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New Switch is a very safe route for Nintendo. If it takes off they can make it their next gen system. If for whatever reason it doesn’t then they can just frame it as an upgrade like the New 3DS and do something different around 2026/7.
 
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Lelouch0612 said:
From the shareholder meeting, might be relevant : "Furukawa: 'We will strengthen contact with each and every customer with a Nintendo Account. Going forward, we will continue to sell three models for Switch and strengthen sales with Xenoblade 3, Splatoon 3, new Pokémon titles and new titles from software manufacturers. Despite the impact of the Corona and semiconductor shortages, we will continue to operate our business while taking the necessary measures."
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Not that I want to read too much into anything without the official transcript but in this tweet, (as part of the intro I'm assuming) Furukawa lists the three models for Switch. So maybe don't jump to any conclusions just yet.



"Furukawa: "OLED model, normal model, and Lite are selling in a well-balanced manner. In the previous term, Animal Crossing was a hit and the number of semiconductors was insufficient. With 135 million units, the highest sales of hardware ever. "
 
Jahranimo said:
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if an OLED Switch Lite is introduced sometime too.
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I would. There's isn't that many people interested in the Lite, and those who are don't strike me as being tech enthusiasts who would see in OLED screens a reason to spend more money.
 
Jahranimo said:
I am hoping this is the case and the succ has an OLED display as well.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if an OLED Switch Lite is introduced sometime too.
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1. It would be weird if the Drake model is a downgrade from the Oled model in any way. I wouldn't be surprised if its the exact same 720 oled..

2. Most likely, this would have been datamined, as every other tx1 revision has.
 
Blue Monty said:
I think that OLED would be the one phased out in that case, Nintendo keeps always the budget options not the premium ones in production after the release of a new console.
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But the Lite would be the budget model to keep, I'd think. The OLED has so many improvements in the chassis I doubt they'd phase that one out and leave a "worse" model on the market.
 
Nintendo Switch... Win? 😅
9-Volt said:
Batman Arkham Collection was no show in the direct which makes me more inclined to believe Arkham Knight in that collection is Drake exclusive and all three games will be sold separately on eShop. I'm not sure how feasible to downport such limit pushing open world game to Switch But making it exclusive to the stronger iteration will be much cheaper for WB.

Hogwarts Legacy is probably a base Switch game but enhanced on Drake. WB avoided talking about it most likely because they saving it for Drake showcase.
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I admit that I thought something similar.
I know that Hogwarts Legacy can be ordered at some retailers but I don't know how reliable those retailers are. 🤔
 
chocolate_supra said:
But the Lite would be the budget model to keep, I'd think. The OLED has so many improvements in the chassis I doubt they'd phase that one out and leave a "worse" model on the market.
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Assuming they keep only 3 models I agree.

But if Drake needs to be priced higher, I could see all four remaining. $199. $299, $349, and $XX9 isn't a bad spread of options.
 
@NateDrake

Yo Nate, any clue what this could be?

You once mentioned Super Switch is in regards (and I really hoped for this name long before it was mentioned, since it would be so damn suitable), but also New Switch was on the table. Could this be it?
 
CypressFX said:
@NateDrake

Yo Nate, any clue what this could be?

You once mentioned Super Switch is in regards (and I really hoped for this name long before it was mentioned, since it would be so damn suitable), but also New Switch was on the table. Could this be it?
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Oh it's most definitely just them trademarking the common abbreviation for Nintendo Switch (NSW). I thought people were joking.


This is nothing interesting guys.
 
Ok, I'm confused as to why multiple people think this trademark is any indication of the hardware being named New Switch. I've seen NSW everywhere as an abbreviation for Nintendo Switch, like GCN for GameCube.

I also personally think New Switch is an ugly name, and I would hope Nintendo would move away from naming their console revisions that since the New 3DS in 2014, even if they add the 'new' moniker to their games.
 
chocolate_supra said:
But the Lite would be the budget model to keep, I'd think. The OLED has so many improvements in the chassis I doubt they'd phase that one out and leave a "worse" model on the market.
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I still believe in New 3DS type of revision. Two models, big and small. If this thing will keep getting exclusives, Nintendo will have to retire the old models regardless, so a new mini Switch model makes absolutely sense.
 
Serif said:
Ok, I'm confused as to why multiple people think this trademark is any indication of the hardware being named New Switch. I've seen NSW everywhere as an abbreviation for Nintendo Switch, like GCN for GameCube.
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It's not an indication, but NSW hasn't been used in any official material that I can think off, probably the trademark is just Nintendo making sure a common acronym for their console is protected even if they don't use it that much.
 
