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Discussion According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

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We've been clowned for years, but somehow us team 2025 will really win lmao. Even I had lost "hope" that it would release in 2025.
(I do wanted it to release late 2024 now tho lol)
 
Danny said:
,Do we know if Nintendo is the only hardware maker who reguarly delays their console releases? Do Sony and Microsoft always release on schedule?
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PS3 was supposed to be released in 2005 until it got delayed to Spring 2006 and then to November 2006/
 
Kevin said:
I might be getting old but there was actually a time years ago when "corporations" actually respected consumers a lot more then they did today but it seems like most people have forgotten that.
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Nah. The same companies could also get away with outright lies in advertising due to a lack of regulation, plus the way Nintendo, Sega, Sony and co engaged with media in the 90s was often just childish console wars aimed at misleading young customers with buzzwords. The scams are different today but multinationals have never ‘respected’ customers. While it’s true that products were less complex and built to last in the past, and if you wrote a complaint letter to them you’d likely get a polite reply from a human explaining why it wasn’t covered under warranty, I don’t buy that corpos ‘respected’ people as anything more than customers to rinse for cash back then either.

That’s why they hired ad agencies to mislead us long before the idea of media literacy was a thing, back when people still believed what they read. The 80s had many gaming peripherals that barely worked, or gaming ad campaigns that were pure fiction.
 
Kevin said:
I think what bothers me most about all of this is that we have been disappointed for so many years and Nintendo still won't give us any damn information at all the thing. Like they won't say shit at all for years now. It's just exhausting really. Not even a generic "We hear you" sort of comment. Just a complete "ignore the fans as always" and hey some actual new first party games would certainly soften the blow a little but Nintendo's all like, "Nah" but here is a Partner Direct with games you don't give a shit about lol.
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As I said elsewhere, only maybe 3% tops of Nintendo’s audience sees these rumours and engages in them. My girlfriend and best friend play their Switch every week and have no idea it’s going on.

If they address us, the most concerned 1% being concerned, they both set a precedent to cover every rumour and suddenly alert the next 40% of their fan base who will only care about the Switch 2 when it gets announced. They want to create that wake up call on their own terms.
 
ITSMILNER said:
Out of interest, how many of you only have a Switch as your gaming platform? I think, for me, the disappointment is minimal because I also have a Steam Deck for my third party releases.
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I have a PC, PS4 Pro and Switch (as well as many older consoles where there are still some games left, that I already own and never played...).
So I am occupied, software-wise.

I am just curious and a bit impatient to see the next 3D Mario, Mario Kart, Monolith game; that's all.
And I want that backwards compatibility of the stronger hardware that might smoothen out the performance of some games that I haven't played yet (Bayonetta 3).
So...yeah, I can wait. It's just not fun :)
 
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I'm not a graphic whore (otherwise Nintendo wouldn't be my main console company), but for a person who plays a lot on TV mode like me, another full year waiting for the succesor is just awful. Switch was a good mobile hardware when in launched, but playing it in a TV in 2024 is sometimes difficult to diggest, between 540p or below resolutions and inconsistent fps. Yesterday I was playing TotK to get all the caves and going around Kakariko or Hateno Village was an absolute pain in the neck, the game is an absolute mess in those areas.

Switch is already 7 years old and we don't even have an official mention about the next-gen hardware. At this point is frustrating. This is not a 6 month delay in a vaccum, is a delay on top of a generation that is already lasting too long and a hardware that isn't capable to keep up for a stationary play.

That said, if the reason is the software, of course I want Nintendo games to be as polished as possible and I suppose in the end this will be the right choice. But that doesn't change that I'm very dissappointed and that this will be a bad gaming year for me.
 
Kevin said:
I think what bothers me most about all of this is that we have been disappointed for so many years and Nintendo still won't give us any damn information at all the thing. Like they won't say shit at all for years now. It's just exhausting really. Not even a generic "We hear you" sort of comment. Just a complete "ignore the fans as always" and hey some actual new first party games would certainly soften the blow a little but Nintendo's all like, "Nah" but here is a Partner Direct with games you don't give a shit about lol.
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Broaden your tastes a little if Nintendo keeps disappointing you. You don't have to rely on one publisher for games.
 
