StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

[chocolate_supra]

Doubt it, fighting games and cloud gaming are the worst possible combo.

And the best possible combo?
↓ ↘ →P

 

[John Omaha]

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For me it's not even a hand size issue. A lot of smaller details, some of which have an impact on gameplay, simply get lost on the Switch's screen. I suspect this will become an even bigger issue as more powerful hardware pushes Nintendo even further towards home console style games.

 

[ILikeFeet]

That's a fair concern and a good point. The reason why I discounted the Aya Neos and ASUS ROG Allys of this world is #1 volume #2 business model. These laptop PCs in a Switch-like casing usually take off the shelf parts and cram it into a design and they're positioned as niche premium products. I don't even see Steamdeck being high enough in volume for Sharp to be involved, in anycase, all these manufacturers would be better served just taking advantage of the competitive LCD landscape and find a low bidder

The only potential contender here is Sony or maybe Microsoft. But the reason why I settled with Nintendo is the fact that this unnamed manufacter going out of its way to work with SHARP suggests the display will be proprietary in some way, and while I hope it's not another gimmick, what comes to mind immediately that isn't a primary concern for most other manufacturers in this space is power consumption. And that would be something Nintendo wants. And Nintendo has had a history of working with LCD manufacturers for their screens.

All that said, I agree, Mochi may be taking another leap into the abyss, but I'll fall into the pit with him on this one if he is wrong again.

it could be possible that Sharp is really just making OLED panels and Mochi attached nodes incorrectly again. or Sharp was given an early production test. there are a lot of things I think could fill the wholes

or I'm just coping because the idea that a more expensive product regressing in some areas is genuinely ludicrous to me. and you can't even "because nintendo" that because they literally never done that before

 

[Gay Bowser]

The next Switch isn't going to be a 4 TF machine so it is by default going to use lower quality assets. The PS5 and Series X have 16 GB of RAM. It would be an overspend to put that much RAM. The Series S is going to be a strong machine regardless of what Nintendo does. DLSS will help image quality but you're going to have a weaker CPU/GPU/storage solution and more limited bandwidth.

12 GB would be more than fine.

Honestly, I’d go in expecting 8GB and be pleasantly surprised with anything more.

I agree. I think that 15m number is really cocky with their (likely) tepid H2 software lineup.

Well, maybe they know their H2 software line-up isn’t tepid?

 

[Goodtwin]

Well, maybe they know their H2 software line-up isn’t tepid?

No question. I have a feeling 2023 is going to end up one of the best software years for Switch since 2017. The question remains why have they been so tight lipped on what is coming beyond Pikmin 4 in July? My theory for quite some time has been that they want to announce the next wave of titles alongside the new hardware, but there is a lot of skepticism that new hardware is coming this year. So if no new hardware is coming, I would love to hear a good theory on why we have no dated titles for six out of the twelve months this year? Nothing for June, and I can see why they might give Zelda the spotlight for a second month, but nothing announced for August through December? I feel like Nintendo is going to shock us one way or the other.

 

[Gay Bowser]

or I'm just coping because the idea that a more expensive product regressing in some areas is genuinely ludicrous to me. and you can't even "because nintendo" that because they literally never done that before

the 3DS’s bottom screen ignored the size increase that Nintendo gave the DSi and went back to being as small as the one on the DS Lite, despite the 3DS’s substantially higher price and “premium” positioning at launch

the Switch lacks camera(s)/mic(s), being the first new Nintendo hardware in a decade to do so, despite being close to double the cost of the DSi released 9 years prior

 

[TSR3]

My reading isn’t quite so bleak!

I'd rather think of myself as realistic, rather than bleak. The translated Q & A's were less ambiguous than I expected, and left little room for a surprise this calendar year. Remember, these are answers to investors - while Nintendo avoided announcing anything concrete, their statements did place bounds on what would happen within certain times ...

