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Discussion According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

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I feel like the one reason I am giving these reports more credibility than I would usually (in this case, planning now for the release to be in 2025) is because I assume the developer/publishing sources that many of the reports are getting this information from are also likely the ones that Nintendo has close ties with - already have development hardware and all that, so they'd be the ones Nintendo needs to communicate with. While I do think there is a chance that maybe everyone could have the same sources, so they are all getting the same information, I do feel like once multiple sources are picking up on this information, there is a likelihood that there is some truth in what is being said. Nothing will be 100 percent until Nintendo says "March 2025", for example, but because I don't think a lot of developers are, at this point, working on the hardware directly, there likely is some truth to this coming out now.

I do feel like Nintendo had to probably have this "internal delay" in place by now since, in all likelihood, they will talk about it in an official capacity next month (Press Release maybe?) so that there isn't as much secrecy behind closed door meetings at GDC and maybe the upcoming PAX convention? I'm not as familiar on how those things work but I'm assuming after it is revealed, the "floodgates" of sorts will open where Nintendo is meeting with more developers and so more leaks and "confirmations" that the console exists would begin to emerge. In all honesty, I'm not sure if what I'm saying makes all the sense in the world but I just wanted to get it out there haha! :D
 
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Tazmin said:
Not really but it definitely not second hand information or even third. Probably fourth maybe fifth at this point and yknow how rumour mills go down. None of the information is coming from Nintendo directly, just peripheral partners and I doubt it’s from proper ones who’d risk jeopardising their relationship with Nintendo.

It’s okay to conclude the gaming media doesn’t know much in this aspect and they haven’t known since 2016 but they won’t admit it.
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Yep, if Ubisoft got asked to release mario x rabbids 4 less close to the launch window and delay it until q1 cy25 it's possible that that info telephone'd it's way to the rumour we are getting now. Everybody mentions multiple sources, though, so we will see. I personally believe in the delay and will be pleasantly surprised if it does release this year.
Unlike the time Nintendo actually came out to deny the 4k switch revision they will not do the same this time however
 
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9-Volt said:
No it seems Valve is not interested in expanding the markets for Deck. Sounds like it's always been intended to be a side thing for them. Other developed countries such as Norway also don't have Decks available. And valve is actively rejecting offers from distributors.
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2 things to comment on:

  • At least 2 official retailers have been selling Steam Decks for a few months now in Norway (Elkjøp and Power)
  • I need your source about Valve rejecting offers from distributors.
 
fantomena said:
I need your source about Valve rejecting offers from distributors.
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That was for Turkey, I know that they rejected two distributors to carry the Deck in Turkey and I heard similar thing in KSA. I don't think this was published as news on the net but I can contact the distributors for confirmation, if you want?
 
VintoWin said:
Is there any particular reason why VGC would wait to publish a rumor like this from their own sources, instead choosing to piggyback off of someone else?

Do you know what I mean? Like they claim they have their own sources that confirm this info but they for some reason waited to be second in line to share this.
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Imagine it's like this

VGC has 5 sources, A-E, at different companies

In the past all 5 have said "holiday 2024 launch of Switch 2"

Last Monday, source A reaches out and says "Switch 2 delayed to Q1 2025"

Source B also knows, but is not comfortable in saying this cause they're not sure how widespread it is, Source C-E haven't gotten this news yet, so all 4 of them say "they haven't heard of a delay"

Someone breaks the story of the delay, which leads to the "we had heard something similar but couldn't verify it" comments, cause up till that point VGC has gotten conflicting info

Source B now feeling more comfortable, confirms they also heard of the delay, Sources C-E additionally get confirmation from Nintendo the system has been delayed and repeat as such to VGC

VGC now runs their update confirming it's delayed



Something like the above is probably what happened. As Nintendo told more people about the delay, and the rumor was finally made public, both more people in the known confirmed it, and people not originally in the know got the confirmation from Nintendo.
 
