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fguzramm said:
Do you guys think $400 is a good price for the console assuming the specs rumors are true? I fell like the switch price (300) vs the Xbox or PS5 (500) was more justifiable since the switch is very old hardware. But if these rumors are true....the new console would still be like 10 years old in comparison to the PS5 and XSX .....and only 100 dollars less?
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What games used DLSS and raytracing 10 years ago? And in a portable, thin as a notepad, system aiming for around 3 hours of battery life?
 
fguzramm said:
Do you guys think $400 is a good price for the console assuming the specs rumors are true? I fell like the switch price (300) vs the Xbox or PS5 (500) was more justifiable since the switch is very old hardware. But if these rumors are true....the new console would still be like 10 years old in comparison to the PS5 and XSX .....and only 100 dollars less?
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It’s not a “10 year old console”. It’s a hybrid system. What you expect Nintendo can do with a mobile system and cost a reasonable price?
 
TechnicalTip6578 said:
they need to make the console as cheap as possible, both when it comes to sale (which is obviously 400 bucks) & the specs (the cheapest storage & ram possible) that's the thing you guys fail to understand
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I’m gonna say it’s actually probably cheaper for them to source 128GB storage components than 64 due to smartphone-related abundance? Do you understand supply and demand? Because demand (and therefore supply) of 64 GB memory components is near zero so it’d be more expensive for Nintendo to source them

don’t condescend me with “you fail to understand“
 
fguzramm said:
But if these rumors are true....the new console would still be like 10 years old in comparison to the PS5 and XSX .....and only 100 dollars less?
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It would be worth catching up with the leaked specs mentioned in the OP because the Ampere architecture used in T239 is 3 years old and is in the Geforce 30 series of GPUs and the speculated ARM Cortex A78 is also 3 years old. When the Switch launched it was using a 2 year old Tegra SoC.

I literally don't understand why any weight is given to this one article that amounts to 'the market expects'. No sources or data.
In addition, since the Switch has never had a major hardware upgrade since its launch, the market expects that Nintendo will likely launch the new generation in the second half of this year, and some of the hardware specifications will also be improved, including the processor will be equipped with NVIDIA's T239 chip, 8GB of RAM and 64GB of storage, battery life will also be greatly improved, and the screen refresh rate will be increased to 120Hz. The screen refresh rate has been increased to 120Hz.
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Serif said:
It would be worth catching up with the leaked specs mentioned in the OP because the Ampere architecture used in T239 is 3 years old and is in the Geforce 30 series of GPUs and the speculated ARM Cortex A78 is also 3 years old. When the Switch launched it was using a 2 year old Tegra SoC.

I literally don't understand why any weight is given to this one article that amounts to 'the market expects'. No sources or data.
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"The market expects" thing kills me.

We literally have a threadfull of evidence that the market is not expecting that lol
 
TechnicalTip6578 said:
anyways i guess we're not in agreement because "meh nintendo would never do that!" despite the fact that they always pick the cheap options and they know how to handle these kinds of limitations
i don't really care anymore with what people say anyways, i'm on team 64gb storage, 8gb ram & 120hz screen and i'd gladly accept it
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It's odd that you expect them to go with cheap options and work around limitations but still anticipate a 120hz screen, which is not cheap, kills battery, and few games would run at that full refresh.
 
Because nintendo I expect the next nintendo switch to go from ps1 era graphics to at least ps vita level graphics, It's nintendo so you never know, they could still sell it at 400$ to get a huge margin plus 32gb of storage and use proprietary memory cards like the ps vita because nintendo. They've worked with limitations before so they'll probably do it again because nintendo. No BC too because nintendo so you never know.
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TechnicalTip6578 said:
you guys are worrying too much to be honest, 64gb of storage & 8gb ram are servicable enough
third parties will find a way to make their games work there, otherwise they'll go with the cloud route instead which isn't really a bad thing honestly
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Cloud gaming sucks balls even on my 600mbit internet, it’s still bad.
 
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Dark Cloud said:
the market expects us to love Subway

Wait…maybe the market does know something!
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That’s why there are at least 4 Subways within a 5 mins walk of you at any given time. The market expects you to want it!