Oh it can. Not saying it will, but seeing as how Switch was shown off for the first time in October 2016 and then released in March 2017 says that they can absolutely have a short turnaround from reveal to release, and its been even shorter with revisions like the Lite and OLED. Its not like them giving us a code name for the next hardware means much, we all agree that Nintendo has been working on new hardware for quite some time. This may not turn out to be relevant, but it might be, so I will ask you or anyone really, it is May 12th 2023 and we only have one first party title from Nintendo dated for release. A console in its seventh year on the market and we do not know what titles are coming out later this year. Why is Nintendo being so secretive about the second half lineup? They obviously have things to show off of they wouldn't be going to Gamescom.

Why not?

... I'm not saying it is impossible that Nintendo would pull a rabbit out of a hat, but it would contradict the guidance that they have just given investors. Here are two significant quotes from the Q & A (with my emphasis):

From Q4 (about player numbers) "...we believe that how we maintain a high level of consumers actively playing Nintendo dedicated video game platforms while transitioning to the next generation of hardware will be a very important topic going forward. However, at this stage, we believe that our top priorities are maintaining and expanding the utilization of Nintendo Switch, which has entered its seventh year since launch, and maintaining business momentum."

From Q6 (about sales decreases) "...The Super Mario Bros. Movie and we also plan to release the latest entry in The Legend of Zelda series, which contribute to the acceleration in the Nintendo Switch business that we are working towards in its seventh year since launch. Our aim is to leverage this momentum into maximizing sales during the holiday season to achieve our sales plans"

So the rest of 2023 is about building on the momentum built in Q2 to maximise sales of the Nintendo Switch business, and for the whole of the fiscal year the Nintendo Switch is a top priority. Once I read those two replies I knew they all but ruled out a release in 2023, and also ruled out a launch (announcement) in 2023 as well.

Edit PS if it's any consolation, I think we can be excited about games to come 2H this year

 

[Mobius]

So a small update to this:

Chapter 5 is supposedly starting November/December

And the wizard game that we are not allowed to mention on famiboards has just been delayed to November

 

[TSR3]

And the wizard game that we are not allowed to mention on famiboards has just been delayed to November

Maybe they've been held back until the holiday season?

 

[D36]

I'd rather think of myself as realistic, rather than bleak. The translated Q & A's were less ambiguous than I expected, and left little room for a surprise this calendar year. Remember, these are answers to investors - while Nintendo avoided announcing anything concrete, their statements did place bounds on what would happen within certain times ...



... I'm not saying it is impossible that Nintendo would pull a rabbit out of a hat, but it would contradict the guidance that they have just given investors. Here are two significant quotes from the Q & A (with my emphasis):

From Q4 (about player numbers) "...we believe that how we maintain a high level of consumers actively playing Nintendo dedicated video game platforms while transitioning to the next generation of hardware will be a very important topic going forward. However, at this stage, we believe that our top priorities are maintaining and expanding the utilization of Nintendo Switch, which has entered its seventh year since launch, and maintaining business momentum."

From Q6 (about sales decreases) "...The Super Mario Bros. Movie and we also plan to release the latest entry in The Legend of Zelda series, which contribute to the acceleration in the Nintendo Switch business that we are working towards in its seventh year since launch. Our aim is to leverage this momentum into maximizing sales during the holiday season to achieve our sales plans"

So the rest of 2023 is about building on the momentum built in Q2 to maximise sales of the Nintendo Switch business, and for the whole of the fiscal year the Nintendo Switch is a top priority. Once I read those two replies I knew they all but ruled out a release in 2023, and also ruled out a launch (announcement) in 2023 as well.

Edit PS if it's any consolation, I think we can be excited about games to come 2H this year

I understand this logic, but it's not like that rules out releasing new hardware this year and as I stated earlier, they can still achieve that result even with new hardware.

 

[D36]

I understand this logic, but it's not like that rules out releasing new hardware this year and as I stated earlier, they can still achieve that result even with new hardware.

I don't think Drake would harm the Switch's sales that much during its launch period, especially if there's cross-gen and if it's ~$400. I don't think that the majority of the average consumer is willing to upgrade immediately to a more expensive product that can play more or less the same games as the cheaper, more readily available alternative. I foresee Drake being sold as a premium product for at least the first two years of it's life, so that would give Switch a little more room to breath and to slowly ease Switch owners into upgrading, while enthusiasts and other early adopters do the heavy lifting in terms of sales.

