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StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

I'm honestly not holding my breath that Nintendo will patch any Switch games with enhancements. Especially when they are selling remasters of Wii games at full $60 price. I wouldn't be surprised if even the top games like BOTW and Super Mario Galaxy, etc remain not patched. Really hope I'm wrong though but Nintendo sure does love to disappoint.
Nintendo patched BotW in 2019 to improve load times by overclocking the CPU. I didn't have any complaints about the loading times before then, it's not like they needed to. So, there's precedent for updating past games. Not sure how this is related to Wii remasters. They currently sell their flagship titles at full price. They can justify this further with patches. Breath of the Wild is 100% getting one. I'll bet my account on it.
 
I'm honestly not holding my breath that Nintendo will patch any Switch games with enhancements. Especially when they are selling remasters of Wii games at full $60 price. I wouldn't be surprised if even the top games like BOTW and Super Mario Galaxy, etc remain not patched. Really hope I'm wrong though but Nintendo sure does love to disappoint.
Well, on the other hand, they are running out of WiiU ports at this point. Switch 2 patches(whether paid or otherwise) could be used to fill out the release calendar in a drip feed sort of way.
 
It's a very Nintendo move to do, but do you all think that there is a chance that it may not have an OLED display just so that they can keep selling it as its own separate model? The idea has crossed my mind and it's frightening.
 
It's a very Nintendo move to do, but do you all think that there is a chance that it may not have an OLED display just so that they can keep selling it as its own separate model? The idea has crossed my mind and it's frightening.

I asked this some time ago. Most points made were that it just seems like an incredibly bad or illogical move. Nintendo is creating a more expensive premium device, and potential ‘next step’ for Switch - having an arbitrary compromise to deal with over the last version of the system doesn’t really benefit them in any way. Best case they could hope for would be every single current owner wanting to buy this new system as a replacement. The current OLED model being a lower priced product is reason enough for those interested to buy it.

Not going to pretend it can’t happen, just not going about assuming it’s will.
 
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I'm honestly not holding my breath that Nintendo will patch any Switch games with enhancements. Especially when they are selling remasters of Wii games at full $60 price. I wouldn't be surprised if even the top games like BOTW and Super Mario Galaxy, etc remain not patched. Really hope I'm wrong though but Nintendo sure does love to disappoint.
Not to be rude, but you do realize the switch and Wii couldn’t be more different right? Them bringing Wii games doesn’t have a correlation with switch games getting patched even if it’s just to take advantage of higher resolution and framerate.
 
It's a very Nintendo move to do, but do you all think that there is a chance that it may not have an OLED display just so that they can keep selling it as its own separate model? The idea has crossed my mind and it's frightening.
How is that a very Nintendo move?

And no, there's no chance of that.
 
They also changed how they did accounting, didn’t they say that 1/3 of the value was due to this?
The impact of ASBJ accounting standard change is an increase of 36,559 million yen across all current liabilities and inventories (consolidated). However, as we know the change in inventories alone from 03/2021 to 03/2022 is 117,366 million yen (consolidated). Nintendo did not disclose how much of the 36,559 million yen was for the inventories though, not to mention specifically the raw materials.
 
Has Nintendo ever actually regressed from console to console on display tech?

Wasn’t it simply that they had multiple suppliers in a console lifecycle that supplied their displays for just that console, not that they shift to worse display technology from one generation to the other, and wasn’t the 3DS family the only one to do this display switching?
 
lol yeah gaming isn't life or death. It was always a case where I have a really nice home theater setup and I have a PS5, XSX, nice 4K OLED tv, etc but most of my favorite games are on Switch and the Switch itself is such a lackluster experience hardware/visuals wise so a proper "Nintendo Next Gen Leap" would be something just really desirable for me.

