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TheSentry said:
Dread only sold like around 3 million and that’s the highest selling Metroid game.
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In comparison, 1-2-Switch sold 3.45 million copies as of 2022. 1-2-Switch!

There’s a huge advantage as a launch title that’s supposed to showcase the console’s new capabilities (Joy-Con in this instance). Now imagine what a Metroid title would do on the sales chart, if launched with Drake and demonstrating 4K/HDR/RT on a piece of portable hardware. If this happens, we sure can call it “special treatment” unapologetically.
RennanNT said:
Due the secrecy around it, Mochi sources might have assumed that whatever they got to test the assets were early devkits and that the 4K assets deadline being the same for the other assets meant it was coming soon.
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The “11 devs” report was done by Takashi Mochizuki and Olga Kharif. The “4K + OLED” report was by Mochizuki and Sohee Kim. That’s three reporters talking to 11 devs and an unknown number of suppliers/assemblers, each with different (and most likely limited) visibility into Nintendo’s plan with the OLED Model, a successor model, and possibly a canceled pro model. Plus Mochizuki’s history of sloppy work, it is no surprise that we got a messy collage through a funhouse mirror.

The individual puzzle pieces are probably solid—OLED (released), 4K (canceled pro and/or unreleased succ), devkit (pro and/or succ), and 3rd party games (pro and/or succ)—but they belong to different puzzle sets and cannot be fitted together. This seems to be the source of inconsistency over which the thread has been racking our brains. I personally already gave up on trying to make sense of these Bloomberg reports but hold on to those individual nuggets of information.
 
FeiFongWong said:
Thats what Im dreaming about all the time. Takahashi said that we will know what's the future of xeno after finishing dlc, so we should know more soon. Maybe they will connect those games and create X trilogy next?
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they could release the new fantansy based game Monolith Soft is working since 2018, on Nintendo next hardware
 
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About the name, how about they don't utilize the world "Switch" in their next machine? Maybe call it "Nintendo Hybrid" or give a acronym name, like Nintendo S4K.

If Nintendo do it, that is not the first time. The N64 sequel as not N128, but Gamecube. Of course NGC was a big failure, but that is not because the name.
 
With how consumers are nowadays in regards to consuming stuff they know versus new things, I think Nintendo will stick to the Switch brand. It’s why we’ve gotten some many remakes, reboots and expansion of already existing media.
 
BDGAME said:
About the name, how about they don't utilize the world "Switch" in their next machine? Maybe call it "Nintendo Hybrid" or give a acronym name, like Nintendo S4K.

If Nintendo do it, that is not the first time. The N64 sequel as not N128, but Gamecube. Of course NGC was a big failure, but that is not because the name.
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The reason they didn’t do that was due to the GC being a completely different product line. There is little reason for Nintendo to change the name in such a completely way & confuse consumers; coming off their most successful device & being the next iteration they’ll play it safe with the naming convention.
 
Tentacle-tropes said:
The reason they didn’t do that was due to the GC being a completely different product line. There is little reason for Nintendo to change the name in such a completely way & confuse consumers; coming off their most successful device & being the next iteration they’ll play it safe with the naming convention.
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No, NGC is the same line as N64.

Look that description: a powerful 3D machine with the best graphics technology Nintendo can bring, up to 4 players simultâneos. A very different design than any other console on the market but with a proprietary media that is fast but has less capacity from what the other companies are using.

Which video game did I describe above?
 
ReddDreadtheLead said:
Xenoblade X on switch 2 hopium for an off year


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Let me take a hit of that hopium!

I got a WiiU after it was already dead and didn't get round to playing X. Now the WiiU is in storage because my WiFi mesh network seems to make the stream to the game pad awful. Would love to play it at 4k on new hardware.
 
BDGAME said:
No, NGC is the same line as N64.

Look that description: a powerful 3D machine with the best graphics technology Nintendo can bring, up to 4 players simultâneos. A very different design than any other console on the market but with a proprietary media that is fast but has less capacity from what the other companies are using.