 

[10k]

You are me.

A person of culture.

Not true! I know at the very least load times seem very much improved. And maybe my old Switch was just jacked but I swear the OLED drops less frames too.

Placebo effect.

 

[Gotdatmoneyy]

There is no way with the forecasted hardware a successor is releasing this year. I really don't understand why anyone still wants to harp on this. The Q&A makes it clear the Switch is the focus for this fiscal year. They clarify no new hardware is baked into the forecast. They clarify it will be difficult to reach 15m. They set 180m software target which could only bebreached if they have big titles lined up.

There is 0 reason to believe new hardware is relasing in 2023. You would have to ignore everything to believe otherwise.

 

[MP!]

Wizard Game's Switch port was delayed to November. Doubt it means anything for a Switch 2, but what if?

It’s gonna be cloud though lol

Yeah ... gonna say no on both of these

 

[TSR3]

I understand this logic, but it's not like that rules out releasing new hardware this year and as I stated earlier, they can still achieve that result even with new hardware.

OK, so I've gone back and read your post ...

I don't think Drake would harm the Switch's sales that much during its launch period, especially if there's cross-gen and if it's ~$400. I also don't think that the majority of the average consumer is willing to upgrade immediately to a more expensive product that can play more or less the same games as the cheaper, more readily available alternative. I foresee Drake being sold as a premium product for at least the first two years of it's life, so that would give Switch a little more room to breath and to slowly ease Switch owners into upgrading, while enthusiasts and other early adopters do the heavy lifting in terms of sales.

... which I missed the first time. And it's a really good argument, and I totally agree with Drake being the new premium and Switch holding the mid and budget slots for a couple of years. BUT, I've now read that translated Q & A a couple of times, and it just seems to me Nintendo have decided to go for one final season with the Switch. I can now understand the financial analysts reactions earlier in the week, and also the general scepticism among some of the informed commentators about a 2023. Previously I held to 2023 because there was still lots of evidence to support it, and also the lack of actual evidence supporting 2024 (beyond the vague scepticism). This Q & A changes the balance for me. For better or worse, Nintendo have now pointed the way. I could be reading them wrong, but I now think the balance of probabilities is for 2024.

 

[jzero]

The dream is alive.

exactly what came to my mind

 

[arsen]

There is no way with the forecasted hardware a successor is releasing this year. I really don't understand why anyone still wants to harp on this. The Q&A makes it clear the Switch is the focus for this fiscal year. They clarify no new hardware is baked into the forecast. They clarify it will be difficult to reach 15m. They set 180m software target which could only bebreached if they have big titles lined up.

There is 0 reason to believe new hardware is relasing in 2023. You would have to ignore everything to believe otherwise.

I mean, did you expect them to give a hint or announce that they are going to release a new hardware soon in this Q&A?

And I say that as someone who is now more toward 2024.

 

[Ghostsonplanets]

Placebo effect.

Not if they're coming from a launch unit. The tighter timings of LPDDR4x does help to keep a more stable frametime with some titles. If they're coming from a V2/Lite, then it's really placebo.

 

[10k]

this but with analogs for Switch 2 Pro Controller

 

[Johna X]

If it's bigger than it will obviously not be BC with Labo and Ring Fit, but I don't think Nintendo cares about them.

Ring Fit sold 10mil+
why would they not care

 

[MP!]

this but with analogs for Switch 2 Pro Controller

I'll take that six month battery life again PLEASE

 

[Skittzo]

There is no way with the forecasted hardware a successor is releasing this year. I really don't understand why anyone still wants to harp on this. The Q&A makes it clear the Switch is the focus for this fiscal year. They clarify no new hardware is baked into the forecast. They clarify it will be difficult to reach 15m. They set 180m software target which could only bebreached if they have big titles lined up.

There is 0 reason to believe new hardware is relasing in 2023. You would have to ignore everything to believe otherwise.

