• Hey everyone, staff have documented a list of banned content and subject matter that we feel are not consistent with site values, and don't make sense to host discussion of on Famiboards. This list (and the relevant reasoning per item) is viewable here.

StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

Reader mode
davec00ke said:
Stupid question why are Nintendo not allowed 7-8 year console generations like Playstation and Xbox.
Click to expand...
Allowed sets up a big strawman to knock down, but: Nintendo has never gone even 6 years without a major new hardware before. During the last hardware generation even MS and Sony put a major release in the middle, splitting it into 3 and 4 (or vice-versa) year chunks. Previous Nintendo handhelds had revisions with bigger improvements than seen from base Switch to OLED. So I find the prospect of 7+ years of having no option much better than what I bought in March 2017 annoying.
 
Considering that Nintendo trimmed Home menu assets down to less than 200KB, I have to agree, the memory usage by the system may go up, but we should not expect that substantial of a jump.
Aether said:
I have seen many cases of consumer hardware including unused parts from other models cause the removal or reengineering and the administrative cost would be more expensive then the chips even on a big scale, but for sure i did not look into the specific amount of ics and how costly those would be. There for sure is a chance that the cost of them just is high enough that redeveloping a new board and producing it would be the better choice.
Click to expand...
Also, the board itself would require less copper by running current between fewer components.

Went to check the IFixit teardown, the specific ICs that would be removable from the console itself in the scenario of a TV-only version would likely be:
Rohm BM92T36 USB-C controller
Texas Instruments BQ24193 single cell battery charger
Pericom Semiconductor PI3USB30532 USB 3.0/DP1.2 matrix switch
STMicroelectronics LSM6DS3H 3-axis accelerometer/gyroscope
Maxim Integrated MAX17050 battery fuel gauge
Rohm BH1603FVC ambient light sensor

Without knowing how they’re used, you could maybe take out one of the two Maxim Integrated MAX77621AEWI+T three phase buck regulators in it, too.

You replace all of these with PSU for power, a USB controller for USB accessories and harvest an IC out of the dock (Megachips STDP2550 Mobility DisplayPort to HDMI Converter) and likely able to not carry over the remaining 6 ICs in the dock (might have to keep the 2 CMOS ICs in it, dunno), as most of it is for USB-C power management.

And if the Game Card board (which is separate from the rest) is redesigned to remove the headphone jack, they could also remove the STMicroelectronics FingerTip touchscreen controller from that board, as well, but this might be one of the moments where a redesign is not ideal like you suggest and we’d have a console with a headphone jack inexplicably as a cost-saving measure. But who knows, they added the onboard flash storage directly to the main board in the OLED revision to remove one of the only other boards separate from the main board and redesigned so that 2 of the separate boards (SD card slot and Game Card slot) became one combined board, so… who knows.

So yeah, even without knowing the precise cost of each chip, that’s a LOT of them required to make the hybrid function a reality and would trim a significant cost.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Allowed sets up a big strawman to knock down, but: Nintendo has never gone even 6 years without a major new hardware before. During the last hardware generation even MS and Sony put a major release in the middle, splitting it into 3 and 4 (or vice-versa) year chunks. Previous Nintendo handhelds had revisions with bigger improvements than seen from base Switch to OLED. So I find the prospect of 7+ years of having no option much better than what I bought in March 2017 annoying.
Click to expand...
2023 keeps not stopping to make sense.
 
I'm absolutely expecting the OS to be beefier and perhaps take up 2x as much space.
Krikeno said:
Why do people assume that Nintendo won't release a new model this year? lol
Click to expand...
Nintendo is supposedly ramping up switch production this year. 21 million iirc.

One could argue that Nintendo wants to milk the Switch as long as they can, cause it's been a while any console in its 6th year has this much momentum in its 6th year. Sales of the switch will drop when the successor arrives. It's very unusual for a Nintendo home console to last this long without a successor release , but it's handheld consoles have lasted 7 years or so without a successor.
 
ShadowFox08 said:
I'm absolutely expecting the OS to be beefier and perhaps take up 2x as much space.

