StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

[ReddDreadtheLead]

Nah, no need, you are one that knows the facts about yet unannounced hardware..

That isn’t even what’s going on, I’m telling you that you expecting Nintendo to confirm specs and using them only as a source for the hardwrae information wrt the silicon as any indication is ridiculous. They’ll never confirm these specs, you get them from not nintendo. You might as well say that the switch with 256 Cuda cores is a rumor, because nintendo has yet to confirm this. There’s a serious flaw in your logic here.

We didn’t get information from nintendo, we got it from a leak and there was deduction used based on the SoC and what it said on it, and then there was datamining. None of this is confirmed directly from Nintendo, it’s from other sources.

Your logic with this can be applied to even the clock frequency. Or the amount of RAM, or that it uses LPDDR4 ram. But if I follow this logic of yours, it’s a rumor that it’s 256 Maxwell-based CUDA cores and 4 A57 CPU cores and the device uses a Tegra X1.

Because, again, nintendo literally never told us. If we apply this logic you’re applying here.

Note: I am not saying it is confirmed 100% that it is an ampere based SOC with 1536 Shaders (nor will it ever be). However, using even an iota of deductive reasoning, if the device comes out and does the capabilities that are being described, “if it quacks like a duck, acts like a duck, and does the things that a duck does, then it’s probably a duck“

The chance of it not being it becomes so small to entertain as a significant possibility. It’s giving authority to something that is perhaps 1-2% possible vs 98-99% possible as though they are equal in chance of occurring.

 

[Stinkmeiser45]

This has kind of flown under the radar but Furukawa may have actually subtly deconfirmed a pro in the investor Q&A
Someone asks him about how they're going to transition well to the next console and his answer itself isn't that interesting, mostly hinting at backwards compatibility and continuing NSO. However, what is interesting is how he describes the device. He talks about it as transitioning to a new generation. He is most likely talking about Drake, because there's no logical reason he would be publicly discussing their strategy for launching a device 4+ years from now.

The argument for a pro is that while it may be functionally similar to a new console, Nintendo will market it and treat it as a revision. How does this square with him talking about it as a "transition" and going to a "new generation"?

Of course we will need to see the proper official translation first, but if this is accurate then I think it's very unlikely Nintendo plans to launch Drake as a revision at all, even solely in terms of marketing. An iterative sequel, similar to the PS5 vs the PS4 is looking much more likely.

 

[Hermii]

No, I saying that we will know for fact about specs only after official announcement or release, latest after tear down is done on hardware.
On other hand you calling fact specs about product that yet need to be announced based on leaks and rumors.

Talking about insane positioning, you put there when you start talking about facts.


I dont want to reply to other things you wrote because most of them doesn't have anything with things I wrote, while in same time you ignoring what I wrote.

I mean, there's pretty irrefutable evidence pointing to a 12 sm ampere gpu. Its literally stolen from Nvidia.

Yes, plans can change and all, but common. A gpu redesign takes time and a lot of money.

 

[LiC]

I dunno. There's a chance they could settle with GDDR6 since Nvidia has been using it with their GPU lineup. Likewise, Nintendo is no stranger to "exotic" RAM like the 1T-SRAM used in the GameCube and TEV-derived systems thereafter, so I wouldn't be surprised if they might have struck a nice deal on some HBM(2) or like derivative.

There is precedence for them using some higher quality/more expensive RAM.

LPDDR5 is said to be "used on T23x and later" which includes Orin and Drake. The list doesn't differentiate between LPDDR5 and LPDDR5X, but the former is a safe assumption.

 

[Future Boy Nemo]

That isn’t even what’s going on, I’m telling you that you expecting Nintendo to confirm specs and using them only as a source for the hardwrae information wrt the silicon as any indication is ridiculous. They’ll never confirm these specs, you get them from not nintendo. You might as well say that the switch with 256 Cuda cores is a rumor, because nintendo has yet to confirm this. There’s a serious flaw in your logic here.

