I just can't fathom this. The switch is like the third best selling console ever, I feel like from a business perspective it would behove them to build more hype for it than a tweet and then presentation.
Just for the record: I for one definitely care how many winky faces Thugstas posts
I'm not thinking necessarily of a long marketing cycle, but an acknowledgment well in advance, maybe in an investor's meeting. Like I don't see them not mentioning it at the beginning of the Fiscal Year it will release in.
In today's world you don't need a lengthy marketing period. I have yet to see any argument for why they do need one besides "they've done it before" (which is irrelevant to the present) and "to avoid leaks" (the thing already leaked more or less)
I tend to agree with you for the record. But 6 months was the length from the Switch reveal to the launch. And the PS2, which was a sequel to a huge success, mostly hinged on keeping it secret till the last minute, and not trying to overplay the hype, but let the market get excited on their own.
It's the third best selling console ever, so nobody needs a year and a half-long hype cycle to understand what the upgraded version is and why they should buy it.
Switch was closer to 4 and a half actually. October 20th (I remember this because the Simpsons "Thursday the 20th" meme went around for a while) to March 3rd is like 19 weeks or so.
Well, I guess there is one reason why the financial results date is significant, but it doesn't have anything to do with the investor meeting itself. Rather, February 7 is too close to May 12 to fit in a reveal plus adequate manufacturing time.
I'd be shocked if tears of the kingdom outsells botw, launch or lifetime
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You're probably correct on lifetime sales though. I don't see it having quite the same evergreen effect. But who knows.
We don't know either of those things for sure but the latter seems pretty likely, yeah.
I don't disagree with you guys that they could buck tradition and have a extremely small turn around, I just personally can't see it happening. Plus I'll admit that I'm a bit biased. I love the switch and am trying to milk it and its library for all it's worth experience wise, with ToTK aiming to be my 40th physical game lol. So I'm personally not super eager to see the generation end.
I think TotK will be great on the current Switch, and that in all likelihood that's the only hardware anyone's going to be able to play it on for the time being, so I'm with you there. But whenever they're planning to release new hardware, I just don't expect the old pattern to be followed. Unless the new hardware isn't anything like what we expect, and it's some brand new concept that needs time to digest, I think the time between reveal and release will be shorter. Not necessarily, original-Switch-4-months-short, but shorter.
The only reason NX was announced at all was because there was legitimate concern at the time that Nintendo was exiting the console business. We obviously have no such concerns now, and in fact they have already acknowledged a successor coming either explicitly or implicitly with the talk of the transition to a new generation.
Plot twist - the name of the console is Neat. The Nintendo Neat.
Matt is reputable. given the timeline, maybe preliminary SDKs or intended specs were given to third parties
In a hypothetical (key word: hypothetical) scenario where Nintendo continued to partner with AMD, I wonder if Nintendo could have used "Nintendo Navi" as a codename for new hardware (since AMD used Navi as the codename for the RDNA GPU architecture)?It's probably on their list, like the pitched titles for Revolution.
Nintendo Polaris
It's probably on their list, like the pitched titles for Revolution.
dafuq?
yes. what they don't like is inability to resupply
Both positions may be reconciled. If the Drake model is priced around $399-$449, Nintendo'd still need to sell the standard and Lite models for a few more years. They wouldn't want to overhype the Drake model, and prematurely cut the legs off of the existing products, which remain perfectly adequate for many potential buyers. Hence, a short promo period for the Drake and prolonged lifespan for the current Switch are not incompatible. Nintendo might even go out of their way to highlight the whole family during the Drake reveal.
It was said during a press event alongside their partnership for smartphone gaming with DeNA to ensure they were still serious regarding dedicated gaming platforms.
Problem here being the fact that even at lower clocks, drake's performance gap between mariko (even when it's overclocked) is huge.
The less known about TotK the better from the perspective that new systems or anything remotely innovative can be copied by competitors.
Absolutely not. Game releases and console reveals do not affect each other like that. The amount of amazing games that came out on PS4 between announcement of PS5 and release was astronomical, and it simply didn't affect them sales wise.
Phew, glad you clarified that you don't believe AMD can offer anything.
Please tell me we have more leaked possible names lolIt's probably on their list, like the pitched titles for Revolution.
Yeah, I agree, there's a good chance of that reveal window. I won't repeat my reasoning unless someone asks, but yes, absolutely, that window suits.
Hardware speculation temporarily ends, 3rd-party release speculation begins. That is the Circle of Hype.
You bring this up and it reminds me that Nintendo isn't going to have to spend money on non-functional silicon anymore, which to me suggests further reason not to suspect that Drake is going to be significantly more expensive of a part than Erista was in 2017.
As others suggested, this seems to have more to do with Square Enix not liking the opportunity cost of Xbox ports (read: Xbox versions of their big software didn't pull enough sales to adequately offset the port costs) more than inherent exclusivity.
This is where I'm at, as well. The October concept trailer was basically "there you go everyone, you're released from most of your NDAs now" because there was not much new detail provided between then and the January event. By doing the full January-style reveal from the beginning, it functions the same way, and then they can spend the remaining 3 months or so (which would be more time than Switch got post-January reveal) to talk it up and see game announcements from 3rd-parties.
Who says they're not manufacturing it right now...?
They CAN have both, you know. A reveal for the hardware is one thing, but they need somewhere to show off games for it!
My expectation is that we'd be getting the announcement and possibly some manner of showcase (similar to the Switch's January 2017 presentation) in lieu of a regular Nintendo Direct.
