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Discussion According to @Brazil podcast 'X do Controle' Nintendo Switch 2 will release in march 2025 - Summary updated [Eurogamer is corroborating]

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I don’t believe Nintendo is letting people down, far from it really. They have been quite consistent (barring 2020 due to reasons we all know).

I think the real reason some folks are disappointed is that so far 2024 for videogame news has been quite a bummer. With lay offs, delays of games, Microsoft’s less than stellar performance, Sony announcing no major titles this year etc it adds up to a very quiet year ahead.

I think people want to cling to some positive news haha
 
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Kevin said:
I think what bothers me most about all of this is that we have been disappointed for so many years and Nintendo still won't give us any damn information at all the thing. Like they won't say shit at all for years now. It's just exhausting really. Not even a generic "We hear you" sort of comment. Just a complete "ignore the fans as always" and hey some actual new first party games would certainly soften the blow a little but Nintendo's all like, "Nah" but here is a Partner Direct with games you don't give a shit about lol.
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I'm sorry but if anyone is angry at Nintendo for some stupid rumors that is on them. Why is it Nintendo's responsibility to answer every rumor out there? Look, I remember the upcoming launch of the switch and people were confidently saying that within the Switch's first two years, we would see a brand new Switch Pro, literal days after the January Switch event.

Hell, Nintendo hasn't even announced the Nintendo Partner Direct, and to the vast vast vast vast majority of people, when the announce the partner direct is when it will be announced. Nintendo is not obligated nor should it be required to cater to the small percentile of people who listen to leakers every word than rejoice or get angry at others at every rumor or leak.

If people are getting this mad over a rumor, to the point where they need NIntendo to make a statement...maybe it's time to stop paying attention to these things period. There are so many other things one can do instead. Like work on your backlog, or watch a movie/tv show/anime, or something other than brooding over a nothing rumor that won't really affect things in the long run.
 
NBOctoling said:
I'm sorry but if anyone is angry at Nintendo for some stupid rumors that is on them. Why is it Nintendo's responsibility to answer every rumor out there? Look, I remember the upcoming launch of the switch and people were confidently saying that within the Switch's first two years, we would see a brand new Switch Pro, literal days after the January Switch event.

Hell, Nintendo hasn't even announced the Nintendo Partner Direct, and to the vast vast vast vast majority of people, when the announce the partner direct is when it will be announced. Nintendo is not obligated nor should it be required to cater to the small percentile of people who listen to leakers every word than rejoice or get angry at others at every rumor or leak.

If people are getting this mad over a rumor, to the point where they need NIntendo to make a statement...maybe it's time to stop paying attention to these things period. There are so many other things one can do instead. Like work on your backlog, or watch a movie/tv show/anime, or something other than brooding over a nothing rumor that won't really affect things in the long run.
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They don’t have to, of course, but this rumor has such a big impact on stock that some communication could be in their interest. The chances are 1/10, though.
 
NBOctoling said:
I'm sorry but if anyone is angry at Nintendo for some stupid rumors that is on them. Why is it Nintendo's responsibility to answer every rumor out there? Look, I remember the upcoming launch of the switch and people were confidently saying that within the Switch's first two years, we would see a brand new Switch Pro, literal days after the January Switch event.

Hell, Nintendo hasn't even announced the Nintendo Partner Direct, and to the vast vast vast vast majority of people, when the announce the partner direct is when it will be announced. Nintendo is not obligated nor should it be required to cater to the small percentile of people who listen to leakers every word than rejoice or get angry at others at every rumor or leak.

If people are getting this mad over a rumor, to the point where they need NIntendo to make a statement...maybe it's time to stop paying attention to these things period. There are so many other things one can do instead. Like work on your backlog, or watch a movie/tv show/anime, or something other than brooding over a nothing rumor that won't really affect things in the long run.
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Switch is old, I feel like Nintendo could have given some kind of update by now on the future of Nintendo hardware. Not a big ask. I won't apologize for being disappointed in Nintendo's very little communication over the years. Not blaming Nintendo for the YEARS of rumors but at this point it really is time for some kind of response. Fans have been asking for new hardware for YEARS now and Nintendo always gives the same "nothing to announce" response every year. They don't owe us anything, sure, but it would certainly be the right thing to do in my opinion.
 
majimazio said:
Brazil claims that any releases this year are small titles, MP4 is clearly not a small title. MP4 was a cross-gen launch title for Switch 2, but should be considered delayed to 2025 along with Switch 2.
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He also said he doesn't know all the games releasing this year
 
I expect the next gen XBOX in 2026. If Nintendo can delay it 1 more year it would cover 3 gens

XBOX ONE- XBOX Series and NEXT gen XBOX
PS4-PS5 and maybe PS6 in 2026 too

come on Nintendo release it 2026
 
Darknut85 said:
They don’t have to, of course, but this rumor has such a big impact on stock that some communication could be in their interest. The chances are 1/10, though.
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What can they actually say that would reverse the stock hit? If they confirm it, the stock tanks further. If it's not true, then its within their best interest to weather the storm until the actual planned reveal since they want to sell it.