PixelKnight said:
Nah. The same companies could also get away with outright lies in advertising due to a lack of regulation, plus the way Nintendo, Sega, Sony and co engaged with media in the 90s was often just childish console wars aimed at misleading young customers with buzzwords. The scams are different today but multinationals have never ‘respected’ customers. While it’s true that products were less complex and built to last in the past, and if you wrote a letter to them you’d likely get a reply from a human, I don’t buy that corpos ‘respected’ people as anything more than customers back then- that’s why they hired ad agencies to mislead us long before the idea of media literacy was a thing, back when people still believed what they read.
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Never said that there wasn't shitty businesses practices back then. I mean shitty people existed forever but I still think companies were much much better and more respectful back then opposed to today. At least in all of my personal experiences. I am aware of the drama from Nintendo in the past. There was a good book published on it called, "Game Over: How Nintendo Conquered The World".

Danny said:
,Do we know if Nintendo is the only hardware maker who reguarly delays their console releases? Do Sony and Microsoft always release on schedule?
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Maybe but I don't recall any scenarios personally. That I'm aware of. Nintendo I think is just having a bad go of it for whatever reason and since they don't communicate much with consumers anymore outside of pre-recorded videos and tweets and the occasional developer interview, it's really hard to say what is actually going on with Switch 2 so we have to rely on information we gather from the insiders to paint a picture of how the Switch 2 is coming along. At this point I'm going to guess a March 2025 release date and hope next year we aren't talking about 2026 for the system to release.
 
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Kevin said:
Once upon a time corporations fought to win over consumers. There was a lot more respect, products were not shit quality, customer service wasn't an A. I. chatbot, companies offered longer warranties and listened when consumers complained and tried to do right by them.
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Sure, but what does that have to do with Nintendo putting out a "We hear you" message when them doing so isn't going to make the console come out sooner or make it "not shit quality" or any of that?
 
naobinokami said:
Broaden your tastes a little if Nintendo keeps disappointing you. You don't have to rely on one publisher for games.
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My main message was a simple one. That after so many years I felt it was long past time to address what is going on with Switch 2. I think a lot of people feel the same way. Doesn't mean I'm anti Nintendo or whatever. Just means that I think it's time to say something. At any rate it was just my opinion and seemingly the opinion of many on here and elsewhere but I'm getting a lot of upset folks quoting me over something simple like this.
crazybenjamin said:
Sure, but what does that have to do with Nintendo putting out a "We hear you" message when them doing so isn't going to make the console come out sooner or make it "not shit quality" or any of that?
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That response was for something else. Not going to keep elaborating. I responded to someone else with that statement. Has nothing to do with the We hear you messaging.
 
I wonder, if it's a security issue or some kind of bug that bricks the console. Could be an edge case that allows non-authorized access.
I'm thinking of issues that enabled homebrew on consoles in the past, like Flipnote Lenny (DSi), Twilight Hack (Wii), Ninjhax (3DS), or the good old DNS trick.

Or maybe it's nothing and Nintendo really needs more time to do next-gen development.
 
Alright guys and gals. I'm tired as poop after a very very very long day so I'm going to bed. Have a goodnight my fellow Famiboard friendtendos!!! Hopefully I don't wake up to insider updates about Switch 2 now launching in 2026. :)
 
Kasugano said:
I wonder, if it's a security issue or some kind of bug that bricks the console. Could be an edge case that allows non-authorized access.
I'm thinking of issues that enabled homebrew on consoles in the past, like Flipnote Lenny (DSi), Twilight Hack (Wii), Ninjhax (3DS), or the good old DNS trick.

Or maybe it's nothing and Nintendo really needs more time to do next-gen development.
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It was suggested the delay was done in order to have big titles ready and a meaty launch.
 
