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[Concernt]

This isn't true...

I honestly don't care when it comes out because I likely won't be getting it for a while. I follow this stuff because speculating on hints and leaks and info like this is extremely fun.

I want it NOW, I want a devkit for it NOW, I want to be able to disassemble a retail unit NOW. I don't WANT to wait but time is only linear for us poor humans so I have no choice!

 

[NintenDuvo]

I think the reason for the high pessimism is due to everyone getting burned by the Switch OLED reveal and the major hype leading up to it , so its safer to expect disappointment than to get hyped for what seems like a vaporware dream nintendo system.

 

[ITSMILNER]

I wonder what’s happening with games like Dying Light 2, Hogwarts Legacy and Marvel Midnight Suns. They were all delayed and I think some people were speculating it may have been so they can get Switch Next native versions ready?

 

[Gobias-Ind]

Excuse me for not posting „it’s happening“ every day.
It was „happening“ when some random Amazon people said there’s a new Nintendo SKU. It was „happening“ when Nintendo de-listed the OLED reveal trailer. It was „happening“ late 2022/early 2023.
I think many here aren’t pessimistic, but tired.

I don't understand this whole "tired" business at all. There's always going to be Nintendo Hardware speculation. If the thread causes you undue distress for some strange reason, why do you click on it? Actual news will get its own thread. You're basically diving head first into a dumpster then getting pissed off about the stench. Then proceeding to dive right back in.

You don't have to subject yourself to the torture of people speculating that Nintendo may release new hardware soon. If you're feeling tired and don't have the willpower to not click the thread, you could put it on ignore!

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

In other words: just having a good soc is not enough for such a price increase in my opinion, even with everything getting more expensive.

I think it will be more expensive regardless of production cost, because they know they probably threw billions of dollars away by launching as low as they did in 2017. If they wish they'd launched for $350 back then, $450 is the closest equivalent round number for 2023 or 2024.

I don't understand this whole "tired" business at all. There's always going to be Nintendo Hardware speculation. If the thread causes you undue distress for some strange reason, why do you click on it? Actual news will get its own thread. You're basically diving head first into a dumpster then getting pissed off about the stench. Then proceeding to dive right back in.

You don't have to subject yourself to the torture of people speculating that Nintendo may release new hardware soon. If you're feeling tired and don't have the willpower to not click the thread, you could put it on ignore!

Why do humans not just do healthier things is a pretty big topic, man.

 

[Magic-Man]

I think the reason for the high pessimism is due to everyone getting burned by the Switch OLED reveal and the major hype leading up to it , so its safer to expect disappointment than to get hyped for what seems like a vaporware dream nintendo system.

It's not just the Switch OLED announcement that makes people pessimistic. It's the fact that this thing has been rumored since 2019. 2019! And yeah I know it was thought to be a Switch Pro then but that still doesn't change anything. The only "evidence" we have is a chip that might not be in use anymore. I don't think there's dev kits out there. I don't think it's in production. I'd be glad to be wrong, but this thing isn't coming until 2024 at the earliest.

 

[Skittzo]

It's not just the Switch OLED announcement that makes people pessimistic. It's the fact that this thing has been rumored since 2019. 2019! And yeah I know it was thought to be a Switch Pro then but that still doesn't change anything. The only "evidence" we have is a chip that might not be in use anymore. I don't think there's dev kits out there. I don't think it's in production. I'd be glad to be wrong, but this thing isn't coming until 2024 at the earliest.

"It was thought to be an entirely different product than the one we're talking about but that doesn't change anything!"

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

I didn't start taking this stuff seriously until 4K/DLSS stuff made clear it was something more than a minor increase, but it's still been almost 2.5 years since that.

 

[Magic-Man]

"It was thought to be an entirely different product than the one we're talking about but that doesn't change anything!"

When it comes to these rumors, yes. Because it feels like we've been talking about the same thing for four years. Hell, this Drake product was thought to still be the Switch Pro until recently.