I'm hoping for 2023 because BOTW 2 is my hotly anticipated game. Probably the biggest game in the last few years for me in terms of "want" and I really don't want to get stuck playing that on the old hardware. I also think if Nintendo releases that game and there is no sign of new Nintendo hardware then it really is years out. While Nintendo has a track record now for not wanting to show games until close to release, I think Zelda is such a highly anticipated game and a tentpole title for the company that I think they would want to show more but are holding back until they can do a full reveal on new hardware. At least that is my theory.
It is in Xenoblade 3 9_9
I'm honestly not holding my breath that Nintendo will patch any Switch games with enhancements. Especially when they are selling remasters of Wii games at full $60 price. I wouldn't be surprised if even the top games like BOTW and Super Mario Galaxy, etc remain not patched. Really hope I'm wrong though but Nintendo sure does love to disappoint.
Watch them give "free" upgrades to NSO + members.
 
You can do like me … just come here and having fun… and let things happening or not… it is just video game and take it like distraction.
On a business note… a new switch is on the way…and soon … this time is more exciting because when we hear nothing for too long …something big happens.. so come to my webinar and pay me 600€ and come and eat croissant 😉
How are you planning to serve us bakeries through the webcam?
 
Considering my statement of not having a new statement to make regarding timing was turned into content... I such a thing that to happen.

Not sure how saying the timing remains the same as last year -- late 22/H1 23 -- is newsworthy.
News! Natedrake has no news.
 
It's a very Nintendo move to do, but do you all think that there is a chance that it may not have an OLED display just so that they can keep selling it as its own separate model? The idea has crossed my mind and it's frightening.
You can't call it a "Nintendo move" when they never done it before
 
This is an opinion piece masquerading as a news report. And as far as the opinion goes, it's a pretty bad one at that.
  • First of all I'd encourage anyone interested to read the investor notification (machine translation is fine; it's not complicated).
  • Hosiden did not "withdrew" its FY03/2023 forecast due to forecasting "difficulties", but rather because the business went gangbuster in the APR-JUN quarter.
  • Their original forecasted sales for the APR-SEP half was 89 billion yen, but the actual sales for APR-JUN alone already reached 70 billion yen.
  • Thanks to the surge of sales, Hosiden needs to redo their forecast for the full fiscal year. It isn't ready yet—at this moment—due to the unsteady supply chain and exchange rate. The investor notice promised that a new forecast will be disclosed as soon as Hosiden has it ready.
    • Every company in this business has been citing the supply chain and exchange rate fluctuations in pretty much all their financial reports. Hosiden did the same when providing the original FY03/2023 forecast too. There's nothing out of the ordinary here.
  • To somehow frame this as a negative indicator for Nintendo, Mochizuki got his buddy Hideki Yasuda to provide the following gem (note that this is only in the Japanese article, but omitted in the English version):
    • Hosiden revised their APR-SEP sales forecast to 120 billion yen. Since the sales in APR-JUN was already at 70 billions, Yasuda surmised that the company is expecting to do 50 billion yen sales in JUL-SEP (120-70=50). A whopping 20 billion decrease in sales! Nintendo must be in trouble!
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    • Compared to the original APR-SEP forecast (89B), the new number increases by 31B (120-89=31), which seems to be the amount of excess sales over the original APR-JUN forecast. I don't think that Hosiden revised their JUL-SEP forecast at all, despite the positive APR-JUN result, and that should invalidate Yasuda's theory.
If I were inclined to spin this investor notice the other way around, I would've posited that Hosiden is withholding the FY forecast to help Nintendo to hide an upcoming new model. See, two can play that game.
How is this man still employed? There is clearly enough evidence to recommend a dismissal from Bloomberg.
 
Has Nintendo ever actually regressed from console to console on display tech?

Wasn’t it simply that they had multiple suppliers in a console lifecycle that supplied their displays for just that console, not that they shift to worse display technology from one generation to the other, and wasn’t the 3DS family the only one to do this display switching?
The most similar case would be GB Light vs GBA even if it isn’t related to the display tech literally, but even then it is a weird scenario when we consider GB Light was JP only and produced in quite small quantities for a console.
 
