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Aether said:
i want the next switch to have individualized tastes for the games.
Zelda should be Quince+mint, and the next 3D mario should be... raspberry
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This would definitely get fans to buy multiple cartridges if you got each game came in three or four different flavours. Though this would go against the idea that Nintendo does not want their games in your mouth. Still, they are leaving money on the table if they don’t do this.
 
LiC said:
They wouldn't be manufacturing now for a system launching in more than 8 months (late November).
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But they might for a system launching in September...

While I think November is possible, I think the launch window is August to October.

Production lines being ready now would mean August has the same gap between now as there was between manufacturing readiness and launch of the original Switch (October to March). Every other Switch model, excluding the original, has launched in that window of August to October. There are plenty of economic reasons for that. For instance, being able to deliver more than one shipment beginning to end between launch and Christmas, so the "hardcore" buyers can get it day one but there's still stock left for the "soft" early adopters getting it for Christmas.
 
Aether said:
i mean, we have enough Mario games on the switch. It would feel weird to have a Console with a Movie only design, and havign one with a special mario design for an old game NOW feels weird to.
Thats just the "if you havent bought one by now, you are only interested in playing mario for reasonably cheap after watching the movie".

Zelda special editions are nothing new. We had GBA, DS, 3DS, Wii U.
Switch kinda missed the oportunity with BotW (since it was the launch, no time for special editions), and Links Awakening was semingly not a big enough release. So TotK is the lst chance for that.
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Zelda 1 launched with the Famicom Disk System, Twilight Princess launched with the Wii, Breath of the Wild launched with the Switch, and the Link's Awakening remake launched with the Switch LITE. Usually when software launches alongside new hardware it doesn't get a special edition. Usually.
 
AxkilAvenger said:
This would definitely get fans to buy multiple cartridges if you got each game came in three or four different flavours. Though this would go against the idea that Nintendo does not want their games in your mouth. Still, they are leaving money on the table if they don’t do this.
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they could do both. add the bittering agent and the taste.
For brave people like us the taste, and the bittering agent for children.
Win Win.
Concernt said:
But they might for a system launching in September...

While I think November is possible, I think the launch window is August to October.

Production lines being ready now would mean August has the same gap between now as there was between manufacturing readiness and launch of the original Switch (October to March). Every other Switch model, excluding the original, has launched in that window of August to October. There are plenty of economic reasons for that. For instance, being able to deliver more than one shipment beginning to end between launch and Christmas, so the "hardcore" buyers can get it day one but there's still stock left for the "soft" early adopters getting it for Christmas.
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But with the Switch they where slightly cautious, they did not know how well it would sell, and next to it they still tried to sell NEW2DS consoles.
Now they only have switch, and if they want a fast move from v2 to redacted, then a higher production would be needed then on the switch launch.
 
Concernt said:
Zelda 1 launched with the Famicom Disk System, Twilight Princess launched with the Wii, Breath of the Wild launched with the Switch, and the Link's Awakening remake launched with the Switch LITE. Usually when software launches alongside new hardware it doesn't get a special edition. Usually.
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I mean...
Aether said:
...kinda missed the oportunity with BotW (since it was the launch, no time for special editions)
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Yeah, i know that on launch doing a special edition would be countere productive.

I DID forget that Links Awakening launched with the Lite.
 
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Concernt said:
But they might for a system launching in September...

While I think November is possible, I think the launch window is August to October.

Production lines being ready now would mean August has the same gap between now as there was between manufacturing readiness and launch of the original Switch (October to March). Every other Switch model, excluding the original, has launched in that window of August to October. There are plenty of economic reasons for that. For instance, being able to deliver more than one shipment beginning to end between launch and Christmas, so the "hardcore" buyers can get it day one but there's still stock left for the "soft" early adopters getting it for Christmas.
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Would it be fair to say there could be a potential announcement in late May or early June for the switch 2?

If the switch 2 launches between August-October.
 
Quailman said:
Would it be fair to say there could be a potential announcement in late May or early June for the switch 2?

If the switch 2 launches between August-October.
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There could be a potential announcement in 2 minutes for all we know, but I'd say it'll be announced in the May to August period like previous Switch revisions, like Wii U, like 3DS, etc.
 
Bosintang said:
I would gladly buy a slightly cheaper model not having a game cart reader. And I'm saying that even though I have BOTW, Witcher 3, MK8DX, Mario 3D World as physical cartridges.
Physical media need to die, for various reasons including sustainability. I will encourage anything going in that direction.
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nah, killing physical media is fucking awful, and there's no good argument for it
 
kvetcha said:
ninjae
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ninji

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HankyPanky said:
one thing it does show is Nintendo is very aware of some of the discussions that take place on the internet not least of which here!

so Nintendo - how about you get those T239 pumping and hit us with a Switch 2. the Uncles are ready to produce & we're ready to consume. a couple of Zelda patches, a new 3D Mario maybe some Metroid Prime 4 and we're good to go.
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Please Nintendo if you are watching just call this new console "Nintendo Switch 2".
 
