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And hey, they've sacrificed compatibility with peripherals before, even before Labo. Gameboy micro wasn't compatible with the ereader, for example.
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Alright, yet again putting on my tinfoil hat: Final Fantasy Pixel Remaster Collection received a nebulous release date of "Spring 2023" for both Switch and PS4.
I'm putting this one down as another potential game that could be releasing on May 12th alongside a Switch successor and TotK (the first being what may have been the original release date for Hogwarts Legacy before the delay that I mentioned a few pages ago). Additionally, the store backend had a placeholder date of May 31, 2023.
Fully aware that this is almost certainly not the case, but hey - this is where the tinfoil hat is accepted, right?
I'm putting this one down as another potential game that could be releasing on May 12th alongside a Switch successor and TotK (the first being what may have been the original release date for Hogwarts Legacy before the delay that I mentioned a few pages ago). Additionally, the store backend had a placeholder date of May 31, 2023.
Fully aware that this is almost certainly not the case, but hey - this is where the tinfoil hat is accepted, right?
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Game Boy Micro is an interesting case, the final Game Boy that can't play original Game Boy games.
I wondered before why they didn't call it 'Game Boy Advance Micro' but it makes sense when one realizes that in 2005 the only retail 'Game Boy' games on shelves were likely Game Boy Advance games, if a casual gamer bought a Game Boy Micro and were looking for a compatible game there'd be plenty of 'Game Boy' games to choose from.
It almost feels like a "look how far we've come" sendoff. The Game Boy brand, down to the logo, lasted almost 16 years even if the original DMG model lasted about half that long. Makes one wonder how long 'Switch' will last. It's already a more universal (and gender neutral) brand
I wondered before why they didn't call it 'Game Boy Advance Micro' but it makes sense when one realizes that in 2005 the only retail 'Game Boy' games on shelves were likely Game Boy Advance games, if a casual gamer bought a Game Boy Micro and were looking for a compatible game there'd be plenty of 'Game Boy' games to choose from.
It almost feels like a "look how far we've come" sendoff. The Game Boy brand, down to the logo, lasted almost 16 years even if the original DMG model lasted about half that long. Makes one wonder how long 'Switch' will last. It's already a more universal (and gender neutral) brand
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however long Pokemon lastsGame Boy Micro is an interesting case, the final Game Boy that can't play original Game Boy games.
I wondered before why they didn't call it 'Game Boy Advance Micro' but it makes sense when one realizes that in 2005 the only retail 'Game Boy' games on shelves were likely Game Boy Advance games, if a casual gamer bought a Game Boy Micro and were looking for a compatible game there'd be plenty of 'Game Boy' games to choose from.
It almost feels like a "look how far we've come" sendoff. The Game Boy brand, down to the logo, lasted almost 16 years even if the original DMG model lasted about half that long. Makes one wonder how long 'Switch' will last. It's already a more universal (and gender neutral) brand
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I have a question for this thread:
How does Nintendo plans to secure adoption of this device from the mass market(not enthusiasts) in its early years(I assume they would want as many people as possible buying it since they will release exclusives for it and third parties too) considering the following thoughts some have mentioned here:
I'm sorry but I feel there is something off. I am fairly confident such a device as above wouldn't be enough to convince many random people in buying it over the Switch. Imagine: It cost 100-150$ more, has no first party exclusives, is not marketed as the next big thing, looks just like the Switch OLED... Infact it looks more like a revision than something Nintendo would want to last for at least six years. And if it is treated as a revision I'm afraid it will be perceived by the random mass market as such and do revision sales.
If they are perceived too close together despite the gap in performance or 4K patches/versions, the Switch will be its first competitor, stealing its sales which would have been much more beneficial to the new device long term. Some people(not the enthusiasts) who already have a Switch may not even feel the incentive to upgrade. I feel trying to be too ambiguous will just create a very weird situation for this device especially long term.
If this device succeeds to the Switch even if eventually, i'm guessing Nintendo would want to sell it as much as possible even from the get go. Will this device be able to sell 17million units(or close) like its predecessor in its first year? I guess time will tell but if it is goes by the ambiguous route I feel it will certainly not.