 

[Cackletta5]

I wasnt even talking about you lol. The last time i even saw your name in here is when you were mad people didn't listen to that jumpforce user who had 1 collective post on this entire website...

I wasn't mad about people who didn't listen to that person, I was making a point about how insiders are treated here. I don't know if jumpforce is an insider, but they were first to talk about the revision being shelved AND they were transparent about it, and what bothered me was how people on here reacted to that. I don't know this person and I don't know what you and others are trying to allude to

 

[Hidden04]

When I heard 4K and DLSS I knew that Nintendo would not put these features on a mid-gen refresh, you would use these features to sell a Switch 2. This device was never coming in 2020 or 2021 or even 2022, it was always 2023. The cancelled hardware is probably info from years ago that just got out into the wild imo.

 

[Skittzo]

When it comes to these rumors, yes. Because it feels like we've been talking about the same thing for four years. Hell, this Drake product was thought to still be the Switch Pro until recently.

Ugh no it has not.

If you think we've been talking about the same thing for four years that's because you're not paying that much attention to it. And that's fine. But don't tell us what we've been doing if you're not that familiar with it.

 

[Deleted member 887]

gonna need a source on that. don't think a dev would say that without anonymity since that's also breaking NDA and Zynga was already in hot water

I definitely never read anything like that.

We definitely did, it was widely discussed - all three of us responded The source was Moore's Law Is Dead, who is widely ignored round here (and I utterly unfamiliar with), and it came up in late March. At the time Nate was planning his post Laspus$ podcast, which he said he was pursuing every avenue because he had no intention of covering it more than once. A few weeks after, when asked why the episode hadn't landed, Nate said

Something has come up concerning the subject matter & I want to investigate it further before addressing the topic. Releasing an episode & not investigating this particular bit of information would be ill-advised.

Make of that what you will

 

[Aether]

I think it will be more expensive regardless of production cost, because they know they probably threw billions of dollars away by launching as low as they did in 2017. If they wish they'd launched for $350 back then, $450 is the closest equivalent round number for 2023 or 2024.

Why do humans not just do healthier things is a pretty big topic, man.

at the same time, tech did not stand still since then.
We have a new generation with new features/base levels to expect for ports,
we have cheap phones with great 1080p hdr 90/120Hz screens and 128-256GB of storage.

while even back then people where like "what, just 720p?", it was obvious that 720p native was hard to achive. but were not in 2017 anymore. meaning, an non HDR 720p60Hz Panel wont cut it.

i honestly don't even expect all of my points, even if i feel most of them are reasonable.
But if most of them are missing, and its just the oled switch but with a stronger SOC...then i honestly will wait for the revision before spending 450€ on that, and im on that topic since... the release of the switch. Its the whole "everybody is trying to milk the customer" thing that's currently making me pissed about increased prices, and while i get some, this (in combination to that this is the first generation where consoles did not get cheaper, but actually increased in price) just does rub me the wrong way.

450€ for a great thought out console, sure. 450€ for a revision with just a new soc and maybe double the storage? eh.

Its kinda ridiculous how in every area of life people are trying to explain away increases of 10-50% as "that's just inflation" ignoring that most if not all income increases where far under 10% (at least in my country). I mean we see the problem for Graphics Cards, people bought during the pandemic, prices did increase rapidly over the last 2-3 generations, and now the sales are through the floor.
What did they expect. (and im not implying you here, its just a general rant, sorry if it seems like an attack)

 

[Thraktor]

But it’s 100% not linear, right? Especially if the intercept is 0.

4.2W - 660MHz
9.3W - 1,125MHz
12.0W - 1,380MHz

Or more simplistically, 9.3w is 220% of 4.2w but the clock speed is only 170% of 660MHz.

Next jump isnt linear either: 12.0w is 130% of 9.3w but the clock speed is only 23% faster

Looking at 4.2w and 12.0w, you have nearly 3x power draw at 2x the clock speeds

All I can do is say look at the math: change in x and change in y isn’t linear.