9-Volt said:
That was for Turkey, I know that they rejected two distributors to carry the Deck in Turkey and I heard similar thing in KSA. I don't think this was published as news on the net but I can contact the distributors for confirmation, if you want?
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Well, could be a particular case for Turkey then.

Btw, here you can buy Steam Decks in Norway, so I don't like how you wrote you cannot buy them here when it is so easily to check.

Søkeresultat for "steam deck" - Elkjøp

www.elkjop.no www.elkjop.no

Search - Power.no

www.power.no www.power.no
 
fantomena said:
Btw, here you can buy Steam Decks in Norway, so I don't like how you wrote you cannot buy them here when it is so easily to check.
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You can buy Steam Decks in Turkey too, there are plenty of places that sell. But they're not sold officially through distributors, no warranty at all and they're extra expensive, like x3 price of the actual price ($1000 in that link). They literally buy the Steam Decks in Germany like everyone and bring them to Turkey to sell them. Not particularly a legal thing to do, they're not officially imported to sell. I'm guessing it's similar situation in Norway.

Steam Deck is only sold through Steam. Valve is not planning to make it available in retailers. No official retailer, Best Buy, Gamestop, Amazon or Target carry the device. Just Steam.
 
9-Volt said:
You can buy Steam Decks in Turkey too, there are plenty of places that sell. But they're not sold officially through distributors, no warranty at all and they're extra expensive, like x3 price of the actual price ($1000 in that link). They literally buy the Steam Decks in Germany like everyone and bring them to Turkey to sell them. Not particularly a legal thing to do, they're not officially imported to sell. I'm guessing it's similar situation in Norway.

Steam Deck is only sold through Steam. Valve is not planning to make it available in retailers. No official retailer, Best Buy, Gamestop, Amazon or Target carry the device. Just Steam.
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It seems that Valve only wants the Steam deck to be a niche product aimed at like the top 1 % of hardcore western gamers. So no chance it will have any impact on Nintendo, it doesn't even seem to be their strategy to take more than a blip of Nintendo's market shares.

And next gen, the steam deck won't be able to play any Switch 2 Nintendo games with emulation, so if anything Nintendo is even less threatened by the steam deck when Switch 2 arrives because if Nintendo doesn't fumble the ball and the Switch 2 is hacked and emulated first year once again the Switch 2 will be the only way to play new Nintendo games for a good while the coming years.
 
thoughthaver said:
all the third parties launch everywhere else. except the ones they locked down which also launch everywhere else but later. and yeah third parties do sell the best in playstation but steam is catching up and if there's a switch version that will also sell well. not surprised then that playstation is dipping. those exclusives are still important.
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First party exclusives have never played an important role for Playstation success, that is why the PS5 could launch coasting on third party games. Ever since the first Playstation launched in the 90s people have always mainly bought Playstation consoles for the third party games. I would argue that a new Playstation console is good to go when a new FIFA and Call of Duty arrives. That strategy doesn't really work for Nintendo though and we can see that historically.
 
Procheno said:
No one will agree with me and I know I'm crazy for saying it,

But I'd be much happier about the Q1 2025 release if I knew Metroid Prime 4 wouldn't release exclusively on Switch 1 hardware first. Delay it to the launch, make it cross-platform day 1. Being a launch lineup game will give it more life and momentum in the new generation as people give it a try with their new system rather than being marketed/mentally tied to the old-and-gone generation.

If they do that, I'll happily accept Q1 2025 because that means the system will come out swinging with big, brand new games like Mario, MP4, etc and keep on feeding us more bangers from there. Will give Metroid Prime 4 that shiny "next-gen/new-era" aura and feel like Breath of the Wild, ARMS, & Odyssey did for Nintendo during the Switch's first year. Probably won't happen at this rate unless Metroid is behind schedule too :/
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I think there is a fair chance that Metroid Prime 4 is behind schedule as well if Nintendo EPD is having trouble getting their launch titles ready a studio like Retro studios is probably also having problems getting their game ready so could very well be coming out 2025 for all we know.
 
fantomena said:
I very much doubt that. Some Switch games, sure, but everyone, nah.
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I mean for the Steam deck to be able to play Switch 2 exclusive games that will take the Switch 2 to be hacked and emulated instantly like what happened with the Switch, no? That would be a big fumble if Nintendo got itself into that mess instantly once again like what happened with the original Switch.
 
