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Are there any rumours regarding the screen? Will it have the same screen as the OLED Model?
Nothing set in stone, but nothing to imply it wouldn't. 4K model speculation comes from data mines suggesting the OS can switch to a 4K output from the USB port, but all the screen controller parts have gone unchanged since support was added for the Aula screen (OLED Model).
 
Sorry for the late reply and since it's kind of to multiple posts just gonna do it without a quote but the idea behind not putting all games on the original and having some big ones like Mario or Mario Kart being exclusive would be to sell the new device and to allow those games to have a larger scope and scale, since if they have to limit things for the switch hardware it would limit what they could do with the games. I think it's a good compromise, allowing the switch to keep living and getting games but also not waiting 9 years for a new generation of hardware and software, which could leave consumers getting bored of Nintendo.
 
Wasn't there talk of the shell/casing being a bit different? The thread is a disaster to navigate in terms of meaningful or relevant info.
Well, it's not meant to be a wiki, it's a thread. Info is posted, then discussed, then opinions are shared, jokes are made, etc. It's a human way of communicating. But yes, I do believe there was talk about the backplate being bigger than the OLED, the same way the OLED was bigger than the original, so maybe, I would speculate... 0.6cm longer than the original, from Joy-Con rail to Joy-Con Rail.
 
I think that’s the point. And all the Hidden text

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Well, it's not meant to be a wiki, it's a thread. Info is posted, then discussed, then opinions are shared, jokes are made, etc. It's a human way of communicating. But yes, I do believe there was talk about the backplate being bigger than the OLED, the same way the OLED was bigger than the original, so maybe, I would speculate... 0.6cm longer, from Joy-Con rail to Joy-Con Rail.
... but random, useless translations and pages of nothing is hell to navigate for a single bit of information.

I want the original link for the claim of a Joycon size differing -- if it's not related to the debunked 8in screen translation.
 
What about the JoyCon difference?
I dunno. Just people's speculation in response to the suggestion that the screen (and therefore probably the whole unit) would be bigger?

And yeah, the thread is an absolute mess. Even if one of these translated posts had real info (press X to doubt) there'd be no way to find it.
 
You’d think between Tom Henderson, Grubb and Nate we’d have full specs, a release date and launch game video footage. Try harder gents! 😝
 
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... but random, useless translations and pages of nothing is hell to navigate for a single bit of information.

I want the original link for the claim of a Joycon size differing -- if it's not related to the debunked 8in screen translation.
Personally I have not seen any claims sourced from either of those forums suggesting the joycon was different.
 
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Wasn't there talk of the shell/casing being a bit different? The thread is a disaster to navigate in terms of meaningful or relevant info.
That was a while back, it led to brief speculation that the kickstand might be changing on Drake in order to make room for an overall deeper shell. I'll look for it.


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Okay I tracked down this post:
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And this post:
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And finally this, which kicked(heh) off the kickstand talk:
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... but random, useless translations and pages of nothing is hell to navigate for a single bit of information.

I want the original link for the claim of a Joycon size differing -- if it's not related to the debunked 8in screen translation.
Pretty sure the Joy-Con being diferent was just speculation on the basis of a larger chassis, like, one that's taller from the intake to the exhaust.

They're not random, and calling them useless is a little insulting to the people here who have language skills, or technical skills, putting them to use so we E*glish users can read them.

Plus, aren't YOU meant to be the insider? A bit stuffy of you to go around insulting the efforts of people trying to translate leaks you apparently haven't heard of.
 
Wasn't there talk of the shell/casing being a bit different? The thread is a disaster to navigate in terms of meaningful or relevant info.

The consensus was the is information was speculation/jokes, and a post explaining/debunking the situation was the last relevant discourse on it.

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Hmmm....
Last I recall you are working on information you want to thoroughly vet before going public. This may have just been speculation with no hard information, but it certainly piqued your interest. Something sound kinda familiar?
 
"It was horseshit! A joke! They won't make the Switch Pro bigger!" I continue to insist as I slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob
 
Guys, gals, pals, this is a speculation and discussion thread, not a scientific journal. It's meant to be fun! Lighten up a bit! I'm just in it for the laugh, and on the off chance any of this IS true, I'll be ready and waiting to put in my pre-order.
 