I'll try not to get dragged into the pedantry (although I do love some good pedantry), but it's linear in that it fits a linear function of the form y=ax+b (notice the +b, it doesn't have to intersect at 0) with an R-squared of pretty much 1. Or, to put it more simply, it's a straight line.

Regardless of how we want to define linear, though, my point doesn't change; it doesn't match the shape we would expect on a real chip, or even a reasonable estimate of a real chip. Even with just three points, this is easy enough to determine, because in the second-order polynomial form you'd expect the data to match, no set of three points will ever fit a linear function*.

* Ok, if we want to get really pedantic, there isn't going to be a precise second-order polynomial relationship between clock speed and power consumption. More accurately, power is a function of voltage, clock speed and temperature (via the Poole-Frenkel effect) split across static and dynamic power draw. A good description (with the full functional form) can be found on this Anandtech thread, with measurements. Strictly speaking this does permit multiple data points to fit a linear function, but only if the voltage is constant between the points. I think we can safely assume that Nintendo wouldn't use the same voltage at 660MHz and 1.38GHz, so with proper DVFS we should still have something decidedly non-linear.

We know who the super VIP is? No
What company they come from? No
If they even even visited Nintendo? No

Jensen Huang
Nvidia
Yes

I mean, it's not that hard to decode. They're not going to publish a piece about Nintendo's next (obviously Nvidia-powered) hardware based on some IBM or AMD exec travelling to Japan.

Even if it's accurate, though, it doesn't really tell us much. Jensen is hardly going to be hand-delivering Drake chips on his private jet. Nintendo's a big client for Nvidia, so every so often it's worth having in-person meetings to manage the relationship and make sure everything's running smooth. Maybe this is to mark a milestone, like Drake hitting manufacturing, but it could equally just be Jensen scheduling a trip to meet with several clients/suppliers in Asia, and Nintendo is one of those he's meeting with.

 

[theguy]

This isn't true...

I honestly don't care when it comes out because I likely won't be getting it for a while. I follow this stuff because speculating on hints and leaks and info like this is extremely fun.

okay that too

 

[Serif]

The only "evidence" we have is a chip that might not be in use anymore.

The NVN2 files have copyright dates of 2022. The chip has been worked on as recently as 4 months ago for Linux, suggesting it exists in a physical form.

Do I believe it could come out in 2024? Sure. But I'm skeptical that the chip isn't going to be used.

 

[Skittzo]

We definitely did, it was widely discussed - all three of us responded The source was Moore's Law Is Dead, who is widely ignored round here (and I utterly unfamiliar with), and it came up in late March. At the time Nate was planning his post Laspus$ podcast, which he said he was pursuing every avenue because he had no intention of covering it more than once. A few weeks after, when asked why the episode hadn't landed, Nate said


Make of that what you will

I remember that MLID thing but I didn't remember it being tied to Zynga... Do you happen to have a link to that from this thread? Or page number?

 

[Boxle]

Man this thread is a blast right now

It'll surely calm down in the coming weeks right?

Taking all the data into consideration it's hard not to see a Switch successor by Holiday of 2024, but again, despite all the Gloom and Vileplume surrounding the topic, I still think 2023 is very likely.

If the Switch "Pro" was indeed cancelled, I can only imagine it was Aula that was originally tied to release with the OLED, despite me pushing back on that idea back in 2021.

Drake makes no sense as a mid gen refresh, and if the Switch Next does have a delay at all, I'd bet on it being a delay to refresh marketing or launch plans. There's too much smoke for me to think something isn't almost here.

All that said, I've been wrong plenty before and will be wrong again no doubt. I'd love to see Nintendo step into the more powerful hardware bracket as the Switch is where I'd prefer to play the majority of games. But if they don't things will just continue like they have for the past 15 years where Nintendo continues to release compelling exclusives and I have to to play other games on more powerful hardware.

 

[hologram]

It's the fact that this thing has been rumored since 2019. 2019!