It’s definitely that and not questionable franchising practices
 
TechnicalTip6578 said:
well considering how greedy nintendo is, they'd most likely choose to sell it for 400 instead
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This you?

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Dark Cloud said:
Cloud is garbage so yeah it’s not a good thing honestly
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On my personal experience GeForce Now works amazingly well. It's hard to notice the extra latency while using an Xbox controller.

That said, if I'm going to pay $400 for a Switch 2, then I want to run all games natively. Otherwise, I already have other devices that can give me cloud gaming.
 
This is a new era of Nintendo

First system without Iwata 100% involvement.

So we can expect anything.

In less than 6 months we will probably have a better picture of Switch 2 capabilities and third party SW support.
 
Is there any chance of Nintendo somehow making this device cellular? Is there any easy way to do this? Team up with a few carriers to make a cellular model similar to the iPad?
 
Serif said:
It's odd that you expect them to go with cheap options and work around limitations but still anticipate a 120hz screen, which is not cheap, kills battery, and few games would run at that full refresh.
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You’re putting way more thought into it than they are.
 
Kise Ryota said:
On my personal experience GeForce Now works amazingly well. It's hard to notice the extra latency while using an Xbox controller.

That said, if I'm going to pay $400 for a Switch 2, then I want to run all games natively. Otherwise, I already have other devices that can give me cloud gaming.
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NGL, when the Switch was announced to have games as cloud versions, my first reaction was befuddlement just because a handheld system requiring internet to play a Single player game is moronic.

Yes, the Switch usually wouldn't be able to play these games otherwise, but it also means you're just unable to play games like Kingdom Hearts reliably or portably. If Switch 2 still has cloud games as requirement for some, imma be pissed.
 
Serif said:
I personally don't even consider those 'because Nintendo' (ick) specs. 32 GB was enough to hold BotW and some smaller titles and SD cards are ubiquitous so I never found it to be an issue. 4 GB of RAM is twice the Wii U, ~8 times the Xbox 360 and ~16 times the PS3 (imperfect comparison due to RAM speeds and types but it's still more). They could have crammed more of both into the Switch but I find it well balanced to hit that $300 price point.

Since they expanded storage to 64 GB on the OLED model anyway I'd expect at least 128 GB. People are going to look at the $400 price tag and have a different set of expectations.
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Yeah and they doubled the RAM capacity and kept the same size storage when they were supporting a failed home console and this was their last resort. The current Nintendo is one that broke records in software sales, has the third best selling platform of all time, and has a successful recurring revenue subscription service. Not to mention they're working with the company leading the industry in graphics and AI technologies. Still thinking it's going to end up being 12 GB RAM with 256 GB of storage.
 
Herb Alpert said:
Pessimistic takes always gain more traction, don't they ?
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Bad takes sell newspapers, and it seems they sell "Yeah!"s to other users that disagree with them. It's a weird thing to grind NGL.
fguzramm said:
oh I forgot about dlss!!... is it confirmed though?....the speculation is killing me!!! XD I just want Nintendo to announce the damn thing
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Literally nothing is confirmed until Nintendo actually starts talking about something, which they haven't.

It's a safe bet at this point considering general reports and even basic speculation, but nothing is "confirmed" until Nintendo's toaster is officially revealed.
 
SoldierDelta said:
Bad takes sell newspapers, and it seems they sell "Yeah!"s to other users that disagree with them. It's a weird thing to grind NGL.

Literally nothing is confirmed until Nintendo actually starts talking about something, which they haven't.

It's a safe bet at this point considering general reports and even basic speculation, but nothing is "confirmed" until Nintendo's toaster is officially revealed.
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And even then they could still change things (like the circle pads of the Wii U.
 