We didn’t get information from nintendo, we got it from a leak and there was deduction used based on the SoC and what it said on it, and then there was datamining. None of this is confirmed directly from Nintendo, it’s from other sources.

Your logic with this can be applied to even the clock frequency. Or the amount of RAM, or that it uses LPDDR4 ram. But if I follow this logic of yours, it’s a rumor that it’s 256 Maxwell-based CUDA cores and 4 A57 CPU cores and the device uses a Tegra X1.

Because, again, nintendo literally never told us. If we apply this logic you’re applying here.

I don't agree with most of what @Simba1 is arguing, but you are ignoring what they're saying.

Point that Nintendo doesn't conforms specs stands, and that's why I also wrote "or having brake down of hardware itself".

No, I saying that we will know for fact about specs only after official announcement or release, latest after tear down is done on hardware.

They're arguing that we can't be certain of anything regarding specs until Nintendo announces them (not happening) or when after release the system is on shelves, in people's hands, and we're able to tear it apart and literally see what's inside with die-shots and the like, I.E. We don't need Nintendo to tell us once we can see for ourselves the final product.

I agree that we can be reasonably (90%) confident that Drake, with 12SM, is the GPU for the next system, and that treating other possibilities as equally likely is only useful for what-ifs and hypotheticals, but no good can come of arguing with someone and then not thoroughly reading their posts before replying.

 

[Rogue Agent]

In the fourth question and answer, you could say Furukawa declines to comment on the release date of new hardware, though it's not clear from the wording of the question whether he was directly asked that per se.

That answer is a good one for people who think carrying over purchases or NSO content to the next platform is a concern, though. Basically reiterates that "building a long-term relationship through the Nintendo Account" is a focus of their strategy for future hardware.

Thank you for clarifying, that makes more sense to me now where Furukawa technically declined to comment instead of outright staying no to new hardware. Maybe the English Q&A will make things clearer.

 

[ReddDreadtheLead]

I don't agree with most of what @Simba1 is arguing, but you are ignoring what they're saying.



They're arguing that we can't be certain of anything regarding specs until Nintendo announces them (not happening) or when after release the system is on shelves, in people's hands, and we're able to tear it apart and literally see what's inside with die-shots and the like, I.E. We don't need Nintendo to tell us once we can see for ourselves the final product.

I agree that we can be reasonably (90%) confident that Drake, with 12SM, is the GPU for the next system, and that treating other possibilities as equally likely is only useful for what-ifs and hypotheticals, but no good can come of arguing with someone and then not thoroughly reading their posts before replying.

Yes I understood that, however that is proving my point. You will never get confirmation directly from Nintendo, you get it from other people that are not Nintendo. Even if there was a hardware tear down and someone did a die shot of the silicon, you would not get any confirmation from Nintendo you get it from some source that is not Nintendo. Regardless if it’s a hardware breakdown/teardown, it is an Nvidia blog post that gives information saying “RayTracing, DLSS, low performance gaming“, or some leak on a forum post of the specs, you simply will not ever get any confirmation of specifications that it has or it does not have 1536 shaders from Nintendo. You won’t get confirmation that it has an ampere based GPU or not. You won’t get any of that stuff.

Even if Nintendo shifted to AMD, which I mentioned could happen but it is not what I’m discussing (chance is low anyway), you will never get any information other than “AMD semi custom based processor“ and that is literally it from Nintendo. They are not Sony, they are not Microsoft, they are not Nvidia, they are not Apple, they are not QUALCOMM, they are not AMD, they are not Intel, etc. they simply will not disclose the actual technical aspects of their silicon.

 

[Hosermess]

This has kind of flown under the radar but Furukawa may have actually subtly deconfirmed a pro in the investor Q&A
Someone asks him about how they're going to transition well to the next console and his answer itself isn't that interesting, mostly hinting at backwards compatibility and continuing NSO. However, what is interesting is how he describes the device. He talks about it as transitioning to a new generation. He is most likely talking about Drake, because there's no logical reason he would be publicly discussing their strategy for launching a device 4+ years from now.