Danny said:
It seems that Valve only wants the Steam deck to be a niche product aimed at like the top 1 % of hardcore western gamers. So no chance it will have any impact on Nintendo, it doesn't even seem to be their strategy to take more than a blip of Nintendo's market shares.

And next gen, the steam deck won't be able to play any Switch 2 Nintendo games with emulation, so if anything Nintendo is even less threatened by the steam deck when Switch 2 arrives because if Nintendo doesn't fumble the ball and the Switch 2 is hacked and emulated first year once again the Switch 2 will be the only way to play new Nintendo games for a good while the coming years.
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Competing with Nintendo would be extremely fool hardy. Steam Deck is not a mass consumer product, it's a niche product that Valve is able to release at an extremely competitive for its market price due to their unique situation.
 
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Danny said:
First party exclusives have never played an important role for Playstation success, that is why the PS5 could launch coasting on third party games. Ever since the first Playstation launched in the 90s people have always mainly bought Playstation consoles for the third party games. I would argue that a new Playstation console is good to go when a new FIFA and Call of Duty arrives. That strategy doesn't really work for Nintendo though and we can see that historically.
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Hmm... definitely odd that they'd bother having four first party exclusive games at launch for PS5 (some crossgen) then...
 
Danny said:
I mean for the Steam deck to be able to play Switch 2 exclusive games that will take the Switch 2 to be hacked and emulated instantly like what happened with the Switch, no? That would be a big fumble if Nintendo got itself into that mess instantly once again like what happened with the original Switch.
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I wonder to what extent the notorious Nvidia leak might not have compromised the Switch 2's security and impacted on R&D plans and timescales. The very rapid piracy of the Switch 1 didn't prevent its success, but it was still a big problem. Perhaps the console's biggest weakness alongside the joy-con drift. So I think they'll be very careful with that.

In the same way, I think it's had a really bad impact in terms of Nintendo's image to see so many people bragging about playing their flagship games with improved performance on PC, sometimes even before they come out on Switch. If tomorrow it's not a niche handheld playing Nintendo's latest games but, say, some kind of portable PS4 pushed by Sony or some kind of portable Xbox, then the consequences will be much less marginal for Nintendo in my opinion.
 
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Metroid Prime 4 has much, much more value as a launch window title for Switch 2 which can showcase its souped up visuals with cross gen across both Switch's, instead of just chucking it out at the end of the Switch 1's life when it will sell like 2 million copies max. Any fan of Metroid should absolutely want this to be the case, because then it will get swept up in the hype of a new console launch and give the franchise the mainstream boost it so richly deserves. Nintendo know Metroid is a big deal for their fans, they've made a big deal of the fact that Prime 4 is even a thing despite us knowing next to nothing about it. They aren't going to send it out to die.

Honestly, if those rumours of something Pokemon related coming this holiday season pan out, then frankly that's all Nintendo need to give the Switch 1 a decent final holiday, especially if they cut the price. They could even chuck out a Mario Party as well I guess, been a while since we had one of those.
 
boodream said:
I wonder to what extent the notorious Nvidia leak might not have compromised the Switch 2's security and impacted on R&D plans and timescales. The very rapid piracy of the Switch 1 didn't prevent its success, but it was still a big problem. Perhaps the console's biggest weakness alongside the joy-con drift. So I think they'll be very careful with that.

