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Just for clarification. Assuming the 2025 rumours are true, does that mean Nintendo will have to mention that the Switch successor will release in March 2025, at their meeting for the next fiscal year?
You can't accuse someone of not having evidence and then just provide feelings and no evidence for your assertion...Because 8nm is cheaper than 5nm, Smaller nodes are always more exspensive becasue Fabs can charge a premium for them.
Its possible they will just go ahead and release Prime 4 on Switch 1, even if it was originally planned as a cross gen launch title.
You're in for a ride with the XC3 ending Future Redeemed was also so good. I was saving completing my second run of XC3 for the Switch 2 but I'll just wrap it up now.Fuck it. After I am done with XC3, I will start TOTK. I can’t wait for that long. Fuck 4k and all.
I think Nintendo and Nvidia have to change the RAM controller inside the SoC in order to support the I/O rate of 9600 MT/s that LPPDR5T supports, which requires another SoC tape out, which at that point is arguably no longer T239.Could a delay to March 2025 enable them to upgrade the RAM to LPDDR5T? It could be very benefitial to them and, maybe, at a low cost, since it seems based on LPDDR5X.
If Nintendo wants to continue using the Cortex-A78C cores (here and here), then 12 Cortex-A78C cores requires two CPU clusters since the Cortex-A78C only supports up to 8 CPU cores per CPU cluster, which could introduce more latency since there's more hardware components that needs to be communicate with.-12 cores like the Orin chip
Nvidia was pretty clear Thor's using a GPU based on the Ada Lovelace architecture.Do we know if it will be Lovelace based or Blackwell?
The next-generation superchip comes packed with the cutting-edge AI capabilities first introduced in the NVIDIA Hopper™ Multi-Instance GPU architecture, along with the NVIDIA Grace™ CPU and NVIDIA Ada Lovelace GPU.
2011 Wii had Skyward Sword
They're killing any momentum they had by doing this
It's the equivalent of Wii's 2012 except they are waiting even longer
Correct.It has hardware based deep learning with Tensore Cores no?
Not the deep learning accelerator found in newer Nvidia chips that uses less processing power?
In what dimension could it have been used as a Switch Pro? It‘s basically a full generational leapIt's just wild to me that a chip that was ready back in 2022 and could have been used to make a Switch Pro, has just been sat on by Nintendo for years so they could put it in a sequel system.
If you want to have the most up to date hardware, no point in really playing on consolesHere we are, still playing on 2015 hardware for another year because Nintendo lol
Me right nowsomebody help me
¿qué?My interest in the Switch 2 has diminished greatly.
I don't know what the fuck you're doing Nintendo but it's not good. You have an amazing piece of hardware on your hands and delaying it any further than it needs to be is self sabotage. Don't fuck this up, you're going to have another Wii U on your hands.
UPDATE 8.45pm UK: Eurogamer sources can now corroboate the earlier reports that the Switch 2, once destined for release later in 2024, is now set for Q1 2025.
The console's launch moving into early next year - but still within the coming financial year - is designed to ensure Switch 2's launch line-up features as many titles as possible, Eurogamer understands.
The GPU architecture in T239 is not natively backwards compatible and there is a generational leap in performance. It would not have made a good chip for a Switch Pro.It's just wild to me that a chip that was ready back in 2022 and could have been used to make a Switch Pro, has just been sat on by Nintendo for years so they could put it in a sequel system.
Ain't no way the PS5 Pro is launching before this thing
I miss last week
I get where this misunderstanding is coming from.It has hardware based deep learning with Tensore Cores no?
Not the deep learning accelerator found in newer Nvidia chips that uses less processing power?
