Because Switch is still going sell, and games might not be readyIf it's skipping Christmas, it's only if they have a very good reason.
If it can launch next March, why miss out on 8 months of Drake sales and wait for next Christmas?
Plus it’ll all be crossgen. I imagine next Zelda and Gen10 Pokemon will be Redacted exclusiveBecause Switch is still going sell, and games might not be ready
Everybody 1-2 Switch
I didn’t wanna say it, but…So Grubb is hearing something from Nintendo in July…
Switch Lite was announced July 10, 2019.
Switch OLED was announced July 6, 2021. ~2 years later.
Switch 2 [fill in the blank]…
edit: those were the wednesday and tuesday of July’s second week. ergo, Switch 2 announcement will be July 11-12.
I so want this to be true, but it's hard to imagine who would know that Nintendo was doing a digital event in July, who wouldn't know if it was a hardware reveal. Grubb has usually gotten his Direct knowledge from publishing partners who know the dates because they have games featured. It seems highly likely that Nintendo is asking around, beginning to compile what's going to show, and giving folks deadlines for providing them with media, hence the implication of a Direct. And if Grubb's source is a decent sized III company, then it wouldn't be clear if it was a Direct or an IndieWorldSo uh..... I've been around the Direct speculation thread and apparently, Jeff Grub is hearing rumblings of something going on with Nintendo in July (through his podcast) and along with the supposed rumor of a digital event (not a Direct) happening soon, it got me thinking: what if that "something" is a digital event for [REDACTED] with the big reveal happening this month? That would leave enough room for a Pikmin 4 Direct, too. Depending on when this hypothetical reveal would happen, SummerGeoffGames Fest could announce some games for it. Then you have to factor in the upcoming shareholders meeting this month and we still don't know what's coming out after Pikmin 4. Suffice to say, I think we're in the final stretch, I may be stretching myself, but I'm still confident!
Not saying my option is the correct or most likely one. I was just saying that there is plenty of room between “Nintendo has nothing for the holiday” and “Nintendo is launching redacted this holiday”Riding out the Switch's life, while hardware and software sales continue to decline, with games that will do little to drive those sales. This is something that Nintendo has struggled with with even their most successful systems, I can't fathom them doing it again when they only have one platform now.
Speaking of Apple's software offerings, Apple seems to prohibit having the finished version of video games run on any API that's not Metal.Process nodes are only one part of the equation with respect to hardware. How hardware's designed is equally as important as which process node is being used to fabricate said hardware.
One example is with the RTX 3070.
Although the RTX 3070 doesn't beat the RX 6800 in terms of performance per watt, the RTX 3070 is still pretty close to the RX 6800 in terms of performance per watt. And the RTX 3070 does beat the RX 6800 in terms of performance per dollar. And although the RTX 3070 consumes more power than the RX 6800 when idling and with multiple monitors, the RTX 3070 does consume less power than the RX 6800 when playing media and playing games. (And remember that Nvidia's using Samsung's 8N process node to fabricate the RTX 3070 vs TSMC's N7P process node for the RX 6800.)
So again, the hardware's design's equally as important as the process node being used to fabricate said hardware.
And I think software is equally as important as hardware. I believe Nvidia's software expertise, as seen with the NVN API, is the major reason for the Nintendo Switch being one of Nintendo's most successful consoles in terms of third party developers. I don't think Apple's software offerings, with respect to video games, is remotely comparable with Nvidia's software offerings, and/or AMD's software offerings.
I can only think of the following:
Apple's GPUs are losing the competitive edge to Qualcomm's GPUs in terms of performance and power efficiency with respect to smartphones, as Geekerwan shows.
- Early access to TSMC's cutting edge process nodes
- Exclusive access to Apple's custom Arm based CPU designs, which are better than what Arm currently offers with respect to Arm's Cortex-A designs
And as I mentioned above, software's equally as important as hardware. And I don't believe Apple's software offerings, with respect to video games, is remotely comparable to Nvidia's software offerings, and/or AMD's software offerings.
So I don't think Nintendo's currently going to gain that much from being acquired by Apple, hypothetically speaking.