Tbh the fact that he explicitly said no new hardware is baked into the forecast is the only thing still making me think this FY is possible. It's an odd thing to say, unless it was something they were specifically asked.

And if they do wind up releasing something this year they'll just put out a separate forecast for that, and stay true to the "new hardware isn't factored into our forecast" thing.

 

[Dakhil]

What Furukawa says about rising costs makes you think about a possible use of an LCD screen even if I have trouble imagining Nintendo going back on OLED technology.

I continue to hope for an announcement of the switch 2 in early 2024 with a release at the beginning of the next fiscal year. I don’t see why new hardware couldn’t come out outside the end of the year.

I don't know if Nintendo's really saving money by going for LCD vs OLED for a ≥7" display since most devices using a ≥6" display seem to be using OLED vs LCD.

But as I've mentioned before, I think there's a possibility Nintendo could be using LCD for a Lite model equipped with Drake, especially if Nintendo wants to continues to offer an affordable model (after Nintendo clears off enough inventory for the Nintendo Switch (2019), the Nintendo Switch Lite, and the OLED model), and if there's a possibility LCD is cheaper than OLED for <6" displays.

And I don't think anyone's saying Nintendo releasing new hardware after 2023 is off the table. (I think the majority of people here think Nintendo's going to release new hardware after 2023). I think people are saying that a holiday 2023 launch is not off the table yet.

 

[mjayer]

OK, so I've gone back and read your post ...

... which I missed the first time. And it's a really good argument, and I totally agree with Drake being the new premium and Switch holding the mid and budget slots for a couple of years. BUT, I've now read that translated Q & A a couple of times, and it just seems to me Nintendo have decided to go for one final season with the Switch. I can now understand the financial analysts reactions earlier in the week, and also the general scepticism among some of the informed commentators about a 2023. Previously I held to 2023 because there was still lots of evidence to support it, and also the lack of actual evidence supporting 2024 (beyond the vague scepticism). This Q & A changes the balance for me. For better or worse, Nintendo have now pointed the way. I could be reading them wrong, but I now think the balance of probabilities is for 2024.

The thing is... this is what they very purposely WANT EVERYONE TO BELIEVE SO THEY SELL MORE SWITCH 1s.... I'M NOT YELLING.

 

[D36]

There is no way with the forecasted hardware a successor is releasing this year. I really don't understand why anyone still wants to harp on this. The Q&A makes it clear the Switch is the focus for this fiscal year. They clarify no new hardware is baked into the forecast. They clarify it will be difficult to reach 15m. They set 180m software target which could only bebreached if they have big titles lined up.

There is 0 reason to believe new hardware is relasing in 2023. You would have to ignore everything to believe otherwise.

I'm still harping on it because Furukawa's comments neither confirm nor deny this CY for Drake as it could still come out independent of Nintendo's forecast. I'm not ignoring anything as, imho this fiscal report changes nothing. Besides, why would Furukawa make any indication of new hardware at an investors meeting in a time where Nintendo doesn't even need to do that, like with the Switch?

 

[bayonetta]

I don't know if Nintendo's really saving money by going for LCD vs OLED for a ≥7" display since most devices using a ≥6" display seem to be using OLED vs LCD.

But as I've mentioned before, I think there's a possibility Nintendo could be using LCD for a Lite model equipped with Drake, especially if Nintendo wants to continues to offer an affordable model (after Nintendo clears off enough inventory for the Nintendo Switch (2019), the Nintendo Switch Lite, and the OLED model), and if there's a possibility LCD is cheaper than OLED for <6" displays.

And I don't think anyone's saying Nintendo releasing new hardware after 2023 is off the table. (I think the majority of people here think Nintendo's going to release new hardware after 2023). I think people are saying that a holiday 2023 launch is not off the table yet.

can the LCD screen benefit battery life ?
or its a non-factor?

 

[robertman2]

this but with analogs for Switch 2 Pro Controller

this is the worst layout for sticks tbh

 

[TomNookYankees]

Honestly, I’d go in expecting 8GB and be pleasantly surprised with anything more.

Anything less than 10GB would be really bad because it would likely mean having less than 8GB for games when you take into account the OS.

