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StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

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ertaboy356b said:
Hot take but what if Nintendo went with ADA Lovelace for battery life. Sure it's powerful but it's also damn efficient.
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The reason Lovelace is more efficient than Ampere is the node difference.
If Drake is on 4N like we think it is, Ampere or Lovelace would make basically 0 difference.
 
Kartina said:
A couple of thoughts:
the fact that nintendo's behind the curtains showcase was focused on loading times, ray-tracing and dlss kind of confirms that the main focus of the next switch won't be some strange new hardware innovations or new way of play, otherwise they would have probably highlighted something like that. It could still have some weird hardware quirks but I don't expect them to be the main focus or selling point just like the joycons were not the main selling point of the switch.
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That's a big assumption, could be that the gimmick will only be really supported by Nintendo at launch and is already known to some devs but not the Gamecom ones.
 
Armoured_Bear said:
I think I'd just explode.

TBH there's no reason why they can't announce it this year.
2023: New Mario Games + others, holiday bundles , maybe even price drop.
++ Look forward to Switch 2 next year.
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Nah, it's definitely certain the Direct won't have anything ReDraketed.

New console announcements (as in new system) always have their own things.
 
Armoured_Bear said:
I think I'd just explode.

TBH there's no reason why they can't announce it this year.
2023: New Mario Games + others, holiday bundles , maybe even price drop.
++ Look forward to Switch 2 next year.
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Sure, this year seems likely if it's really releasing early next year, but they don't traditionally announce hardware in Directs. If they're announcing a new console it'll be in its own dedicated presentation.

And probably won't be before Mario Wonder launches.
 
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kvetcha said:
MVG posits the Matrix demo was using frame generation. :censored:
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Charamiwa said:
It's hard to imagine such an insane and state of the art piece of engineering at only 400 dollars.
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The thing here is, Nintendo has shown the capacity and desire to sell a console for 6+ years without dropping the price, which is kind of a brand new concept. That would allow them to sell it for a bit less up front, if they plan to make up some of the (potential) missed revenue later in its life.

Also nothing about this chip is that exotic, again we've known what was on it since early 2022. It's still a largely cut down Orin, with some amount of customization.
 
If we start hearing its 16GB of LPDDR5X ram then i think high price is likely. Right now, i'm still expecting a $50 to $100 increase over OLED. It may even be the same price as OLED if rumours of the OLED price drop and a general Switch price drop happens.
 
Lancelot said:
Era is in shambles reading these news...

"those points seem a bit too much for a nintendo handheld in 2023".

All the opposite, if that thing could even use frame generation its power ballpark would go up dramatically.
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One day, the internet will understand that having dedicated hardware components for a task ends up doing better results than not having dedicacted hardware components.

Or not.

But at least, one day, the internet will understand what "comparable" means!
 
Unsurprisingly the new information is met with 'impossible' claims despite not presenting anything outlandish.

Looking forward to when goalposts get moved when this thing is revealed and 1080p res for demanding games becomes unacceptable.

(I am not looking forward to it.)
 
bellydrum said:
Yeah I'm thinking $399 at the very least
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Yeah absolutely, if for no other reason than the fact that the OLED model is currently selling for $350 still. They'll want to demonstrate that this thing has more value, even if they do cut the price of existing Switch 1 models when it launches.
 
Serif said:
Unsurprisingly the new information is met with 'impossible' claims despite not presenting anything outlandish.

Looking forward to when goalposts get moved when this thing is revealed and 1080p res for demanding games becomes unacceptable.

(I am not looking forward to it.)
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Oh boy, the first "looks and runs better than" review/tweet will shake up major internet jimmies.
 
How much bigger do you think the Switch 2 will be compared to the current models? Will they be able to fit all of this technology into a size similar to the Switch?
 
Dekuman said:
If we start hearing its 16GB of LPDDR5X ram then i think high price is likely. Right now, i'm still expecting a $50 to $100 increase over OLED. It may even be the same price as OLED if rumours of the OLED price drop and a general Switch price drop happens.
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I'm thinking $399 with OLED going to $299

But if OLED really is heading to €269.99?