I think past instances of this have suggested that third parties (at least at the level the leaks are coming from) aren't necessarily aware of the format the show will take. Assuming that is the case, then the only indication it would be a hardware reveal (or adjacent to one) would be if you're providing Switch 2 footage for it, something that absolutely wouldn't be happening for 100% of the games featured unless Nintendo specifically split up their announcements along those lines.I so want this to be true, but it's hard to imagine who would know that Nintendo was doing a digital event in July, who wouldn't know if it was a hardware reveal. Grubb has usually gotten his Direct knowledge from publishing partners who know the dates because they have games featured. It seems highly likely that Nintendo is asking around, beginning to compile what's going to show, and giving folks deadlines for providing them with media, hence the implication of a Direct. And if Grubb's source is a decent sized III company, then it wouldn't be clear if it was a Direct or an IndieWorld
A lot of coordination goes into a console launch. Moving them without good reason is costly and liable to annoy third party publishers. Not to mention that a Switch 2 early adopter is much more valuable to Nintendo wrt software sales than a Switch 1 late adopter.Honestly if I were Ninty and I had a console that could feasibly make it for holiday 2023. I don't know that I wouldn't plan for March-May 2024 (and announce in Jan/Feb) just to get those sweet switch 1 final holiday sales. I'd go further to say even if I had say Mario kart 9 near-ready, I'd resell an enhanced MK8 port and then have MK9 be a 2024 holiday title. Maybe that's short sighed of me, but if I just want to maximise revenue in the short term, why not?
Oh believe me, it will.As long as consoles remain, this will never happen.
I take your point, but I just find it inconceivable that Nintendo would announce REDACTED and mix it in with third party announcements for non-cross-gen, base Switch titles. While Nintendo may want to indicate continued Switch support, it would be bad for the third parties who are either blasted out of the conversation by a new hardware launch, or who consumers conflate those titles with REDACTED games, damaging both the games and the console.I think past instances of this have suggested that third parties (at least at the level the leaks are coming from) aren't necessarily aware of the format the show will take. Assuming that is the case, then the only indication it would be a hardware reveal (or adjacent to one) would be if you're providing Switch 2 footage for it, something that absolutely wouldn't be happening for 100% of the games featured unless Nintendo specifically split up their announcements along those lines.
To some degree, it depends on what you mean by "hardware announcement". If you strictly mean the trailer where the hardware itself gets announced, then that will probably be a Switch 2 only affair where everyone involved knows what's going on, but I'm also expecting that to be similar to the Switch 1, where the reveal is a standalone trailer focused entirely on the hardware with little game focus and very little third party involvement in general. The actual meat of the presentation where games are talked about would only happen a week or two later, and could feasibly just be a normal Direct.I take your point, but I just find it inconceivable that Nintendo would announce REDACTED and mix it in with third party announcements for non-cross-gen, base Switch titles. While Nintendo may want to indicate continued Switch support, it would be bad for the third parties who are either blasted out of the conversation by a new hardware launch, or who consumers conflate those titles with REDACTED games, damaging both the games and the console.
If E3 were happening, then I'd lend it more credence. In the context of E3, there are a number of people who might know about a Nintendo event without knowing what it is. There is room for Nintendo to be contacting non-developers and letting them know about schedules, so Grubb might have a non-dev source. But in an era without the need to buy floor space, coordinate with physically present press, or cross-promote with an ongoing event, then the only likely source is a dev, and I think the leap from "Nintendo is asking devs for Direct material" to "hardware announcement" is huge even if you accept that Nintendo might mix the two.
I just think that Nintendo usually needs 3-5 presentations a year to show off games, and when E3 doesn't exist, they don't have to schedule around it, so why not do it after Pikmin rather than before?
I think Nintendo has lots of options, but it seems - and maybe I've lost the thread a little here - like we're going around our ass to get to our elbow to see how two hints of a Direct indicate a hardware launch announcement.To some degree, it depends on what you mean by "hardware announcement". If you strictly mean the trailer where the hardware itself gets announced, then that will probably be a Switch 2 only affair where everyone involved knows what's going on, but I'm also expecting that to be similar to the Switch 1, where the reveal is a standalone trailer focused entirely on the hardware with little game focus and very little third party involvement in general. The actual meat of the presentation where games are talked about would only happen a week or two later, and could feasibly just be a normal Direct.
