Folks, I love ya'll - all ya'll, this entire thread. Some of the smartest and most passionate people on the planet. But everyone knows what both of you mean. Including each other, right?
Bosintang fundamentally believes that the next device is Drake, and Drake is a successor. Skittzo fundamentally believes that the next device is a revision (and that it's probably Drake). You both know that because you've both been in the thread forever. If you want to discuss which of you is
right about that, go ahead. But this thing where you talk past each other without acknowledging each other's base viewpoint isn't adding a lot.
There are four positions here:
A revision is coming and it is Drake: I think this is the most common position here amongst the regulars. This is the "Drake hack is real, and matches all the Pro talk from last year. Ergo, Pro is Drake, and the early reports were conflatingPro and OLED" take.
Drake is coming, but it's a successor: A vocal minority here. This is the "Insiders and clout chasers generated a lot of smoke out of very little fire. The Nvidia hack is our only undeniable source and that dang thing is too big to be 'just' a Pro" position
A revision is coming, but I'm agnostic on whether it's Drake: This is my position, and I think I might be the only one who has it.
This is the "I believe that the Pro chatter last year was real but confused for the OLED. But what's to keep that from happening again. Just because Drake is real and the revision is real doesn't make them the same device" take. It is reasonable to the point of being unspecific.
LOL, nerds. You got owned last year and won't let go: A common take by the drivebys, most of whom are insufficiently tech savvy to understand the Drake leak, but have a healthy distrust of rumors. The OLED announcement hurt them, they refuse to be hurt again.
Obviously, I think one of these is more reasonable than the others (that's why it's my position), but they're all understandable. If you know someone is in a different camp, engage each other honestly.
A lot of our release timing discussion is just a proxy war for the above - revision believes fundamentally believe the 2022-2023 window that was cropping up last year still holds. Successor folk look at the chip shortage and roll their eyes at that. And the "LOL, nerds" camp needs wants an NX era level of smoke before they'll believe anything is coming again.
Repeating the info we already have is unlikely to move any of these four groups - the differences aren't in the facts but how much you trust which set of facts. We should do our best to tolerate all of these positions and not be smug jackasses too much (I am guilty of this, absolutely).
A note about trusting sources: There are some genuine game journalists and YouTubers of prominence, and they post on this forum and thread. When we talk about "clout chasers" around here, let's be careful to not be indirectly talking shit about our fellow forum goers. Or if you think someone is out of line, say so directly, rather than hiding behind vagueness (while accusing others of doing the same). It's super jackassy.