How does Nintendo plans to secure adoption of this device from the mass market(not enthusiasts) in its early years(I assume they would want as many people as possible buying it since they will release exclusives for it and third parties too) considering the following thoughts some have mentioned here:
- It will not receive exclusive first party games for at least a year and half
- It will be at least 400$, some say 450$(I actually think either one of those will be the price)
- It will not be called Switch 2(suggesting it is a clear successor) but another name which is ambiguous enough to sound like a more powerful hardware that can be counted as in the same family
- It will still be marketed as part of the Switch family of systems
- Some say it will reuse the OLED body
I'm sorry but I feel there is something off. I am fairly confident such a device as above wouldn't be enough to convince many random people in buying it over the Switch. Imagine: It cost 100-150$ more, has no first party exclusives, is not marketed as the next big thing, looks just like the Switch OLED... Infact it looks more like a revision than something Nintendo would want to last for at least six years. And if it is treated as a revision I'm afraid it will be perceived by the random mass market as such and do revision sales.
If they are perceived too close together despite the gap in performance or 4K patches/versions, the Switch will be its first competitor, stealing its sales which would have been much more beneficial to the new device long term. Some people(not the enthusiasts) who already have a Switch may not even feel the incentive to upgrade. I feel trying to be too ambiguous will just create a very weird situation for this device especially long term.
If this device succeeds to the Switch even if eventually, i'm guessing Nintendo would want to sell it as much as possible even from the get go. Will this device be able to sell 17million units(or close) like its predecessor in its first year? I guess time will tell but if it is goes by the ambiguous route I feel it will certainly not.
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mariodk18
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So I was going through some old tweets and I found this:
They seem to be claiming that Drake will be 7nm, but they don't say what type/kind? Anyone know how reliable this is or where they could've gotten that kind of info? I know Nikki has previously posted leaked info before like the Switch general specs (no clockspeeds) the day of the Switch announcement:
They seem to be claiming that Drake will be 7nm, but they don't say what type/kind? Anyone know how reliable this is or where they could've gotten that kind of info? I know Nikki has previously posted leaked info before like the Switch general specs (no clockspeeds) the day of the Switch announcement:
there's not really any way to tell the node. that's not relevant information to developers
the same plan as MS and Sony are doing: stop advertising old systems, reduce production of old systems, tout the virtues of new systems. Nintendo also has the benefit of third party games likely being drake only rather than coming to Switch, simply through ease of portability.
this isn't an unknown situation and MS and Sony have just gone through it without any sort of problem
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I'd hazard a guess that they ended up doing the same events in the same order as intended, just spread out to fit with the new timeline. So the reveal would have been after E3, the Nintendo Switch Presentation would have been a month or two later, and launch (mid to late November) would have been a month or two after that. E3 was carried by BotW (with a dash of PokΓ©mon), which was already confirmed for NX, so there was no need for a hardware presence there.
Not reliable for anything besides datamining. And I don't think that's even supposed to be insider knowledge there, just repeating some other rumor that may have been bouncing around.
Edit: As for the 2016 tweet, that specific list of specs is from an SDK document leak that happened in October. It was shared around on Twitter but the actual source wasn't any of the accounts posting it. Some may recall that this SDEV photo was also posted at that time.
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Anything in the past 5 days?
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I would say that most of the points you raised apply to the GBC and GBA. Backward compat shored up the library at launch, there were mostly "DX" versions of games in the initial launch window, while there was eventually more and more exclusive software over time. I would say Switch 2 will be closer to GBC, just because games are more expensive and take longer to develop. That doesn't mean there won't be third party exclusives, perhaps even Nintendo published, that make their way to the system.
As for the name...You could say the same of Super, Color, Advance, i, 360, ONE, Series, etc. At the end of the day, the name doesn't sell the hardware- the software does. Enthusiasts and newcomers will prefer the hot, best, new thing and slowly build up enough of an audience over time to where releasing an exclusive MK10 in say late 2024 or 2025 makes sense. I mean, hasn't OLED been the top selling model and selling like hotcakes? How do you think an actually internally upgraded Switch 2 with exclusive games would sell?
