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TSR3 said:
IIRC, this reminds me of the display leaks back in early 2021, before the OLED model came out
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those rumours were connected to the 'Switch Pro' and whatever we're getting next is the eventual result of that thread.

'Sharp has been involved since the product's R&D stage' says to me they've been working with Nintendo since back then.
 
I think we are going to see an announcement or at least a leak before the end of the year. Personally, I'm still hoping for a 2023 release.
The way Furukawa talked about next-gen hardware (+ the Q&A) sounds like they finalized their marketing and launch plans for Drake.
 
the bad news 'Sharp plans to launch pilot LCD-panel production lines this fiscal year for the new device'. whatever can be deduced from this is as good as anything we've had so far re launch timing. doesn't sound like it's coming terribly soon tbh ie 2023 or even this FY.
 
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Hermii said:
I would bet on the former. Doesn't Sony make their own screens?
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No. They get them from LG and it is OLED panels. LG had an exclusivity for more than a decade if i remember right. And Sony sold off the screen division a long time ago if I’m not mistaken.

PSVita used the Sharp LCD displays for instance.

Mobius said:
Are those pc gaming tablet considered as "game console"? It could be that Sony PS5-tablet thing anyway
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The Steam deck is considered that, and those other ones, but only Asus and Valve have the absolute scale that towers over things like Aya or GPD.


This could be for that Tencent portable that was rumored ages ago…. Just spitballing. But I also don’t put it past Nintendo to cheap out on this to sell it to you as a premium later on.

L_esson said:
Mini-LED would be great to be honest, if not on par with OLED for a small screen like this.
But I’m not sure if it costs more or less than OLED?
If it costs more I’d see no reason not to keep the current OLED screen
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HankyPanky said:
money is on this Sharp news actually being the panel for Switch 2 and is the Mini-LED thing rumoured years ago coming to fruition. there must be a good reason they're going with the display tech over OLED, will have to read up about the pros and cons. 1080p also becomes increasingly possible if not probable the longer we go on.
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manfromthedam said:
Mini-LED looks very similar to OLED (got a MacBook Pro with Mini-LED). Not sure why they'd go for it? Downside of the Mini-LED in the MacBook is lack of motion clarity compared to my OLED TV and Switch, plus a bit of a halo effect around dimming zones.

They got awesome OLED screens from Samsung, so if this is indeed about Switch it's a bit confusing...
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I’m sorry to say this, but Mini-LED in a device the size of the switch will not be anywhere close to cheap.

They are better off using the OLED if they want to save money. Otherwise, it’s still in a stage where it’s a pricy… choice.

A standard LCD is cheapest though.

Adulfzen said:
doubt it'll happen but if nintendo had two skus at launch with one having the oled screen while being a bit more expensive (and maybe more storage) I'd definitely jump on that one.
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I definitely would not mind paying a bit more for the OLED version if it was available. Otherwise I’ll wait.
 
ReddDreadtheLead said:
PSVita used the Sharp LCD displays for instance.
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First models of Vita used OLED. I have an OG Vita. Can attest and is the reason I bought it used.

ReddDreadtheLead said:
But I also don’t put it past Nintendo to cheap out on this to sell it to you as a premium later on.
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Guess the Switch 2 OLED is coming in 2025/26 lol

ReddDreadtheLead said:
A standard LCD is cheapest though.
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So Switch 2 is either LCD or OLED. Maybe they went to Sharp to try and get a better looking LCD panel than the one the OG Switch has

HankyPanky said:
but it says the production lines are being piloted this FY, that doesn't sound like anything is going to be ready anytime soon.

i'd love to be #Team2023 again though.
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From what RedDread is saying, it doesn’t look like the Mino-LED is Nintendo. But, only Nintendo would care enough to ask a company to remove mention of a new console
 
HankyPanky said:
but it says the production lines are being piloted this FY, that doesn't sound like anything is going to be ready anytime soon.

i'd love to be #Team2023 again though.
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Unless the initial Drake unit uses OLED and releases this CY and the Sharp panels are for a lite model in CY 2025.