The argument for a pro is that while it may be functionally similar to a new console, Nintendo will market it and treat it as a revision. How does this square with him talking about it as a "transition" and going to a "new generation"?

Of course we will need to see the proper official translation first, but if this is accurate then I think it's very unlikely Nintendo plans to launch Drake as a revision at all, even solely in terms of marketing. An iterative sequel, similar to the PS5 vs the PS4 is looking much more likely.

Or he was just talking in general since of course there will be a next "thing". Everybody is reading so much from so little. Every business is concerned about keeping their customers, all the time.

 

[Blue Monty]

Yes I understood that, however that is proving my point. You will never get confirmation directly from Nintendo, you get it from other people that are not Nintendo. Even if there was a hardware tear down and someone did a die shot of the silicon, you would not get any confirmation from Nintendo you get it from some source that is not Nintendo. Regardless if it’s a hardware breakdown/teardown, it is an Nvidia blog post that gives information saying “RayTracing, DLSS, low performance gaming“, or some leak on a forum post of the specs, you simply will not ever get any confirmation of specifications that it has or it does not have 1536 shaders from Nintendo. You won’t get confirmation that it has an ampere based GPU or not. You won’t get any of that stuff.

Even if Nintendo shifted to AMD, which I mentioned could happen but it is not what I’m discussing (chance is low anyway), you will never get any information other than “AMD semi custom based processor“ and that is literally it from Nintendo. They are not Sony, they are not Microsoft, they are not Nvidia, they are not Apple, they are not QUALCOMM, they are not AMD, they are not Intel, etc. they simply will not disclose the actual technical aspects of their silicon.

Could Nvidia disclose it themselves?

 

[Skittzo]

Or he was just talking in general since of course there will be a next "thing". Everybody is reading so much from so little. Every business is concerned with keeping their customers, all the time.

Especially considering it hasn't been officially translated yet.

If I had a nickel for every time someone misinterpreted a poorly translated answer from a Nintendo Q&A I'd probably be able to afford a Switch Drake.

 

[ReddDreadtheLead]

Could Nvidia disclose it themselves?

It depends. But considering Nintendo, the chance is low that they’ll disclose anything useful.

The A53s, from die shots, are supposed to be fused off the tegra X1, but NVidia didn’t disclose this information.

 

[Dakhil]

Could Nvidia disclose it themselves?

I imagine not without Nintendo's consent.

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Nintendo says the transition to its next console is ‘a major focus for us’ | VGC

The company wants to alleviate the risk of resetting its userbase…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[Hermii]

I imagine not without Nintendo's consent.

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Nintendo says the transition to its next console is ‘a major focus for us’ | VGC

The company wants to alleviate the risk of resetting its userbase…

www.videogameschronicle.com

 

[fwd-bwd]

This has kind of flown under the radar but Furukawa may have actually subtly deconfirmed a pro in the investor Q&A
Someone asks him about how they're going to transition well to the next console and his answer itself isn't that interesting, mostly hinting at backwards compatibility and continuing NSO. However, what is interesting is how he describes the device. He talks about it as transitioning to a new generation. He is most likely talking about Drake, because there's no logical reason he would be publicly discussing their strategy for launching a device 4+ years from now.

The argument for a pro is that while it may be functionally similar to a new console, Nintendo will market it and treat it as a revision. How does this square with him talking about it as a "transition" and going to a "new generation"?

Of course we will need to see the proper official translation first, but if this is accurate then I think it's very unlikely Nintendo plans to launch Drake as a revision at all, even solely in terms of marketing. An iterative sequel, similar to the PS5 vs the PS4 is looking much more likely.

Furukawa was responding to the analyst/media question about “hardware transition”, hence the answer being phrased that way. I’m not sure that it revealed their hardware iteration/generation strategy at all.