At best, you would be looking at a boilerplate statement that neither confirms nor denies nor does anything but state nothing mixed with a bunch of legal and technical jargon.

Kevin said:
Switch is old, I feel like Nintendo could have given some kind of update by now on the future of Nintendo hardware. Not a big ask. I won't apologize for being disappointed in Nintendo's very little communication over the years. Not blaming Nintendo for the YEARS of rumors but at this point it really is time for some kind of response. Fans have been asking for new hardware for YEARS now and Nintendo always gives the same "nothing to announce" response every year. They don't owe us anything, sure, but it would certainly be the right thing to do in my opinion.
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I mean...they did. It was a boilerplate statement talking about continuing the legacy of the switch. I'm not sure why people are expecting anything more here.

And...of course they have nothing to announce. Why would they talk about the Switch 2 at any business meeting? Why would they risk any damage to the Switch's momentum until it's time to announce it? What benefit does it serve Nintendo? Like, what? Nintendo should shoot it's own gaming schedule in the foot to please a small minority of people?

At best, we will get some small statement in March/April's investment meeting since we should be 1 year or less from the release date. Two months can't be that long of a wait time. I'd recommend taking a break from rumor reading like mad and just....do something else. Anything else. Obsessing over a console to the point where it becomes an emotional core isn't healthy.
 
NBOctoling said:
What can they actually say that would reverse the stock hit? If they confirm it, the stock tanks further. If it's not true, then its within their best interest to weather the storm until the actual planned reveal since they want to sell it.

At best, you would be looking at a boilerplate statement that neither confirms nor denies nor does anything but state nothing mixed with a bunch of legal and technical jargon.


I mean...they did. It was a boilerplate statement talking about continuing the legacy of the switch. I'm not sure why people are expecting anything more here.

And...of course they have nothing to announce. Why would they talk about the Switch 2 at any business meeting? Why would they risk any damage to the Switch's momentum until it's time to announce it? What benefit does it serve Nintendo? Like, what? Nintendo should shoot it's own gaming schedule in the foot to please a small minority of people?

At best, we will get some small statement in March/April's investment meeting since we should be 1 year or less from the release date. Two months can't be that long of a wait time. I'd recommend taking a break from rumor reading like mad and just....do something else. Anything else. Obsessing over a console to the point where it becomes an emotional core isn't healthy.
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The point is that the Switch has been on the market for a very long time and clearly people want to move on. I'm not the only one disappointed or obsessing. Damn near this entire site and many folks on the internet are doing the same. The fans have been ready for something new for a long time now.
 
NBOctoling said:
What can they actually say that would reverse the stock hit? If they confirm it, the stock tanks further. If it's not true, then its within their best interest to weather the storm until the actual planned reveal since they want to sell it.

At best, you would be looking at a boilerplate statement that neither confirms nor denies nor does anything but state nothing mixed with a bunch of legal and technical jargon.


I mean...they did. It was a boilerplate statement talking about continuing the legacy of the switch. I'm not sure why people are expecting anything more here.

And...of course they have nothing to announce. Why would they talk about the Switch 2 at any business meeting? Why would they risk any damage to the Switch's momentum until it's time to announce it? What benefit does it serve Nintendo? Like, what? Nintendo should shoot it's own gaming schedule in the foot to please a small minority of people?

At best, we will get some small statement in March/April's investment meeting since we should be 1 year or less from the release date. Two months can't be that long of a wait time. I'd recommend taking a break from rumor reading like mad and just....do something else. Anything else. Obsessing over a console to the point where it becomes an emotional core isn't healthy.
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Agree, because of that I said it‘s 1/10.
 
Kevin said:
The point is that the Switch has been on the market for a very long time and clearly people want to move on. I'm not the only one disappointed or obsessing. Damn near this entire site and many folks on the internet are doing the same. The fans have been ready for something new for a long time now.
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Because we visit websites where this has been a clear interest. I went and talk to most of my friends who play the Switch. They haven't heard the news and most are happy if it is being delayed because it means they can finish their backlogs.