Nintendo is supposedly ramping up switch production this year. 21 million iirc.

One could argue that Nintendo wants to milk the Switch as long as they can, cause it's been a while any console in its 6th year has this much momentum in its 6th year. Sales of the switch will drop when the successor arrives. It's very unusual for a Nintendo home console to last this long without a successor release , but it's handheld consoles have lasted 7 years or so without a successor.
Click to expand...
there was also much less competition in the handheld space. don't think they'll attempt to keep that rout
 
ShadowFox08 said:
I'm absolutely expecting the OS to be beefier and perhaps take up 2x as much space.

Nintendo is supposedly ramping up switch production this year. 21 million iirc.

One could argue that Nintendo wants to milk the Switch as long as they can, cause it's been a while any console in its 6th year has this much momentum in its 6th year. Sales of the switch will drop when the successor arrives. It's very unusual for a Nintendo home console to last this long without a successor release , but it's handheld consoles have lasted 7 years or so without a successor.
Click to expand...
What are the chances that the ramping up of Switch production would include the successor if they consider it part of the Switch family, much like how the GB, GBC, and GBA are all part of the Game Boy family?
 
Discostew said:
What are the chances that the ramping up of Switch production would include the successor if they consider it part of the Switch family, much like how the GB, GBC, and GBA are all part of the Game Boy family?
Click to expand...
If it's marketed that way and is using a lot of the same parts as the OLED, I'd say a good 50-60%.
 
0
Discostew said:
What are the chances that the ramping up of Switch production would include the successor if they consider it part of the Switch family, much like how the GB, GBC, and GBA are all part of the Game Boy family?
Click to expand...
I've been thinking of this a few times actually. Keep it in the "Switch" name family. It's hard to say. Only time will tell.
 
antonz said:
I believe what he is saying is that to hide new hardware they would be simply lumping it all together as "Switch" Which would make sense. The idea that Nintendo who has seen sales decline is suddenly going to manufacture millions more for "hidden demand" is a strange one
Click to expand...
As far as that goes, I don't think the question of the Switch family is even that salient. Telling suppliers to expect bigger volumes in the next FY doesn't mean they have to tell them "this is for a Switch btw." The reporting just framed it as "Nintendo tells suppliers to expect more Switch orders," but that's probably not literally what was communicated, since assemblers are the only ones who have to know what Nintendo is making, component suppliers just have to know what Nintendo wants from them, and even assemblers could be in negotiations for increased capacity without finalization on details yet. So I wouldn't call it "hiding" anything, but yes, increased orders could be for hardware other than current Switch models -- whether or not they're calling it part of the same family.

I was just thinking of forecasts and sales figures since that stuff was also being reported alongside the production supplier bits, hence the GBA comment, where it does matter whether it's in a different family.
 
Raccoon said:
At the very least something having been planned but cancelled makes more sense than the plan having always been later than this year.
Click to expand...
Cancellation even seems extremely unlikely.

As I've said before, whatever has happened, if it's happened, is likely more of a repositioning of the device rather than a complete rethink.
 
Discostew said:
What are the chances that the ramping up of Switch production would include the successor if they consider it part of the Switch family, much like how the GB, GBC, and GBA are all part of the Game Boy family?
Click to expand...
I unironically think the chance is extremely high.

Nintendo's huge volume of raw materials last year won't just disappear on their own, and last I heard, factory leaks point to the new model this year bearing the Nintendo Switch logo.

Part of the same family and a successor, both can be true at the same time.
 
I just want to be part of the family too!

Loving the optimism out there, I'm still expecting zero hardware news and the 'usual' February Direct with Zelda, but I have quite high expectations this time, especially after the last big one.
 
L_esson said:
I just want to be part of the family too!

Loving the optimism out there, I'm still expecting zero hardware news and the 'usual' February Direct with Zelda, but I have quite high expectations this time, especially after the last big one.
Click to expand...
Call me a pessimist, but unless they're after showing the new hardware, I expect Directs to be DIRE. Like, nothing but remasters and DLC, for quite some time.