Now with that said, I'll definitely entertain the idea that Nintendo would split up the announcements and do an "extra" 4th general Direct entirely focused on games that will run natively on the new hardware, but I don't really see much benefit in doing it after Pikmin specifically, as that game is likely to feature, albeit briefly. This is sort of what I was mentioned in the Direct thread as a "Direct sandwich" where they first do a normal Switch 1 summer Direct, then do the hardware announcement, then do a second, entirely Switch 2 Direct.
Lumen-style screen-space caching and restir gi for low end hardware. Don't let anyone tell you ray tracing is only for high end devices
320x180 res ray tracing, let's go!
Personally, I'm not putting tons of stock into the specific rumblings at this point anyway, I'm just pretty confident that Nintendo has things to announce this year because the situation is pretty materially different and their schedule up to this point isn't signalling a sharp dropoff. They can't really do the same thing they did last year because they didn't do the necessary setup that they built off of to make that schedule work.I think Nintendo has lots of options, but it seems - and maybe I've lost the thread a little here - like we're going around our ass to get to our elbow to see how two hints of a Direct indicate a hardware launch announcement.
It wasn't a fun hype cycle last year when, at around this time, the rumor "Nintendo doesn't have a lot to announce right now and they'll do some smaller digital events" turned out to not be evidence of new hardware but evidence of... exactly what it said it was. We got a Partner Showcase on June 28th - within spitting distance of July.
I would love for this to be The Moment, but in as much as there is any kind of rumbling at all it seems to be "Nintendo doing same kinda thing they did last year for the same kinda reasons."
The GPU clock of 1.125GHz for 3.456TFLOPs is pretty likely. Thraktor has convinced me that they are using TSMC 4N through his logical arguments, and that is enough to hit that sort of performance docked.How likely do you think this is at happening? The pessimist in me wants to say that this is really pushing it, but the tech bro in me wants to say "Nintendo pls"
XBSS should have more CPU power and memory power, it will even have more raw GPU performance, but Drake should offer more advanced feature set, RT cores, Tensor cores (DLSS), which should allow it to run games at the same resolution or higher than Series S. I also don't think CPU bottlenecks will really exist if Thraktor is right about TSMC 4N, which would allow them to use a 2GHz clock or better fairly easily.drake ain't gonna match the Series S
Yep, I hope my post came off as a bit of a trade off, it will do some things better than XBSS, but not everything. I do think that it might have better ports though, since XBSS is sort of an after thought to the Xbox platform and Drake is target box for Nintendo once it releases.It's (more) complicated (than that).
I think it really doesn't matter if the hardware launches Q3 or Q4, it's not a big deal. I'd expect new hardware in both quarters frankly. A new entry Switch in one quarter, and Drake powered Nintendo hardware in the other. If we look at the lead up to NX's full reveal as the Switch, it was in the works from Spring 2014 and revealed in holiday 2016 with a 4 and a half month advance on it's release. Drake has been in the works since ~Spring 2020, with a reveal next month, it would have 4+ months before release much like Switch had. No one knew about the new 3D Mario game, and while Miyamoto has said we can expect it, we don't actually have rumors about it, it's just a thing that is happening. It also wouldn't make sense for TotK DLC to miss this new hardware IMO.I think Nintendo has lots of options, but it seems - and maybe I've lost the thread a little here - like we're going around our ass to get to our elbow to see how two hints of a Direct indicate a hardware launch announcement.
It wasn't a fun hype cycle last year when, at around this time, the rumor "Nintendo doesn't have a lot to announce right now and they'll do some smaller digital events" turned out to not be evidence of new hardware but evidence of... exactly what it said it was. We got a Partner Showcase on June 28th - within spitting distance of July.
I would love for this to be The Moment, but in as much as there is any kind of rumbling at all it seems to be "Nintendo doing same kinda thing they did last year for the same kinda reasons."