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HankyPanky said:
but it says the production lines are being piloted this FY, that doesn't sound like anything is going to be ready anytime soon.

i'd love to be #Team2023 again though.
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Sorry, i'm afraid Teams are close by now.

But i can offer you a place in my Team FY 2024! When it does launch in CY 2023, it still counts because that's FY 2024!
 
maybe it's Mini-LED maybe it's not but it does line up with the reports from years ago about that exact screen-tech being considered for the 'Switch Pro'. but it's almost certain that this customer is Nintendo. it's also probably not fair to compare whatever screen they've been working on for a number of years with existing devices on the market. you'd think Nintendo wouldn't be using whatever it is if it's gonna be in any way worse than the current OLED. there would have to be a good reason for pursuing whatever screen tech they'll be going with as it sounds like a big investment. new production lines doesn't sound like your standard LCD fare either but we'll see.
 
Bonejack said:
Sorry, i'm afraid Teams are close by now.

But i can offer you a place in my Team FY 2024! When it does launch in CY 2023, it still counts because that's FY 2024!
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i'll have to speak to my best Pfuncle (Panel Factory Uncle) and get back to you on that one!
 
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I know this is a hardware thread, but I’ve just seen Silksong is delayed …

… I’d been wondering if Nintendo had been keeping June open just for Silksong, as it was originally an exclusive?
 
Z-Z0 said:
They could make 2 SKUs, cheaper one with LCD and premium one with OLED
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I don’t think Nintendo will have two SKUs at launch. Especially if they require two different manufacturing processes. That would be too costly.

That said, maybe this really is for the PS Q-Lite. If OLED screens are cheaper than a Mini LED for a device the size of a Switch’s, then why go with a LCD-ish screen?

Unless they’re thinking in the long game and want to release another OLED revision
 
If it's LCD again I'm probably going to wait for a revision. I primarily play indie games so extra power wouldn't benefit alot of the type of games I play which are 2D pixel art games. In this scenario all these games would actually be a downgrade on the newer system when playing handheld.

I think it paid off me getting a Switch OLED if the next Switch doesn't have an OLED, I also have modded and OLED makes a good emulation and game streaming device too.
 
tbh the only way I'd be happy by them going back to LCD is if it's a VRR panel that'd make a lot of games so much smoother by default while also making 40 fps a more manageable and visually pleasing target in some instances
 
I tried to warn y'all this was going to happen, Nintendo is going to position Switch 2 as the thing people want for raw power while the OLED is for people who want a premium Switch experience
 
manfromthedam said:
Mini-LED looks very similar to OLED (got a MacBook Pro with Mini-LED). Not sure why they'd go for it? Downside of the Mini-LED in the MacBook is lack of motion clarity compared to my OLED TV and Switch, plus a bit of a halo effect around dimming zones.

They got awesome OLED screens from Samsung, so if this is indeed about Switch it's a bit confusing...
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Mini LED screens can achieve higher brightness levels than OLED and don't suffer from burn-in. (Personally I've had an OLED TV for years without burn-in being an issue, but it's something some people are concerned about.) They also should consume less power than OLED panels, according to the last graph from this article. The downsides, as you say, are lack of motion clarity and haloing due to the lack of per-pixel dimming.

One thing that jumps out at me is the article claims they were working closely since the R&D phase, which would make a standard LCD seem pretty unlikely, as Nintendo could basically pick those up off a shelf. They also multi-sourced LCD panels for the Switch, so why would they work closely with a single supplier for standard LCD panels for the successor? To me this suggests that if the customer is Nintendo, some kind of non-standard LCD would seem likely, with mini LED being one candidate.

I'm not aware of any mini LED screens in the ~7" size range, though, with the smallest being almost 4x as large (the 12.9" iPad Pro). The number of LED backlights is an important factor in the quality of a mini LED display, and the smaller the display, the harder it is to fit a large number of LEDs, and therefore a large number of dimming zones. Perhaps the smaller number of dimming zones and the resultant haloing wouldn't be as noticeable on a small screen, though. Developing a mini LED screen small enough to work in a Switch successor while still retaining reasonably good localised contrast would definitely require working closely during R&D, though.
 