Now I'd be more than happy with that, but I can't pretend I expect Switch to go out with a "bang" beyond what we already know. The "bang" is TOTK and the huge number of 3rd party ports the last few months (and going forward).
 
0
I know am late to the party but speaking of weird Nintendo controllers ports. Anyone remember the Wii U gamepad bottom port? It was described by Nintendo as a "accessory port" but that didn't happen. The Wii Mote gun as shown in Wii U 2011 reveal was likely one of the things which used it. But hey iirc Nintendo used that port internally to capture gamepad footage.

wii_u_gamepad_mystery_connector.jpg
 
LukasManak22 said:
I know am late to the party but speaking of weird Nintendo controllers ports. Anyone remember the Wii U gamepad bottom port? It was described by Nintendo as a "accessory port" but that didn't happen. The Wii Mote gun as shown in Wii U 2011 reveal was likely one of the things which used it. But hey iirc Nintendo used that port internally to capture gamepad footage.

wii_u_gamepad_mystery_connector.jpg
Click to expand...
That port was another bit of Wii U GamePad's overengineering, since it could work as video AND controller I/O. Cameras, sensors, extra buttons, chargers, docks, it could do everything in theory and did absolutely nothing in practice.

Also the fact Nintendo had a proprietary, standard definition, digital video port in 2012 is... Wild.

Honestly it has some similarities to the Nintendo Switch USB-C port, down to the spring-loaded connector, around the female port on Wii U GamePad, and around the male port in Nintendo Switch Dock.

I absolutely adore Wii U, for stuff like this! It's so absurd! It's so overengineered! It's so fun!

But it's also very clearly something that contributed to Nintendo Switch, just like the rest of the Wii U GamePad, a port on the bottom that does video, I/O and power all in one, even has indents for dock or accessory alignment, only the Wii U dock never released!
 
If the new device is releasing this half of 2023 my gut is telling me this week something will happen.

Either a leak from an uncle, some kind of announcement from Nintendo, be that the full reveal or an announcement of the reveal, my gut tells me this week.

If not then I'm personally writing off H1 2023 and will be grabbing myself a portable 4k display and Retroflag grip for my switch in April.
 
Concernt said:
That port was another bit of Wii U GamePad's overengineering, since it could work as video AND controller I/O. Cameras, sensors, extra buttons, chargers, docks, it could do everything in theory and did absolutely nothing in practice.

Also the fact Nintendo had a proprietary, standard definition, digital video port in 2012 is... Wild.

Honestly it has some similarities to the Nintendo Switch USB-C port, down to the spring-loaded connector, around the female port on Wii U GamePad, and around the male port in Nintendo Switch Dock.

I absolutely adore Wii U, for stuff like this! It's so absurd! It's so overengineered! It's so fun!

But it's also very clearly something that contributed to Nintendo Switch, just like the rest of the Wii U GamePad, a port on the bottom that does video, I/O and power all in one, even has indents for dock or accessory alignment, only the Wii U dock never released!
Click to expand...
i honestly don't think it contributed that much. it was more that a lof of what they wanted to do did not have a simple cheap standardized aproach, so they had to do it that way.
if we had usb c, power delivery, alternate mode back then during its development, you can bet that nintendo would have used it.
 
ShaunSwitch said:
If the new device is releasing this half of 2023 my gut is telling me this week something will happen.

Either a leak from an uncle, some kind of announcement from Nintendo, be that the full reveal or an announcement of the reveal, my gut tells me this week.

If not then I'm personally writing off H1 2023 and will be grabbing myself a portable 4k display and Retroflag grip for my switch in April.
Click to expand...

My gut tells me that Nintendo will only announce, show games and reveal new Oled models for the rest of the year. They will bring out new heavy hitters for the latter half of the year. New Device will be for E3 next year
 
Terrell said:
Pretty near certain that you’ve got your price tier mixed up, it’s SoC, screen, RAM, battery (which you missed), flash storage. This can be seen in pretty much every BoM I’ve ever seen from smartphones. And of all components, flash storage pricing is falling the fastest.
Click to expand...
Yeah, the ordering's probably wrong, although I think in Nintendo's case the RAM might be more expensive than the screen. Smartphones typically use flexible OLED panels with notches or cutouts, which add quite a bit to the cost compared to even the rigid OLED panel used in the OLED model (not to mention it having a lower resolution and using the previous generation Samsung OLED screen tech). I would also expect Nintendo to be paying a bit more for RAM, by virtue of using two modules instead of one.