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Gonna sting pretty hard if the launch lineup actually isn't very good after this. I wouldn't have really cared before now, funnily enough.
 
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Kevin said:
I might be getting old but there was actually a time years ago when "corporations" actually respected consumers a lot more then they did today but it seems like most people have forgotten that. Once upon a time corporations fought to win over consumers. There was a lot more respect, products were not shit quality, customer service wasn't an A. I. chatbot, companies offered longer warranties and listened when consumers complained and tried to do right by them. Now companies put a product on the market and you either buy it or you don't. That's it. They don't give two shits about you but at least they treated you better back then.

I read a lot of these posts on these forums with people basically saying we should take whatever companies give us and keep out mouths shut but that's not how it's suppose to work. Consumers still have power over these corporations and consumers should demand more from these companies. They use to in the good old days and god do I wish I could go back in time. We live in a time where consumers role over us with an iron fist. Every single aspect of our lives are basically dictated by corporations today because consumers stopped fighting back and have been conditioned to believe that only corporations can dictate terms. They write our laws, tell us how to think, control what we read and sort us into groups via algorithms which is why we have the extreme right and extreme left. I don't even think people realize how absolutely controlled their lives have become.

Either way, I don't owe Nintendo shit. They want my money, they can earn it and maybe treat me as a consumer with a little more respect. Same goes for any company. You want my money, earn it!
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now at the "BACK IN MY DAY" shit. Give me a fucking break here. Do you honestly think there were NEVER delays back then?

Also of all the things to be "disrespected on" it's a an unconfirmed delay of an unannounced console? I'm sorry but get a goddamn grip here
 
New hardware is not coming out until they take that ps2 record, cmon everyone get one more switch for your household and let's get this thing released already
 
Lugia667 said:
now at the "BACK IN MY DAY" shit. Give me a fucking break here. Do you honestly think there were NEVER delays back then?

Also of all the things to be "disrespected on" it's a an unconfirmed delay of an unannounced console? I'm sorry but get a goddamn grip here
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Not only are you correct, lol if this forum existed in the 90s, Nintendo fans' head's would've exploded.

I remember waiting for the Super NES CD-ROM in 1992, 1993, 1994 ... nothing then eventually cancelled entirely, then they announce the N64 (Project: Reality) which they promised for holiday 1995, that gets delayed to spring 1996, then delayed again to September 1996.

I got so angry at that point I just bought my first non-Nintendo console ever, the Playstation 1.
 
Machrider said:
Not only are you correct, lol if this forum existed in the 90s, Nintendo fans' head's would've exploded.

I remember waiting for the Super NES CD-ROM in 1992, 1993, 1994 ... nothing then eventually cancelled entirely, then they announce the N64 (Project: Reality) which they promised for holiday 1995, that gets delayed to spring 1996, then delayed again to September 1996.

I got so angry at that point I just bought my first non-Nintendo console ever, the Playstation 1.
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History repeats itself./s
 
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Kevin said:
I might be getting old but there was actually a time years ago when "corporations" actually respected consumers a lot more then they did today but it seems like most people have forgotten that. Once upon a time corporations fought to win over consumers. There was a lot more respect, products were not shit quality, customer service wasn't an A. I. chatbot, companies offered longer warranties and listened when consumers complained and tried to do right by them. Now companies put a product on the market and you either buy it or you don't. That's it. They don't give two shits about you but at least they treated you better back then.

I read a lot of these posts on these forums with people basically saying we should take whatever companies give us and keep out mouths shut but that's not how it's suppose to work. Consumers still have power over these corporations and consumers should demand more from these companies. They use to in the good old days and god do I wish I could go back in time. We live in a time where consumers role over us with an iron fist. Every single aspect of our lives are basically dictated by corporations today because consumers stopped fighting back and have been conditioned to believe that only corporations can dictate terms. They write our laws, tell us how to think, control what we read and sort us into groups via algorithms which is why we have the extreme right and extreme left. I don't even think people realize how absolutely controlled their lives have become.