Malibu_stacy_with_new_hat_doll.jpg


God I hope Nintendo is smarter than calling the next console 'New Switch'

I'm still in favour of Nintendo Switch Advance, but regardless of revision/pro/successor, it'd be a lot more straight forward to stick with numbered iterations.
 
Brofield said:
Malibu_stacy_with_new_hat_doll.jpg


God I hope Nintendo is smarter than calling the next console 'New Switch'

I'm still in favour of Nintendo Switch Advance, but regardless of revision/pro/successor, it'd be a lot more straight forward to stick with numbered iterations.
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I also love Switch Advance.
 
Switch Advance is my favorite if we're reusing old names, aside from sounding cool (imo...), it mirrors the Game Boy -> Game Boy Advance transition - a popular mobile gaming brand being continued with a more powerful backwards compatible device. A generational leap spec-wise but in the same 'Game Boy' family, spawning its own family with the GBA SP and ... the GB Micro, which is oddly not called the GBA micro and cannot play GB/C games. I'm confused now. Obviously there are differences with how Nintendo will position Drake and the extended cross-gen period.

Who knows, they can go with Max, Ultra, or Plus like some phone models.
 
stodesign12 said:
I'm not a fan of using old names for the next Switch (Super, Advance, New...). The next Switch deserves its own name imo.
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using naming styles that work is the best way to sell the product. that or just calling it the Switch 2. the target audience for this device, initially, will be folks who grew up with the SNES and GBA, so it works well
 
The Sequel to the Nintendo Switch Family systems, The Sequel to the Nintendo Switch Family systems Lite and The Sequel to the Nintendo Switch Family systems - LCD model. Bookmark it.
 
After a little digging, I’m going to assume the Nintendo is taking very safe measures to have the official abbreviation be NSW because of the region of where it was trademarked and the continent it is on. Therefore, this is not really indicative of anything but some people do abbreviate Nintendo switch as NS rather than NSW in other parts of the world like China where they use NS colloquially rather than NSW.

In Germany, they only do NSW for clear reasons. The EUIOP requires you to trademark in two languages and the other language happens to be German for this trademark, first being English and the one who did it is NoE which is stationed in… Germany. Again I’m pretty sure it’s just Nintendo playing extra safe here.
 
Is there any indication Drake would use something other than A78C? Something beyond that w/o 32bit support would be interesting in that Nintendo would have to implement some sort of translation for the 32bit Wii U ports.
 
Someone wrote a blog post about the shareholder meeting for your reading pleasure:
plaza.rakuten.co.jp

2022 株主総会 任天堂　ニンテンドー - ピンポイントplus：楽天ブログ

6月29日水曜日 全国的に梅雨があけて猛暑がつづいています。 京都も青空が広がっていました。 京都駅から近鉄で２駅の十条駅をおりると目の前に任天堂のロゴが目立つ建物が見えます。 任天堂本社開発棟７階会議
plaza.rakuten.co.jp plaza.rakuten.co.jp
 
fwd-bwd said:
Someone wrote a blog post about the shareholder meeting for your reading pleasure:
plaza.rakuten.co.jp

2022 株主総会 任天堂　ニンテンドー - ピンポイントplus：楽天ブログ

6月29日水曜日 全国的に梅雨があけて猛暑がつづいています。 京都も青空が広がっていました。 京都駅から近鉄で２駅の十条駅をおりると目の前に任天堂のロゴが目立つ建物が見えます。 任天堂本社開発棟７階会議
plaza.rakuten.co.jp plaza.rakuten.co.jp
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The interesting bit (badly machine translated):

Semiconductors are tight, so we are quitting inventory of parts. Also, according to the new accounting standards, even when outsourced to a company that assembles parts, there is an obligation to buy back, so that is also included.
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I have no idea what "quitting inventory of parts means". But the part about buying back is interesting, does that basically mean they had to buy back some parts they sent to assembly due to lack of assembly space?
 
Skittzo said:
The interesting bit (badly machine translated):


I have no idea what "quitting inventory of parts means". But the part about buying back is interesting, does that basically mean they had to buy back some parts they sent to assembly due to lack of assembly space?
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They need to use their raw materials / components etc before end of FY … in accounting, stock piling need to be refreshed and reaching a lower level
 
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Foltzie said:
Is there any indication Drake would use something other than A78C? Something beyond that w/o 32bit support would be interesting in that Nintendo would have to implement some sort of translation for the 32bit Wii U ports.
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there's no hard indication that Nintendo would use the A78/C. it's the running theory because Orin uses the A78. there isn't any evidence to believe in a different CPU. as for C vs non-C, it's just that the A78C is best suited for the system, but they could still do two 4core clusters, similar to Orin
 
NSW = Nintendo Switch Woah

A huge multimillion dollar ad campaign will be launched in conjunction with its release. All the ads feature a callback to the original "Wii would like to play." ads by also playing off the name. In each ad someone is playing NSW and either they or someone else walks in and goes WOAH!