Krikeno said:
Why do people assume that Nintendo won't release a new model this year? lol
Click to expand...
Even if a Switch 2 (or whatever the T239-powered model will be called) doesn't release this year, it would be very surprising if Nintendo doesn't release any new hardware this year at all. That would mean going two full calendar years without any kind of hardware release, which would be very unusual for Nintendo (I'm guessing you'd have to go back at least to the SNES era to see two years without any Nintendo hardware).

As to what hardware they could release if they don't have the Switch 2 this year, it's difficult to think of anything that would move the needle too much on sales, and presumably at this stage of the Switch's life they'd be looking to cut down manufacturing costs to hit the lower end of the price spectrum. A TV only model is the obvious contender, but it would have to be very cheap to make much of a difference to sales. Another possibility is if they managed to die-shrink TX1 further to 7nm/6nm, they could release a replacement for the Lite without the heatsink/fan assembly, and with a smaller battery, potentially allowing them to bring the price down further. As far as I'm aware there's no evidence of another TX1 die shrink in either the Switch OS or L4T, though, which makes that pretty unlikely to me.
 
Aether said:
i honestly don't think it contributed that much. it was more that a lof of what they wanted to do did not have a simple cheap standardized aproach, so they had to do it that way.
if we had usb c, power delivery, alternate mode back then during its development, you can bet that nintendo would have used it.
Click to expand...
No they wouldn't, hahahah. USB was already capable of all that at that point. Nintendo, once upon a time, LOVED proprietary connectors.
 
Mr Swine said:
My gut tells me that Nintendo will only announce, show games and reveal new Oled models for the rest of the year. They will bring out new heavy hitters for the latter half of the year. New Device will be for E3 next year
Click to expand...
A new device at E3?

It isn't 2010 anymore. 😆
 
Concernt said:
No they wouldn't, hahahah. USB was already capable of all that at that point. Nintendo, once upon a time, LOVED proprietary connectors.
Click to expand...
Just looked into it. Assuming USB 3.0:
I mean, there where propriatary solutions, there was the usb video class with MJPG and MPEG2/4. charging would only be 5V 0.9A, meaning 3.1W less then the provided power supply. connector would be way bigger, since they would have to add a usb3 port. And i am not sure about the pricing structure, or when the wii u was in "to late to change".
i remember that usb 3 was more expensive back then on release, but have no clue about what dimensions we are talking, and how much the certification would cost compared to this connector.

being capable and being convenient are 2 different things, and while i appreciate your factual addition im not fond of the kinda condescending tone. (at least to me it seems that way)

While every company loves their proprietary connectors, there also the factor of a)user acceptance and b) the more complex the signal gets, the more expensive it gets to produce your own controller ICs for a proprietary protocol. And if you just change it back to a standard usb mapping, then you can be sure that there would be a backlash.
Apple has only luck because they moved to lightning before usb - c was out.
 
Aether said:
Just looked into it. Assuming USB 3.0:
I mean, there where propriatary solutions, there was the usb video class with MJPG and MPEG2/4. charging would only be 5V 0.9A, meaning 3.1W less then the provided power supply. connector would be way bigger, since they would have to add a usb3 port. And i am not sure about the pricing structure, or when the wii u was in "to late to change".
i remember that usb 3 was more expensive back then on release, but have no clue about what dimensions we are talking, and how much the certification would cost compared to this connector.

being capable and being convenient are 2 different things, and while i appreciate your factual addition im not fond of the kinda condescending tone. (at least to me it seems that way)

While every company loves their proprietary connectors, there also the factor of a)user acceptance and b) the more complex the signal gets, the more expensive it gets to produce your own controller ICs for a proprietary protocol. And if you just change it back to a standard usb mapping, then you can be sure that there would be a backlash.
Apple has only luck because they moved to lightning before usb - c was out.
Click to expand...
Hahaha, no. I mean come on, Micro USB could have done that. And iPhones.

