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Elder Scrolls 6 hype!Well, if the rumors are true (and they're starting to look like they're true), we might be able to play quite a few Microsoft + Bethesda first party titles on our Switch 2 consoles in the years ahead...
Xbox's strategy with exclusives seems to be that after 1-2 years their games will go to other consoles.
I thought it was both?Mind pointing me to these rumours? Last I say was a continued case by case basis.
Mind pointing me to these rumours? Last I say was a continued case by case basis.
Is this tweet related to that?Big rumor today of Microsoft planning a formal announcement in the next few months regarding a change in their multiplatform strategy.
A Discord leak from earlier in January that perfectly called Indian Jones being mostly a FPS with whip action and some third person elements, and also called Kojima making a movie with Sony, also said that Microsoft is going full blown multiplatform with all their games, and that they will allow third parties to make their own Xbox hardware. The Discord leak also said Microsoft would announce this change in strategy in February/March, which lines up perfectly with the other rumor from today.
Is this tweet related to that?
Big rumor today of Microsoft planning a formal announcement in the next few months regarding a change in their multiplatform strategy.
A Discord leak from earlier in January that perfectly called Indian Jones being mostly a FPS with whip action and some third person elements, and also called Kojima making a movie with Sony, also said that Microsoft is going full blown multiplatform with all their games, and that they will allow third parties to make their own Xbox hardware. The Discord leak also said Microsoft would announce this change in strategy in February/March, which lines up perfectly with the other rumor from today.
So yeah...there's a very legitimate chance we're playing the Oblivion remake, Fallout 3 remake, next ID game, Fable, Perfect Dark, etc, on our Switch 2.
I think the idea of them going "full" 3rd party is probably overblown, and it's closer to some titles will go multiplatform a bit after launch. Which makes sense, financially.Edit: Updated my post. Clicked send too early. In short I don’t buy the idea that they’re going multiplatform at all.
I think the idea of them going "full" 3rd party is probably overblown, and it's closer to some titles will go multiplatform a bit after launch. Which makes sense, financially.
Big rumor today of Microsoft planning a formal announcement in the next few months regarding a change in their multiplatform strategy.
A Discord leak from earlier in January that perfectly called Indian Jones being mostly a FPS with whip action and some third person elements, and also called Kojima making a movie with Sony, also said that Microsoft is going full blown multiplatform with all their games, and that they will allow third parties to make their own Xbox hardware. The Discord leak also said Microsoft would announce this change in strategy in February/March, which lines up perfectly with the other rumor from today.
So yeah...there's a very legitimate chance we're playing the Oblivion remake, Fallout 3 remake, next ID game, Fable, Perfect Dark, etc, on our Switch 2.
So, this next Xbox would be a system with a unified spec sheet and library, but with the production of it being licensed to other companies? Where have I heard that one before...
An Xbox branded pc. Like a Steam machineHow exactly is "3rd party hardware" supposed to work? If MS loses money per unit, I can't really imagine a 3rd party wanting in on that.
Honestly I've long thought MS should offer Nintendo a chance to take over the XBox division, and subsidizing any hardware loss on their side, but letting them sell the console and if they want to bring some older Nintendo titles to the system.
An Xbox branded pc. Like a Steam machine
My two thoughts:But who is subsidizing the loss in that case?
Like why would I buy a $550 "3rd party XBox" when Microsoft is selling a $450 one because they're eating a $100 loss/unit. I don't think the third party wants to lose money.
lol. People will just get used to playing them on those other platforms. Moreover, I doubt MS will want to risk losing all those new customers for a chance to force them to buy their console.^ It has been thrown around they are intent on doing some 4D chess - increasing their IP exposure by putting them on as many "platforms as possible", intentionally, and then making the sequels exclusive to their platform to try to get more players to pick up the xbox over the playstation in the future
I agree, but I wouldn't be surprised if "case by case basis" starts to mean "pretty much everything." When you've got Starfield and Hi-Fi Rush on your hands, two games that would print money on other hardware, at a time when your own hardware is failing, turning those games around while you figure out how to get out of this mess next gen starts to sound appealing.Which isn’t that different from what they’re doing now. There probably just trying to lock in the scope a bit better, and it’s important given just how many games they’ve scooped up with ABK.