It's disingenuous to say that "this thing" has been rumored since 2019. There have been rumors about future Nintendo hardware for that long, and longer - there's always going to be those. But you know the hardware which the predominant focus of this thread has not been rumored for that long.

If you don't enjoy the speculation, don't participate in it. It's always going to be around. And yes! That includes after the next Nintendo hardware finally releases, whenever that may be. But showing up periodically in a thread of people who do enjoy the speculation to tell them you're sick of it is pretty unnecessary and pointless

 

[KeijiKG]

Everything was speculation here and for quite some days … everything changed … podcast from DF, random tweets.. brought lots of drama.
This thread is still speculative…

I'm confused.
Your complaint is that the speculative thread is still speculating?

 

[Mirev]

I think the best to do right now is just wait. We're gonna get good games this year and if the console will be announced gg, but if not we're still good.

And btw, I really can't see Nintendo waiting more than holiday 2024, and it's the worst case scenario.

 

[Dekuman]

If Drake it being used for a whole new product instead of Switch mid-gen refresh, I'm preparing for disappointment where it's something like the Drake chip being used for a home console, and they keep their hybrid business going by using the TX1 again, but with the same Wii U capabilitiers and as a streaming tablet for your Drake console, with the Switch add-on console itself being sold separately and backwards compatible with the current Switch. I'm actually a little concerned they will come off hybrid entirely and do some weird shit again.

Really, I just want a more powerful Switch. And this cancellation is very troubling. Nothing we've heard since has helped. We've only had nate reconfirm the DLSS Switch device was canned and the drake chip is being repurposed. This could explain why it's a such a large 12 SM chip. Maybe thermals and power consumption won't be an issue if it's a just a TV box.

 

[Thugstas]

I'm confused.
Your complaint is that the speculative thread is still speculating?

When I see some comments I’m questioning myself.
I’m still speculating.

 

[Hosermess]

I remember that MLID thing but I didn't remember it being tied to Zynga... Do you happen to have a link to that from this thread? Or page number?

Pretty sure it wasn't tied to Zynga. Think it went nameless.

 

[Serif]

I remember that MLID thing but I didn't remember it being tied to Zynga... Do you happen to have a link to that from this thread? Or page number?

Page 181 of this thread, here.

No mention of Zynga. I'm looking for the actual MLID video from that timeframe but digging through the timestamps I can't even find a mention of a Switch Pro or devkits, may have been some offhand comment.

I still think that if there were cancellation of a product with devkits being confiscated, there'd be some more reporting out there. I can imagine frustrated devs going to the press, no longer caring about NDAs since the device they'd been targetting had been cancelled... or something.

If devkits were confiscated at any point I'd just assume it's cause they broke NDA.

 

[NintenDuvo]

For me personally I will remain somewhat optimistic until the next investor meeting on February 7th, if Nintendo still refuses to address the next system then my pessimism for this device releasing this year will go sky high

 

[TonyBaduy]

If @Raccoon weren't on a temp ban we would have at least four extra pages.

Raccoon is what? What did he do this time?

 

[Hermii]

M

Jensen Huang
Nvidia
Yes

I mean, it's not that hard to decode. They're not going to publish a piece about Nintendo's next (obviously Nvidia-powered) hardware based on some IBM or AMD exec travelling to Japan.

Even if it's accurate, though, it doesn't really tell us much. Jensen is hardly going to be hand-delivering Drake chips on his private jet. Nintendo's a big client for Nvidia, so every so often it's worth having in-person meetings to manage the relationship and make sure everything's running smooth. Maybe this is to mark a milestone, like Drake hitting manufacturing, but it could equally just be Jensen scheduling a trip to meet with several clients/suppliers in Asia, and Nintendo is one of those he's meeting with.

I agree it's most likely is, that was my first reaction.

But it's not 100% certain (it was Japanese, stuff could be lost in translation) and like you said even if it was it really doesn't necessarily mean anything.