Certain fans have wanted to move on since literally before the Switch launched. The actual data seems to suggest that the Switch will happily sell and serve many families regardless of rumors and leaks. Like this thread is spiraling because people are so glued in they are listening for any delay and getting more and more depressed, angry and outraged because...of a delay of 4-6 months? Oh no? Even if it was delayed to November 2025, there is nothing to discuss because this is all just hearsay. We don't even know what games are on the system nor what games are planned, which are the things that actually matter far more than the specs.

Again, if you are this emotionally invested, I highly suggest doing literally anything else to center yourself.
 
While I get people's disapointment, let's not go crazy here demanding Nintendo make a statement or an apology or something. Nintendo never promised us anything, nor have they officially announced a new console is coming. Delays happen in manufacturing and development and because Nintendo have yet to issue a public confirmation, they don't owe us an explanation for a delay that's an internal one. It does suck, but let's not act like Nintendo acted like great betrayors or something.

And I'm speaking as someone whose launch Switch seems on the cusp of dying, with its battery dead to the point that it can't be played undocked anymore, who was hoping a successor would come this year and now has to make a calculation as to whether it's worth buying a new console just to keep playing my Switch library now it's likely going to be a 12 month wait or even more for the new one. Like it really sucks, but there are things more worth getting worked up over
 
VDenter said:
When the same cycle repeats itself inevitably after the Switch 2 comes out and you start hearing rumors about a "Switch 2 Pro" in 2028 from "insiders" don't fall for it.
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i promise you you won't have to wait until 2028. it'll be late 2026 and the insiders will already be using switch 2 pro in their titles and content to get engagement.
 
Switch 2 waiters taking on an ounce of the pain Donkey Kong fans have had waiting over a decade for a new game

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at the end of the day, nintendo is in the business of delivering good games, the console is just the vehicle for that. don't confuse twitter and online forum disappointment with general negativity towards nintendo. the general public and the vast majority of nintendo fans seem happy with what they've been doing during the switch era, as evidenced by the critical and commercial success of most of the games they've delivered so far. as far as nintendo is concerned they had an amazing 2023, and already have 3 games for the first 3 months of 2024. the situation is not similar to the final years of wii or wii u, where game releases had dried up and console sales had fallen off a cliff.

yes, switch is really old hardware at this point, and some games are not running as well as they could have on better hardware, but that's not really that big of a concern for nintendo and most of their fans.
 
On the one hand, this is coming from enough places it seems hard to refute, but on the other hand, reporting on upcoming Nintendo hardware has been a dumpster fire for years at this point, with some rather extreme misses. That doesn't exactly make this easy to just accept.
 
Back in 2021, or whenever that was, Nintendo said the Switch was at the halfway point. And people said no way that's true. Now that that statement is looking to be true, people are mad at Nintendo lol.

Triistan said:
Hopefully If the delay is true we are avoiding stocks/scalpers issues 🤞🏻
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A Switch 2 delay wouldn't change anything about stock, because production would be delayed as well. They're not going to hold stock in a warehouse somewhere for months, that's just money lost.
 
This year will be the year of remakes/remasters for Nintendo (and I’m okay with it), we already know about LM2 HD and PMTYD. They can now pull the trigger with WW and TP (I want DKC:R remaster also), and other Wii/GC games (MP2, MP3, F-Zero GX etc.)
 
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Ahmed said:
Back in 2021, or whenever that was, Nintendo said the Switch was at the halfway point. And people said no way that's true. Now that that statement is looking to be true, people are mad at Nintendo lol.


A Switch 2 delay wouldn't change anything about stock, because production would be delayed as well. They're not going to hold stock in a warehouse somewhere for months, that's just money lost.
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They said that from 2019 to 2022, I wouldn‘t read to much into that statement.
 
Ahmed said:
A Switch 2 delay wouldn't change anything about stock, because production would be delayed as well. They're not going to hold stock in a warehouse somewhere for months, that's just money lost.
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Yes but if they want to have more stock at launch having more time could help, especially if they announce it by June they don’t have to worry about production leaks.
 
VintoWin said:
So I guess we aren't treating this as a "rumor" anymore?
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I’d treat it more as informed speculation since multiple outlets are reporting on it. It’s very possible they are wrong, but it’s hard to disprove unless Nintendo announces otherwise. All we can do is wait
 
MetalLord said:
how someone from brazil,a country that dont even have a nintendo branch or even developers that work with nintendo got the scoop before everyone else ?
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What even is this? Journalists, technology, travel, industry contacts and the internet exist, funnily enough the media industry doesn’t revolve around everyone having an uncle at Nintendo. People can talk to people from other countries, I don’t get how that’s some kind of questionable concept when that’s what we’re doing here.
 