Plus it just makes sense when you look at dev schedules. Pokemon gen 10 in 2025/2026? MK10 2024/2025? AC 2026? Splatoon 4 2026/2027? Botw 3 2028/2029?
What system do you think the above titles will release on? Dev times are several years long minimum these days, but you don't want to start from scratch with a new generation every time, as Iwata has said. And if you launch with killer software, like TotK, with exclusive benefits or upgrades...seems like it would sell just fine to me. PS5 and XBS have been selling great the past two years without much in the way of exclusive software after all.
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I don't know Nintendo's strategy but... Nintendo has released a handheld revision every two years almost like clockwork. The Switch, the New 3DS, the 3DS, and the GBA all received a "premium" and a "cheapo" revision at some point in their lifecycles, and until the switch all of them maintained backwards compat. The fact that the New3Ds was a "revision" of the 3DS but had exclusives and got revisions is probably a good indicator to Nintendo's strategy
2023: Retire OLED, replace with $400 Drake. It has a few small exclusives.
2025: Retire base Switch. Replace with 'Drake Slim'. No backwards compat with old Switch games, only the cross gen stuff. Smaller screen. 300 bucks. Most games stop supporting the old Switch, But Nintendo commits to Pokemon for a few more years till...
2027: Lite is retired. It had an incredible run, but it's basically been a pokemon/kirby box for a few years now. Drake Lite comes out. It's been 6 years, process nodes have come along, a redesign/dies hrink of the SOC is possible.
2029: New gen comes out. Drake slim retired. Price cut on base Drake. The cycle continues
The "DS family of systems" had a 13 year run with a version of this strategy.
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Why don't you just post this while your at it:
If you re-read my post, I never mentioned anything about a hardware reveal at the Super Bowl. Just a new logo and a date. Nintendo of America would actually reveal the hardware on their socials.
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Nvidia tends to run multiple products on the same node. The only nodes they have active product lines are Samsung 8nm, TSMC N4, and maybe TSMC 7nm. I say maybe because I have no idea if the A100 is still being made.
TSMC would like 7nm customers to move to 6nm, but I'm not sure how viable a move that is as I believe it is a 100% DUV node. And Samsung recently killed their 7nm nodes, living on their long lived process nodes, and making room for their fully EUV nodes.
At this point I think I find N4 actually more plausible than 7nm.
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Personally I think N4 is more likely than 8nm, but they 8nm is very possible.
My basis for this is that. Yes, this is an "Ampere" GPU. But it's more like Ampere plus. Being made on the Ada Lovelace lines makes more sense (to me). Especially since production and testing lines up with Ada Lovelace's (PCIe tests in May, finalised and produced by September, and that's just the public stuff from the Linux commits.)
That said I still think 7nm or 6nm is possible, too, but as you pointed out, unlikely.
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mariodk18
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Isn't this what oldpuck found (I assume) in the linux commit? What else would "AMPERE_B" mean?
The Linux drop actually wasn't NVidia's only public drop referencing t239, as it turns out. Last month they updated their public GPU docs on github with header files defining constants for all their arches, Fermi-Ampere, and included a doc that lists T239 and T234 as "AMPERE_B" arches.
I don't think there is anything new in the header file that isn't in the NVN2 hack - in fact, since they share a header file, there is no listed difference between Orin's customized Ampere as documented here and Drake's. But worth noting
open-gpu-doc/classes/3d at master Β· NVIDIA/open-gpu-doc
Documentation of NVIDIA chip/hardware interfaces. Contribute to NVIDIA/open-gpu-doc development by creating an account on GitHub.github.com
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Correct. Though I'm going off CUDA version which I believe is 0.1 version higher in T239(Drake) Vs T234(Orin).
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There's a rumour about Nvidia asking TSMC to expedite A100 orders to fulfill as many A100 orders from customers in China before US sanctions take affect on March 2023. Oracle also announced adding thousands of Nvidia GPUs, including the A100, for Oracle's AI cloud infrastructure a couple of months ago. So A100 GPUs are definitely still being manufactured.
TSMC mentioned TSMC's N6 process node's design rules are fully compatible with TSMC's N7 process node design rules, so moving from TSMC's N7 process node to TSMC's N6 process node should be completely viable, especially if the entry level RDNA 2 GPUs are any indication.
