It apparently isn’t an easy thing to nail down. Disregarding the wildly differing generational Nintendo console offerings, and focusing on the rate at which ANY company has had seeming consistent launch success from one generation to the next, the exception would be Sony (excepting the PS3). Looking back there are multitudes of companies failing. Nintendo has indeed had failures (N64,GC, Wii U,) and ironically I believe it has ALWAYS been a “timing” issue.
Exactly. A holiday launch just seems like unnecessary craziness imo
Agree. I love the Prime series, and when Prime Remastered was stealth dropped at the February Direct, I was extatic and bought it immediately. It was number one on the eShop for quite some time and then there was shortages when it released physically a couple weeks later. At that point I believed it stood a chance of outselling the original release on GameCube. So when the financial report came out and Prime Remastered had sold just over a million copies, I knew that demand hasn't gone up at all for the series. If only 1% of Switch users purchased Prime Remastered, how much can we expect from Prime 4? My guess is 3 million units, about the same as Dread.
oh right yeah definitely, I think Metroid Prime 4 is either before or after the Switch 2 launch but not at the same time as 3D Mario (assuming this is the launch title).
3DS hardware seven years ago was doing about 40% of what Switch hardware is doing now. Software, more like a quarter.
6m at launch would be enormous. No game hardware has had a first reported quarter above 4.5m (PS4, PS5). No Nintendo hardware has had a first reported quarter above 3.61m (3DS).
Regarding sales for Prime Remastered, I think we need to take into account the aforementioned shortages as well as the fact that the report accounts for the two months the game has been to market. I'm not trying to move the goalpost or anything, I just think we to a little more fair about it.
Just as likely that part of the reason this remake got greenlit was that nintendo wasn't willing to pay whatever licensing fee Square was demanding to get it on NSO. Note that unlike Virtual Console there are zero Square Enix owned games on NSO.
I wonder if most of the issues are to do with the marketing campaign? Maybe they’ve not even settled on a name yet!
I don't consider the DLC to be a substitute for a new release. Even if Indigo Disk does release next year, TPCi and Game Freak/ILCA(?) would want a new game for 2024, especially if the formula is a remake with a corresponding Legends game.
haha gross
Metroid games tend to be front loaded with sales. 80% of the sames come within the first 8-12 weeks. This isn't limited to Metroid, plenty of other first party Nintendo games operate the same way. Nintendo has true evergreen titles like Mario Kart and Zelda BotW, but not every first party Nintendo game continues to sell at a good clip for the long haul, most do not.
Good point.
Hear me out: there’s a possibility that the Switch 2’s launch year will be full of Mario content. Overkill? Yes. But, why? To take advantage of the Mario movie. Here’s my thought:
My sentiments exactly.
Lines up with what Nate said
Good point.
Hear me out: there’s a possibility that the Switch 2’s launch year will be full of Mario content. Overkill? Yes. But, why? To take advantage of the Mario movie. Here’s my thought:
• Action, Adventure (Platformer?) game? 3D Mario
• Family, Friendsc Party game(s)? Mario Party and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (with all content)
Next Mario Party could be the Successor’s 1-2 Switch.
My sentiments exactly.
Lines up with what Nate said
I really like Grubb, as a journalist, speculator and even as a host. But suggesting Nintendo is unprepared is a little too much.
the next 3D Mario, Metroid Prime 4, a tech demo game that showcase Switch sucessor main apeal, maybe a return of a old IP(like Starfox, 2/3 new franchies for this consoles
during the development of the first Metroid Prime game, the game was planned to be in 3rd person, but after Shigeru Miyamoto saw that Retro Studios was struging with the 3rd person version of Metroid Prime, he sugested im his on unique way, to drop this 3rd person view and then use 1st person
Nintendistas where is Mario Kart 10?Good point.
Hear me out: there’s a possibility that the Switch 2’s launch year will be full of Mario content. Overkill? Yes. But, why? To take advantage of the Mario movie. Here’s my thought:
• Action, Adventure (Platformer?) game? 3D Mario
• Family, Friendsc Party game(s)? Mario Party and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (with all content)
Next Mario Party could be the Successor’s 1-2 Switch.
My sentiments exactly.
Lines up with what Nate said
Good point.
Hear me out: there’s a possibility that the Switch 2’s launch year will be full of Mario content. Overkill? Yes. But, why? To take advantage of the Mario movie. Here’s my thought:
• Action, Adventure (Platformer?) game? 3D Mario
• Family, Friendsc Party game(s)? Mario Party and Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (with all content)
Next Mario Party could be the Successor’s 1-2 Switch.
My sentiments exactly.
Lines up with what Nate said
I think they're still sitting on the option of Oracle remakes. Remaking both and having them in the same game would be a pretty good value. But I certainly wouldn't be opposed to a new 2D game. They'll likely have to outsource it though after the 2D Zelda team got folded into 3D Zelda after ALBW.
His definition of 'transition' isn't really specified either. He might have contacts with lower level marketing that don't know what's going on yet or something lol.
Pairing SS and TP with OOT and WW is a bit weird honestly when the former aren't really all that much like the latter. The former kind of overemphasized on dungeons and narrative comparatively. Also both really deemphasized exploration compared to previous Zeldas now that I think of it.
OOT should be paired with WW and TP, seeing as how they’re both continuations of that game. Both narrative and gameplay wise.
Forgive me as I have not been frequenting this forum anymore but when was the last time Nate gave us like a really solid piece of info?
TP is a continuation in a literal narrative sense but that's about it. It's honestly not much less linear or narrative focused than SS. It just simultaneously wants to pretend to be a spiritual successor to OOT as if OOT was as linear as it is. If anything, SS just doubled down on what TP did but was just alot more honest about what it was so didn't even bother with a typical Zelda overworld.
Sure, but what are they gonna do, make it open world? Do something like that and you basically just changed the entire structure of the game.
The problem with the timing theory is: would it matter if those systems released earlier. The answer is most likely no. N64, GC, & WiiU are all poor products for non-core enthusiast consumers. All those devices have major issues that timing is the least of them. Does anything really change if WiiU was released two years earlier? Maybe it sells a couple million more but the results probably would have been similar.
There is no way they are going to make it open world when the whole reason Prime Remaster looks so good for a switch game it that it uses the same loading zone tricks that the gamecube version used.
Setting aside the cringe horniness it occured to me that there has not been a first person zero suit section, which seems like a great way to introduce an alternative gameplay segment.
Only direct date
if it’s so easy, then why do companies, including Nintendo, regularly fuck it up?