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Kevin said:
I think what bothers me most about all of this is that we have been disappointed for so many years and Nintendo still won't give us any damn information at all the thing. Like they won't say shit at all for years now. It's just exhausting really. Not even a generic "We hear you" sort of comment. Just a complete "ignore the fans as always" and hey some actual new first party games would certainly soften the blow a little but Nintendo's all like, "Nah" but here is a Partner Direct with games you don't give a shit about lol.
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Sorry but this is a terrible take.

- You want a "We hear you" message... for what purpose? What do you expect them to say?

- Nintendo "won't give us any damn information about the thing" because that's not how business works. They still have their current console to sell.

- It's only "exhausting" to you because you get so worked up about it, just chill.

- They're not "ignoring the fans", they've been putting out great games pretty consistently for years now.

- You surely have to expect and more importantly understand why 9-12 months out from a new console generation the caliber of first party releases would be less? Surely the realisation that they're going to come out swinging with new gen sofware soon makes up for it?

- Yes, a Partner Direct 30 days before they REVEAL A NEW CONSOLE GENERATION. Can't you understand that ?
 
ITSMILNER said:
Out of interest, how many of you only have a Switch as your gaming platform? I think, for me, the disappointment is minimal because I also have a Steam Deck for my third party releases.
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I only have a Switch, and really couldn’t care less about a wait of an extra few months on something that hasn’t even been announced. There’s stacks of third party stuff I’m looking forward to this year, as pretty much everything is a Switch game to me. If I get to play Contra: Operation Galuga, Shiren, Unicorn Overlord, Eiyuden Chronicle, Ys X, Mina the Hollower, R-Type Tactics II and Trails from Daybreak that’ll take me most of the year even if I don’t touch my backlog or Nintendo doesn’t release anything. If they put out that Fire Emblem remake that’ll happily tide me over too.

I mean, sure, I’m looking forward to whatever Nintendo make next too. But then I rarely buy hardware at launch anyway, as the end of a system is usually when it gets some good games and sales on all the stuff I missed. I don’t really feel a need to chase the zeitgeist, I’m happy enough catching up on stuff from a year or two behind when the sales line up with my eshop wishlist. Systems at launch are when they have the weakest lineup they’ll ever have.
 
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ITSMILNER said:
Out of interest, how many of you only have a Switch as your gaming platform? I think, for me, the disappointment is minimal because I also have a Steam Deck for my third party releases.
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I have a Series S but that's my back up and Switch is my primary system and has been since I got it in October 2017. Overall this doesn't bother me that much because there's a plethora of games available on it I want to play, and there's still stuff for 2024 that I'm either interested in or will definitely get. I've also got stuff to catch up on from 2023, so I won't lack for games. If stuff like Indiana Jones turns out well, I can always resub to GamePass at the end of this year to play Indy, Hellblade 2 etc.

Right now Nintendo's 2024 line up absolutely doesn't interest me, other than Side Order, so the year is a little disappointing on that front. But, crucially, it's only February, and I'd bet if the 2025 launch is true, Nintendo are rearranging their plans for the year. Metroid and Fire Emblem this year would be a big positive for me on top of stuff like Ys X, Prince of Persia, Mina the Hollower, Side Order.
 
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Out of interest, how many of you only have a Switch as your gaming platform? I think, for me, the disappointment is minimal because I also have a Steam Deck for my third party releases.
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I'm one of those, although I do own a Dreamcast and am currently pimping it with some SD card goodness.

My disappointment is minimal because I still have tons of games to play. Indies on Eshop that I've never touched that regularly go on sale, Japanese games and other rarities on DC that were once out of reach that are now in regular circulation (and often modded), all kinds of stuff.

Don't get me wrong, if I was an 8 hour a day gamer I might be pissed or move on to something else, but I'm not, so here I stay. It suits me, I don't need to pony-up £400 for a new system this year, and can spend some cash on games instead.
 
Mekanos said:
There could be no new video games for a decade and I’d still be finding games to play tbh
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I mean it's disappointing to hardcore gamers or people with specific interests and we can't disregard that. We are a minority though. For most people, it'll be out when it is out. I play so many games and like I've literally been playing Granblue Fantasy Relink for like a ton of hrs so far lol I might get Helldivers...FF7 Rebirth is really soon.. Dragon's Dogma II also but like nothing hits home like Nintendo and we've been anticipating it for a while so it still comes as a shock even if there are a ton of things to do in the meantime.
 
