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StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

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This is what I'm feeling at the current moment:

- Announcement this calendar year

- Reveal February/March

- Launch May/June

I can't wrap my head around a March launch. If I were Nintendo, I'd want Mario Wonder, SMRPG and other titles in the lineup to have plenty of time to bask in the spotlight.



Edit: If the successor is backwards compatible, then I guess the concerns for software are unfounded?
 
Thraktor said:
I can't imagine Nintendo (or Epic for that matter, who must have been closely involved) would want to muddle things by using a non-Epic lighting solution in a UE5 demo. The point of the demo was to show developers "Yes, we can run the full suite of UE5 technologies, including nanite, lumen, hardware RT, etc.", not "We can run some UE5 technologies like nanite, but with a third party solution instead of lumen, and one that isn't officially supported on Xbox and PS".

Besides, as has been discussed before they've got much better RT hardware than PS5 and XBSS/X, which means relatively speaking, it's much cheaper to turn those features on. I'd wager, for the sake of a tech demo to developers, they're going to be more focussed on features than fidelity, so we're probably looking at a version of the game with reduced quality assets, much reduced internal resolution, etc., but with features like RT dialled up emphasise the advantages they do have.
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RTXDI isn't a replacement for Lumen (in fact, they depreciated that for UE5 because Lumen made it redundant).

this is lumen + rtxdi

 
Did Nintendo say they won't launch any hardware this fiscal year or announce it?
 
Skittzo said:
Actually it was even earlier, in 2014 they supposedly helped Nvidia design the chip, or at least had some level of input with them on it.
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This just further discredits the pervasive assumptions about Nintendo's decision-making. Who cares about facts though?
 
I'm thinking
Lancelot said:
If anything, we grossly underestimated Switch's 2 power. As long as these results are indeed 4k/60, that's indeed 11x the pixels per second. Jesus.
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That's only possible due to DLSS which many people always expected so I don't think it was grossly underestimated since the T239 leak.
 
ILikeFeet said:
RTXDI isn't a replacement for Lumen (in fact, they depreciated that for UE5 because Lumen made it redundant).

this is lumen + rtxdi

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Sorry, I misread your post, I thought you wrote RTXGI.

Although If they got the Matrix demo running with RTXDI, then that just pushes expectations even higher. That's what causes Cyberpunk 2077 overdrive mode to crawl on high-end systems, and even if you took out the ReSTIR-GI part and replaced it with Lumen, you're still talking about something that's far more intensive than the original Matrix demo.
 
Armoured_Bear said:
I'm thinking

That's only possible due to DLSS which many people always expected so I don't think it was grossly underestimated since the T239 leak.
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I'm talking in general and the low balls that were often thrown for the clock speeds, but yeah. That's basically better 4K, DLSS at those resolutions essentially beats native.
 
Skittzo said:
Actually it was even earlier, in 2014 they supposedly helped Nvidia design the chip, or at least had some level of input with them on it.
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I think if they did that was extremely limited. Iwata had his "brothers in a family of systems" and "adequately absorb the Wii U architecture" quote in feb 2014, which we know now was project Indy. I imagine the tx1 taped out around then.
 
Thraktor said:
Sorry, I misread your post, I thought you wrote RTXGI.

Although If they got the Matrix demo running with RTXDI, then that just pushes expectations even higher. That's what causes Cyberpunk 2077 overdrive mode to crawl on high-end systems, and even if you took out the ReSTIR-GI part and replaced it with Lumen, you're still talking about something that's far more intensive than the original Matrix demo.
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it could be possible to reduce the number of sampling to speed up the algorithm. technique-wise, restir scales well. sampling lights and pixels can drive the algorithm to a crawl
 
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With the CFExpress talk the last few pages, the more I wish that m.2 had a cartridged format from the start. I had a bad linux install a couple of weeks ago with a distro that I still want to play with - it munched the distro installed on a completely different drive - and I'm probably not going to since it will involve disassembling my computer and temporarily taking out the video card to remove my primary drive in order to protect it from the other OS. How much easier it would be with cartridges.
 
I'll eat a dragon fruit if the Switch 2 releases in March 2024, I just don't see it happening for some reason. A March announcement absolutely.

Maybe we will get more clarification at TGS.
 
Godhound said:
then you sir, and those liked your reply, are badly informed

mynintendonews.com

Nintendo says no new hardware will release this fiscal year, which ends 31st March 2024

Nintendo has confirmed to investors that they have no plans to release any new Nintendo hardware this fiscal year, which ends on 31st March, 2024. It seems fairly reasonable to think that a new…
mynintendonews.com mynintendonews.com
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Nope. They aren't. Mynintendonews is, Though.

Nintendo's specific comments related to their FORECAST, stating that at present their FORECAST does not include anything outside the existing Nintendo Switch devices
 
Serif said:
I listened to the entire thing and frankly, they're more optimistic than most of the people responding to these reports.
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Digital Foundry seems to understand that the hardware won't be bonkers crazy next gen stuff while at the same time realizing DLSS and other tools help make up for it. A lot of other people who don't believe rn don't think the NVidia part of the console matters that much.
 
Godhound said:
then you sir, and those liked your reply, are badly informed

mynintendonews.com

Nintendo says no new hardware will release this fiscal year, which ends 31st March 2024

Nintendo has confirmed to investors that they have no plans to release any new Nintendo hardware this fiscal year, which ends on 31st March, 2024. It seems fairly reasonable to think that a new…
mynintendonews.com mynintendonews.com
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That article is badly informed. Nintendo posts transcriptions, translated into English, of all their investor meetings, including the one where they supposedly said they wouldn't be releasing new hardware this FY. You can read it here. There's no reference to whether they're releasing new hardware or not.
 
Godhound said:
then you sir, and those liked your reply, are badly informed

mynintendonews.com

Nintendo says no new hardware will release this fiscal year, which ends 31st March 2024

Nintendo has confirmed to investors that they have no plans to release any new Nintendo hardware this fiscal year, which ends on 31st March, 2024. It seems fairly reasonable to think that a new…
mynintendonews.com mynintendonews.com
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Maybe instead of insulting me you can actually read the source that information came from and not mynintendonews' interpretation of it-

www.videogameschronicle.com

Nintendo reports Switch sales slowdown and suggests no new hardware this year | VGC

Console sales declined by 22% in the year ended March 31; Company forecasts further 16.5%
www.videogameschronicle.com www.videogameschronicle.com

“We expect Nintendo will not release the next-generation hardware over the next 12 months,” UBS Securities said in a note ahead of the earnings report. “Nintendo’s valuation is very likely to shrink until the launch of the new hardware.”
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We have discussed all of their IR meetings at length in this thread, and nobody has found a single reference to anyone from Nintendo saying no new hardware will be released (or announced) this FY.
 
Dark Cloud said:
They’re going to switch it up. It’s good to do because it’s a new gen
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switch-2-mockup.jpg
 
BowserIsMyFather said:
Yeah, I did edit my post. I'm mostly just joking, but they do have a good point in regards to expectations.
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Of course. It's important to note as they said that impressions of the demo were not quantified, just that some developers thought it looked impressive and that there was RT. But personally I don't care about the nitty-gritty details of how it compares to the current-gen consoles cause it's kind of an unfair comparison. I'm just excited by the idea of Nintendo choosing to demo it in the first place.
 
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