Well, MS loses money because they're subsidizing the hardware sales and offering a premium, and standardized product. By allowing 3rd parties to make Xboxes - especially if they allow it to be done with PC hardware instead of just the AMD APU - you open up the possibility of companies making money by offering either extra shitty, or ultra-premium versions.How exactly is "3rd party hardware" supposed to work? If MS loses money per unit, I can't really imagine a 3rd party wanting in on that.
In this scenario, the cheaply made Xboxes would just damage the brand and not sure if Micrsoft would want that.I agree, but I wouldn't be surprised if "case by case basis" starts to mean "pretty much everything." When you've got Starfield and Hi-Fi Rush on your hands, two games that would print money on other hardware, at a time when your own hardware is failing, turning those games around while you figure out how to get out of this mess next gen starts to sound appealing.
Well, MS loses money because they're subsidizing the hardware sales and offering a premium, and standardized product. By allowing 3rd parties to make Xboxes - especially if they allow it to be done with PC hardware instead of just the AMD APU - you open up the possibility of companies making money by offering either extra shitty, or ultra-premium versions.
You'd get products with piss-poor base storage. Poor build quality. Bargain basement RAM. Huge cases full of random PC parts.
You'd get products with ultra premium hardwood shells, and whisper-quiet solid-state cooling, with a built in controller charger, and out-of-the-box integration with proprietary sound systems.
And some of these companies would fail, and some companies might make one batch of Xboxen, then be out of the game. And if MS decides that there aren't enough Xboxen in the wild, they'll make profit sharing and parts subsidy arrangements with a couple manufacturers, with contracts that allow them to tighten the leash over time.
This is how it works with graphics cards already, and I'm not certain it's super ethical. I'm also not sure it will work for a console, whose whole appeal is "it's not a PC, I don't have to fuck with it." But that's the theory of the case.
With T329 Nintendo won the AI console wars. Both the PS5 and Xbox Series X are no match in regards to the AI capabilities this chip has. Those Ampere Tensor cores pack a punch. Not too sure about beating the PS5 Pro if has a XDNA NPU unit but the T239 should beat the 2020 consoles.Getting off of my lurkers' cave for the first time to say I'm excited for the possibility of this device having 16GB of RAM. While 12 would likely be enough for a handheld/hybrid until the end of the decade and beyond, 16 would not only give it parity with the big 4K TV consoles (making ports and multiplat releases of memory-hungry current gen games easier), but would also allow for OS features such as longer recording times and real time streaming, with neither the need of additional hardware nor significantly impacting the available memory for games.
Plus we all know how Nintendo always manages to work wonderfully with their hardware. I really can't imagine what they'll be able to achieve with all that memory alongside all the other improvements we expect. If they play their cards right, the next Switch can last even longer than the current one, especially since diminishing returns have caught up to the big TV-only consoles, as many here have said before.
With UE5 responding nicely to hardware ray tracing and DLSS upscaling, and RT cores and tensor cores being part of the T239, it seems like Nintendo could play the long game and focus on hardware longevity. With the current Switch soon entering its 8th year on the market with no announcement of a successor, I feel like it's reasonable to expect the successor to have a 10+ year life cycle as Nintendo's main system.
So Xbox goes full 3DO? Succes is granted!and that they will allow third parties to make their own Xbox hardware.
Go the other way. Microsoft does the S version - the minimum spec, and other companies do higher spec versions with higher end CPUs and video cards.My two thoughts:
1. they expect customers to pay more just because BRAND, or
2. their Xboxes will not be up to the same quality standard as the Microsoft version. Like picture the Switch Pro Controller vs a PowerA.
Or maybe something like the Steam Machine?So Xbox goes full 3DO?
ooooooooh that's an interesting ideaGo the other way. Microsoft does the S version - the minimum spec, and other companies do higher spec versions with higher end CPUs and video cards.
Wouldn't it just be a pc at that point, where it's up to the end user to tweak the settings menu to their spec?Go the other way. Microsoft does the S version - the minimum spec, and other companies do higher spec versions with higher end CPUs and video cards.
