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"aggressively persue a multiplatform strategy"
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I would be okay with this. I hope there are multiple colors at launch...This is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
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Huh, that is probably true that they'd show the same demos at TGS only a month later. But more devs seeing the demos may mean more specifics. I think it'd be cool to get harder reports on the res/fps of BotW and Matrix. We can surmise a bit right now, but it'd be nice actually hearing 4k/60 for Zelda and hearing more about the exact settings Matrix was running at
Do you think the next big round of leaks will probably come from developers using dev kits?
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This looks like the Switch if it came out in 2005, and I mean that in the best way possible. Where did this come from?This is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
(Off-topic, but when I get notifications on this forum they're often already marked as read even if I haven't seen them. Is that normal?)
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big PSP (where are these from btw?)This is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
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Aside from a few spots where the shading is a bit weird, and the uncanny screen edge, I gotta say those are pretty damn convincing. And the design overall ain't too shabby.This is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
I'm finally impressed by a fake SuperSwitch, wow
PSPs are from Sony
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Then Elden Ring it is. 4K Witcher would be similar in that case to Cyberpunk, but Baldur's Gate 3 could be another contender.
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It's an obvious fake but at least they tried!This is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
eye0h
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This is kinda exactly what I want now LOL. Bring back the 2000s PSP swag era. Special editions would go so hard
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This bodes well.
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when the Uncrustables hit 😋
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joycons that turn a little bit as you remove them are kind of a neat idea!This is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
I've noticed this, but it only happens if the reply/react is on the current page as I refresh, I guess it sees you're on the page the notification is from so it marks it as read.
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Ratings don’t tend to go out for future consoles like this iirc. But I could totally see this being a title that’s enhanced at launch
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I'm more shocked at WB trying to salvage that mess at all
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(Yeah that's the pattern I noticed too.)
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That's true, and even "same family but only for this model" gets its own listing- ESRB for instance has seperate listings for New Nintendo 3DS games. Though, not New Nintendo 3DS enhanced 3DS games, those are just filed under 3DS.
God that reminds me what a TREAINWRECK the console names were for 3DS. 2DS. "New" Nintendo 3DS.
I have a real deep soft spot for New Nintendo 3DS - it is my favourite handheld, bar none. But wow, the marketing department were NOT awake for the name. I really hope NG Switch has a nice straightforward name like Nintendo Switch 2, or Super Nintendo Switch.
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Nvidia documentation on Orin also lists the DLA as having a different max frequency than the GPU, which suggests they can run at different clocks from each other or why state such...
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I would love to know that, too. I just don't think the odds are great that TGS will help. If journalists are waiting for more sources to confirm before going public, then you'd need them to have sources at both Gamescom, a Western show and TGS an Eastern one. If journalists don't have that info, then it probably wasn't in the presentation at all.
The value of TGS was always that it provided cover for Gamescom stories to come out without being able to pinpoint where they came from. Since the big secret of Gamescom is out, that value has gone down.
Four avenues. Devs using devkits, a marketing partner leaks, Nintendo lets something slip and it gets datamined, or Nintendo announces it themselves.
At this point, my speculation - informed speculation, but still just speculation - is that H1 2024 really might be on the table. In which case I think all of these are equally likely.
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I mean I kinda get that. From a non hardware enthusiast perspective yo rather just want to play new games on a device you already own and love to use instead of getting familiar with something new after like 5 years.
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Love my Switch, but I'm more attached to what it does and its ecosystem, than the physical product. I'm still on OG because while i game portably, its just not important enough for me despite OLED being tempting.
That's why probably BC is my #1 thing. The 2nd most important thing is it has adequate power to deliver the games I want, which is much more than just Nintendo games. I love playing 3rd party games on it, especially strategy and live service.
Giancarlo
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i love Switch, my second favorite Nintendo console behind GC, but i dont first party and third party been held back by the console, i feel Switch has reached all it potencials, now is time for it sucessor
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Yes also lot of people don’t want to deal with buying a new console
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its... not fun. refreshing websites to get a pre-order in to beat the bots.
waiting for the shipment, or checking stores to see if they have it.
setting it up.
If possible i just want to download more power.
if there's one thing I do miss, is some nicely designed interior spaces. since Xenoblade, as a series, is largely defined by its outdoor spaces, I hope their next game, whatever it is, does the inverseThe thought of a Monolith Soft game on powerful hardware...
Can't wait.
ExoticSpice
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One thing is clear, the next handheld from Nintendo WILL be “better” than the Steam Deck.
As I always said, Nintendo are kings in optimisation like Apple. The OS plays a big role in ensuring a smooth overall system and games devs will also have access to Nintendos APIs.
As I always said, Nintendo are kings in optimisation like Apple. The OS plays a big role in ensuring a smooth overall system and games devs will also have access to Nintendos APIs.
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I sincerely hope it's some Horizon: FW level of visual awesomeness, if they can even get close to it from a technical standpoint I'd be a happy man.The thought of a Monolith Soft game on powerful hardware...
Can't wait.
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Or they could go the route of proprietary storage…
I hope they just push SD express.
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That’s why I posted it - I generally consider Imran a sensible journalist and poster, but I couldn’t make much sense out of the statement. What good is a tech demo to developers if it’s not representative of their products capabilities?