"WOAH those graphics on the Switch?!"

"WOAH you can play that game anywhere?!?"

"WOAH is that the new Zelda in 4K 60 WTFBRO?"

I'm joking but at the same time, I could see it... and I kind of want it.
 
Bosintang said:
I would like that much more than the disappointing Switch Sports. An open world game where you meet iconic Nintendo characters and defy them in sports contests.
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Switch Sports has a clear pedigree and is a follow up to the event oriented Wii Sports line

The game you are describing has never existed.
 
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Foltzie said:
Is there any indication Drake would use something other than A78C? Something beyond that w/o 32bit support would be interesting in that Nintendo would have to implement some sort of translation for the 32bit Wii U ports.
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There's a possibility, albeit a very small possibility, Nintendo and Nvidia could consider using the Cortex-A710 since the Cortex-A710 does support up to 8 CPU cores per cluster, and the Cortex-A710 still retains 32-bit support. But that's contingent on Nintendo and Nvidia using a process node that's not Samsung's 8N process node for fabricating Drake (e.g. TSMC's N7 process node or more advanced, or Samsung 's 7LPP process node or more advanced).
 
Dakhil said:
There's a possibility, albeit a very small possibility, Nintendo and Nvidia could consider using the Cortex-A710 since the Cortex-A710 does support up to 8 CPU cores per cluster, and the Cortex-A710 still retains 32-bit support. But that's contingent on Nintendo and Nvidia using a process node that's not Samsung's 8N process node for fabricating Drake (e.g. TSMC's N7 process node or more advanced, or Samsung 's 7LPP process node or more advanced).
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it is a possibilty, back in october 2020, i was told bout the A78 for a gaming console. and now lots of things have changed , ie: orin/dane/drake ....
 
Skittzo said:
I have no idea what "quitting inventory of parts means". But the part about buying back is interesting, does that basically mean they had to buy back some parts they sent to assembly due to lack of assembly space?
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My understanding of the new accounting rule is that IF the seller is obligated to buy back a shipped good (e.g., shop can't sell a game and returns it to seller), the inventory is still on the seller's book until the ownership is completely transferred (e.g., shop sells a game to consumer, or the return period lapses). I'm not an accountant though.
 
TonyBaduy said:
Weird that those disappeared but their 8nm still exist, wouldn't that be the one to disappear first to make way for smaller nodes?
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The 8nm ones will be used on the Orion modules and maybe (hopefully not) on Drake.

I think 6nm and 7nm were primarily on mobile phones a few years ago, and they will just use the newer nodes to be more competitive. Whatever they have left, maybe they will use it for low tier phones is my guess.

Would be funny if Nintendo ordered a stockpile of the 6nm ones for Drake and plan to use that, while moving to a smaller node for the revision (4nm) in 2025-2026.
 
ShadowFox08 said:
The 8nm ones will be used on the Orion modules and maybe (hopefully not) on Drake.

I think 6nm and 7nm were primarily on mobile phones a few years ago, and they will just use the newer nodes to be more competitive. Whatever they have left, maybe they will use it for low tier phones is my guess.

Would be funny if Nintendo ordered a stockpile of the 6nm ones for Drake and plan to use that, while moving to a smaller node for the revision (4nm) in 2025-2026.
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Why would they use 8nm for Orin if that's the only purpose that node has though? They could have used newer nodes and phased out 8nm... oh well, hopefully Drake doesn't use it.
 
ShadowFox08 said:
The 8nm ones will be used on the Orion modules and maybe (hopefully not) on Drake.

I think 6nm and 7nm were primarily on mobile phones a few years ago, and they will just use the newer nodes to be more competitive. Whatever they have left, maybe they will use it for low tier phones is my guess.

Would be funny if Nintendo ordered a stockpile of the 6nm ones for Drake and plan to use that, while moving to a smaller node for the revision (4nm) in 2025-2026.
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Wouldn't be much different from the 20nm X1. Nvidia had unfilled capacity at 20nm allegedly that Nintendo used up and they immediately switched to Mariko at the earliest convenience. It all depends on volume and if those nodes are truly discontinued or simply no longer offered because another client is using up all the capacity until they are disconnected
 
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A Nvidia exec has alluded before to the option of continuing production of Ampere alongside the 40 series. Given how GPU rollout goes, 30 series would probably serve as their upper-low* to mid-mid range for a while yet.

*3050's still a 130 watt card. Their new... low-low or mid-low card's the 1630; 75 watts on 12FF. And, desktop-wise, there's nothing in between 75 and 130 watts from Nvidia from last year or this year. I hate you, economics of GPUs and the increasing inviability of lower price brackets.
 
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