Mochizuki is a good reporter, but we may not want to be colored by his interpretation of the information he received. To this day, he is the only reporter who claimed that PS5 had reached breakeven point (even Bloomberg Japan reported differently), and all other claims of the same simply cited him. Looking at the official Q&A, it doesn’t read to me how Mochizuki interpreted the exchange. It’s really a stretch to categorize it as a decline-to-comment moment.

 

[LiC]

Could Nvidia disclose it themselves?

NVIDIA Gaming Technology Powers Nintendo Switch | NVIDIA Blog

Nintendo Switch is powered by a custom NVIDIA Tegra processor, with a GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce cards.

web.archive.org

Here's what Nvidia had to say about the internals of the original Switch: it's "powered by the performance of the custom Tegra processor" which "includes an NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards." So they confirmed it was a 2nd-generation Maxwell Tegra (which in that case could only refer to the Tegra X1), and that's it.

Side note, this blog post was apparently removed in January 2022, so y'know, Switch 2 in 2022 confirmed obviously.

 

[Hermii]

Could Nvidia disclose it themselves?

The only way this happens, is if Nvidia uses Drake in one of their own products, like a next gen shield. But in that case, they won't actually disclose that its the same chip Nintendo is using, but it won't be hard to deduce.

 

[Skittzo]

Especially considering it hasn't been officially translated yet.

If I had a nickel for every time someone misinterpreted a poorly translated answer from a Nintendo Q&A I'd probably be able to afford a Switch Drake.

 

[ReddDreadtheLead]

NVIDIA Gaming Technology Powers Nintendo Switch | NVIDIA Blog

Nintendo Switch is powered by a custom NVIDIA Tegra processor, with a GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce cards.

web.archive.org

Here's what Nvidia had to say about the internals of the original Switch: it's "powered by the performance of the custom Tegra processor" which "includes an NVIDIA GPU based on the same architecture as the world’s top-performing GeForce gaming graphics cards." So they confirmed it was a 2nd-generation Maxwell Tegra (which in that case could only refer to the Tegra X1), and that's it.

Side note, this blog post was apparently removed in January 2022, so y'know, Switch 2 in 2022 confirmed obviously.

You forgot the necessary /s

 

[LiC]

You forgot the necessary /s

Bad news for my super serious theory -- it actually looks like old posts are periodically pruned, and everything from 2016 was removed in January, not just that one post.

 

[fwd-bwd]

I clicked into the other Fami thread on this subject. As soon as I saw the "source" is VGC, I nope'd out of there. VGC's editorial standard is rather tenuous, and it isn't below them to publish exaggerated, distorted, or unconfirmed stories. I already disputed (either on Fami or Era; don't remember) their interpretation of that Nikkei interview of Furukawa, in which VGC claimed that the next Nintendo hardware "need to offer a new experience", but that wasn't what Furukawa said at all. (Some are still citing that article even today; the damage is long lasting.) And we shall never forget that they was duped by Jon Cartwright's Waddle Dee Knows hoax. Their reporters seems to do less due diligence than the regular posters in this thread.

The exact language in the Q&A was "課題". I'd translate it as "an agenda". Depending on the context it could also be "an issue". If you really want to emphasize it, the translation can be "a challenge". It'a a major concern that a professional gaming news outlet would even categorized it as "a major concern".

 

[Dark Cloud]

I think I’ll trust Nate. He’s been good with this and trustworthy. A new system is coming. Whatever they market it I couldn’t care less. He said late 2022 and possibly could be early 2023.

 

[LiC]

I clicked into the other Fami thread on this subject. As soon as I saw the "source" is VGC, I nope'd out of there. VGC's editorial standard is rather tenuous, and it isn't below them to publish exaggerated, distorted, or unconfirmed stories. I already disputed (either on Fami or Era; don't remember) their interpretation of that Nikkei interview of Furukawa, in which VGC claimed that the next Nintendo hardware "need to offer a new experience", but that wasn't what Furukawa said at all. (Some are still citing that article even today; the damage is long lasting.) And we shall never forget that they was duped by Jon Cartwright's Waddle Dee Knows hoax. Their reporters seems to do less due diligence than the regular posters in this thread.