And Nvidia mentioned that TSMC's 7N process node's being used for BlueField-3, Quantum-2, and ConnectX-7, with BlueField-3 and ConnectX-7 being 2022 datacentre products for Nvidia.
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1) The reveal will come on Friday, March 3rd, 2023, the announcement leading up to it as a vaguely worded "Commemoration of the Switch on it's 6th anniversary"
1a) If there's no announcement before March 31st, 2023, nothing about this hardware could satisfy anyone in this thread unless it's on some brand new custom SoC that will brute force 4K before DLSS. Also the rest of this list becomes moot and I remove myself from this thread.
2) Launch on Friday, April 28th, 2023 (the day prior to Golden Week in Japan, end of tax return season in North America, two weeks prior to TotK). Trailers for the new Switch will be showcased ahead of the Mario movie during it's theatrical run.
3) $450 USD ($600 CAD)
4) The games showcased will look stellar at first, but once a whiff of specs come out showcasing that it's a little underpowered compared to what was expected, people will be tearing it apart for all its flaws e.g. 12GB RAM, but 8nm SoC.
5) No updated joycons; gulikit Hall Sensors are delayed into Fall 2023 but Nintendo comes at them with a C&D just after E3 for encouraging unauthorized modification of hardware that voids warranty. Drift is here to stay
6) Gamecube NSO will be exclusive to Drake, but won't arrive until 2024. Gameboy/Color series of games will come to NSO base to tide over subscriptions. GBA will be exclusive to EP.
1a) If there's no announcement before March 31st, 2023, nothing about this hardware could satisfy anyone in this thread unless it's on some brand new custom SoC that will brute force 4K before DLSS. Also the rest of this list becomes moot and I remove myself from this thread.
2) Launch on Friday, April 28th, 2023 (the day prior to Golden Week in Japan, end of tax return season in North America, two weeks prior to TotK). Trailers for the new Switch will be showcased ahead of the Mario movie during it's theatrical run.
3) $450 USD ($600 CAD)
4) The games showcased will look stellar at first, but once a whiff of specs come out showcasing that it's a little underpowered compared to what was expected, people will be tearing it apart for all its flaws e.g. 12GB RAM, but 8nm SoC.
5) No updated joycons; gulikit Hall Sensors are delayed into Fall 2023 but Nintendo comes at them with a C&D just after E3 for encouraging unauthorized modification of hardware that voids warranty. Drift is here to stay
6) Gamecube NSO will be exclusive to Drake, but won't arrive until 2024. Gameboy/Color series of games will come to NSO base to tide over subscriptions. GBA will be exclusive to EP.
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Here's what it says when I put it through DeepL:
Is this related to devs wanting 1 GB/s for some kind of storage/ssd speed (I can't remember which type it was)? Does PCI-Express 4.0 mean anything with regards to storage type (UFS, etc.)? What about the "one lane" comment?
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That is just a guess by the general user. It is not a leak.
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"It is said [new information]" sounds like a leak to me, but it could be getting lost in translation (more akin to "I would say that", perhaps?)
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When was the last time a leak came from a JP source that's not the usual Nikkei/Takahasi/Mochizuki/etc.? Like we occasionally get leaks from random places online in the West I feel, but we don't see the JP equivalent of a kopite7kimi, for example.
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The last sentence should have "<2" in it, i.e. "I don't think it's going to be less than 2 lanes."
And yeah, looks like we're doing the thing again where we take other forums'/websites' speculation posts as leaks.
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Alright it won't be an automatic Doom. 8 GB is the absolute minimum we need, but we would again have to sacrifice a beefier/more content OS and longer video recording and other stuff.. Note that this could affect us getting higher quality textures as well. Like 4K textures for switch games. If this thing is going to be in the realm of PS4 Pro, it should get 10-12GB of RAM. Nintendo is pretty good with getting more RAM with their new consoles vs last gen competing consoles. We'll see. The more the future proof it will be. 12 is perfect, and anything more (like 16 GB) is overkill.
Dude, just play it now. Then you can play the DLC with Drake. It's fine in docked mode.