Switch 2 speculation won't end until we get die shots of the system and an in-depth postmortem on why Nintendo went with 8GB instead of 12GB of RAM because they decided Cloud gaming would serve as sufficient third-party support on their $400 console.
 
tbh I feel like $400 is a bit low and I could see them going with $450

but also I’m Canadian so “four hundred dollars” does not sound like a huge price to me compared to what other consoles cost here right now (current Switch is 400, OLED is 450, Series X is 600 and PS5 is 650)
 
Serif said:
Switch 2 speculation won't end until we get die shots of the system and an in-depth postmortem on why Nintendo went with 8GB instead of 12GB of RAM because they decided Cloud gaming would serve as sufficient third-party support on their $400 console.
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No joke, I'd be more than willing to play Cloud games on a Switch 2 if it actually had a good WiFi and internet chip in it. One of the most outdated things on Switch (even more outdated than the graphics) is the internet speeds. It's pulling numbers my PS3 did on 2009 WiFi.
 
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Yeah, unless Nintendo does a tech deep dive (pretty unlikely) this thread specifically will still be in chaos mode until some outlet like DF gets their hand on a preview unit and does some disassembling and testing. ^^
 
Cuzizkool said:
Is there any chance of Nintendo somehow making this device cellular? Is there any easy way to do this? Team up with a few carriers to make a cellular model similar to the iPad?
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No. Especially not after the Vita fiasco (nothing to do with the cellular part, but yeah)
 
Darknut85 said:
And even then they could still change things (like the circle pads of the Wii U.
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Very true, though that was over the course of around 18 months from reveal to release. Very different to the 4 months we'll get for the Switch 2.

Considering everyone, their mother and their pet dog that works in HR at Nintendo knows that the device will likely have a short release schedule, I doubt we'll have substantial changes from the original reveal.
 
fguzramm said:
Do you guys think $400 is a good price for the console assuming the specs rumors are true? I feel like the switch price (300) vs the Xbox or PS5 (500) was more justifiable since the switch is very old hardware. But if these rumors are true....the new console would still be like 10 years old in comparison to the PS5 and XSX .....and only 100 dollars less?
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Switch is near the top in class when it releases and this next Switch is likely to be the same. The PS4 and Xbox One was $400 when Switch released and even less during a sale so $100 difference will be an improvement.
 
Detective Chimp said:
The specs mentioned in that article are depressing lol. I hope they are wrong.
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There's zero reason to give more weight to those specs than the info from insiders shared in this thread. There are no sources or data given, just speculation.
 
TechnicalTip6578 said:
they need to make the console as cheap as possible, both when it comes to sale (which is obviously 400 bucks) & the specs (the cheapest storage & ram possible) that's the thing you guys fail to understand
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But they didn't even do that last time with the original Switch. Compared the latest iPhone at the time, which like the Switch also used an ARM SoC on a closed-sourced platform, the Switch featured 4 GB of RAM compared to iPhone 7 Plus's 3 GB and they both had the same storage capacity.
 
RedSpring said:
Switch is near the top in class when it releases and this next Switch is likely to be the same. The PS4 and Xbox One was $400 when Switch released and even less during a sale so $100 difference will be an improvement.
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There is a perk in being the cheapest console that uses physical games, assuming the device will be 400 dollars. While the Series S would be cheaper, a lot of people won't see the benefits of it in comparison to the Switch which will run the same games at (maybe) the same resolution and be portable.

Worth the extra 100 bucks imo.
 
I really hope Nintendo doesn’t take the cheap route this time. They’re making more money than ever. Surely they can spare a few extra thousand or million dollars to give their fans the best experience possible on Switch 2, right?
 
Dark Cloud said:
It’ll be a great day when this thing is revealed. It’ll be a huge relief and we can talk more in facts of the system.
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it's gonna suck with all the fake-ass "oh wow, Nintendo did that!? they're finally learning!" takes

Jake said:
I really hope Nintendo doesn’t take the cheap route this time. They’re making more money than ever. Surely they can spare a few extra thousand or million dollars to give their fans the best experience possible on Switch 2, right?
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that's the weird thing about all of this. the expected chipset isn't the cheapest thing they could go with. before the leak, we were expecting a chip that would be even cheaper per unit than the T239. and they can't skimp on ram because that would throw all the work they did for the T239 into the bin
 
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