Has there been some new rumblings from our Funcles that Mass production could be starting soon?I think it could be real if we take into consideration that:
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"something" or a direct? because it could just be a partner showcase. they have shown they aren't opposed to doing that in july.So Grubb is hearing something from Nintendo in July…
Switch Lite was announced July 10, 2019.
Switch OLED was announced July 6, 2021. ~2 years later.
Switch 2 [fill in the blank]…
edit: those were the wednesday and tuesday of July’s second week. ergo, Switch 2 announcement will be July 11-12. "
"something" or a direct? because it could just be a partner showcase. they have shown they aren't opposed to doing that in july.
Same, with the exception that they've refreshed the OG Switch from 2017 in 2019 (Lite) and 2021 (Swoled), implying new hardware in 2023. Of course, that's not a lot of data points to make a pattern, and patterns are only useful until they're not (yearly Zelda comes to mind).I would love for this to be The Moment, but in as much as there is any kind of rumbling at all it seems to be "Nintendo doing same kinda thing they did last year for the same kinda reasons."
"something from Nintendo" is probably just a direct imo.So Grubb is hearing something from Nintendo in July…
Switch Lite was announced July 10, 2019.
Switch OLED was announced July 6, 2021. ~2 years later.
Switch 2 [fill in the blank]…
edit: those were the wednesday and tuesday of July’s second week. ergo, Switch 2 announcement will be July 11-12.
A Direct full of sweet fuck all, then."something from Nintendo" is probably just a direct imo.
I still believe they have a surprise or 2.A Direct full of sweet fuck all, then.
My hope for new games is at dangerously unlethal levels, even WITH a new console. I have no idea what a Direct for Switch 1 games could be except remakes...I still believe they have a surprise or 2.
Has there been some new rumblings from our Funcles that Mass production could be starting soon?
Remakes, HD Remasters, DLC and maybe the introduction of HD Remastered 3DS games?My hope for new games is at dangerously unlethal levels, even WITH a new console. I have no idea what a Direct for Switch 1 games could be except remakes...
Metroid Prime 4, new 2d mario maybe.My hope for new games is at dangerously unlethal levels, even WITH a new console. I have no idea what a Direct for Switch 1 games could be except remakes...
Dunno where some people read that Grubb said it's some Nintendo event, from what i gathered the talk was definitely on it being a Direct, just unsure what kind of.
If it's a Direct, then it'll very likely not have anything to do with hardware at all. Evenmoreso if it's a Mini or Partner Showcase.
Though, for the sake of discussion, i'll just say that, imo, July would be the last opportunity for ReDraketed to be announced for a CY 2023 release.
'Cause even if you're trying to keep a short timeframe between announcement and release, you'd want at least 5-6 months for marketing.
No hardware announcement in July means it's definitely a CY 2024 thing.
Sega dreamcast 2A hiring ad for "Next-Gen Console Development for a Game Company in Kyoto"
I wonder who lol.
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The nature of leaks is pretty volatile as it is, so I wouldn't use that as some indication of whether something is happening or not. Especially if said leaks aren't verifiable. Hell, even the funcles seem dubious at times.I wish there was more smoke about an upcoming hardware reveal in general but sadly, I can't be too optimistic for this month or even July
Or Nintendo has just reached a whole new level of keeping things secret, preventing leaks from about everywhere.
If it's been something like this for quite long, I can't imagine the relief for all parties involved once they reveal it.
But I don't think even Nintendo could lock things so much for long enough, there should be much more smoke, and Jeff Grubb hearing rumblings about a Nintendo thing in July is way too few smoke to me.
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It's all coming together.A hiring ad for "Next-Gen Console Development for a Game Company in Kyoto"
I wonder who lol.
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Lumen-style screen-space caching and restir gi for low end hardware. Don't let anyone tell you ray tracing is only for high end devices
320x180 res ray tracing, let's go!
Here we go! Finally some real smoke.A hiring ad for "Next-Gen Console Development for a Game Company in Kyoto"
I wonder who lol.
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I've already seen some people think this is telling of the system timing it really isn'tA hiring ad for "Next-Gen Console Development for a Game Company in Kyoto"
I wonder who lol.
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