The exact language in the Q&A was "課題". I'd translate it as "an agenda". Depending on the context it could also be "an issue". If you really want to emphasize it, the translation can be "a challenge". It'a a major concern that gaming news outlet would even categorized it as "a major concern".

Not sure I understand the nitpicking on this one. "Concern" in this context doesn't mean "worry" (as in "this is concerning" or "cause for concern"), it means "thing we're paying attention to" (as in "that's none of my concern" or "Nintendo is the primary concern for most Famiboards users").

And I don't think the headline even makes sense if you interpret it with a negative connotation. Obviously Nintendo didn't come out and say that the prospect of transitioning from the Switch to new hardware (that they haven't announced yet) is concerning.

 

[Stinkmeiser45]

Or he was just talking in general since of course there will be a next "thing". Everybody is reading so much from so little. Every business is concerned about keeping their customers, all the time

Your argument is completely nonsensical. He was asked how they would transition to the next console. He answered how they will transition to the next console. This isn't some random philosophical musing from him, it was a response to an investors question about their future plans.

 

[fwd-bwd]

Not sure I understand the nitpicking on this one. "Concern" in this context doesn't mean "worry" (as in "this is concerning" or "cause for concern"), it means "thing we're paying attention to" (as in "that's none of my concern" or "Nintendo is the primary concern for most Famiboards users").

And I don't think the headline even makes sense if you interpret it with a negative connotation. Obviously Nintendo didn't come out and say that the prospect of transitioning from the Switch to new hardware (that they haven't announced yet) is concerning.

The fact that we are having this discussion of what "concern" means in this context suggests that it wasn't the best word choice. Not to mention that it also drew the attention of the person who tweeted it. For a corporate earnings report, I'd choose languages of neutrality and dispassion.

 

[Hosermess]

Your argument is completely nonsensical. He was asked how they would transition to the next console. He answered how they will transition to the next console. This isn't some random philosophical musing from him, it was a response to an investors question about their future plans.

I was replying to you attempting to parse an initial translation of his remarks for an answer to the greatest mystery of our time - revision or successor. My argument was...relax.

 

[Simba1]

I mean, there's pretty irrefutable evidence pointing to a 12 sm ampere gpu. Its literally stolen from Nvidia.

Yes, plans can change and all, but common. A gpu redesign takes time and a lot of money.

I also think leak its most likely scenario, but you cant say its fact that next Switch will have exact specs like leaks or rumors saying,
fact means something thats 100% true and proved, so for things calling facts we would need tear down of that hardware that still in unannounced.

 

[Dakhil]

TSMC plans another price hike amid inflation concerns

Chip titan warns clients of second increase since 2021, citing rising costs

asia.nikkei.com

 

[Stinkmeiser45]

I was replying to you attempting to parse an initial translation of his remarks for an answer to the greatest mystery of our time - revision or successor. My argument was...relax.

Like I said I agree that nothing is definitive until we get an official translation, I was just saying that if his wording is accurate then he seems to be strongly suggesting they are planning a transition to a new generation of console, and he probably isn't planning that out 4 years in advance.

 

[LiC]

The fact that we are having this discussion of what "concern" means in this context suggests that it wasn't the best word choice. Not to mention that it also drew the attention of the person who tweeted it. For a corporate earnings report, I'd choose languages of neutrality and dispassion.

I disagree that the phrase "major concern" is a non-neutral way to phrase Furukawa's response that the transition is something important to them. But I did just see a shitty headline form another site that interpreted it negatively and added extra editorializing, so I see your point about the effects it's having.

 

[CypressFX]

@NateDrake

Hey Nate, any update on what your next episode will be? Will you cover the earnings and maybe already NVN2 (or is it still too soon)?

B

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Can't wait for yall to work yourselves into a shoot and for Nintendo to announced the Switch Lite OLED.

I mean, if they want to waste their time, more power to them. If the performance of the various models tells us anything, it's that people are much more interested in the fuller experiences than Lite, even if they have to pay 50 or 75% more.