In the same way, I think it's had a really bad impact in terms of Nintendo's image to see so many people bragging about playing their flagship games with improved performance on PC, sometimes even before they come out on Switch. If tomorrow it's not a niche handheld playing Nintendo's latest games but, say, some kind of portable PS4 pushed by Sony or some kind of portable Xbox, then the consequences will be much less marginal for Nintendo in my opinion.
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IMO, the piracy problem is even more important than the software lineup, Nintendo should pay much attention on it.
 
boodream said:
I wonder to what extent the notorious Nvidia leak might not have compromised the Switch 2's security and impacted on R&D plans and timescales. The very rapid piracy of the Switch 1 didn't prevent its success, but it was still a big problem. Perhaps the console's biggest weakness alongside the joy-con drift. So I think they'll be very careful with that.

In the same way, I think it's had a really bad impact in terms of Nintendo's image to see so many people bragging about playing their flagship games with improved performance on PC, sometimes even before they come out on Switch. If tomorrow it's not a niche handheld playing Nintendo's latest games but, say, some kind of portable PS4 pushed by Sony or some kind of portable Xbox, then the consequences will be much less marginal for Nintendo in my opinion.
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Yeah i could actually see the hacking fears playing a part in a delay of the Switch 2. I think Nintendo have been furious to see people playing Switch games instantly on their steam decks with better performance. I think Nintendo will want to do everything they can to not repeat the past and extend for years the timeline where the Switch 2 does not have any emulations on other devices. This will probably be even more important for them when they know that the next few years could have more competition in the handheld space than ever before, making the Switch 2 exclusive games even more important for them for the longevity and competitiveness of the Switch 2 in this very competitive market space.
 
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Galgavias said:
They could even chuck out a Mario Party as well I guess, been a while since we had one of those.
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I think the idea is to keep as many new games as possible for the Switch 2 lifecycle. The Switch 1 already got two instalments in the series. I can see more of a new Mario Party in 2025. As you say, by the end of 2024, anything Pokémon will be their main game in terms of sales and a sort of safety mattress, but personally I can see Nintendo doing an unexpected quick port, or changing the release of a title to fill the calendar. If I had to guess, I'd say maybe port DKCR as a "Christmas" game, maybe move Arlo HD to get "something Mario" for the holidays.
 
Danny said:
I mean for the Steam deck to be able to play Switch 2 exclusive games that will take the Switch 2 to be hacked and emulated instantly like what happened with the Switch, no? That would be a big fumble if Nintendo got itself into that mess instantly once again like what happened with the original Switch.
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Even if the full specifications of the Switch 2 were known, the Steam Deck would not be not powerful enough to emulate it to any satisifaction. Emulation requires a significant overhead as the system it's emulating grows more complex and powerful. Especially when the architectures are dissimilar.
 
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Danny said:
Yeah i could actually see the hacking fears playing a part in a delay of the Switch 2. I think Nintendo have been furious to see people playing Switch games instantly on their steam decks with better performance. I think Nintendo will want to do everything they can to not repeat the past and extend for years the timeline where the Switch 2 does not have any emulations on other devices.
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That would be one of the most asinine moves they've ever pulled in regards to hardware of true. But given Nintendo's history of being so infuriatingly out-of-touch, it wouldn't surprise me.

Fighting piracy and emulation will always be a losing battle for any video game company, especially nowadays. Today's hackers and modders are very talented and they numerous. No natter how seemingly impenetrable Nintendo's layers of security may be, a random Joe on Twitter will find a way to tear through it like toilet paper. Even Denuvo eventually gets cracked.
 
O. W. Funnyname said:
That would be one of the most asinine moves they've ever pulled in regards to hardware of true. But given Nintendo's history of being so infuriatingly out-of-touch, it wouldn't surprise me.

Fighting piracy and emulation will always be a losing battle for any video game company, especially nowadays. Today's hackers and modders are very talented and they numerous. No natter how seemingly impenetrable Nintendo's layers of security may be, a random Joe on Twitter will find a way to tear through it like toilet paper. Even Denuvo eventually gets cracked.
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I don't agree entirely with that take. I agree that you can't stop emulation from ever happening. But no hardware maker would be happy with a Switch 1 situation where a hardware device is hacked and emulated at the very beginning of said device lifespan. Most want to put that kind of emulation years into the future when said hardware device is no longer fresh and hot on the market. You surely don't want a situation where people played Tears of the kingdom before release on emulated hardware and also had a better experience than those that waited for official release and bought the game.
 