Sorry for the late reply and since it's kind of to multiple posts just gonna do it without a quote but the idea behind not putting all games on the original and having some big ones like Mario or Mario Kart being exclusive would be to sell the new device and to allow those games to have a larger scope and scale, since if they have to limit things for the switch hardware it would limit what they could do with the games. I think it's a good compromise, allowing the switch to keep living and getting games but also not waiting 9 years for a new generation of hardware and software, which could leave consumers getting bored of Nintendo.

Using your big, major 1st party software to be exclusive to one piece of hardware to push sales of that hardware only makes sense if the primary goal of that piece of hardware is to replace all previous hardware and move the userbase to the new one as quickly as possible.

Nintendo doesn’t want/need this Drake model to be that, or function as that.

It’s meant to increase software engagement of the Switch library over the next few years that would have otherwise declined as the perceived age of the current hardware continues.

Being able to release their big games on the old hardware as well as the new would be the point. Maximum engagement with software/services.

What exactly is this “larger scope and scale” 3D Mario/Zelda Mario Kart game you are imagining that can be done on Drake but not Mariko?
 
I really wish I hadn't exposed my biggest hangup about this thing over someone's joke from across the globe

because again I will be so sad if it's bigger
 
Using your big, major 1st party software to be exclusive to one piece of hardware to push sales of that hardware only makes sense if the primary goal of that piece of hardware is to replace all previous hardware and move the userbase to the new one as quickly as possible.

Nintendo doesn’t want/need this Drake model to be that, or function as that.

It’s meant to increase software engagement of the Switch library over the next few years that would have otherwise declined as the perceived age of the current hardware continues.

Being able to release their big games on the old hardware as well as the new would be the point. Maximum engagement with software/services.

What exactly is this “larger scope and scale” 3D Mario/Zelda Mario Kart game you are imagining that can be done on Drake but not Mariko?
I think the fundamental difference here is that you think a 9 year console generation is a good business decision while I don't.
I think that if Nintendo takes 9 years to start a real new gen interest in their IPs and properties will collapse. A lot of people will get bored of the switch and a 4k switch is not gonna bring them back, the 4k switch would mostly sell to the enthusiast audience. Now if this 4k switch had some exclusive games, even if it's just a couple big ones each year that could bring back in the broader audience to rebuy in and renew their interest.
 
Pretty sure the Joy-Con being diferent was just speculation on the basis of a larger chassis, like, one that's taller from the intake to the exhaust.

They're not random, and calling them useless is a little insulting to the people here who have language skills, or technical skills, putting them to use so we E*glish users can read them.

Plus, aren't YOU meant to be the insider? A bit stuffy of you to go around insulting the efforts of people trying to translate leaks you apparently haven't heard of.
Who am I insulting? I'm not insulting anymore who did the translation work. It was even stated in this thread that not every post needs to be translated and posted here.

And who said it's stuff I have not heard of? If it is something I have heard, then having access to a factory leak to back up a certain bit of info would allow me to vet the information further; but I'd also need to be able to find the original information for reference & context. (This is not in reference to any particular bit of info here. Just a general statement.)
 
"It was horseshit! A joke! They won't make the Switch Pro bigger!" I continue to insist as I slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob
I'm assuming one of the reasons Drake is a huge leap is because they intend to run with the hardware for a very long time, into the 2030s. I'd like to think they invested the R&D to properly fit it into something the size of a Switch, and save costs by reusing the OLED display.

Is it possible they could reuse the OLED display but shove into a Steam Deck sized shell? Yes but I won't entertain it because I don't like it. :cautious:
 
Pretty sure the Joy-Con being diferent was just speculation on the basis of a larger chassis, like, one that's taller from the intake to the exhaust.

They're not random, and calling them useless is a little insulting to the people here who have language skills, or technical skills, putting them to use so we E*glish users can read them.

Plus, aren't YOU meant to be the insider? A bit stuffy of you to go around insulting the efforts of people trying to translate leaks you apparently haven't heard of.
Chill. The issue is too many posts with multiple unreadable machine translations that may not be relevant, not the work of the people doing non-machine translation. They're great and no one is insulting them.
 