6x more powerful? Ehh More like 4-4.5x powerful in GPU. RAM got a nice bump, while CPU was minor/modest.
Define brand new generation? If we are talking about exclusive 1st party games, that's likely not happening next year consider how the Switch is selling so we'll. Many of us see this as how Sony treats PS4 and PS5. Same 1st party cross support for a number of years, but some exclusives for third parties that aren't possible on the older generation console.
Back when Switch was first coming out, I think it was reported that Nintendo and Nvidia had signed a 10 year partnership deal for hardware? Do we know if thatβs being/has been extended because if we do get a new console in 2024 that could be the last of the partnership right?
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Iβm good. Iβve been playing Splatoon 3 along with beating five or so other games in since it launched. If we hit early next year with no news on Drake Iβll play it. Otherwise Iβll happily wait for a hypothetical resolution boost.
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Can't believe it's been six! years since Eurogamer leaked the clock speeds of the Switch. Time sure does fly...Wonder when we'll get clock speeds for Drake. Going by a similar timeframe would place as towards the end of February, so here's hoping.
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Pretty sure reports said 20 years, although I am not sure it was ever confirmed or officially stated anywhere.
That would align nicely with roughly three SOC generations I guess.
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I'm guessing Feb-March, if Drake comes out in May
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I wish there was any substantial evidence to support a first half of 2023 launch but I fear that Nate will wait until it has become pretty obvious that there isn't going to be new hardware (maybe after the next General Direct) and then reveal his information is that there won't be any new hardware in the first half of the year and that late 2023/early 2024 is now at play continuing the cycle. That being said I want to make it clear that I am NOT putting words into Nate's mouth nor do I know what he knows. It's all pure speculation on my part. Just hoping I'm wrong.
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if there's no smoke by February it'll be obvious it's not coming anytime soon, no need for any further 'confirmation'. best not to be attached to any particular outcomes, methinks. there's clearly a lot going on behind the scenes and plans can change. having said that the swell of Uncles looms and all it takes is a couple to break free in coming weeks to get things fired up again. there was someone who said March is still possible but that has to be totally out of the question by now. money is still on May and if that doesn't happen it's dissapointing on quite a few levels.
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Reggie's profession is marketing. Iwata was literally a developer. There is no reason why he would have the legitimacy to "warn" Iwata on technical matters. I'm not saying this to criticize Reggie at all, he's brilliant in his field. It is also perhaps because he continues to excel in the marketing of his own person today that people continue to invent superpowers for him.
The reason why the Wii U sold ten times less than the Swtich is precisely the absence of great games when it was released. I still don't understand why Nintendo released Skyward Swords so late in the life of the Wii instead of making it a launch title for the Wii U.
Mentionning 2024 or even end of 2023 used to be haram opinions, but I see that we are slowly, but surely, entering that liminal phase where plans must have surely changed and a lot must have happened behind closed doors.
I personnally have no issue with coasting through 2023 with the current Switch, and if that's a indeed Nintendo's intention as I believe it, I have no doubt that we will have a solid year of videogames despite the aging hardware. Additionally, the new generation of console is expected to last much longer than usual due to a combination of factors such as covid and diminishing returns, so Nintendo can in my opinion perfectly release their new console in 2024 without it feeling late/outdated.
I personnally have no issue with coasting through 2023 with the current Switch, and if that's a indeed Nintendo's intention as I believe it, I have no doubt that we will have a solid year of videogames despite the aging hardware. Additionally, the new generation of console is expected to last much longer than usual due to a combination of factors such as covid and diminishing returns, so Nintendo can in my opinion perfectly release their new console in 2024 without it feeling late/outdated.
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Trying to make sense of the Wii U strategy is a lost cause, it didn't even ship with the things you needed to play Skyward Sword.
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... What?
Nothing has changed recently, the idea of early 2023 remains just as accurate to the available evidence as it did 5 months ago.
What exactly are you talking about?
I feel like a lot of people look at the regulars in this thread as some kind of "hopeful idiots" when I'm pretty sure most of us don't even personally care when it releases. We just enjoy following the leaks and evidence and piecing together an aspect of the industry that mostly happens behind closed doors.