 

[NateDrake]

I think I’ll trust Nate. He’s been good with this and trustworthy. A new system is coming. Whatever they market it I couldn’t care less. He said late 2022 and possibly could be early 2023.

DLSS devkits have been distributed. There is no question of that. I have a list of games and developers with them (no, I'm not naming them).

Everything else is on Nintendo to figure out -- branding & timing.

 

[Hosermess]

Now that could a controversial typo lol

"no, I'm naming them....not"

 

[ShaunSwitch]

Now that could a controversial typo lol

"no, I'm naming them....not"

Every Nintendo youtuber and news site.

"Nate Drake preparing to Dox developers with 4k switch dev kits."

 

[Skittzo]

 

[Blue Monty]

DLSS devkits have been distributed. There is no question of that. I have a list of games and developers with them (no, I'm naming them).

Everything else is on Nintendo to figure out -- branding & timing.

Do you know anything new about Nintendo telling developers when to have the games ready?

 

[NateDrake]

Do you know anything new about Nintendo telling developers when to have the games ready?

I have no update to provide.

Right now I remain operating on the info provided last October, which was pre-COVID lockdown in China and Russian invasion.

 

[Thugstas]

DLSS devkits have been distributed. There is no question of that. I have a list of games and developers with them (no, I'm not naming them).

Everything else is on Nintendo to figure out -- branding & timing.

True.

 

[Hosermess]

And with that...

 

[YolkFolk]

I reckon there could be new joy con but the old joy con will also be BC. Better build quality, IR pointer at the top, and maybe a lightly more comfortable form factor. You’ll be able to use these new joy con on the OG Switch models as well.

 

[Falcatops]

They could release OLED Lite easily for $249 if they were targeting only handheld users.

But why would anyone buy that “OLED Lite” model in the first place? For $50 more you get the complete Switch experience with the red-box Nintendo Switch, and for $50 less you get a similar experience with the current Switch Lite (minus the OLED screen).

I don’t think an OLED Lite model is in the plans, it’s a product without a clear buyer, or as other people said “a niche within a niche”. So it isn’t too crazy to see the OLED Model as a more direct upgrade to the current Lite more than it is to the red-box regular model, after all the only real improvement to the docked mode is the ethernet port.

 

[Stinkmeiser45]

I reckon there could be new joy con but the old joy con will also be BC. Better build quality, IR pointer at the top, and maybe a lightly more comfortable form factor. You’ll be able to use these new joy con on the OG Switch models as well.

This is kind of what they did with the wii remote, making the Wii remote plus which had better motion built in but you could still use normal wii remotes too.

 

[Stinkmeiser45]

But why would anyone buy that “OLED Lite” model in the first place? For $50 more you get the complete Switch experience with the red-box Nintendo Switch, and for $50 less you get a similar experience with the current Switch Lite (minus the OLED screen).

I don’t think an OLED Lite model is in the plans, it’s a product without a clear buyer, or as other people said “a niche within a niche”. So it isn’t too crazy to see the OLED Model as a more direct upgrade to the current Lite more than it is to the red-box regular model, after all the only real improvement to the docked mode is the ethernet port.

These late gen revisions are usually not primarily targeted at the average consumer. They are created to squeeze money out of the hardcore consumers who are buying it more for collection than anything else. They also don't typically need that many sales to be profitable, because they use mostly the same parts with only minor modifications, like an OLED screen. I could see a lite OLED, maybe even at $200 with the regular lite phased out entirely.

 

[Falcatops]

Especially considering it hasn't been officially translated yet.

If I had a nickel for every time someone misinterpreted a poorly translated answer from a Nintendo Q&A I'd probably be able to afford a Switch Drake.

So you are saying that… you already know Drake’s future price point and accordingly know if it will be a revision or a successor?

Spoiler

/S

 

[Tentacle-tropes]

These late gen revisions are usually not primarily targeted at the average consumer. They are created to squeeze money out of the hardcore consumers who are buying it more for collection than anything else. They also don't typically need that many sales to be profitable, because they use mostly the same parts with only minor modifications, like an OLED screen. I could see a lite OLED, maybe even at $200 with the regular lite phased out entirely.