 

[ReddDreadtheLead]

For me personally I will remain somewhat optimistic until the next investor meeting on February 7th, if Nintendo still refuses to address the next system then my pessimism for this device releasing this year will go sky high

It would be in March, not February, that they would bother addressing it. And it wouldn’t even be in an investors meeting. It would be detached from that.

And if it’s not addressed around March, then give up Q1 2024 hopes. It’s not for the upcoming fiscal year at all at that point. Possibly the following one.

 

[Hidden04]

If the device is really entering production in China later this month we will probably start hearing more soon.

 

[chocolate_supra]

Raccoon is what? What did he do this time?

He's just taking a breather for a couple months, is all. Self-requested ban.

 

[TonyBaduy]

He's just taking a breather for a couple months, is all. Self-requested ban.

Lies, Drake got him rabies and now he is getting put down, but he'll get better in a few months.

 

[the_marmolade]

I think we all should forget about Drake:

 

[Skittzo]

Page 181 of this thread, here.

No mention of Zynga. I'm looking for the actual MLID video from that timeframe but digging through the timestamps I can't even find a mention of a Switch Pro or devkits, may have been some offhand comment.

I still think that if there were cancellation of a product with devkits being confiscated, there'd be some more reporting out there. I can imagine frustrated devs going to the press, no longer caring about NDAs since the device they'd been targetting had been cancelled... or something.

If devkits were confiscated at any point I'd just assume it's cause they broke NDA.

Yeah I think it's likely Nintendo did retaliate for the leaks involved in that September 2021 Bloomberg report. They rarely actually respond explicitly to a rumor, but they went hard on denying this one. Which, ironically, makes it seem likely that it was true.

Maybe the lack of reporting on this since is because Nintendo has threatened to blacklist publications/revoke devkits for anyone that leaks this.

 

[ILikeFeet]

We definitely did, it was widely discussed - all three of us responded The source was Moore's Law Is Dead, who is widely ignored round here (and I utterly unfamiliar with), and it came up in late March. At the time Nate was planning his post Laspus$ podcast, which he said he was pursuing every avenue because he had no intention of covering it more than once. A few weeks after, when asked why the episode hadn't landed, Nate said


Make of that what you will

lel, then my comment stays the same. I want a source that ain't a hack like MLID

Page 181 of this thread, here.

No mention of Zynga. I'm looking for the actual MLID video from that timeframe but digging through the timestamps I can't even find a mention of a Switch Pro or devkits, may have been some offhand comment.

I still think that if there were cancellation of a product with devkits being confiscated, there'd be some more reporting out there. I can imagine frustrated devs going to the press, no longer caring about NDAs since the device they'd been targetting had been cancelled... or something.

If devkits were confiscated at any point I'd just assume it's cause they broke NDA.

MLID has been accused of deleting videos where he was wrong. might be why

 

[10k]

Wouldnt bother me. I've been putting $5-$10 here and there for the past few years for the next console. Whether it was a pro or switch 2, I already have the console covered so im ready for it.

My comment is more for the crowd that thinks we're getting a 1536 Cuda Core GPU with tensor cores for under $399.

 

[10k]

• 4k HDR for sure, if were at 450€ in 2023.
• Joycons should be fixed (and people will open them on release)
• 8GB sounds conservative if its 450€ in 2023, since then we are already comfortably in the field of 12GB smartphones... but i would still be ok if 8GB is really enough...
• 256GB ssd (im not expecting that they will manage to start a new wave of high speed storage solutions, and outside of gaming the market did kinda stop to develop because...for what? 4k recording? already fast enough. 8k? nobody needs it. So we need at least 256gb of on board storage, and an sd card slot for "fridging" games.
• I also want a quick swap solution like XBox. Meaning, 128GB internal storage wont cut it.
• The display also needs HDR, and ideally 1080p, although im fine with 720 if its NOT BIGGER then the base switch...im already annoyed by the bigger pixels on the oled. but if its not 1080, then i would really want a 90Hz screen. That's already available in phones <300€, so i don't see a problem with a 720 HDR 90Hz screen (see: Samsung A Series...A33 has a 1080 HDR AMOLED 90Hz screen, and is < 300€)
• the joy con grip that's added should be of the charging variety. for 450€ i don't want them to skimp on a 70c usb c charging chip.
• i also want them to support VRR (i don't have anything with that, but to future prof a 450€ console in 2023), and options for 120Hz gaming (not for major franchises, but so that old ports, remasters and indies can use it. like, just think of an F-Zero remaster that, instead going 4k it goes for >= 1080 and 120Hz. In my opinion that would be mind melting.
• while i would get them trying to have Joy Cons compatible, i would hope for... improvements and expansion. back triggers, analog triggers, something like that. hall sensor sticks...

