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TechnicalTip6578 said:
random prediction but what if we don't have a feb direct next year and instead have a switch 2 reveal + presentation instead?
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is a possibility, i could see one of this two things happening next year, one: Nintendo will do a presentation to reveal Switch sucessor in february or they will do the first Nintendo Direct of the year in february as usual, followed by a Nintendo Switch sucessor focused presentation late february/early march, in a way february Direct in early february and end the month with a Switch sucessor presentation, any of this situations could happen
 
You are welcome. I just bought a new switch oled.

As I said earlier, my 2019 v2 switch just broke yesterday out of nowhere. I tought it was only the screen, but it took my right joycon with it.

However, every single time I buy a New console to replace the broken one, a new version or new something something is announced .

So congrats to everyone. The time is now. New switch coming in the next 4 months.
 
Giancarlo said:
is a possibility, i could see one of this two things happening next year, one: Nintendo will do a presentation to reveal Switch sucessor in february or they will do the first Nintendo Direct of the year in february as usual, followed by a Nintendo Switch sucessor focused presentation late february/early march, in a way february Direct in early february and end the month with a Switch sucessor presentation, any of this situations could happen
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I feel like the former (Feb Switch Successor reveal) is more likely because the latter kinda sets up the games in the Feb direct to fail, at least from my perspective. If those games are lower-risk projects, I kinda get it, but it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

However, small counterpoint to bring up, is if that later Nintendo Switch 2 reveal shows those games as being cross-gen with enhanced graphics. Not a perfect work around, but it's something ig.
 
I dont care what they do (direct, live presentation, twitter direct ) just reveal the damn thing Nintendo we are all ready.
 
SoldierDelta said:
I feel like the former (Feb Switch Successor reveal) is more likely because the latter kinda sets up the games in the Feb direct to fail, at least from my perspective. If those games are lower-risk projects, I kinda get it, but it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

However, small counterpoint to bring up, is if that later Nintendo Switch 2 reveal shows those games as being cross-gen with enhanced graphics. Not a perfect work around, but it's something ig.
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i also considered the possibilty, if Switch sucessor is anounced in february, Nintendo could show, look Paper Mario the Thousand Years Door remake release in april and we planing to update/patch the game, to feature some of Switch sucessor features such as Ray-Tracing(show the cinematic before the Hooktail battle with Ray-Tracing enabled)
 
Giancarlo said:
i also considered the possibilty, if Switch sucessor is anounced in february, Nintendo could show, look Paper Mario the Thousand Years Door remake release in april and we planing to update/patch the game, to feature some of Switch sucessor features such as Ray-Tracing(show the cinematic before the Hooktail battle with Ray-Tracing enabled)
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Showing the Thousand Year Door Remake with Ray-tracing in a Switch Presentation showcase would be one of the most unhinged reveals Nintendo would ever do. Arlo would literally explode on-stream.

This is pure theorycraft though. Idk how much Nintendo is willing to go all-in on RT with their games, including for games that are going to be cross-gen.
 
SoldierDelta said:
Showing the Thousand Year Door Remake with Ray-tracing in a Switch Presentation showcase would be one of the most unhinged reveals Nintendo would ever do. Arlo would literally explode on-stream.

This is pure theorycraft though. Idk how much Nintendo is willing to go all-in on RT with their games, including for games that are going to be cross-gen.
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I would like that to come true just to see Arlo go through the roof!
 
SoldierDelta said:
Showing the Thousand Year Door Remake with Ray-tracing in a Switch Presentation showcase would be one of the most unhinged reveals Nintendo would ever do. Arlo would literally explode on-stream.

This is pure theorycraft though. Idk how much Nintendo is willing to go all-in on RT with their games, including for games that are going to be cross-gen.
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I don't know if it would benefit the type of game that much. Fixed perspectives, predictable environments. It's the type of game where devs can really tailor every scene, using traditional methods
 
SoldierDelta said:
Showing the Thousand Year Door Remake with Ray-tracing in a Switch Presentation showcase would be one of the most unhinged reveals Nintendo would ever do. Arlo would literally explode on-stream.