Not using Micro USB in 2012 was much like not using USB C today.

Nintendo didn't even use USB charging for the GamePad, they just wanted their proprietary port because they're Nintendo and they thought they were "better". The only real advantage of the accessory port on Wii U GamePad would have been how easy it is to connect to things with its huge stand-offs and spring-loaded connector. Big surprise, they managed to integrate those into Nintendo Switch USB-C, but yeah, that would have been a lot less feasible over Micro B.
 
Vash_the_Stampede said:
Anyone remember that smart, handsome, well endowed guy who said chip oversupply is coming while small peepee public company CEOs predicted the chip shortage lasting until 2024?
Click to expand...

I’m a little surprised this statement was called out as “wildly inappropriate” and resulted in a week long thread ban.

I accept the rules as they are, but it made me realize my sense of humor doesn’t fit in here. I mostly participate bc this is supposed to be fun.

Getting banned isn’t fun and making others deal with my “wildly inappropriate” comments isn’t fair. So this is goodbye.

I’ll still lurk a bit as I’ve learned a lot from many of you, and I hope we get some awesome hardware.

Shout out to
@Vash
@NateDrake
@oldpuck
@Thraktor
@Z0m3le
@Dakhil
@Raccoon
@ShadowFox08
@ILikeFeet
@Dekuman
@LiC
 
MP! said:
Perhaps they bump recording time to 60 seconds or even add a higher quality 1080p option
That would certainly increase memory footprint.
I’d like that and a higher resolution menu.
Maybe in 20 years we’ll get themes
Click to expand...
Higher resolution menus are a very low priority for me.
I personally would like them to implement a way on drake to capture footage for at least an hour or two. Built-in streaming would be nice as well.

It's long overdue. Nintendo has been lacking in proper media sharing functionality on their platforms for nearly a decade now (I'm talking about the PS4).
 
Vash_the_Stampede said:
I’m a little surprised this statement was called out as “wildly inappropriate” and resulted in a week long thread ban.

I accept the rules as they are, but it made me realize my sense of humor doesn’t fit in here. I mostly participate bc this is supposed to be fun.

Getting banned isn’t fun and making others deal with my “wildly inappropriate” comments isn’t fair. So this is goodbye.

I’ll still lurk a bit as I’ve learned a lot from many of you, and I hope we get some awesome hardware.

Shout out to
@Vash
@NateDrake
@oldpuck
@Thraktor
@Z0m3le
@Dakhil
@Raccoon
@ShadowFox08
@ILikeFeet
@Dekuman
@LiC
Click to expand...
I definitely agree that there was nothing "wildly inappropriate" about that comment.
 
Vash_the_Stampede said:
I’m a little surprised this statement was called out as “wildly inappropriate” and resulted in a week long thread ban.

I accept the rules as they are, but it made me realize my sense of humor doesn’t fit in here. I mostly participate bc this is supposed to be fun.

Getting banned isn’t fun and making others deal with my “wildly inappropriate” comments isn’t fair. So this is goodbye.

I’ll still lurk a bit as I’ve learned a lot from many of you, and I hope we get some awesome hardware.

Shout out to
@Vash
@NateDrake
@oldpuck
@Thraktor
@Z0m3le
@Dakhil
@Raccoon
@ShadowFox08
@ILikeFeet
@Dekuman
@LiC
Click to expand...
I hope this doesn't end up as humourless as a certain other forum.
 
Concernt said:
Hahaha, no. I mean come on, Micro USB could have done that. And iPhones.

Not using Micro USB in 2012 was much like not using USB C today.