 

[ziggyrivers]

can the LCD screen benefit battery life ?
or its a non-factor?

I think OLED is better for battery. If I’m
Not mistaken

 

[TomNookYankees]

this is the worst layout for sticks tbh

I’d argue it’s the best layout for dual analog controls. Upper portions of controllers are the more relaxed position for thumbs.

 

[Paxie]

Honestly the Nikkei report did more to push me into #Team2024 than the fiscal year result, assuming the former is true and combining it with latter makes it pretty clear we're at most only getting a reveal in the Fall

 

[carbonaxiom]

I think this has been mentioned at various times over the course of this thread, but the situation where a new hardware release dramatically causes old hardware sales to fall is one that Nintendo is likely trying to avoid. Whatever forecasts they release will assume that they can keep original Switch sales going even in light of a new device being announced. I think they'll do that by marketing the new device as just a better, more expensive Switch, and then gradually phase out older Switches over time while adding in new models, like a new Switch Lite.

 

[MP!]

I’d argue it’s the best layout for dual analog controls. Upper portions of controllers are the more relaxed position for thumbs.

agreed I was pretty bugged they went with Xbox layout after classic controller pro having Sony layout and Wii U having dual up top...
I've had to readjust every time haha
I'll say this... dual thumbsticks up top is the most natural feeling layout due to how the thumbs naturally fall in that position.
(Even if you have to rewire your brain to go down to find buttons)

 

[Pokemaniac]

So a small update to this:

Chapter 5 is supposedly starting November/December

I don't follow Fortnite at all. How significant is it that they predicted the number of seasons in Chapter 4?

 

[boodream]

I don't know if Nintendo's really saving money by going for LCD vs OLED for a ≥7" display since most devices using a ≥6" display seem to be using OLED vs LCD.

But as I've mentioned before, I think there's a possibility Nintendo could be using LCD for a Lite model equipped with Drake, especially if Nintendo wants to continues to offer an affordable model (after Nintendo clears off enough inventory for the Nintendo Switch (2019), the Nintendo Switch Lite, and the OLED model), and if there's a possibility LCD is cheaper than OLED for <6" displays.

And I don't think anyone's saying Nintendo releasing new hardware after 2023 is off the table. (I think the majority of people here think Nintendo's going to release new hardware after 2023). I think people are saying that a holiday 2023 launch is not off the table yet.

I thought it was clear I was talking about 2024
.

 

[Dakhil]

can the LCD screen benefit battery life ?
or its a non-factor?

I think the effect a type of display being used has on battery life is rather minimal.

I think that the SoC and the battery size have a much bigger impact to battery life than the type of display, considering the battery life increased from 2.5 - 6.5 hours with the Nintendo Switch (2017) to 4.5 - 9 hours with the Nintendo Switch (2019), thanks to switching from the Tegra X1 to the Tegra X1+, and the OLED model's battery life's the same as the Nintendo Switch (2019)'s life at 4.5 - 9 hours according to Nintendo.

I think OLED is better for battery. If I’m
Not mistaken

That's not necessarily always true. OLED displays can consume more power than LCD displays at higher peaks of brightness.

I thought it was clear I was talking about 2024
.

Ah, I'm sorry. But I don't think I've heard anyone here say a launch after 2024 is impossible.

 

[Goodtwin]

I've now read that translated Q & A a couple of times, and it just seems to me Nintendo have decided to go for one final season with the Switch. I can now understand the financial analysts reactions earlier in the week, and also the general scepticism among some of the informed commentators about a 2023. Previously I held to 2023 because there was still lots of evidence to support it, and also the lack of actual evidence supporting 2024 (beyond the vague scepticism). This Q & A changes the balance for me. For better or worse, Nintendo have now pointed the way. I could be reading them wrong, but I now think the balance of probabilities is for 2024.

Lets pretend for a moment that Redacted is releasing November this year but Nintendo does not want to announce that until a month or two after Zelda TotK releases. With the same questions that were asked, how would you expect Nintendo to respond without showing their hand? Under this scenario, it would be hard to give accurate forecast without raising red flags. Not being ready to talk about new hardware but having to give forecast would not be easy.