The idea that we need to be careful for our mental health is ludicrous, this thread generally happens to have some of the most reasonable and calm people on this site.
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Now you are just making shit upMentionning 2024 or even end of 2023 used to be haram opinions, but I see that we are slowly, but surely, entering that liminal phase where plans must have surely changed and a lot must have happened behind closed doors.
I personnally have no issue with coasting through 2023 with the current Switch, and if that's a indeed Nintendo's intention as I believe it, I have no doubt that we will have a solid year of videogames despite the aging hardware. Additionally, the new generation of console is expected to last much longer than usual due to a combination of factors such as covid and diminishing returns, so Nintendo can in my opinion perfectly release their new console in 2024 without it feeling late/outdated.
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If people think youβre wearing a tinfoil hat for that post I donβt know what to say. Nintendo will want several games releasing around their new hardware outside of Zelda. FF Collection and Hogwarts are great choices considering the current Switch demographic and if I was Mr Bowser Iβd be phoning up Richard from Digital Foundry to do a sponsored video comparison showing the quantum leap in visuals, resolution and framerate between Hogwarts on Switch versus the Drake version (which Iβm predicting will also crush the base Xbox One and PS4 versions in every regard).
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It's split down the middle scaled to 4K for 720p/1080p comparison at same size. Try and see if you can even tell where the shift happens. Here's the gallery with full images of originals and scaled versions.
Responding to the last sentence: That contradicts the link you provided. It has a table showing "PPI to match avg. foveal cone density" at different distances from the eye. It doesn't show a distance of 12", but from the values there we can calculate that it would work out to 546 PPI. For a 7" screen, that would be about 3330x1872.
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Ignore the retina branding for a second, it's just shorthand. It's not about pixel density in an absolute sense, but pixel density across the viewing angle. A screen 5 feet away and a screen 12 inches away are not the same. The Switch screen, 12 inches from your face has the same density as a 70" 4K screen five feet away, for a person with 20/20 vision.
That particular density is above the average number of rods and cones per arcsecond of the field-of-view. Meaning there is a pixel for every light-sensing cell physically in the eyeball.
Trying to measure how I regularly hold my Switch portable (while being overly conscious of it), it's probably more like 16". For that distance, 410 PPI on a 7" screen would match the average cone density at about 2500x1406.
In a world with various DLSS modes, it's no longer necessarily linear. But we're already expecting this machine to easily be able to handle greater resolutions than the previous generation, and plenty of major Switch games maxed out 720p portable, so that's not something I overly worry about.
Get as far away from the screen as you feel comfortable, dude. I'm controlling as many variables as I can. Also, I think the point works better the other way around: You should be more likely to notice bad scaling and discrepancies on these blown up pictures. So if they seem pretty minor here, they're going to seem super minor on a small screen.
Isn't that pretty common comparing OLED panels from a few years apart? Though most of the comparisons I find are kind of old, so I don't know if they've hit a wall by now.
...but why. It's not even like the HD-2D games where rendering resolution could be improved. It would just be throwing itself against Tears of the Kingdom for kicks.
Switch OLED receives 0 exclusive first party games ever, improves performance of 0% of the existing games, came in at $50 more than the 2017 device, and still sold more than the rest of the Switch family over the last year. Repeat that, but with much more significant improvements.
This sounded familiar. Doesn't look like it was anything solid, though, just high hopes.
Nvidia Expects 20-Year Relationship With Nintendo Thanks to Switch
Skyward Sword was built around MotionPlus. Wii U was built around shoving MotionPlus aside in favor of a tablet albatross.
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Of course, but I just don't get how they could have planned a mainline Zelda game without thinking about their next gen. By "Skyward Sword" I mean "the Zelda game that relesed one year before the Wii U launch". I know they struggled a lot with HD, but I still don't understand some decisions.
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Tbf that game was bumped a lot due to COVID and game development trouble I don't think they originally plan a 2023 release. Also, Switch aint a dying/fail system like Gamecube and Wii U so I wouldn't put it past them wanting it to be released before "NSW2" same with MP4.
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Not to nitpick but isn't a quantum leap the smallest possible jump?
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