This is pure theorycraft though. Idk how much Nintendo is willing to go all-in on RT with their games, including for games that are going to be cross-gen.
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will nintendo throw rt on just any of their games especially a remake of a gamecube game, I think they might save it for thier big games. also ttyd is more of a 2.5d game I dont think it really needs rt
 
TechnicalTip6578 said:
random prediction but what if we don't have a feb direct next year and instead have a switch 2 reveal + presentation instead?
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Giancarlo said:
is a possibility, i could see one of this two things happening next year, one: Nintendo will do a presentation to reveal Switch sucessor in february or they will do the first Nintendo Direct of the year in february as usual, followed by a Nintendo Switch sucessor focused presentation late february/early march, in a way february Direct in early february and end the month with a Switch sucessor presentation, any of this situations could happen
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SoldierDelta said:
I feel like the former (Feb Switch Successor reveal) is more likely because the latter kinda sets up the games in the Feb direct to fail, at least from my perspective. If those games are lower-risk projects, I kinda get it, but it just doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
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I think a Switch 2 reveal in March is more likely. We still have quite a few unannounced Switch 1 games that have been long rumored, enough to decently fill a February Direct without revealing the Switch 2. Plus we still need dates for TTYD & LM2.
 
Neoxon said:
I think a Switch 2 reveal in March is more likely. We still have quite a few unannounced Switch 1 games that have been long rumored, enough to decently fill a February Direct without revealing the Switch 2. Plus we still need dates for TTYD & LM2.
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Reveal in March and release in May is what I am literally betting quite a bit of money on. Not to say Ill lose any if it doesn't but optimal investing strategy-wise. In the tech investing circle, We are all convinced of a May launch but is still falls under speculation without hard proof. Investor win rate on calling product launches is like 65% lol
 
Shareholder Chad said:
Reveal in March and release in May is what I am literally betting quite a bit of money on. Not to say Ill lose any if it doesn't but optimal investing strategy-wise. In the tech investing circle, We are all convinced of a May launch but is still falls under speculation without hard proof. Investor win rate on calling product launches is like 65% lol
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Nah, May is too soon & wouldn’t give the Switch 2 a long enough marketing cycle to hype it up. I was thinking March reveal & September release, lining up with most of the reputable reports saying H2 2024 for the Switch 2’s launch.
 
Hermii said:
I don't know if it would benefit the type of game that much. Fixed perspectives, predictable environments. It's the type of game where devs can really tailor every scene, using traditional methods
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lemonfresh said:
will nintendo throw rt on just any of their games especially a remake of a gamecube game, I think they might save it for thier big games. also ttyd is more of a 2.5d game I dont think it really needs rt
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You may be right, especially considering the kind of game that TTYD is. I do think a lot of Nintendo games don't need RT at all, but I am curious about what kind of games would benefit from it/be able to run with RT in the first place.
 
February name reveal + single photo of the system
March presentation of the console + game trailers (lines up with march gamescom talk)
September release
 
Νεφέλωμα said:
February name reveal + single photo of the system
March presentation of the console + game trailers (lines up with march gamescom talk)
September release
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I think they’ll do the first things you mentioned in March. I’m a firm believer that we’re getting one last Switch 1-focused general Direct in February, otherwise they would’ve shown the Genealogy remake as well as MP2 & 3 in September.
 
Shareholder Chad said:
Reveal in March and release in May is what I am literally betting quite a bit of money on. Not to say Ill lose any if it doesn't but optimal investing strategy-wise. In the tech investing circle, We are all convinced of a May launch but is still falls under speculation without hard proof. Investor win rate on calling product launches is like 65% lol
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March Reveal to May release is way too short, that's less than 3 months.
The only way this thing comes out in May is if they reveal it in January and have a full presentation in March.
If they don't reveal it in January then it's absolutely not releasing in H1.
 
Shareholder Chad said:
Reveal in March and release in May is what I am literally betting quite a bit of money on. Not to say Ill lose any if it doesn't but optimal investing strategy-wise. In the tech investing circle, We are all convinced of a May launch but is still falls under speculation without hard proof. Investor win rate on calling product launches is like 65% lol
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Please don’t invest like this.
 
Capcom reconfirms title that will sell millions by end of March.


How curious

Being so fr rn, I have no idea why it would still be unannounced unless it depends on unrevealed hardware.

Before someone says it's too late to reveal for a March launch, their explicit, public plan is to have a short reveal to release. Next week? January? Who knows.
 
Concernt said:
Capcom reconfirms title that will sell millions by end of March.


How curious

Being so fr rn, I have no idea why it would still be unannounced unless it depends on unrevealed hardware.
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I’m pretty sure the millions thing was editorialized, but they did mention that it was a major release. And at least as of last year, Mega Man is considered a major franchise for Capcom.

In short, it’s most likely for Mega Man Match.
 
Neoxon said:
I’m pretty sure the millions thing was editorialized, but they did mention that it was a major release. And at least as of last year, Mega Man is considered a major franchise for Capcom.

In short, it’s most likely for Mega Man Match.
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How is that, of all things, most likely?