Which video game did I describe above?
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While they may hail from a similar company philosophy that does not mean they come from the same product line. Meanwhile the Switch & [redacted] will be the same or very similar product line, thus there is no need to get super fancy or out there with naming schemes
 
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eye0h said:
Switchforce has been lurking here lmao, referenced segamega and buncle in most recent vid
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lmaoo I thought you were suggesting the next Switch’s name be the Switch Force xD

TomNookYankees said:
Every time nintendo stuck with the same name for the successor the successor sold worse. Super NES sold worse than NES. Gameboy Advance sold worse than Gameboy. WiiU sold worse than Wii. Nintendo 3DS sold worse than Nintendo DS.
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There are reasons besides nomenclature that affected those consoles
 
LukasManak22 said:
As weird as it sounds, it's good that they announced original game at E3 2017 that soon, when development was as it's start. By revealing that game to the public they given themselves commitment to release it, since it's entirely possible that if it was not announced before the internal reboot, they could have just cancel the game for good.
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Ehh. Gives them as much commitment to release it as, say, Stage Debut or Project H.A.M.M.E.R.
TomNookYankees said:
Every time nintendo stuck with the same name for the successor the successor sold worse. Super NES sold worse than NES. Gameboy Advance sold worse than Gameboy. WiiU sold worse than Wii. Nintendo 3DS sold worse than Nintendo DS.
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Game Boy Advance sold worse than the Game Boy because it was on the market less than a third as long before its successor arrived.
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Ehh. Gives them as much commitment to release it as, say, Stage Debut or Project H.A.M.M.E.R.

Game Boy Advance sold worse than the Game Boy because it was on the market less than a third as long before its successor arrived.
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Yeah, GBA dominated when it was the headline handheld. It was selling FASTER than the GameBoy.

And it makes sense. People want to continue playing their games. If their GameBoy dies or gets lost or is just too worn out, they're going to go out and replace it with a GBA. Other people, turned off by the limitations of the GameBoy/Color and/or their phone turn to the GBA to game on the go. It didn't have ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD; it had ENOUGH power.

A simply more powerful Switch would have this same strong market position. Diehard fans, gadget fans, people unimpressed with mobile gaming, people replacing their Switch, or even just buying a second one for the household. The applicable market is probably slightly BIGGER than the Switch. Not by much I'd say, but this device is more or less, probably, all the appeal of the Switch, PLUS some extra appeal. It brings Nintendo's console from "adequate handheld" to "the best handheld" in the eyes of "hardcore" gamers.

Of course most of us here fit in the camp of hardcore NINTENDO fan who will buy it anyway.
 
TomNookYankees said:
Every time nintendo stuck with the same name for the successor the successor sold worse. Super NES sold worse than NES. Gameboy Advance sold worse than Gameboy. WiiU sold worse than Wii. Nintendo 3DS sold worse than Nintendo DS.
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SNES sold worse because the Sega Genesis was eating into its market share.
GBA sold worse because the DS released 3 years before it could reach its full potential.
Wii U sold worse because it was the fucking Wii U.
3DS sold worse because of the rise of mobile gaming in the early 2010s.
If/when we get the Switch 2, there will be little standing in its way of success, even if it sells a little less than its predecessor.
 
D36 said:
SNES sold worse because the Sega Genesis was eating into its market share.
GBA sold worse because the DS released 3 years before it could reach its full potential.
Wii U sold worse because it was the fucking Wii U.
3DS sold worse because of the rise of mobile gaming in the early 2010s.
If/when we get the Switch 2, there will be little standing in its way of success, even if it sells a little less than its predecessor.
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I’d argue that the 3DS suffered for a couple of reasons outside of just mobile gaming being a thing.
 
ziggyrivers said:
I just realized they could name the next system the Nintendo Switch 4k and literally slap 4k in some games like they did with the DS
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If it’s just a revision that would work but a whole new console they won’t do that.
 