• You'll get 4k HDR I believe.
• Joycons will be the same or have some sort of new gimmick (analog triggers? better haptics?)
• RAM will likely be 6GB or 12GB
• They are most certainly going to go with UFS 3.1 instead of an SSD
• Storage won't be swappable if it's UFS (microSD for game saves and media captures not withstanding)
• The display is likely 720p OLED like in the current OLED, it's HDR compatible already I think? 60hz
• They might add textured grip to the joy-con's, it's nice to have textured grips on the Xbox Series controller
• VRR will probably be supported

 

[Goodtwin]

Maybe the lack of reporting on this since is because Nintendo has threatened to blacklist publications/revoke devkits for anyone that leaks this.

Nintendo has been really good at keeping a lid on things. Think about how many games get announced and released only months later but we knew nothing or little to nothing about them. Most of the leaks that end up being highly accurate are the ones that come shortly before a Nintendo Direct. Once the material starts spreading out to the marketing team the channels for information to leak out open up.

My comment is more for the crowd that thinks we're getting a 1536 Cuda Core GPU with tensor cores for under $399.

$399 is my expected launch price. If the Switch 2 is basically a Switch with a better SOC and more memory, the cost of manufacturing wont be significantly higher. If Switch had not been so successful there would have been some hefty price cuts by now. Probably discounted by $100 on the V2 Switch and $50 for Lite. So even if Drake and the extra memory come in at an additional $100 to the cost of BOM, a $399 price point should be possible without taking losses.

 

[Skittzo]

Here's a question.

A bunch of people have been saying we have no devkit leaks so it can't be soon. The question then is, if you believe there are zero devkit leaks, when do you think this is coming? Devkits or SDKs go out like ~2 years before launch or so, at the latest. If everyone who's doubting 2023 is saying 2024 instead, we should similarly be hearing those same devkit leaks by now that you all want to be hearing.

Which is part of why I think if it's not 2023 (or early 2024) it's more likely to be 2026 and an entirely different chip than it is to be 2024.

Nintendo has been really good at keeping a lid on things. Think about how many games get announced and released only months later but we knew nothing or little to nothing about them. Most of the leaks that end up being highly accurate are the ones that come shortly before a Nintendo Direct. Once the material starts spreading out to the marketing team the channels for information to leak out open up.

Keeping their own games that only they know of under wraps is one thing, keeping hardware that supposedly dozens or hundreds of other studios know of is an entirely different animal.

 

[HankyPanky]

If the device is really entering production in China later this month we will probably start hearing more soon.

yup. people are referencing Investor meetings & such but i'm convinced if the Uncles aren't leaking sometime soon (like in the next 4 weeks) then May is totally out the window. of course 2023 is still fair game but even then some chatter should be coming sooner than later.

 

[Shadowrun]

If the device is really entering production in China later this month we will probably start hearing more soon.

From where did the production rumor originate? The uncles? If so did they say something recently or are we still basing the timeline on what they said early last year?

 

[Magic-Man]

It's disingenuous to say that "this thing" has been rumored since 2019. There have been rumors about future Nintendo hardware for that long, and longer - there's always going to be those. But you know the hardware which the predominant focus of this thread has not been rumored for that long.

