and it has nothing to do with my unhinged industrial design demands. I have 32 physicals, all first party, and I am not buying something that doesn't play them until Pikmin 4 comes out
Nintendo could make a whole series of games about the hunger in this thread. I wonder what a good title would be..
The original switch had poor battery runtime due to how inneficient the SoC was compared to the 2019 revision (which by today's ARM standards is already inefficient as well).FWIW based on this list there are at least a handful of Switch games that dip under 2 hours on the original model at max brightness. The list only has ~450 games, though.
Laughing my ass off @ people who unironically think sony would ship a large playstation after releasing a PS3 Slim and PS3 Super Slim.
Guess we need some Snickers then.Sometimes this thread can get pretty testy. It’s the hunger getting to us
It's much more likely all the direct references to Drake are just hidden from view. The only reason previous hardware leaked this way was because Nintendo never bothered trying to hide it, but Drake is different enough that it's already pretty likely it will get it's own firmware builds (probably from the same source code, though), so a bunch of it wouldn't appear in the public builds even if they weren't trying to hide it.I suspect that Horizon had to fork internally because of the substantially different hardware, and because of that fork, none of the Switch builds have Drake references. Same thing happened with 3DS, when it was forked to build the Switch version of Horizon. Many of the services are the same between the two OSes, but OS is not in anyway generic, and very much depends on the underlying layout of the CPUs.
It's probably in a different branch, whereas the current models likely differ only by build config and ifdefs, which as you said isn't really a strategy meant for hiding information and will give something away unless you're extremely rigorous about it.It's much more likely all the direct references to Drake are just hidden from view. The only reason previous hardware leaked this way was because Nintendo never bothered trying to hide it, but Drake is different enough that it's already pretty likely it will get it's own firmware builds (probably from the same source code, though), so a bunch of it wouldn't appear in the public builds even if they weren't trying to hide it.
I know nothing about this man, others may be too.Where are our Chinese friends @supmo
Etc. Have they seen this article
Oh it's no article, but a post.
they use them because the gpus are integrated with the cpus, similar to consoles. Nvidia doesn't have such chip outside of their Tegra/Jetson line and their Grace Hopper supercomputer chip. a separate cpu and gpu takes too much space to put into a handheldI noticed nowadays handheld PCs only use AMD or Intel Graphics
Maybe currently there aren't Nvidia chips suitable for this, even the ones already used on laptops? Or maybe some commercial restriction?
This DLSS-capable chip will be an unique thing and maybe an upper-hand even against expensive handheld PC models
Sometimes this thread can get pretty t̶e̶s̶t̶y̶ tasty. It’s the hunger getting to us
In addition to power/perf. Even with NVIDIA's MX series you're looking at an additional 7W+ minimum in power, which is too much for everything but behemoths like the Win Max 2. Also just the cost of the chips. IIRC the only time the MX range was cheap enough to use in a handheld was when Intel were bundling them, and the handheld companies were locked out from buying them.they use them because the gpus are integrated with the cpus, similar to consoles. Nvidia doesn't have such chip outside of their Tegra/Jetson line and their Grace Hopper supercomputer chip. a separate cpu and gpu takes too much space to put into a handheld
Wonder if @fwd-bwd has seen it?
I agreed. The recent "leak" (using the word loosely) from Moore's Law is Dead has been making rounds on Chinese social media (example 1, example 2). This particular post seems to be another rehash of it.Recent Chinese information may be from Moore’s Law is Dead.
Edit: Note this isn’t Mochizuki’s reporting. I wonder if he will have any articles or comments of his own as a follow up
Team 2024I'm litterally starting to think we really aren't getting new hardware for many years.
I'm litterally starting to think we really aren't getting new hardware for many years.
Team 2014
Edit: Note this isn’t Mochizuki’s reporting. I wonder if he will have any articles or comments of his own as a follow up
I'm totally fine with V1 battery life (3 hours minimum) to maximize power, while the inevitable revision 2 years after gets v2 battery life.they absolutely are
they're not going to let this thing be a downgrade in any sense
You want my expectations? You can't handle my expectations!No I mean what would expect perf wise in a way that you’d be comfortable with, and for the moment cast aside the specs and assume they are wrong.
What level of performance would you be comfortable with and expect
This thread right now:
For Switch titles, obviously, but for games optimised for Drake.they absolutely are
they're not going to let this thing be a downgrade in any sense
Nah everyone will just reset the clock and claims it's coming in April or May. It's the cycle! Copium 5000!
I don't think you understood the point of what I posted. Nothing is changing and yet it's getting a reaction, your posts included.Nah everyone will just reset the clock and claims it's coming in April or May. It's the cycle! Copium 5000!
Don't do this.
People hoping for 2022 never did so saying that 2023 wasn't just as possible. Nate's messaging has been fairly consistent that the window was looking like late 2022 or H1 2023. He might have said early 2023 a while back, not sure, but it's probably been a little hard to pin down.
Nothing's changed really. This is just possibly the news we've been waiting for for a while, while debating whether or not hypothetical dates were feasible. I'm looking forward to further localized commentary, because I'm sure this isn't the last we hear around this news drop.
I don't think you understood the point of what I posted. Nothing is changing and yet it's getting a reaction, your posts included.
Zelda getting a nebulous "1st half 2023" almost guaranteed that it would not release this FY. I think this hardware news just seals the deal there.Can't say I'm surprised, I always figured if we got new hardware it would be after the current FY is over. I also feel Zelda is coming this fiscal year and is not being held back to launch with Drake.