Then I expect $364.99-$399.99

For reference, OLED Model launched in Europe at €364.99, so it's not a new price point for them, it would just be standardising it across the Atlantic.

I personally don't see $349.99 or below happening.
 
Serif said:
Unsurprisingly the new information is met with 'impossible' claims despite not presenting anything outlandish.

Looking forward to when goalposts get moved when this thing is revealed and 1080p res for demanding games becomes unacceptable.

(I am not looking forward to it.)
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the only part I have trouble wrapping my head around is the better RT. I know Nvidia has better RT, but it's lacking in power and raw horsepower. we have yet to see Ray Reconstruction in work, so we can't say yet if that's the cause. and we don't have many benchmarks comparing the versions of UE5 to track improvements
 
Bonejack said:
Oh boy, the first "looks and runs better than" review/tweet will shake up major internet jimmies.
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We do have Alien Isolation on Switch already looking better than the PS4 version. Didn't rustle too many jimmies though.
Slash said:
How much bigger do you think the Switch 2 will be compared to the current models? Will they be able to fit all of this technology into a size similar to the Switch?
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It shouldn't need to be any bigger if the SoC node is indeed 5nm or 4nm. But rumors say it'll have an 8 inch screen, so it's likely to be a tad bigger than the OLED model.
 
Wasn’t Nintendo’s official translated comment regarding forecasts that they didn’t factor in any new hardware? In hindsight, that seems suspiciously specific.
 
I wonder if they will follow the same strategy as with the Switch, showing it in October and releasing it on March 3rd.
 
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DariliumA said:
Wasn’t Nintendo’s official translated comment regarding forecasts that they didn’t factor in any new hardware? In hindsight, that seems suspiciously specific.
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It wasn't an official comment anywhere, it was one of the ones a reporter shared after specifically asking. I don't think we know the exact wording.
 
Slash said:
How much bigger do you think the Switch 2 will be compared to the current models? Will they be able to fit all of this technology into a size similar to the Switch?
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Yes. The major constraint in terms of performance is thermals, and if this is on 4N, which it probably is, those thermals would be in the same ballpark as the original Nintendo Switch.

In fact even if it has an 7.81" display, that wouldn't require a larger body than OLED Model. In fact, by no coincidence, it's pretty much the exact limit for a screen to fit on the OLED Model body.

What I'm expecting in terms of formfactor:
A tiny bit thicker (<1mm), a tiny bit wider (<2mm), a screen taking up the vast majority of the front of the device, a wraparound kickstand at the rear, similar sized Joy-Con with taller sticks and rear grips, and more IR motion cameras; one on the rear of the device above where the Nintendo Switch logo is on the original Switch, and one or two on each Joy-Con 2.0.

If they go with a camera on the device, I expect the "lens", the outward facing part, to look like the IR port on a Joy-Con (R), a black window with two lines, like a tiny visor on the back of the console. I wouldn't expect it to be circular and promenant like a tablet camera.
 
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If March 2024 was the actual planned release date, I am going to be so happy. This is honestly the most excited I have been for Nintendo hardware in along time. Them going all in on tech is so exciting, I can't wait to see what Nintendo's artists and designers will be able to do on such hardware
 
Regarding reveal/release, devs would need to know when to prepare demos and trailers for reveal, so it wouldn't be surprising if they were told March in that context.
 
Instro said:
Regarding reveal/release, devs would need to know when to prepare demos and trailers for reveal, so it wouldn't be surprising if they were told March in that context.
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Marketing execs would, devs would not, not 6 months in advance. They'd be told a lot closer to when it was actually revealing.

Now, I'm starting to think it may be when a conference is planned though. A post-reveal conference like Switch had in January 2017.
 
dingbat said:
Between frame generation and DLSS upscaling, is input latency gonna be an issue?
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It's very unlikely to have games with frame generation outside of turn-based or pseudo turn-based games and those games will probably use a modified FSR3.

Xenoblade 3 is just about the only major game to use frame gen under 60 FPS so far. It's not viable yet (though I expect it to be viable in the future).
 
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