Lucifer said:
Super Mario RPG wasn't released in Europe and the remake is the first time I've played that game. Does that mean it's not a remake anymore?
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for games that was never released in certain regions, Super Mario RPG could be considered a brand new game for them, despite this game be a remake of a previously released game,
 
Danny said:
I don't agree entirely with that take. I agree that you can't stop emulation from ever happening. But no hardware maker would be happy with a Switch 1 situation where a hardware device is hacked and emulated at the very beginning of said device lifespan. Most want to put that kind of emulation years into the future when said hardware device is no longer fresh and hot on the market. You surely don't want a situation where people played Tears of the kingdom before release on emulated hardware and also had a better experience than those that waited for official release and bought the game.
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boodream said:
I'd like to understand how worrying about the very rapid piracy of a console you've just launched would be "out-of-touch" though.
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Actually i think his statement "Because it is impossible to 100% stop hacking so we should let it go" doesn't make sense at all. We have no need to have police if that statement is valid. Piracy Prevention is really important in protecting software business.
 
ILikeFeet said:
easily MP4 should be cross-gen as it has the most to gain compared to something like Fire Emblem
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A performance patch for Metroid Prime 4 that shows how much better it looks than the already great Switch version would really highlight the value of the Switch 2 to people who just want to play their old Switch games. Metroid Prime Remastered shows us a Prime game on Switch can look legitimately great as-is.

Remember if Switch 2 is truly backwards compatible, there's no reason to "hold for cross gen" because everything is cross gen. Sony didn't hold back The Last of Us Part II. The game has also already been announced for Switch, unlike say the next 3D Mario. This isn't a Wii U/BotW situation where you have to sell two different games for cross gen.
 
ziggyrivers said:
Re: Are remarks new games?
Kinda, but what Nintendo has been doing nowadays seems to work: market remakes as new games.
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They have remade a couple of games recently that may as well be new to most people. Someone I work with asked if I “played Super Mario RPG” and when I said “yes, when I was a baby child” they were shocked. Shocked!

How many people even know that Mario vs. Donkey Kong is a GBA game with bad graphics? Or that TTYD is an RPG that dorks and puppet men won’t shut up about? Or that Another Code was criminally overlooked over a decade ago, not just today?
 
ngpdrew said:
They have remade a couple of games recently that may as well be new to most people. Someone I work with asked if I “played Super Mario RPG” and when I said “yes, when I was a baby child” they were shocked. Shocked!

How many people even know that Mario vs. Donkey Kong is a GBA game with bad graphics? Or that TTYD is an RPG that dorks and puppet men won’t shut up about? Or that Another Code was criminally overlooked over a decade ago, not just today?
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Of course, it's gonna be new for newer generations. Which is also why Nintendo doesn't put much emphasis on the remake part: remakes sometimes sell less than the original.
 
Hajeman said:
www.tweaktown.com

Nintendo Switch made $69 billion in total revenues

Nintendo has generated over $69 billion from its Switch handheld-console family of products since the first system launched in March 2017 to March 2023.
www.tweaktown.com www.tweaktown.com

I can't find the profit one. This is for Switch revenue from March 2017 - March 2023, it's got $69 Billion revenue. And Nintendo profit more than 30% from revenue each year, so you can roughly calculate
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That’s crazy. Thanks a lot!
 
Brock Reiher said:
A performance patch for Metroid Prime 4 that shows how much better it looks than the already great Switch version would really highlight the value of the Switch 2 to people who just want to play their old Switch games. Metroid Prime Remastered shows us a Prime game on Switch can look legitimately great as-is.