It’s one thing to say that tech demos aren’t representative of gameplay - that’s a fair statement. Or even that we’re getting second (or third) hand impressions which could be a bit twisted. But no, he’s implying this is some “pre-hardware” demo, that may be hamstrung by dealing with heat dissipation, form factor and battery. As if Nintendo isn’t keenly aware of these limits when they set out to demonstrate the tech.
Nintendo, a few months later: “Oh shoot sorry we forgot we were making a handheld. Here’s the new targets with battery/heat considerations. Silly us!”
Weird post.
Edit: The only thing that comes to mind is that perhaps he’s had experience with Nintendo demoing things behind the scenes that final hardware didn’t deliver on. Something akin to Twilight Princess vs the Zelda spider tech demo. But even so, would that be a “tech demos look better than games” issue or a “hardware isn’t final” issue? I always assumed the former.
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Nintendo has to push a new format if they want anything faster than what they're currently using. There's no avoiding it.
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I feel the desire to temper expectations and preempt potential disappointment has overreached to the point not quite making sense in context, feeling redundant, or being detached from reality. I've heard more 'there is no way this will match PS5' in the past week than actual claims of this hardware matching a PS5.
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Yeah........ I sincerely hope that the inevitable stock issues are nowhere near as bad as with the PS5, it took me two and a half years to finally get my hands on one. I really REALLY don't want to have to put up with that again.
Wasn't Imran one of the "Mario & Rabbids 2 looks too good for switch" people. He might have deets on games, but interpreting tech and visuals? Probably not his forte
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Y'know, I'm really likin this design even if it is fakeThis is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
It looks MAGNITUDES more comfortable to hold than the base switch, with its curved edges and stuff. The buttons and especially the control sticks look more substantial and better for gaming. And the screen design appears to be an evolution of the switch OLED in terms of being nearly bezel-less (not a big fan of curved displays however).
Those neo joy-cons alone look so comfortable to handle that I wouldn't even need a new pro-controller
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If it's running Ray Tracing, maybe we can assume that Ray Reconstruction is available, otherwise Switch 2 will kill itself running Ray Tracing.
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This is fake, but it's a better mock-up than what's usually used.
I will say besides the bezel-less screen, it looks very convincing, and will fool at least a few folks outside of this humble Forum.
Quite honestly, I don’t mind that design.
Ray reconstruction doesn't make RT run better.
And RT won't kill the Switch. People are overestimating the power necessary for good RT
That’s very likely. On the other hand, the Asian press must have been salivating for their own dev kit stories too. Assuming more Asian developers will have access to Switch 2 info at the TGS, some leaks can still happen, even if just to reaffirm the western reports.
Agreed. Another thing I’d add is that Nintendo might be showing the BotW demo to showcase how developers can build cross-gen Switch games that scale up and down gracefully. I suspect that the Luigi’s Mansion 2 was chosen to be remastered for similar purposes too (cross-gen lighting experiments). You don’t want to ignore an install base of 125MM+ users.
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I do wonder if it will allow them to get satisfactory results with fewer rays.
It doesn't directly improve performance, but, theoretically (if it lives up to it's promises), it could allow devs to get away with using lower ray counts than they'd be comfortable with using a conventional denoiser. Could be the difference between devs choosing to implement RT or not.
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I had a similar thought. One of the things with DLSS before was that you wanted to cast rays in keeping with output resolution instead of input resolution, because the denoiser would prevent DLSS from being able to "find" the higher res detail in the ray casting effects.
It seems, at least from the 10,000 foot view, that DLSS-RR might fix that problem.
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It does make it require less ray tracing so it can run faster. Better than half-assing ray tracing I supposed.
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Cyberpunk has very much taken over the graphical showcase mantle from Crysis, and the raytracing angle would basically check all the boxes. I think that game would be the best possible analogy for Skyrim in that everyone would know it's got next gen power.
Elden Ring is perhaps the best possible game in terms of popularity/power, but since it's FromSoft I put the chances below literally every known western 3rd party developer.
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Cyberpunk is a very intensive game, but it is also a very good way to showcase a system and practically any piece of Nvidia tech.
That being said, Elden Ring would be a better choice overall because of it's popularity, yeah. If I was Nintendo, those two games would be the ones that I'd secure for launch. As for a potential third? Uhhh... how about a game that's a very graphically-dense linear experience. I'm thinking something akin to Alan Wake 2 or something like that. Oh, and that year's Call of Duty title to be safe (at this rate it'll be Modern Warfare 3).
Generally, I think Nintendo's best move would be to show that their system can stand up-to-par with the current gen Xbox and Playstation systems. If Nintendo has one big next-gen title also (which at this rate will be the 3D Mario title) and a whole bunch of third-parties, then that's them set for launch. Comparing the Switch 1 and 2 launches is going to be insane.
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They can get the slower, smaller, cheaper nvmes as they're still pretty fast imo. They don't have to be PS5 nvme fast.
This is a PCIe gen 4 nvme, 256gb, 3300 MB/s speed, at only au$19.
Size seems good enough for Switch and they should be able to get them cheaper bulk purchased.
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