 

[RaymondBryce]

I'm still harping on it because Furukawa's comments neither confirm nor deny this CY for Drake as it could still come out independent of Nintendo's forecast. I'm not ignoring anything as, imho this fiscal report changes nothing. Besides, why would Furukawa make any indication of new hardware at an investors meeting in a time where Nintendo doesn't even need to do that, like with the Switch?

His comments don't, but the Switch hardware target makes a 2023 release rather unlikely.

 

[John Omaha]

I'll say this... dual thumbsticks up top is the most naturally feeling layout due to how the thumbs naturally fall in that position.
(Even if you have to rewire your brain to go down to find buttons)

It depends on the grip shape. For example, the GC controller's narrower grips put your thumbs in a more upright position right on top of the analog and face buttons, which makes sense when the D-pad and C-stick are afterthoughts at best.

From my experience, most modern controllers are designed so your thumbs naturally rest somewhere in the middle of the buttons and sticks, so there is no 'correct' layout.

 

[TSR3]

The thing is... this is what they very purposely WANT EVERYONE TO BELIEVE SO THEY SELL MORE SWITCH 1s.... I'M NOT YELLING.

It’s a financial report q&a, not a marketing campaign. It’s not going to make a difference to Switch sales. Zelda ToTK on the other hand has made it to the mainstream media …

Zelda Tears of the Kingdom: Why Nintendo's latest game is more than a sequel

The games giant releases the highly anticipated sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[TSR3]

Lets pretend for a moment that Redacted is releasing November this year but Nintendo does not want to announce that until a month or two after Zelda TotK releases. With the same questions that were asked, how would you expect Nintendo to respond without showing their hand? Under this scenario, it would be hard to give accurate forecast without raising red flags. Not being ready to talk about new hardware but having to give forecast would not be easy.

how would you expect Nintendo to respond without showing their hand

With more ambiguity. We know they are good at it

 

[chocolate_supra]

this is the worst layout for sticks tbh

It was the best for me. When playing BotW I was mostly moving forward and tilting the camera around to look at stuff, and having those two sticks on an even line was comfortable. Also I could.. what did they call it, crab hand(?) on the Gamepad and tilt the camera around while pressing buttons (which is great for BotW because "run" was on a face button and I still wanted to look around) but the way the Switch sticks are offset, I can't do it.

And then on 2d games it was comfortable having the d-pad on the same line as the face buttons. On the Switch controller I often find myself holding it kinda diagonally like an N64 controller.

So uh.. agree to disagree on that one.

(yes I'm aware this is Future Hardware Speculation and not Controller Arguments but I will bring it back around and say I genuinely wish Nintendo would bring back the option for the WiiU controller layout for future hardware)

 

[Gotdatmoneyy]

Tbh the fact that he explicitly said no new hardware is baked into the forecast is the only thing still making me think this FY is possible. It's an odd thing to say, unless it was something they were specifically asked.

And if they do wind up releasing something this year they'll just put out a separate forecast for that, and stay true to the "new hardware isn't factored into our forecast" thing.

If 15m is an ambitious target (which it is) then the question some investors may be thinking is, how will they reach it. That's why I would expect clarification on that point.

It just makes no sense. If they intended to release a new generation this year, they would indicate some intention to. This is a year end meeting that people are evaluating investments on, if you have hardware launching in 6 months it is not strange to expect them to see we intend to launch new hardware in the FY but have nothing further to say. All the clarification and forecasts clearly highlight there isn't a console waiting in 2023.

 

[fwd-bwd]

Just wanted to reiterate that according to the Q&A transcript, Furukawa did NOT say whether the 15MM hardware forecast include any new products or not. Either that remark was struck from the official transcript, or Mochizuki misheard/misremembered. VGC he is not, but his reporting did get sloppy at times.

BTW, anyone waiting for a Q&A transcript from Sharp don’t hold your breath. They never provided one and aren’t likely to start now. The company does not have a reputation of strong governance, involving in accounting fraud, price fixing, false advertising, etc.