If it were that, they don't exactly have incentive to... not announce it this close to launch, unless it's dependent on something else.
 
Concernt said:
Capcom reconfirms title that will sell millions by end of March.


How curious

Being so fr rn, I have no idea why it would still be unannounced unless it depends on unrevealed hardware.

Before someone says it's too late to reveal for a March launch, their explicit, public plan is to have a short reveal to release. Next week? January? Who knows.
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Even if it was for a new hardware (which I don't think its releasing before March), matching it with a reveal makes no sense if its release before the end of the fiscal year.

Regarding that title, I think people are getting their expectations really high for that game. I would temper expectations.
 
Teal'c said:
I don't know if he's reliable or yet another glory seeker.





Nintendo Super Play: same concept (hybrid), no dock, buttons like Super Famicom, same display size but reduced weight.
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false, how do you do a hybrid console without a way to change it playable modes?
 
Teal'c said:
I don't know if he's reliable or yet another glory seeker.





Nintendo Super Play: same concept (hybrid), no dock, buttons like Super Famicom, same display size but reduced weight.
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I don't think any of that is too out of the ordinary except the lack of dock.

Unfortunately that part is almost certainly false, making the rest doubtful.
 
Yavga said:
Dual screen gaming started and ended with Nintendo being the sole company utilising it (?)

Still... I wouldn't call it dead forever, only recently I see a lot of development being done around dual screen laptops and phones, now a handheld again as well. I don't think they'll really take off but eh.

If Nintendo would go the route of a dual screen again it could add a distinction to future third and first party games that could nudge customers to that specific version.

The DS was a great success (not necessarily because of the dual screen) but I don't see a reason why they wouldn't do it again and make their games more unique again, personally I thought they struck gold with it.

The only big reason against a dual screen imo would be that it becomes more work creating a layer for single screen docked gameplay vs handheld dual screen gameplay.
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As long as Nintendo continues their hybrid approach to platforms, dual screens won’t see the light of day imo.

As you mentioned, added complexity, development costs for teams, plus there’s the added costs and complexity for the system itself. As a product of its time, the DS, and 3DS were great systems. But I feel in this day and age, that time has come and gone.

I could be wrong, but outside of maybe a DS/3DS classic down the road for those who want to revisit those games, it’ll be something niche.

But that is also why I think given the form factor of the Switch, you can already put DS/3DS games on it by simply turning the system 90 degrees to be vertical, and reconnect the joy cons via an adapter.

Nintendo already makes peripherals for the Switch, so it wouldn’t be outside the realm of possibility to make a vertical adapter for DS/3DS games. But truth be told, those kind of adapters exist currently for fans of vertical Shmups.

That would be my personal take. That does not answer your question of the future for Nintendo, but at least in terms of revisiting dual screen gaming in genera, it’s already possible.
 
Shareholder Chad said:
Reveal in March and release in May is what I am literally betting quite a bit of money on. Not to say Ill lose any if it doesn't but optimal investing strategy-wise. In the tech investing circle, We are all convinced of a May launch but is still falls under speculation without hard proof. Investor win rate on calling product launches is like 65% lol
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Don’t think a May release is likely at all IMO. Most likely a reveal early in the year with a September/October release
 
Shoulder said:
As long as Nintendo continues their hybrid approach to platforms, dual screens won’t see the light of day imo.

As you mentioned, added complexity, development costs for teams, plus there’s the added costs and complexity for the system itself. As a product of its time, the DS, and 3DS were great systems. But I feel in this day and age, that time has come and gone.

I could be wrong, but outside of maybe a DS/3DS classic down the road for those who want to revisit those games, it’ll be something niche.

But that is also why I think given the form factor of the Switch, you can already put DS/3DS games on it by simply turning the system 90 degrees to be vertical, and reconnect the joy cons via an adapter.

Nintendo already makes peripherals for the Switch, so it wouldn’t be outside the realm of possibility to make a vertical adapter for DS/3DS games. But truth be told, those kind of adapters exist currently for fans of vertical Shmups.

That would be my personal take. That does not answer your question of the future for Nintendo, but at least in terms of revisiting dual screen gaming in genera, it’s already possible.
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Don't even need an adapter. While I don't ever expect 3DS to come to NSO, instead opting for remasters and remakes, DS NSO makes a lot of sense. DS on Wii U already had multiple screen configurations outside of top on the TV, bottom on the GamePad, and I completed four or five games like that quite comfortably.

Nintendo Switch has MORE than enough resolution for a 2X scale render of both screens to be stacked on top of each other in the horizontal format. Default to this stacked view, and give users options to play it vertical for larger viewports, side by side, touch screen focus or top screen focus.
 