Either way, I don't owe Nintendo shit. They want my money, they can earn it and maybe treat me as a consumer with a little more respect. Same goes for any company. You want my money, earn it!
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You're wrong that corporations used to respect consumers more, but right that they run our lives. There's a guy who wrote a book or two about this:

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Darknut85 said:
They said that from 2019 to 2022, I wouldn‘t read to much into that statement.
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Yeah, they've said it multiple times. But it's still clear from their messages that the Switch gen was always planned to be a long one, 1 delay doesn't change much for us.

Though I firmly believe we were supposed to have a pro model at some point, but that didn't go through for multiple reasons. Which is why these final stretches of the Switch life seem so longwinded (if that's the word)...

Triistan said:
Yes but if they want to have more stock at launch having more time could help, especially if they announce it by June they don’t have to worry about production leaks.
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Yeah, i agree. If they were in need of more stock the delay helps 100%. But we don't really know whether they could or couldn't produce enough systems for a release this year.

It would be better if they could produce more systems at a faster rate, than to start (too) early.

But either way, I still expect scalpers to try to make money of the system lol. It probably won't be as bad as PS5 though.
 
I don't think I bought a single Wii U game in 2016, so getting the TTYD remake and potentially the Peach game is already an improvement over that LOL
 
It would be nice if they had a decent cross gen plan and we can still get some of those games for Switch this fall and they marketed as "play on Switch now and it'll be even better on the next system if you choose to upgrade next March."

The system delay itself doesn't bug me. What bugs me is how last minute it appeared to be and how it may impact the quantity and quality of first party releases this year.
 
Scrawnton said:
It would be nice if they had a decent cross gen plan and we can still get some of those games for Switch this fall and they marketed as "play on Switch now and it'll be even better on the next system if you choose to upgrade next March."

The system delay itself doesn't bug me. What bugs me is how last minute it appeared to be and how it may impact the quantity and quality of first party releases this year.
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I doubt it was last minute.
 
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Mekanos said:
I’d treat it more as informed speculation since multiple outlets are reporting on it. It’s very possible they are wrong, but it’s hard to disprove unless Nintendo announces otherwise. All we can do is wait
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It still might not be proof proof, but for sure someone would be reporting the controversy if 10 sources were saying Q1 2025 and 10 others were saying "Nope, they heard wrong."
 
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Horror Kid said:
Backlog year it is then.


The sad thing for me is that the hardware will not get stronger by postponing it.
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I think a few people in the hardware thread said that RAM, clock speeds and internal storage are the only things that can change at this point. Everything else is pretty much locked down.
 
Scrawnton said:
It would be nice if they had a decent cross gen plan and we can still get some of those games for Switch this fall and they marketed as "play on Switch now and it'll be even better on the next system if you choose to upgrade next March."

The system delay itself doesn't bug me. What bugs me is how last minute it appeared to be and how it may impact the quantity and quality of first party releases this year.
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This isn't last minute. The console isn't even announced. And officially hasn't been allowed an utterance.
 
For Switch software this year, they can grab some of the titles that were meant to be crossgen titles and just release them as Switch games.
 
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I'm not the first to make this quip, but Nintendo did indeed talk to Famiboards this week:

And in all seriousness: Nintendo is a video game company. They don't owe their fans anything beyond the products that are actually for sale. The absence of reports from Eurogamer et al. before the recent news has always been an indicator that a new system was years away.
Therefore, I think this news is actually positive. I now expect with some confidence that we'll get some official info within 6 months.
 
kirbyfan407 said:
I see it more as half a year than a whole year. As for what they could bring...if they could have a Switch 2 lineup that starts with a 3D AAA Platformer (Mario or DK) that is then followed by the next Kirby game, the next Monolith Soft game, the next Mario Party, a Zelda release, a Platinum exclusive, some big third-party exclusive, and perhaps culminates in Mario Kart 10 at the holidays, that seems like a big year. I think some of what I'm proposing doesn't make sense for a first year, but I also think I'm forgetting some stuff and that Nintendo always has surprises. It won't happen, but a reality where GTA VI is a launch game for Switch 2 would also be interesting.