This seems unrealistic. That means its on the devs for creating console ports and option settings for potentially dozens of different configurations. At that point, you're making a 2nd PC port, and the Xbox isn't a PC, as close as they do get to modern Windows.Go the other way. Microsoft does the S version - the minimum spec, and other companies do higher spec versions with higher end CPUs and video cards.
Who said anything about subsidizing? These are just branded pcs. MS sets a minimum spec, after that, it's manufacturers' ball. If the min spec allows for a handheld, then there will be an Xbox PC handheld.But who is subsidizing the loss in that case?
Like why would I buy a $550 "3rd party XBox" when Microsoft is selling a $450 one because they're eating a $100 loss/unit. I don't think the third party wants to lose money.
How is that different from the minimum spec of every pc game?Who said anything about subsidizing? These are just branded pcs. MS sets a minimum spec, after that, it's manufacturers' ball. If the min spec allows for a handheld, then there will be an Xbox PC handheld.
Rare games will sell great I assume.which specific rumors ? Sorry I've been out of the loop. Only heard of Hi fi Rush coming to Switch
Xbox's strategy with exclusives seems to be that after 1-2 years their games will go to other consoles.
That's my point, I think they're just gonna do a very fancy version of a PC. As long as the spec hits minimum spec, maybe a specific set of hardware or whatever, then their games will have around the same performance levels for everyone. After that will be to users'/vendors' tasteHow is that different from the minimum spec of every pc game?
Edit: apart from the branding, they can have "approved for Xbox" on the box.
I am not seeing Nintendo porting their IPs to PC. Minus now that they're focused on expanding their IPs to movies and theme parks.Sony is releasing first party PC games after 1-2 years.
Microsoft (allegedly) will start releasing first party multiplatform games after 1-2 years and PC versions day 1.
Nintendo?
I wouldn't rule out a Nintendo being pressured to do "something" by shareholders/fans if the above two situations make them big money and do not devalue their hardware business. Maybe around the time Switch 3 talk picks up. My guess is Nintendo releasing some "choice" games on PC. Like Fire emblem, Clubhouse games, Advance Wars, and Pikmin. Way less of a chance but Animal Crossing, Splatoon, and pokemon would also be great candidates. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby are all staying exclusive forever.
Extraordinary opinions requires extraordinary reasons. Elaborate.opinion: the xbox clones will destroy gaming
you've got part of this supremely backwards imoWay less of a chance but Animal Crossing, Splatoon, and pokemon would also be great candidates. Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby are all staying exclusive forever.
in my silly little head: xbox already has amassed industry dominating studio acquisitions, is growing the anti-competitive game pass, and is now allegedly going to flood the market with a licensed hardware platformExtraordinary opinions requires extraordinary reasons. Elaborate.
The current market is proof that the subscription model is hard to maintain and that GamePass is not taking over (as in it's not growing that much actually). I'm profoundly anti GamePass, but I don't think Nintendo is at risk.in my silly little head: xbox already has amassed industry dominating studio acquisitions, is growing the anti-competitive game pass, and is now allegedly going to flood the market with a licensed hardware platform
if this is actually happening I'd bet we're about five years away from sie going under and nintendo shifting away from video games
5 years wowin my silly little head: xbox already has amassed industry dominating studio acquisitions, is growing the anti-competitive game pass, and is now allegedly going to flood the market with a licensed hardware platform
if this is actually happening I'd bet we're about five years away from sie going under and nintendo shifting away from video games
Your scenario already happened. It's called a Windows PCin my silly little head: xbox already has amassed industry dominating studio acquisitions, is growing the anti-competitive game pass, and is now allegedly going to flood the market with a licensed hardware platform
if this is actually happening I'd bet we're about five years away from sie going under and nintendo shifting away from video games
It will be like in the 80s: The gaming economy will crash, but Nintendo will continue to release high quality games.in my silly little head: xbox already has amassed industry dominating studio acquisitions, is growing the anti-competitive game pass, and is now allegedly going to flood the market with a licensed hardware platform
if this is actually happening I'd bet we're about five years away from sie going under and nintendo shifting away from video games
Lin my silly little head: xbox already has amassed industry dominating studio acquisitions, is growing the anti-competitive game pass, and is now allegedly going to flood the market with a licensed hardware platform
if this is actually happening I'd bet we're about five years away from sie going under and nintendo shifting away from video games