Nintendo didn't even use USB charging for the GamePad, they just wanted their proprietary port because they're Nintendo and they thought they were "better". The only real advantage of the accessory port on Wii U GamePad would have been how easy it is to connect to things with its huge stand-offs and spring-loaded connector. Big surprise, they managed to integrate those into Nintendo Switch USB-C, but yeah, that would have been a lot less feasible over Micro B.
Click to expand...
As somebody that hs a ton of gadgets where the micro usb connector broke while none where the usb c connector broke...no, its not the same. micro b superspeed is arguably an even worse connector.
The micro usb is mechanically one of the worst connectors i have experienced. it was okay for stationary uses, but as soon as you had mechanical strain (like many phones had during the charging), it was just a bad port, and that was not unknown by then.
ts the only connector, where not the cable broke from use, but the slot.

(The problem was that while testing they had a lifetime rating of 10k insertions and removals, real world use did not only insert or remove those connectors, since they where small they where used in handheld devices, which did add additional strain from bending cables. And as a company that produces toys, i am confident that that was a topic for nintendo)
 
0
Vash_the_Stampede said:
I’m a little surprised this statement was called out as “wildly inappropriate” and resulted in a week long thread ban.

I accept the rules as they are, but it made me realize my sense of humor doesn’t fit in here. I mostly participate bc this is supposed to be fun.

Getting banned isn’t fun and making others deal with my “wildly inappropriate” comments isn’t fair. So this is goodbye.

I’ll still lurk a bit as I’ve learned a lot from many of you, and I hope we get some awesome hardware.

Shout out to
@Vash
@NateDrake
@oldpuck
@Thraktor
@Z0m3le
@Dakhil
@Raccoon
@ShadowFox08
@ILikeFeet
@Dekuman
@LiC
Click to expand...
wait did you get banned for calling out ... yourself?
hahaha
 
Vash_the_Stampede said:
I’m a little surprised this statement was called out as “wildly inappropriate” and resulted in a week long thread ban.

I accept the rules as they are, but it made me realize my sense of humor doesn’t fit in here. I mostly participate bc this is supposed to be fun.

Getting banned isn’t fun and making others deal with my “wildly inappropriate” comments isn’t fair. So this is goodbye.

I’ll still lurk a bit as I’ve learned a lot from many of you, and I hope we get some awesome hardware.

Shout out to
@Vash
@NateDrake
@oldpuck
@Thraktor
@Z0m3le
@Dakhil
@Raccoon
@ShadowFox08
@ILikeFeet
@Dekuman
@LiC
Click to expand...
i didnt see anything wrong with your comment that resulted in the ban. I'll miss seeing you here. Hope you are enjoying Stampede as much as i have been.
 
I'm new to this forum, so forgive me if this has already been answered, but...

What kind of power levels are we expecting out of the next Switch? PS4 levels? A midpoint between PS4 and 5?

Graphical fidelity isn't that big of a deal to me. I'm just concerned about the 3rd party support this next Switch will receive, or not receive. Will it be strong to receive ports from PS5, or no?
 
davec00ke said:
Stupid question why are Nintendo not allowed 7-8 year console generations like Playstation and Xbox.
Click to expand...
a) they are?
b) if you mean why do entusiasts expect faster turnarounds: they dont?
ps360 generation the 2 where lambasted because they where so much behind pc.

With Wii it was simply, that wii was really behing current TV tech in the lates 00s, and by 2011 everybody had big HD tvs where the Wii really did not look good.
In regards to the switch:
PS4/XBO had mid gen refreshes, that helped it feel fresh for longer and not only catch up to 1080 but also move past it.
Switch did not.
 
Hairway to Steven said:
What is the difference, per se? Does that mean it will be significantly weaker than Series X/PS5?

Forgive my ignorance.
Click to expand...
It'll probably be closer to next gen in general than Switch was to the previous gen (PS4/XB1) but it isn't gonna be terribly close to PS5/XBX level. Good enough to get probably more downports than Switch got.

Also I love your user name.
 
Hairway to Steven said:
I'm new to this forum, so forgive me if this has already been answered, but...

What kind of power levels are we expecting out of the next Switch? PS4 levels? A midpoint between PS4 and 5?