The most similar case would be GB Light vs GBA even if it isn’t related to the display tech literally, but even then it is a weird scenario when we consider GB Light was JP only and produced in quite small quantities for a console.
I didn’t know the GBA was a downgrade in a sense from the Light. Was it the dark display basically?
 
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The most similar case would be GB Light vs GBA even if it isn’t related to the display tech literally, but even then it is a weird scenario when we consider GB Light was JP only and produced in quite small quantities for a console.

Didn’t know about this. Wonder why we didn’t see a backlight on GBA? Sounds like GB Lite had decent battery life at 12 hours, so doubt that was why.

Was it planned for peripheral sales? I know I went through 1-2 lights on my GBA :/
 
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Didn’t know about this. Wonder why we didn’t see a backlight on GBA? Sounds like GB Lite had decent battery life at 12 hours, so doubt that was why.

Was it planned for peripheral sales? I know I went through 1-2 lights on my GBA :/
Probably had more to do with costs and wanting to keep GBA price as low as possible while still making a profit of it. Outside of Japan people didn’t have access to a GB with backlight and even in Japan the numbers of units sold were low, it was an area where they could cut corners.
 
Probably had more to do with costs and wanting to keep GBA price as low as possible while still making a profit of it. Outside of Japan people didn’t have access to a GB with backlight and even in Japan the numbers of units sold were low, it was an area where they could cut corners.

Didn’t cross my mind that it’d be much of a cost but yeah that’d make sense. Regardless that’s such a long time ago, with a far less distributed or promoted product. Hardly a precedent worth considering today.
 
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So when do we think this will be announced? As I think about it, I get a bit confused.

If it's releasing this year, it should be announced in the next couple of months no? Ideally releasing around the holiday period such as November therefore, would September be the last chance for announcement?

I'm aware people are speculating that it could release in early 2023 but if I understand correctly, don't companies always want to release their new consoles/revisions during holiday period? The reason why Switch released in March 2017 was because no software was available if they released in 2016 holiday. But with the Switch being a massive success and lots of major software releasing this year, Nintendo wouldn't need to release it next year provided that the hardware is ready no?
 
Has Nintendo ever actually regressed from console to console on display tech?
I don't think so, unless you count something like standard 3DS screen size being a regression from DS XL screen sizes. Vita and Quest come to mind as other notable portable devices that dropped OLED for later models, though.
Didn’t know about this. Wonder why we didn’t see a backlight on GBA? Sounds like GB Lite had decent battery life at 12 hours, so doubt that was why.

Was it planned for peripheral sales? I know I went through 1-2 lights on my GBA :/
Speaking as someone who is not that familiar with the tech: I had the idea that the kind of lighting used for GB Light and watches of that era wasn't something that would work well with color. At least, they always had a blue/green look that didn't clash with grayscale.
 
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I think considering the massive Switch success, a ~2 month gap is very possible like

September -> November
January -> March
July -> September

And also, I’m sure they would want to release at least a title that’s exclusive to the model, which can be ?? Thats the big question. Unless Nintendo wants to rely majority on third parties.
 
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So when do we think this will be announced? As I think about it, I get a bit confused.

If it's releasing this year, it should be announced in the next couple of months no? Ideally releasing around the holiday period such as November therefore, would September be the last chance for announcement?

I'm aware people are speculating that it could release in early 2023 but if I understand correctly, don't companies always want to release their new consoles/revisions during holiday period? The reason why Switch released in March 2017 was because no software was available if they released in 2016 holiday. But with the Switch being a massive success and lots of major software releasing this year, Nintendo wouldn't need to release it next year provided that the hardware is ready no?
I suspect the holiday drive is to take advantage of the FOMO wave that comes with the holidays. but there's never been a hard and fast rule of "non-holiday launch != success"
 
I think considering the massive Switch success, a ~2 month gap is very possible like

September -> November
January -> March
July -> September

And also, I’m sure they would want to release at least a title that’s exclusive to the model, which can be ?? Thats the big question.
I can’t imagine such a short timeframe for an important, major upgrade of the Switch while OLED already had like 3 months iirc.
 