Unless...are you talking about them justifying leaving 2024 to Switch? If Switch 2 isn't ready, it isn't ready, whether they have big things planned for Switch or not. It could be a light year for software, perhaps filled with remakes and smaller titles. Hopefully we still get Metroid Prime 4, FE4 remake, and some surprises this year. Maybe Pokemon will have something, too. I could also see Nintendo looking into price cuts on either software or hardware to keep up sales and clear stock.

As for the contract...since that was a contract between Microsoft and Nintendo, I'm sure either Nintendo or Microsoft could propose adjustments to the contract that the other could accept. Maybe Nintendo says, "We want CoD on Swtich this year" and Microsoft delivers, or maybe Microsoft says "We'd like to wait to wait for Switch 2" and Nintendo says "As long as it's a launch game" and then they shake hands.
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I was referring to 24 being the original switch. A lot of people will be waiting for switch 2 ESPECIALLY if they announce it next month. I don't see any game in the horizon I would purchase this year. It will be interesting to see how they pull this off.
 
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I am pretty dissapointed. To me it seems as if Nintendo is launching in 2025 with hardware from 2020. Could be wrong though, i hope so at least.

It would be better to release the new system, like everyone was expecting in 2022 and treat it like an iterative system. I'd buy immediately a Switch 2 with an OLED and just 2 or 3x the power, to play older games with better framerate, resolution and HDR output. But now its to late for that, they have to start again and push the next Switch to create hype.

Now we are speaking about this T239 chip since two years. If it dind't change to more modern standards, it 'll be hardware that cannot hold up for the next 7 years, so i see us crying for better hardware again, in the end of its lifecycle. I was just hoping Nintendo starts to hold up again, use this hype for the next system and break through their "behind the competition" stigma. With Switch they were close enough, but they lost to much time for the transition again.
 
Kool Savis said:
Now we are speaking about this T239 chip since two years. If it dind't change to more modern standards, it 'll be hardware that cannot hold up for the next 7 years, so i see us crying for better hardware again, in the end of its lifecycle. I was just hoping Nintendo starts to hold up again, use this hype for the next system and break through their "behind the competition" stigma. With Switch they were close enough, but they lost to much time for the transition again.
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people keep saying this even though it's been explained many times. so tell me, what would make it more "modern" that the t239 lacks?
 
RodneyPump said:
This isn't last minute.
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Our view of things is a bit skewed since the time it takes from something being decided internally to something managing to leak out isn't a constant. But it feels like a pretty quick turnaround if everybody's hearing about a Q1 2025 launch very recently, but a month ago was hearing about a March announcement in preparation for a 2024 launch.
 
Kevin said:
I might be getting old but there was actually a time years ago when "corporations" actually respected consumers a lot more then they did today but it seems like most people have forgotten that. Once upon a time corporations fought to win over consumers. There was a lot more respect, products were not shit quality, customer service wasn't an A. I. chatbot, companies offered longer warranties and listened when consumers complained and tried to do right by them. Now companies put a product on the market and you either buy it or you don't. That's it. They don't give two shits about you but at least they treated you better back then.

I read a lot of these posts on these forums with people basically saying we should take whatever companies give us and keep out mouths shut but that's not how it's suppose to work. Consumers still have power over these corporations and consumers should demand more from these companies. They use to in the good old days and god do I wish I could go back in time. We live in a time where consumers role over us with an iron fist. Every single aspect of our lives are basically dictated by corporations today because consumers stopped fighting back and have been conditioned to believe that only corporations can dictate terms. They write our laws, tell us how to think, control what we read and sort us into groups via algorithms which is why we have the extreme right and extreme left. I don't even think people realize how absolutely controlled their lives have become.