I really wish I hadn't exposed my biggest hangup about this thing over someone's joke from across the globe

because again I will be so sad if it's bigger
I don't know about that. Like, the "bigger" I expect would be the same way the OLED is bigger than the V2. A touch wider- less than a centimetre wider than the OLED Model. That'd be fine, I think.
 
I don't know about that. Like, the "bigger" I expect would be the same way the OLED is bigger than the V2. A touch wider- less than a centimetre wider than the OLED Model. That'd be fine, I think.
wider is fine, I guess territory but I still won't like it

if it's taller or heaven forbid thicker they're crossed a line
 
Chill. The issue is too many posts with multiple unreadable machine translations that may not be relevant, not the work of the people doing non-machine translation. They're great and no one is insulting them.
"Insulting their efforts" 😛
 
That was a while back, it led to brief speculation that the kickstand might be changing on Drake in order to make room for an overall deeper shell. I'll look for it.


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Okay I tracked down this post:


And this post:


And finally this, which kicked(heh) off the kickstand talk:
Thanks. These are the ones I wanted to take a look at further.
 
I think the fundamental difference here is that you think a 9 year console generation is a good business decision while I don't.
I think that if Nintendo takes 9 years to start a real new gen interest in their IPs and properties will collapse. A lot of people will get bored of the switch and a 4k switch is not gonna bring them back, the 4k switch would mostly sell to the enthusiast audience. Now if this 4k switch had some exclusive games, even if it's just a couple big ones each year that could bring back in the broader audience to rebuy in and renew their interest.
I think it would be a mistake to assume that interest in IPs and games are as heavily linked to their respective "generation" as you seem to be suggesting. Are you under the impression that if a new Zelda or Mario comes out in a few years on a system that's still called "Switch," regardless of its horsepower, people will be bored simply because of the name of the system rather than being thrilled to play a new Zelda or Mario?
 
Not sure if it's relevant, but last year around the OLED launch, Nintendo of Europe adjusted prices down about 30 euro for the V2. Now, Amazon.de is showing all models, including the OLED, with 30 euros off.
 
That was a while back, it led to brief speculation that the kickstand might be changing on Drake in order to make room for an overall deeper shell. I'll look for it.


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Okay I tracked down this post:


And this post:


And finally this, which kicked(heh) off the kickstand talk:

Good summary.

Then following that we have:
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@NateDrake - the talk of a larger joy-cons came about from the talk about a larger casing, and how they'd make that work. The case sizing sprung up from this post. I'm not sure any user provided specific links back to the source forum.
I'd definitely contribute some cash your way! But, if you're wanting a little practice...:cool:

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Soooo I have a translation. lol
Maybe you guys can help me figuring out what some of this actually means, the last sentence in particular is just weird to me, even in my own translation lmao


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And some commentary from fwb-bwd:
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Who am I insulting? I'm not insulting anymore who did the translation work. It was even stated in this thread that not every post needs to be translated and posted here.

And who said it's stuff I have not heard of? If it is something I have heard, then having access to a factory leak to back up a certain bit of info would allow me to vet the information further; but I'd also need to be able to find the original information for reference & context. (This is not in reference to any particular bit of info here. Just a general statement.)
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Who am I insulting? I'm not insulting anymore who did the translation work. It was even stated in this thread that not every post needs to be translated and posted here.

And who said it's stuff I have not heard of? If it is something I have heard, then having access to a factory leak to back up a certain bit of info would allow me to vet the information further; but I'd also need to be able to find the original information for reference & context. (This is not in reference to any particular bit of info here. Just a general statement.)
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I think it would be a mistake to assume that interest in IPs and games are as heavily linked to their respective "generation" as you seem to be suggesting. Are you under the impression that if a new Zelda or Mario comes out in a few years on a system that's still called "Switch," regardless of its horsepower, people will be bored simply because of the name of the system rather than being thrilled to play a new Zelda or Mario?
Interest in a console and its games naturally drops over time. You can see this with google trends
look at 2004-present. Searches have been steadily dropping for the last 2 years. And in fact if it had not been for covid interest probably would have been dropping starting in 2018 and it would be much lower right now. It's not like Nintendo can rely on another pandemic massively boosting demand again. If anything the coming recession is likely to shrink demand and exacerbate the declining interest. If they want to keep this thing their primary device until 2025 then interest in their IPs is gonna drop massively, and as a company driven entirely by the strength of their IPs this is something they want to avoid.
 