Graphical fidelity isn't that big of a deal to me. I'm just concerned about the 3rd party support this next Switch will receive, or not receive. Will it be strong to receive ports from PS5, or no?
Click to expand...
I'm also kinda new to this forum so take my answer with a truckload of salt, but from my understanding :

REMEMBER : We have limited data, and a lot of stuff is unknown. Everything I will say is estimations, not confirmations.
1) Switch 2 has a GPU that, in handheld, has a power around that of a PS4. It also has DLSS, helping reconstruct to higher resolutions, and making it powerful enough to handle new games by lowering the settings and resolution, and using DLSS to reconstruct with decent image quality. From what I read on this forum, in docked we estimate that Switch 2 can do with DLSS what Series S can do with native res. GPU performance is not usually the limiting factor for ports though.
2) Switch 2 has RT cores. I personnally don't know how powerful and there probably is some data on that which I can't be bothered to search, but although it's gonna be weaker than "next-gen" consoles it's an Nvidia chip as opposed to AMD in other consoles, and Nvidia is quite better at RT. So it's gonna be less powerful, but if I had to guess it's gonna be reasonably close to Series S in docked. So games that require RT could run, although with much reduced settings.
3) Switch 2 has also a relatively powerful CPU, which is more important regarding ports : because lowering the GPU load of a game is easy, lowering the CPU load not that much. So it should help with the porting process. CPU is once again not as powerful as "next-gen" consoles, but it's close enough for ports to happen.
4) Switch 2 should have 12GB of RAM, which is actually more than Series S. RAM is also very important for porting, especially if you want to keep RT as RT is very VRAM heavy. The lack of RAM in Series S is actually very limiting for developpers who want to implement RT, and it won't be as much of a problem with Switch 2.

Overall, Switch 2 is close to "next-gen" consoles in RAM and CPU, the most important for ports. OG Switch was quite good in the CPU department for its time, but not as good as Switch 2 and the RAM was really lacking on OG Switch.
Switch 2 gets further behing with the GPU, but it's not that much of a problem for ports as it has DLSS to help compensate, and lowering the GPU load is easy by just turning down settings.

And to conclude, just remember the truckload of salt I recommended you bring. I am not an expert in this topic AT ALL.
 
Last edited:
Skittzo said:
It'll probably be closer to next gen in general than Switch was to the previous gen (PS4/XB1) but it isn't gonna be terribly close to PS5/XBX level. Good enough to get probably more downports than Switch got.

Also I love your user name.
Click to expand...

That's good enough, honestly. So long as it's strong enough for Japanese 3rd parties to include it in the development pipeline alongside PS5/XBX, I'm happy.

And thanks!
 
Krikeno said:
Why do people assume that Nintendo won't release a new model this year? lol
Click to expand...
I think under normal circumstances they'd have something at least every two years. But if it does end up being the case that they had something planned for 2023 that is no longer happening in 2023, it's harder to see them having time to rush the design and release of yet another in-between model for the same time period.
 
Hairway to Steven said:
I'm new to this forum, so forgive me if this has already been answered, but...

What kind of power levels are we expecting out of the next Switch? PS4 levels? A midpoint between PS4 and 5?

Graphical fidelity isn't that big of a deal to me. I'm just concerned about the 3rd party support this next Switch will receive, or not receive. Will it be strong to receive ports from PS5, or no?
Click to expand...
You may find oldpuck's summary interesting:
famiboards.com

Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

I personnally hate this kind of thing. It's impossible to pronounce lol Nintendo Twitch, obviously
famiboards.com famiboards.com

It goes through everything we know so far (well, maybe not 100% at this point, but the big stuff is still in there) and also roughly estimates, based on what we know to date, it's power ranges, from worst to realistic to best case scenarios. I believe the only key things we're still missing and can't put a finger on are the clockspeeds? But in short, yes, we're probably looking at a PS4~PS4Pro + DLSS, RayTracing (~ish) and a much more modern architecture.
 
Reader mode
You must log in or register to reply here.
Please read this staff post before posting.

Furthermore, according to this follow-up post, all off-topic chat will be moderated.
Last edited:


Back
Top Bottom