Either way, I don't owe Nintendo shit. They want my money, they can earn it and maybe treat me as a consumer with a little more respect. Same goes for any company. You want my money, earn it!
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Nintendo releasing their new console a few months later than you personally anticipated is not "disrespectful".

They haven't publicly committed to any release date
 
ILikeFeet said:
people keep saying this even though it's been explained many times. so tell me, what would make it more "modern" that the t239 lacks?
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Look (i hope i can expain it corectly, cause english is not my main language),
if it would release now, with the roumored specs we are allways talking about, it'd be a nice hardware for the next 6 to 7 years and could even get some ports from PS5. Now a 2-3 Tlops, 4N TSMC node chip from NVIDIA with DLSS and some Raytracing is really capable. But imagine in 2 Years you could get a PS6 with 24 TFlops, FSR 4 and like 32 GB Ram. The roumored Switch 2 could again not hold up, and there we are again half baked ports, sub HD resolutions and frame stuttering. Thats, why its underpowered.
 
Kevin said:
I might be getting old but there was actually a time years ago when "corporations" actually respected consumers a lot more then they did today but it seems like most people have forgotten that. Once upon a time corporations fought to win over consumers. There was a lot more respect, products were not shit quality, customer service wasn't an A. I. chatbot, companies offered longer warranties and listened when consumers complained and tried to do right by them. Now companies put a product on the market and you either buy it or you don't. That's it. They don't give two shits about you but at least they treated you better back then.

I read a lot of these posts on these forums with people basically saying we should take whatever companies give us and keep out mouths shut but that's not how it's suppose to work. Consumers still have power over these corporations and consumers should demand more from these companies. They use to in the good old days and god do I wish I could go back in time. We live in a time where consumers role over us with an iron fist. Every single aspect of our lives are basically dictated by corporations today because consumers stopped fighting back and have been conditioned to believe that only corporations can dictate terms. They write our laws, tell us how to think, control what we read and sort us into groups via algorithms which is why we have the extreme right and extreme left. I don't even think people realize how absolutely controlled their lives have become.

Either way, I don't owe Nintendo shit. They want my money, they can earn it and maybe treat me as a consumer with a little more respect. Same goes for any company. You want my money, earn it!
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How in the world does Nintendo not spilling the beans and/or being slow in offering a successor system relate to any of this, though?
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Our view of things is a bit skewed since the time it takes from something being decided internally to something managing to leak out isn't a constant. But it feels like a pretty quick turnaround if everybody's hearing about a Q1 2025 launch very recently, but a month ago was hearing about a March announcement in preparation for a 2024 launch.
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I get what you mean.

But it's all rumors. Switch Pro, March 24, Late 24, Q1 25. Whether any of it was ever true or not we won't really know until it happens. There's a ton of things to sort out with internally and externally when launching a new product, and arrangements with partners, vendors, distributors changing now and then isn't uncommon. Big changes are a bit uncommon, but we don't even know if it is a big or sudden change, because we don't know if htat launch time was ever set in stone in the first place. But for all intents and purposes, it's a rumor of a delay of a rumor of a launch window for an unannounced product we have no feedback on, so to me it doesn't come across as last minute. It comes across as nothing at all either way
 
How peaceful it must be for someone who doesn't follow gaming news or discourse whatsoever, who is just enjoying their Switch and their games with no anticipation for a future hardware, at least not the persistent anticipation that has dwelled in the minds of enthusiast gamers.

For someone who bought their Switch on launch day, they've been getting at least eight years of software support with a killer library. Even with a dwindling number of releases this year, there remains a massive backlog of titles. Someone buying a Switch right now would be spoiled with options.
 
People talking about Switch 2 being underpowered but if the system is a success devs will put their games on it.

Dev costs are stupid at the moment, they’ll want to maximise how much they can make by bringing games to everything they can. Wouldn’t be surprised if some actually aim for Switch 2 specs and then up res them for PS/XB consoles.
 
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