Edit: fixed errors

 

[ReddDreadtheLead]

I’ve just finished reading the English q&a, I’m not going to copy any quotes but my reading of it is they clearly are sticking with the current Switch models in the short term (up to holidays) and probably for the whole of this FY (so to March 2024).
I was originally gonna wait until June/July, but I’m calling it for myself now and resigning from #Team2023. Apologies to the rest of the team, it’s been fun

If you actually carefully read it again, you’re actually realize they are saying with these messages that they are going to focus entirely on the Nintendo switch system for this entire fiscal year. This fiscal year ends in March 31, 2024. Therefore they will not be advertising or announcing any new model before April 1, 2024. Henceforth the new systems next likely release date is actually holiday 2024, with an announcement possibly within the first half of 2024. They want to attempt to hit that 15M target and will leverage many aspects and new titles to do so with that 180M software forecast, even if they admit it isn’t going to be easy.

Or, it’s spring 2025.

Cast off the H1 2024, or H2 2023, target of aim is probably H2 2024 to H2 2025 window period.


The span of that year is perhaps what they are looking for based on this Q&A and if we take the Q&A as gospel.

 

[ziggyrivers]

 

[Goodtwin]

If you actually carefully read it again, you’re actually realize they are saying with these messages that they are going to focus entirely on the Nintendo switch system for this entire fiscal year. This fiscal year ends in March 31, 2024. Therefore they will not be advertising or announcing any new model before April 1, 2024. Henceforth the new systems next likely release date is actually holiday 2024, with an announcement possibly within the first half of 2024. They want to attempt to hit that 15M target and will leverage many aspects and new titles to do so with that 180M software forecast, even if they admit it isn’t going to be easy.

Or, it’s spring 2025.

Cast off the H1 2024, or H2 2023, target of aim is probably H2 2024 to H2 2025 window period.


The span of that year is perhaps what they are looking for based on this Q&A and if we take the Q&A as gospel.

If Redacted is coming out later than March 31'st 2024, then I suspect it will at the very least get announced before the next investors meeting. At that point, do they really want to have to get cute with answering questions about Switch in its 8th year? Nintendo will revise the forecast down to 10-12 million over the course of this year and the outlook for the following fiscal year will look significantly worse if there is no new hardware coming.

Obviously to line up with the release of Redacted in November.

 

[Deleted member 645]

If Redacted is coming out later than March 31'st 2024, then I suspect it will at the very least get announced before the next investors meeting. At that point, do they really want to have to get cute with answering questions about Switch in its 8th year? Nintendo will revise the forecast down to 10-12 million over the course of this year and the outlook for the following fiscal year will look significantly worse if there is no new hardware coming.


Obviously to line up with the release of Redacted in November.

More legitimate than you think.

 

[mjayer]

It’s a financial report q&a, not a marketing campaign. It’s not going to make a difference to Switch sales. Zelda ToTK on the other hand has made it to the mainstream media …

Zelda Tears of the Kingdom: Why Nintendo's latest game is more than a sequel

The games giant releases the highly anticipated sequel to The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

www.bbc.co.uk

I think you are underestimating the "gaming-press..." they can get blood from a turnip and it will be trending on twitter in less than an hour if there was even a hint of new hardware coming soon at that event.

 

[ReddDreadtheLead]

If Redacted is coming out later than March 31'st 2024, then I suspect it will at the very least get announced before the next investors meeting. At that point, do they really want to have to get cute with answering questions about Switch in its 8th year? Nintendo will revise the forecast down to 10-12 million over the course of this year and the outlook for the following fiscal year will look significantly worse if there is no new hardware coming.

Perhaps, but they aren’t obligated to announce new hardware before the next FY first meeting for the following year, as they’ve noted they will announce things at their own leisure and discretion. We shouldn’t expect any announcements at these meetings or announcement of plans, Furukawa has admitted that the NX was a special case and it doesn’t seem like that is representative of what they will do.


The days of long announcement-to-release cycles are dead. And no, even if it is launching in holiday 2024, that does not mean it must be announced in February, they aren’t doing that at all.