I suspect the holiday drive is to take advantage of the FOMO wave that comes with the holidays. but there's never been a hard and fast rule of "non-holiday launch != success"
Usually is done that way to avoid losing previous holiday sales, that is why Q1 launches tend to be rare and most console rollout is all done in the same year. Also Q4 allows for a stronger start which is vital for a console success
 
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I think considering the massive Switch success, a ~2 month gap is very possible like

September -> November
January -> March
July -> September

And also, I’m sure they would want to release at least a title that’s exclusive to the model, which can be ?? Thats the big question. Unless Nintendo wants to rely majority on third parties.
I think 3 months is the minimum amount* of time for a rollout of such a product

* there can always be some factors which force Nintendo to delay the announcement but still allow them to release it at the planned date in that case it could have a shorter rollout
 
I think 3 months is the minimum amount* of time for a rollout of such a product

* there can always be some factors which force Nintendo to delay the announcement but still allow them to release it at the planned date in that case it could have a shorter rollout
When switch was revealed … the hardware was originally planned before end of 2016… then BOTW and the rest is history
 
I suspect the holiday drive is to take advantage of the FOMO wave that comes with the holidays. but there's never been a hard and fast rule of "non-holiday launch != success"
At this point it's a pretty even split among the most successful gaming hardware. DS and PS4 were holiday releases. PS2 wasn't in Japan, but I suppose counts as it for western regions. Game Boy and Switch weren't.
 
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If it was ever 2021, which seems exceedingly unlikely due to the timeline of Aula, that means it was probably something other than Drake as we now know it.
 
If it was ever 2021, which seems exceedingly unlikely due to the timeline of Aula, that means it was probably something other than Drake as we now know it.
Officially, Drake has not been delayed. The window has been late '22/H1 '23 internally for a long while. I've been getting updates on timing; but I will not share any such specifics unless they fall outside that window -- late '22/early 23.

2021 was never in the cards. The only reason is was ever mentioned for 2021 is due to a mix up & conflating the new hardware in the hands of developers with the new hardware entering production with an OLED screen.
 
Officially, Drake has not been delayed. The window has been late '22/H1 '23 internally for a long while. I've been getting updates on timing; but I will not share any such specifics unless they fall outside that window -- late '22/early 23.

2021 was never in the cards. The only reason is was ever mentioned for 2021 is due to a mix up & conflating the new hardware in the hands of developers with the new hardware entering production with an OLED screen.
Drake …
 
Officially, Drake has not been delayed. The window has been late '22/H1 '23 internally for a long while. I've been getting updates on timing; but I will not share any such specifics unless they fall outside that window -- late '22/early 23.

2021 was never in the cards. The only reason is was ever mentioned for 2021 is due to a mix up & conflating the new hardware in the hands of developers with the new hardware entering production with an OLED screen.
Yeah I'm not suggesting Drake was ever delayed, just that if something was delayed from last year as Thugstas seems to be suggesting then it was something else, probably something that was outright cancelled.
 
If it was ever 2021, which seems exceedingly unlikely due to the timeline of Aula, that means it was probably something other than Drake as we now know it.
It wouldn’t have been entirely unthinkable imo to release Aula and Aula Drake simultaneously. And phase out the OG model.

Purely dealing with hypotheticals here, as I know that was never in the cards.
 
Yeah I'm not suggesting Drake was ever delayed, just that if something was delayed from last year as Thugstas seems to be suggesting then it was something else, probably something that was outright cancelled.
I'm not aware of any other hardware being in the hands of developers. Internally tested concept models not coming to market... maybe. But nothing that ever hit dev kit status has been shelved.
 
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