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Eternal darkness would be weird to remaster anyways, the charm of the game was that it had things like making it seem like your tv turned off or the volume went up but that would be hard to do
 
Tron1 said:
Um.... I would expect raw PS4 power docked with a more modern architecture and DLSS.
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A much better CPU ✅
Far more modern architecture ✅
Ray tracing ✅
DLSS/Neural Unit ✅
Performance & Efficiency Gains ✅
More shader cores than Vanilla PS4 ✅
Better GPU than XBox Series S ✅
Full Cream Unreal Engine 5 support ✅

So, those are just a few of the things it will have going for it VS the PS4 and its Pro Model. At least, the leaks have alluded to that very strongly. Apart from the facts that decade-old PS4-tier power is impressive to nobody in 202X, least of all Switch owners, that it would be wholly unfit for a generational purpose for a system releasing in that time, and that mobile CPUs have had the PS4 beaten for years, this will beat it because it has to. There is no other choice, except a worse-than-Wii U-fate, if Nintendo and Nvidia can’t deliver a console with the appropriate facilities. A PS4 Pro has some of the same problems as the PS4 (CPU bottleneck, dated architecture), and while its GPU has more cores, it remains generations behind. Furthermore, I wrote in a fairly recent past post that smarter engineering, NOT raw power will ultimately prevail here.
 
I know there's not much to talk about, but I could really do without the constant meta commentary about things being reposted/sensationalized elsewhere.
 
Kazuyamishima said:
Anything gets posted to reddit lol no better than 4chan
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Ugh, it’s overwhelming sometimes. They had to limit posting about the Mario Movie in one of the subs because people would constantly post reviews about the film.

And don’t even get me starter on r/apple: “x feature is coming for iPhone 15”, “the feature isn’t coming anymore”, “feature has been delayed to iPhone 17”, it’s tiresome

I wonder how things are going on in the Japanese gaming community lol
 
Angel Whispers said:
A much better CPU ✅
Far more modern architecture ✅
Ray tracing ✅
DLSS/Neural Unit ✅
Performance & Efficiency Gains ✅
More shader cores than Vanilla PS4 ✅
Better GPU than XBox Series S ✅
Full Cream Unreal Engine 5 support ✅

So, those are just a few of the things it will have going for it VS the PS4 and its Pro Model. At least, the leaks have alluded to that very strongly. Apart from the facts that decade-old PS4-tier power is impressive to nobody in 202X, least of all Switch owners, that it would be wholly unfit for a generational purpose for a system releasing in that time, and that mobile CPUs have had the PS4 beaten for years, this will beat it because it has to. There is no other choice, except a worse-than-Wii U-fate, if Nintendo and Nvidia can’t deliver a console with the appropriate facilities. A PS4 Pro has some of the same problems as the PS4 (CPU bottleneck, dated architecture), and while its GPU has more cores, it remains generations behind. Furthermore, I wrote in a fairly recent past post that smarter engineering, NOT raw power will ultimately prevail here.
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On an architectural level, Nintendo Switch REDACTED is several generations ahead of Xbox Series X|S. On the other hand, it HAS to be to achieve the efficiency required fo run Series X|S tier games as a handheld.

I also think people are hugely underestimating it, and that some games on the device, thanks to baseline more GPU features, will look better than PS5 games of a similar calibre, with, perhaps, the exception of image quality, but even then, only maybe. Emphasis on SOME.

I know people will lose their cap over ANYONE saying this but this device is, ultimately, more portable PS5 than it is souped up PS4, and in real "showpiece" games that integrate VRS, RT, and DLSS, it could definitely match or outshine.

If you want an (admittedly tame, but nonetheless impressive) example on Switch as is, NIER Automata on Switch is extremely comparable with better IQ, while ARMS outshines some early Xbox One games like Rise.
 
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