Remember if Switch 2 is truly backwards compatible, there's no reason to "hold for cross gen" because everything is cross gen. Sony didn't hold back The Last of Us Part II. The game has also already been announced for Switch, unlike say the next 3D Mario. This isn't a Wii U/BotW situation where you have to sell two different games for cross gen.
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except I am talking about that BotW situation. I've been open about my expectation for MP4 for years now. I expected this game to be shown off with Drake and Drake enhancements. whether that's still on the table (if it even ever was) is up in the air now

meanwhile fire Emblem is a game that's said to have been completed for a while. and, maybe, being made in Unity, there's not much wiggle room for major enhancements with new hardware
 
Switch games with TAA, higher resolutions, and nonshit textures would often look very good.

If an FE4 remake keeps its bad and ridiculously huge map design, then the game will also probably suffer from a lot of low LOD assets and some chugging.
 
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except I am talking about that BotW situation. I've been open about my expectation for MP4 for years now. I expected this game to be shown off with Drake and Drake enhancements. whether that's still on the table (if it even ever was) is up in the air now

meanwhile fire Emblem is a game that's said to have been completed for a while. and, maybe, being made in Unity, there's not much wiggle room for major enhancements with new hardware
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It's not a BotW situation because the same game cartridge will work on both systems. Nobody is going to feel cheated for buying Metroid Prime 4, the critical darling of holiday 2024, when a next-Gen patch (or even nominal upgrade fee) is revealed half a year later. Compare to BotW when you would have had to pay $60 twice. If anything you get an easy bump in word of mouth since people will be talking about your game again half a year later.

The value of Switch 2 enhancements is actually greater if it's already established that Metroid Prime 4 is already a good looking game on Switch, but looks even better on Switch 2. Potential Switch 2 customers who already have a large Switch library can see the obvious and immediate value of upgrading to Switch 2, even if they aren't interested in buying many brand new Switch 2-exclusive games at the moment.

If you delay Metroid Prime 4 for six months, you are losing this benefit and making faithful Switch owners who faithfully waited 7 years for the Metroid Prime 4 they were promised feel cheated. And there are a lot of those Switch owners, compared to the relatively few Wii U owners. You are losing goodwill, losing a potential critical and sales smash hit for 2024, losing the impact of the "wow" factor when a already great looking game suddenly looks better for no/minimal cost, and gaining nothing.

I totally understand looking to the Switch launch for the Switch 2, that's how I knew Switch 2 would be spring 2025 at the earliest. But if Switch 2 is backwards compatible, you should be looking not to the Switch launch but the PS5 launch in terms of software. In this case there is no benefit to delaying for "cross gen".

The only exception is if Metroid Prime 4 still isn't close to being finished. Nintendo choosing to release Prime Remastered after sitting on it for over a year tells me that the game is almost done.
 
VintoWin said:
Is there any particular reason why VGC would wait to publish a rumor like this from their own sources, instead choosing to piggyback off of someone else?

Do you know what I mean? Like they claim they have their own sources that confirm this info but they for some reason waited to be second in line to share this.
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Could be a number of reasons, but one compelling possibility is that it puts your sources more at ease to talk.

If everyone has been saying one thing and you, as a source, have different information, you might be hesitant to speak about it lest Nintendo single you out as the leak. But if someone claims to have had a number of sources about this information, and none of them was you, I makes it much less likely Nintendo will be able to pin it on you.

Likewise, if you, as an outlet, have a source say something contrary to the overwhelming narrative, you might be hesitant to jump on it. Someone else claims to have heard the same from multiple sources, none of which are your own? That changes things. You also have additional sources now willing to talk? The situation has changed somewhat.

It's not always about breaking the news first. You still have to* ensure its veracity.

*which tends to be cast aside as an ideal in our fast-paced 24-hour news economy with money on the line
 
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Brock Reiher said:
If you delay Metroid Prime 4 for six months, you are losing this benefit and making faithful Switch owners who faithfully waited 7 years for the Metroid Prime 4 they were promised feel cheated.
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I'm going to be honest with this line of thinking, Nintendo does not give a shit if some people feel betrayed about a none existence "promise". there a company not a person
 
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Giancarlo said:
for games that was never released in certain regions, Super Mario RPG could be considered a brand new game for them, despite this game be a remake of a previously released game,
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Super Mario RPG and FE4R are new games to me, but I'd still consider them remakes, because that's simply what they are. If every game besides Peach is a remake this year then this is simply a year of remakes. Let's be honest.
 