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I don’t think they will abandon the hybrid approach for the next system but if they did that would be a huge disappointment for me.
 
Bobo said:
I don’t think they will abandon the hybrid approach for the next system but if they did that would be a huge disappointment for me.
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T239 doesn't really make sense outside of a hybrid, so I doubt it wouldn't be.
 
just playing devil's advocate you could have a dockless Switch still be a Switch, all that's needed is a cable going into the device to switch to TV mode and power connector (cumbersome i know). some sort of improved in-built stand could be the answer, especially if the system is larger. same goes for usb ports you could have a couple of extra type-c on the device.
 
The dock is what makes the "hybrid" part of the system effortless and easy to understand. Complicating the setup for TV mode would be extremely detrimental to the brand and public perception.
 
Concernt said:
The dock is what makes the "hybrid" part of the system effortless and easy to understand. Complicating the setup for TV mode would be extremely detrimental to the brand and public perception.
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yes it's extremely unlikely. but it's within the realms of possibility that a dockless Switch could be designed without making the connections to enable TV mode overly complicated. not saying I have the design answer just that it could be possible, however unlikely. is this a good idea? probably not, the dock looks streamlined and a selling point providing whole aesthetic of it being a home handheld hybrid.
 
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Νεφέλωμα said:
Gaming is trending towards hybrid concepts and platforms instead of generations (which still exist of course) by influence of mobile technology. Smartphones have been popular for "only" 10 years, so it's no surprise other branches of computing are still feeling its influence. Every company is choosing some form of hybrid gaming, cause people want to play on the go, or at least have the option. And hardware developed for mobile is more efficient. Nintendo chose the pure hardware route of making a portable easy to connect to a TV. Xbox is choosing the cloud to make your phone, laptop and/or PC your everything console. Apple, wanting to invest into games, is using their tight ecosystem of computers and phones to make a platform of hardware that plays the same games. And Sony is testing the waters with the PSPortal, and no doubt they are experimenting in the back some hybrid strategies.
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My thoughts exactly. Which is why the Switch will be a permanent form factor for Nintendo to follow, like their own PlayStation. Whether or not the next console will be called Switch again, what stands is that this form factor has come to stay.

Lugia667 said:
why would Nintendo abandon a successful design model for some weird streaming thing?
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Assuming the “leak” is real, maybe the information got mixed up:
• There’s a dock, but the Super Play will function like a Wii U Gamepad: streaming
— You can either play with Joycons or with the console itself

Also, a name change wouldt surprise me because of brand saturation, but PlayStation has managed to stick with the same name since the 90’s
— But then again, PlayStation is a name that has built goodwill over the years. Switch is a recent console. The brand fatigue from a new brand versus an old one is debatable
 
ziggyrivers said:
My thoughts exactly. Which is why the Switch will be a permanent form factor for Nintendo to follow, like their own PlayStation. Whether or not the next console will be called Switch again, what stands is that this form factor has come to stay.


Assuming the “leak” is real, maybe the information got mixed up:
• There’s a dock, but the Super Play will function like a Wii U Gamepad: streaming
— You can either play with Joycons or with the console itself

Also, a name change wouldt surprise me because of brand saturation, but PlayStation has managed to stick with the same name since the 90’s
— But then again, PlayStation is a name that has built goodwill over the years. Switch is a recent console. The brand fatigue from a new brand versus an old one is debatable
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They said "Super Play" was a pseudonym, not the actual title of the console.

Super Nintendo Switch still sounds good, IMO. The idea of
X Nintendo Switch Y

Where X is the gen and Y is the formfactor/variation sounds like a fantastic format for them to carry forward indefinitely.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
I see people saying things like this, but wouldn't it be kind of foolish to take actions to clear stock while they're still producing them? If they just stopped making OLEDs today they'd run out of them before too long.
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1. Sell as many as they can before next gen launches.

2. Clear stock currently sitting in warehouses to make space for something else.

3. Production is calcified by contracts months in advance, they're stuck with them.

It's not so much they're clearing the last of the stock to ever be made, just that they're planning to sell OLED Model faster than its standard speed for a number of months, which gives them space (literally) in the supply chain.
 
SoldierDelta said:
You may be right, especially considering the kind of game that TTYD is. I do think a lot of Nintendo games don't need RT at all, but I am curious about what kind of games would benefit from it/be able to run with RT in the first place.
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as a cross gen game, it doesn't make much sense. but I can see Nintendo games having some methods completely replaced by RT. it wouldn't affect games like Paper Mario
 
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