Someone please convince me that LCD instead of OLED is not that big of a deal. I just got my Switch OLED and it really is much better than the original screen.
 
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Thraktor said:
Mini LED screens can achieve higher brightness levels than OLED and don't suffer from burn-in. (Personally I've had an OLED TV for years without burn-in being an issue, but it's something some people are concerned about.) They also should consume less power than OLED panels, according to the last graph from this article. The downsides, as you say, are lack of motion clarity and haloing due to the lack of per-pixel dimming.

One thing that jumps out at me is the article claims they were working closely since the R&D phase, which would make a standard LCD seem pretty unlikely, as Nintendo could basically pick those up off a shelf. They also multi-sourced LCD panels for the Switch, so why would they work closely with a single supplier for standard LCD panels for the successor? To me this suggests that if the customer is Nintendo, some kind of non-standard LCD would seem likely, with mini LED being one candidate.

I'm not aware of any mini LED screens in the ~7" size range, though, with the smallest being almost 4x as large (the 12.9" iPad Pro). The number of LED backlights is an important factor in the quality of a mini LED display, and the smaller the display, the harder it is to fit a large number of LEDs, and therefore a large number of dimming zones. Perhaps the smaller number of dimming zones and the resultant haloing wouldn't be as noticeable on a small screen, though. Developing a mini LED screen small enough to work in a Switch successor while still retaining reasonably good localised contrast would definitely require working closely during R&D, though.
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Couldn't it potentially mean a non standard screen resolution?
 
maybe they've found a way to increase motion clarity beyond what we've typically seen in handhelds with whatever screen tech is employed. this would be top of the list if i was designing a portable gaming system. yes the OLED is plenty smooth and there are potentially higher refresh rates, but as a CRT/Plasma lover not really that smooth.
 
Bonejack said:
Please, show some understanding. Everyone at Nintendo Japan is prolly drunk from celebrating TotK's release and upcoming review score sweep.
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please understand xD

Paxie said:
I tried to warn y'all this was going to happen, Nintendo is going to position Switch 2 as the thing people want for raw power while the OLED is for people who want a premium Switch experience
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So it’s the Pro, without being the Pro

Thraktor said:
(Personally I've had an OLED TV for years without burn-in being an issue, but it's something some people are concerned about.)
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I imagine it’s more probable on smaller screens. My OLED Vita suffered from black color burn in

Thraktor said:
Mini LED screens can achieve higher brightness levels than OLED and don't suffer from burn-in.
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This could be why they’re going with Mini-LED. They want to avoid a scenario where their OLED screens have burn in. Imagine how viral that would be. “My Switch’s screen has some spots in it”.

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Pokemaniac said:
I'd much prefer Nintendo stick more to emulators for making their back catalog available. It's a much more efficient way to go about it.
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Some stuff, due to various circumstances, would be better off doing proper ports. Gamecube and Wii era, specifically, are eras that are in the most complicated situation due to size and limitations of the hardware (Super Mario Sunshine runs the code natively on the Switch but emulates everything else, while Galaxy is a full proper port). Realistically those are the games and stuff that would be more focused on providing a proper port for.

As for everything else, I don't inherently disagree, but Nintendo should really be making their classic catalog available for purchase in some form alongside the on demand service they provide. If they're concerned about lack of sales for individual titles, maybe making collections and stuff, similar to what other companies have done? Either way, I've been really outspoken about the fact that only having the stuff on demand isn't a good thing, especially when you consider eventually said services will go down and make them inaccessible (and Nintendo's timing on the services can lead you in a spot where you can't access it if you're outside that 7 day window without internet access).
 
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Really hoping they stick with OLED. I'm not sure what gimmick they could add to an LCD panel that'd make it worth the tradeoff for me personally

(miniLED would be cool, but I'd be very surprised if it was that)
 
As someone who uses OLED and LCD on the daily, OLEDs have issues and LCDs are still great. If this is a NEW technology like Sharp seems to imply, it could be VERY impressive. HDR, high-nit brightness mini LED LCD would smash OLED Model.
 
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