Considering the financials from Nintendo has stated that the margins for OLED are slim currently, in addition to the Lite having slim margins when it came out; I think Nintendo is gonna stay away from a OLED Lite @200$ for the foreseeable future.

 

[Falcatops]

These late gen revisions are usually not primarily targeted at the average consumer. They are created to squeeze money out of the hardcore consumers who are buying it more for collection than anything else. They also don't typically need that many sales to be profitable, because they use mostly the same parts with only minor modifications, like an OLED screen. I could see a lite OLED, maybe even at $200 with the regular lite phased out entirely.

I get your point but Nintendo’s late gen revisions tend to focus in affordability, to catch the “cautious with money” crowd that didn’t buy the console during the previous 4-5 years and probably doesn’t want to shell out a lot of money for a more modern console.
Examples include the NES-101/HVC-101, the New Style Super NES, the Wii Mini, the GBA Micro, and the New Nintendo 2DS during the late 3DS years.
I know that a Gamecube revision without support for the Digital AV port was released, but I can’t remember if it was a mid-life or late revision.

In the end all of those revisions have reduced functionality, so I can’t see a $200 OLED Lite with the same screen as the current OLED model. That would mean that that OLED Lite would have a bigger screen than the regular Switch.

Quick edit:

Considering the financials from Nintendo has stated that the margins for OLED are slim currently, in addition to the Lite having slim margins when it came out; I think Nintendo is gonna stay away from a OLED Lite @200$ for the foreseeable future.

That too.

 

[Tentacle-tropes]

I get your point but Nintendo’s late gen revisions tend to focus in affordability, to catch the “cautious with money” crowd that didn’t buy the console during the previous 4-5 years and probably doesn’t want to shell out a lot of money for a more modern console.
Examples include the NES-101/HVC-101, the New Style Super NES, the Wii Mini, the GBA Micro, and the New Nintendo 2DS during the late 3DS years.
I know that a Gamecube revision without support for the Digital AV port was released, but I can’t remember if it was a mid-life or late revision.

In the end all of those revisions have reduced functionality, so I can’t see a $200 OLED Lite with the same screen as the current OLED model. That would mean that that OLED Lite would have a bigger screen than the regular Switch.

Quick edit:

That too.

Most of those didn’t even sell well either with exception to the New 2DS. In addition Nintendo has moved away from that paradigm towards the end of the 3DS/WiiU life. Lots of bundling, sometimes at increased price in certain regions. It’s why I think the yearly Nintendo sale they do is replacing the Selects Line.

 

[ReddDreadtheLead]

Rather focus on when the device will come out, what the man said or did not say, what the performance targets of the device would have, etc.

Let’s have a little exercise: give a hardware idea that you would like to see in the next model as a feature. It does not matter if Nintendo does it or not, however giving an idea that is more or less realistic of what can be done, even based on another piece of technology. Also share it but keep in mind what you will share will not be wrong because this is just a hypothetical scenario that has nothing to do with performance, or very technical aspects of it. It’s just something you would think is cool to have on a gaming console like this. analog triggers are not creative enough

It was mentioned, but the wireless docking. So I guess the switch can cast to the dock that displays to Tv for a very unique form of play. The dock effectively becomes some sort of dongle for receiving the signal. I’m aware of the limitations here but I don’t care since I’m not concerned with that, I’m curious on the idea.

 

[daase ko]

I have no update to provide.

Right now I remain operating on the info provided last October, which was pre-COVID lockdown in China and Russian invasion.

Any idea why it's basically just Mochizuki and you investigating this thing? Other journalists or outlet have merely commented on it after news broke each time, nothing more.

 

[Hermii]

Not an original thought (ref Thraktor), but tensor core powered Nintendogs would be neat.

If Nintendo decides to get creative with ML, I bet there’s plenty they could do.