Who am I insulting? I'm not insulting anymore who did the translation work. It was even stated in this thread that not every post needs to be translated and posted here.

And who said it's stuff I have not heard of? If it is something I have heard, then having access to a factory leak to back up a certain bit of info would allow me to vet the information further; but I'd also need to be able to find the original information for reference & context. (This is not in reference to any particular bit of info here. Just a general statement.)
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The second turbo processor is in the kickstand!
 
Guys, gals, pals, this is a speculation and discussion thread, not a scientific journal. It's meant to be fun! Lighten up a bit! I'm just in it for the laugh, and on the off chance any of this IS true, I'll be ready and waiting to put in my pre-order.

I thought this post was hilarious as you have one of the most aggressive postings towards another member here...
You seem fairly new here but NateDrake has been around for awhile and I second his sentiment on what's happened in this thread.
I was away from here for only 8hrs and 10 new pages of comments happened in that time frame, which makes me think something important must have happened.

We are all here because we enjoy the discussion and hypothetical talks, but people are being more persistent this time around because if we were this diligent with the Switch Lite we probably would have caught wind of it earlier.
 
I think the fundamental difference here is that you think a 9 year console generation is a good business decision while I don't.
I think that if Nintendo takes 9 years to start a real new gen interest in their IPs and properties will collapse. A lot of people will get bored of the switch and a 4k switch is not gonna bring them back, the 4k switch would mostly sell to the enthusiast audience. Now if this 4k switch had some exclusive games, even if it's just a couple big ones each year that could bring back in the broader audience to rebuy in and renew their interest.

The hybrid concept and consolidation of their gaming models into one mainline ecosystem is what is pushing the renewed interest in Nintendo gaming and Nintendo franchises.

The insane software sales show the evidence of this.

You worry about 9 years…Nintendo doesn’t need to worry about releasing something new and different hardware wise to make people interested in the next big 2026 Nintendo game.

DLSS Drake is what will keep Switch library gaming high in 2026 than it would be otherwise if it had not existed. More people will now buy Metroid Prime 4 in 2026 now that the Drake model will exist instead of some gamers going “do I really want to play this game at 900p/20-30fps…ugh.”

New Switch hardware is designed to attack the unique needs of various gaming segments and keep that engagement high.

The DLSS Drake model is just another device that attacks the enthusiast Nintendo gamer segment.

I dunno why you are worried the OLED Switch will hold back Nintendo gaming engagement in 2026. It shouldn’t in any way, it won’t.

The software and hardware sales during its 6th year on the market belie your theory that a 9 year lifespan is too long for the Switch ecosystem lol
 
What about the JoyCon difference?

I've seen some claims that said the factory worker said MoHun can run at 60fps. It's all a mess.
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I think Nintendo would want to lunch the Switch Drake with Botw 2 to drive sales, if they want third party exclusive games for this console it needs to have an installed base. I think ideally they need to rush to 20 million units sold as soon as possible, I'm even expecting them to use a 3D Mario as well to accomplish this.
 
I think Nintendo would want to lunch the Switch Drake with Botw 2 to drive sales, if they want third party exclusive games for this console it needs to have an installed base, I think ideally they need to rush to 20 million units sold as soon as possible, I'm even expecting them to use a 3D Mario as well to accomplish this.
Repeating the 2017 strategy wouldn't be a terrible idea, if they've been thinking about this for years. Launch around or, perhaps before, a new open world Zelda game, then have a new 3D Mario in the launch window. At least, something from the 3D Mario team. I would KILL for a Bowser's Fury 2 with a bigger world that can keep a stable framerate and above 1080 res in TV mode, that'd sell me on it... if it weren't for the fact I'm already sold on it.
 
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