I would be very disappointed if Nintendo doesn't use Zelda TotK for next generation. I mean, I know there is low probability now to see an announcement of a new generation coming in May. But... if there's a game that motive me to buy a new generation, that's Zelda.

And no. It's not the same to release Zelda TotK Deluxe with the new Switch 2 in 2024 because the surprise factor will have gone by far. I'll play it, of course, but it won't be the same.

And I think it's less probable to see a new Zelda adventure in 2024 or 2025 at the same level as TotK. I'm not expecting the next big 3D Zelda until 2028.
 
I checked old posts on the forum and it was said that the Switch pro "DLSS Model" was supposed to have 12GB Ram in the consumer console and 16GB Ram in the devkit, so maybe if it's a successor it will have 16GB Ram also in consumer console
 
Eos said:
I would be very disappointed if Nintendo doesn't use Zelda TotK for next generation. I mean, I know there is low probability now to see an announcement of a new generation coming in May. But... if there's a game that motive me to buy a new generation, that's Zelda.

And no. It's not the same to release Zelda TotK Deluxe with the new Switch 2 in 2024 because the surprise factor will have gone by far. I'll play it, of course, but it won't be the same.

And I think it's less probable to see a new Zelda adventure in 2024 or 2025 at the same level as TotK. I'm not expecting the next big 3D Zelda until 2028.
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Eh, with Tears of the Kingdom coming out so soon before the next console, and said next console being backwards compatible, Tears of the Kingdom probably WILL be the 3D Zelda for the next Switch for quite some time. As others have mentioned, I'd expect it to get a graphics patch. Maybe a re-release with all the DLC and the update all on the cartridge some time in 2024.
 
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Gerald said:
I checked old posts on the forum and it was said that the Switch pro "DLSS Model" was supposed to have 12GB Ram in the consumer console and 16GB Ram in the devkit, so maybe if it's a successor it will have 16GB Ram also in consumer console
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Given the current availability of LPDDR5 chips and the expected price range (300-500USD), 12GB of LPDDR5 seems more likely. That "Switch DLSS" dev kit was probably for the same device. It would appear a lot of the dev kit rumours were accurate, and if that's the case, that includes Devs not being told whether this is a new generation or a refresh.
 
Trevelyan said:
But like, there really isn’t any latest news?
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Not OFFICIALLY, anyway, but this is a rumours, leaks and speculation thread! There's always news! Even when there's no news!

There HAVE been recent leaks with what appears to be decent accuracy. Nintendo wouldn't TEND to go after fake leaks, or inaccurate leaks. Plus one of the leaks had details about Pokémon DLC that were perfectly accurate.
 
Dekuman said:
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I am talking in ranges. Late 2023 would cover Oct to Dec. Some may even consider September

Weird take.
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Edit: I don't even accept the framing that if the launch is at a specific time, we should hear XYZ information by no later than launch minus N months. But even if that were true, the clock on that would start based on a realistic holiday launch timing, not September.
 
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Vash said:
if anyone was wondering we are back to NOT buying an OLED with the latest news
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The best time to buy it was either 2021 or right now, my friend. Each day you wait is another day closer to an inevitable Switch Advance release, and therefore one less day spent enjoying the OLED model on its own merits. Perhaps wait for the Zelda OLED so you could consider it a collector's item / display piece even when Switch II comes out.
 
LiC said:
Believing in an early 2024 launch is believing in a holiday 2023 launch that got delayed. And that could be the case, but I don't know why anyone would predict that over the default/normal launch timing that nearly all Nintendo consoles have used.
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Because that was the timing of the original switch launch which turned out to be massively successful for them so why not do it again.
 
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I have read all the pages written in the past hours and no one has made a joke yet about our only reliable source having been [REDACTED]?

I'm disappointed in you all.
 
Soul Skater said:
Because that was the timing of the original switch launch which turned out to be massively successful for them so why not do it again.
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But is there reason to believe it turned out more successful than it would have if it had launched in November 2016, which is when they originally planned it before a delay? The original Switch shows that March launches aren't something that need to be avoided, but I'm not sure that's enough to override the conventional wisdom that's led to most systems being launched around November.
 
LiC said:
Edit: I don't even accept the framing that if the launch is at a specific time, we should hear XYZ information by no later than launch minus N months. But even if that were true, the clock on that would start based on a realistic holiday launch timing, not September.
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There is smoke, and heck I want this thing earlier rather than later, but I was answering someone in that post asking rhetorically why there is skepticism of a late 2023 launch. Your quarrel is with the 2023 launch skeptics, not me. lol.

I get your point, but we're dealing with a lot of unknowns, variables, and potentially false stories, and I'm not confortable with absolutist answers. All my post on this subject have been couched in probabilities and ranges.
 
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