Wii U Speculation Threads were peak.half tempered to ignore anyone who even mentions Wii U lol
Who knew that Nintendo suits are so into console wars that they are prepared to sacrifice revenue and profits to take the top console warrior prize.This will be a pretty big bummer if true. I'm inclined to believe there is something to this because both Eurogamer and VGC are backing it up. This does make the situation really strange. No general Direct this February because there isn't enough high profile Nintendo developed software to warrant a full scale Direct. Current rumors are suggesting that a Partners Showcase may happen next week. With Switch entering its eighth year on the market, how in the world does Nintendo find itself in a situation where they need to delay? The lineup for Switch this year is very weak. Its not quite as bad as what happened with the Wii in 2011, but it will be a pretty hard fall for sales. Who knows, maybe Nintendo really wants Switch to take that top spot making it the highest selling console ever. LOL
I’ve been using my Xbox Series X for third party games for the past 2 years, so I’ll be fine as far as that goes. For first party, guess I’ll stick with Mario vs DK and Paper Mario TTYDIf you want to have the most up to date hardware, no point in really playing on consoles
At this rate we're either getting a hardware reveal in March for this year or a hardware announcement in March for next year. We likely won't have to wait too long to know if 2024 is dead or not.Just for clarification. Assuming the 2025 rumours are true, does that mean Nintendo will have to mention that the Switch successor will release in March 2025, at their meeting for the next fiscal year?
He was not correct though. The deep learning accelerator isn't found in newer Lovelace cards, its Orin specific.
Not 100% sure what you're asking, but chip development like this, based on what we've seen from AMD and Nvidia, takes 3 years. So if you wanted to replace T239 with something for a 2025 release, you would have needed to start in 2022.That's actually something I also wanted to ask about when I came into this thread; at one point of delays would the T239 have to be scrapped just to get the next "mature" chip? Wouldn't it be 2025/2026?
No one is making games with PS6 specs in mind while they're still desperate to figure out how to make games with PS5 specs profitable.If T239 is still advanced enough ahead of its competitors, it still is gonna have less time on the market before Xbox Series X2/PS6 now come out and games are being made with those power specs in mind,
TruthLet's be real; Jester's Privilege or no, everytime Raccoon has had reason to mock Fami he's always been right.
No clue. Custom SOCs for mass market devices that last more than a couple years are pretty rare, and we only have knowledge on T239's tapeout because the Lapsus hack gave us data we could cross-check elsewhere. That was an unprecedented event.I wonder if the NVN2 info even applies at this point, to be honest. The T239 will be taped out three years ago by 2025, has a chip ever been sit upon for this long?
By 2026 or 2027 or 2028 or whatever, it’ll be dated hardware too but I guess Microsoft wants you to keep playing it on it because MicrosoftI’ve been using my Xbox Series X for third party games for the past 2 years, so I’ll be fine as far as that goes. For first party, guess I’ll stick with Mario vs DK and Paper Mario TTYD
I keep beating this dead horse but this is also with whatever team they supposedly have in charge of handling their OS and NSO having barely done jack shit lately. Genesis NSO hasn't been updated since June of last year, Nintendo can't even bother dropping at least one GBA ROM per month, E-shop still runs like shit, etc.This will be a pretty big bummer if true. I'm inclined to believe there is something to this because both Eurogamer and VGC are backing it up. This does make the situation really strange. No general Direct this February because there isn't enough high profile Nintendo developed software to warrant a full scale Direct. Current rumors are suggesting that a Partners Showcase may happen next week. With Switch entering its eighth year on the market, how in the world does Nintendo find itself in a situation where they need to delay? The lineup for Switch this year is very weak. Its not quite as bad as what happened with the Wii in 2011, but it will be a pretty hard fall for sales. Who knows, maybe Nintendo really wants Switch to take that top spot making it the highest selling console ever. LOL
Yeah, kinda glad now.So glad I bought the OLED…
Remember when people thought it would be replaced in 12-24 months?
I almost held off myself.
Thraktor never mentioned anything about the Deep Learning Accelerators (DLAs) though.He was not correct though. Newer The deep learning accelerator isn't found in newer Lovelace cards, its Orin specific.
do you hold your system by the screens instead of the frame lolYeah, kinda glad now.
(Although the screen is fragile, mine has a few cracks already, something that didn't happen to my OG Switch).
Yea that part was correct, but the second half of the sentence was mistaken.Thraktor never mentioned anything about the Deep Learning Accelerators (DLAs) though.
And N 2 Deep was asking if T239 was using Tensor cores to do hardware based deep learning and not the DLAs, which is correct.
I will remember when I was and what I was doing when Switch 2 was delayed to 2025
To be fair, anytime there's a major announcement or something in the gaming industry I'd say most of us will remember what we were doing, because the answer will be "shitposting on famiboards dot com"