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Guaraná said:
Delaying Metroid Prime 4 on purpose and deciding to only release it for Switch 2 very disrespectful from Nintendo.
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Yes. As I said this morning, I wouldn't be surprised to see Metroid Prime 4 released exclusively on Switch at the end of this year. Don't forget that it's a game developed and promised for Switch. And there's nothing to prevent a Switch 2 version later in 2025.
 
Danny said:
Yeah i could actually see the hacking fears playing a part in a delay of the Switch 2. I think Nintendo have been furious to see people playing Switch games instantly on their steam decks with better performance. I think Nintendo will want to do everything they can to not repeat the past and extend for years the timeline where the Switch 2 does not have any emulations on other devices. This will probably be even more important for them when they know that the next few years could have more competition in the handheld space than ever before, making the Switch 2 exclusive games even more important for them for the longevity and competitiveness of the Switch 2 in this very competitive market space.
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I'm sorry but when did the deck become an industry juggernaut. last I checked its trailing the vita, the other industry juggernaut. and i dont think nintendo gives a shit about the deck and performance. sure every pundit and forum user has one but that has had little effect on the switch's momentum, much to those peoples chagrin.

and as for the deck 2 unless valve defeats thermodynamics and capitalism it's gonna be even more expensive than deck 1 or the switch 2. and emulation of the switch has done little to no damage. other than dweebs online getting bragging rights, there's little for nintendo to worry about. it's basically an open net for nintendo which is why they might have felt comfortable delaying.
 
I don't think a device that isn't officially supported at retail, no physical, has trust issues with Verified/Playable tags even with ProtonDB, and games that have Denuvo that could even compare with the Switch. Has no one learned from the past 40 years of games?

(Also Breath of the Wild runs like shit on Steam Deck. Can't lock 40fps, has intense input lag at 30fps, gyro is dumb to enable, shader compilation issues ahoy, it is a worse experience than the Switch  LCD.)
 
Ylork said:
Yes. As I said this morning, I wouldn't be surprised to see Metroid Prime 4 released exclusively on Switch at the end of this year. Don't forget that it's a game developed and promised for Switch. And there's nothing to prevent a Switch 2 version later in 2025.
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I'd love to believe that but the rumors don't seem to be in its favor.
 
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Hajeman said:
www.tweaktown.com

Nintendo Switch made $69 billion in total revenues

Nintendo has generated over $69 billion from its Switch handheld-console family of products since the first system launched in March 2017 to March 2023.
www.tweaktown.com www.tweaktown.com

I can't find the profit one. This is for Switch revenue from March 2017 - March 2023, it's got $69 Billion revenue. And Nintendo profit more than 30% from revenue each year, so you can roughly calculate
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hey nintendo, ive been a fan for years, and i usually buy all ur (60$ btw) games
i think if you shared like 0.001% of that with such a passionate gamer like myself, you wouldnt really miss it right? like, i mean it's only fair....

u wouldnt even notice i swear
 
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Guaraná said:
Delaying Metroid Prime 4 on purpose and deciding to only release it for Switch 2 very disrespectful from Nintendo.
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That's not going to happen. Imo for the health of the game launch + longevity, their best best is to launch with the Switch 2 + Switch 1 simultaneously, not one before the other. Otherwise its identity will be tied to Switch 1 and the "newness" factor will be lost, and therefore sales on Switch 2. Nobody was offended when BotW Wii U was delayed specifically because of the Switch 1 launch, but it certainly benefited both the system and the game as it was grouped together in the collective mind and became a premiere title for "next-gen Nintendo". No one cared that for the vast majority of the Wii U lifespan, Breath of the Wild or "Zelda Wii U" was marketed, yes, as a Wii U game since the start of its generation
 
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