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Sorry but this is a terrible take.

- You want a "We hear you" message... for what purpose? What do you expect them to say?

- Nintendo "won't give us any damn information about the thing" because that's not how business works. They still have their current console to sell.

- It's only "exhausting" to you because you get so worked up about it, just chill.

- They're not "ignoring the fans", they've been putting out great games pretty consistently for years now.

- You surely have to expect and more importantly understand why 9-12 months out from a new console generation the caliber of first party releases would be less? Surely the realisation that they're going to come out swinging with new gen sofware soon makes up for it?

- Yes, a Partner Direct 30 days before they REVEAL A NEW CONSOLE GENERATION. Can't you understand that ?
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I just don't agree. I don't think there is some kind of "requirement" for companies not to say anything at all for years. Just as there is no requirement for companies to give us answers. My opinion is that it's the right thing to do from a consumer standpoint. There are THOUSANDS of Switch Pro and Switch 2 videos on YouTube and thousands of posts at forums like this one. Fans have been asking for years for new hardware. Nintendo doesn't owe us new hardware or a response but I still believe it to be the right thing to do considering the situation and how upset fans are getting. That's my opinion, take it or leave it.
 
Kevin said:
I just don't agree. I don't think there is some kind of "requirement" for companies not to say anything at all for years. Just as there is no requirement for companies to give us answers. My opinion is that it's the right thing to do from a consumer standpoint. There are THOUSANDS of Switch Pro and Switch 2 videos on YouTube and thousands of posts at forums like this one. Fans have been asking for years for new hardware. Nintendo doesn't owe us new hardware or a response but I still believe it to be the right thing to do considering the situation and how upset fans are getting. That's my opinion, take it or leave it.
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I agree with you. It would be courteous of them. I believe they WANT to but there is a corporate process and schedule behind everything.
 
I think the framing of "a corporation doing the right thing" is the wrong way to approach this topic. Nintendo is a business and have no obligation to do anything but fulfill demand for products as marketed. If they said the Nintendo Switch played games, but it doesn't do that and instead cleans your sink, Nintendo would be under fire for selling a misleading product. None of that is happening here. No corporation acts out of good will. They have no incentive to calm down online speculators and talk about a successor before it's ready. It doesn't make money for them to do so. It's never about what's right or what's fair.
 
ITSMILNER said:
Out of interest, how many of you only have a Switch as your gaming platform? I think, for me, the disappointment is minimal because I also have a Steam Deck for my third party releases.
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I only game on Switch. I'm happy. Recently been playing Paper Mario, Dredge, Picross, Mario Kart 8 etc.
 
So another year without the next mainline Mario title. This is getting tiring

And probably also no big blockbuster games overall
 
Mekanos said:
I think the framing of "a corporation doing the right thing" is the wrong way to approach this topic. Nintendo is a business and have no obligation to do anything but fulfill demand for products as marketed. If they said the Nintendo Switch played games, but it doesn't do that and instead cleans your sink, Nintendo would be under fire for selling a misleading product. None of that is happening here. No corporation acts out of good will. They have no incentive to calm down online speculators and talk about a successor before it's ready. It doesn't make money for them to do so. It's never about what's right or what's fair.
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I might be getting old but there was actually a time years ago when "corporations" actually respected consumers a lot more then they did today but it seems like most people have forgotten that. Once upon a time corporations fought to win over consumers. There was a lot more respect, products were not shit quality, customer service wasn't an A. I. chatbot, companies offered longer warranties and listened when consumers complained and tried to do right by them. Now companies put a product on the market and you either buy it or you don't. That's it. They don't give two shits about you but at least they treated you better back then.

I read a lot of these posts on these forums with people basically saying we should take whatever companies give us and keep out mouths shut but that's not how it's suppose to work. Consumers still have power over these corporations and consumers should demand more from these companies. They use to in the good old days and god do I wish I could go back in time. We live in a time where consumers role over us with an iron fist. Every single aspect of our lives are basically dictated by corporations today because consumers stopped fighting back and have been conditioned to believe that only corporations can dictate terms. They write our laws, tell us how to think, control what we read and sort us into groups via algorithms which is why we have the extreme right and extreme left. I don't even think people realize how absolutely controlled their lives have become.

Either way, I don't owe Nintendo shit. They want my money, they can earn it and maybe treat me as a consumer with a little more respect. Same goes for any company. You want my money, earn it!
 
,Do we know if Nintendo is the only hardware maker who reguarly delays their console releases? Do Sony and Microsoft always release on schedule?
 
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