If you don't enjoy the speculation, don't participate in it. It's always going to be around. And yes! That includes after the next Nintendo hardware finally releases, whenever that may be. But showing up periodically in a thread of people who do enjoy the speculation to tell them you're sick of it is pretty unnecessary and pointless

I don't really come into this thread often for a reason. This thread gets pretty hostile to anyone that doesn't believe in the current mindset. Why aren't people allowed to believe that Switch 2 isn't coming this year without being labeled as pessimistic and/or ignored? We go through the same cycle every six months of this console is coming out with ______ and it doesn't and everyone gets mad at each other and the cycle begins anew. It's tiring. I'd participate a lot more if I didn't feel so unwelcome every time I posted in this thread.

 

[Skittzo]

From where did the production rumor originate? The uncles? If so did they say something recently or are we still basing the timeline on what they said early last year?

One of the uncles, not sure which one, said just a week or two ago that production was about to ramp up heavily at a typically light time of year.

I don't really come into this thread often for a reason. This thread gets pretty hostile to anyone that doesn't believe in the current mindset. Why aren't people allowed to believe that Switch 2 isn't coming this year without being labeled as pessimistic and/or ignored? We ho through the same cycle every six months of this console is coming out with ______ and it doesn't and everyone gets mad at each other and the cycle begins anew. It's tiring. I'd participate a lot more if I didn't feel so unwelcome every time I posted in this thread.

This is again extremely disingenuous. Nobody got hostile to you for believing it's not coming this year. People responded to your idea of "it's the same thing as 2019".

Nobody in this thread gets hostile towards people who believe it's not coming 2023 or soon or whatever. What happens is people ask them why they believe that. Because we like to have discussions about reasons for believing things or analyzing data in certain ways. Because that's literally the purpose of having a speculation thread, to discuss our varying viewpoints on the evidence, hints, leaks, or lack thereof.

That doesn't mean hostility. If people think questions posed to their reasoning is hostility then why are they participating in a speculation thread?

 

[Shadowrun]

One of the uncles, not sure which one, said just a week or two ago that production was about to ramp up heavily at a typically light time of year.

Nice. Thank you!

 

[HankyPanky]

From where did the production rumor originate? The uncles? If so did they say something recently or are we still basing the timeline on what they said early last year?

a few things recently (in the last couple of months) implying something big was popping off in productions lines around new year. just Uncle chatter but it's as good as any rumours posted around here, something to give us hope it could still be coming with Zelda.

the Zelda OLED being complete so early could also be worthy of an eyebrow raise.

 

[Shadowrun]

a few things recently (in the last couple of months) implying something big was popping off in productions lines around new year. just Uncle chatter but it's as good as any rumours posted around here, something to give us hope it could still be coming with Zelda.

the Zelda OLED being complete so early could also be worthy of an eyebrow raise.

Yeah, I was gonna ask if the increased production could be due to the ZOLED but it sounds like it is not?

 

[Hidden04]

Yeah, I was gonna ask if the increased production could be due to the ZOLED but it sounds like it is not?

I don't think the Zelda OLED would require a new production line.

 

[Skittzo]

Yeah, I was gonna ask if the increased production could be due to the ZOLED but it sounds like it is not?

One of the theories about why the ZOLED model leaked is because it was produced months ago, since the original release date for the game was late 2022. So assuming they've gone through at least most of that ZOLED run it's unlikely they need to really ramp up for that. Most special editions are limited editions after all, they don't make them in huge numbers.

I don't think the Zelda OLED would require a new production line.

AFAIK nobody claimed anything about a NEW production line.

 

[Serif]

I don't really come into this thread often for a reason. This thread gets pretty hostile to anyone that doesn't believe in the current mindset. Why aren't people allowed to believe that Switch 2 isn't coming this year without being labeled as pessimistic and/or ignored?

Would you like to talk about it? I responded to your claim of the T239 possibly not being in use anymore. I didn't intend to be hostile.