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Shish said:
Is it just me or has the Nintendo Switch trailer disappeared?
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OH MY GOODNESS!

There's no reason in the world to have done this!

It still gets views, it still works as publicity, it's still a really good trailer! They didn't take it down for the Lite or OLED Model reveal.


I have to wonder. Is this it?

Is it finally going to happen?
 
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mjayer said:
Bro I so want this. I want Jensen to walk out like a PIMP in the big Nintendo event showcasing the next console and proceed to wax eloquent about Drake. How good would that be? Please be a true rumor.



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Leak Express: Nvidia wants its name on Switch 2.The work of customizing the chip for the new Nintendo console was such and they are so proud of the result that they want to be part of the presentation of the console or even have the Nvidia brand appear on the box.

SUPER (NVIDIA) POWER
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Edit : Nevermind.
 
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Concernt said:
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.


THERE IS NO REASON IN THE WORLD TO DO THIS.

It still gets views, it still works as publicity, it's still an AWESOME trailer! They didn't take it down for the Lite or OLED Model reveal.


Is... Is this it?

Is it finally happening. Am I going to cry.
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it's coming up on the seven year anniversary Friday, I think it's specifically SEO to try and give Wonder the day to itself
 
Noleth said:
(Reposting what I said in the other thread)

This could just be due to song rights. Nothing too major, just coincidental timing.
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So they would have licensed sound rights for 7 years ? That’s quite random and I don’t believe it
 
Concernt said:
HOLY FUCKING SHIT.


THERE IS NO REASON IN THE WORLD TO DO THIS.

It still gets views, it still works as publicity, it's still an AWESOME trailer! They didn't take it down for the Lite or OLED Model reveal.


Is... Is this it?

Is it finally happening. Am I going to cry.
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There is 1 reason: Licensing. There is music in the trailer. A 7 year license for the music seems to make sense in this context.
 
P4bl0 said:
In this case it should have been taken down on Friday and not today
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It still is close enough for me to call it. The contract for this stuff almost certainly doesn't limit when Nintendo can take down the video, at least that wouldn't make much sense to me. I imagine it's a lot like paying bills. You do it before they're due, not on the final day you can pay. It's just better to be on top of that kind of thing.
 
P4bl0 said:
In this case it should have been taken down on Friday and not today
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They’re right it’s probably just music. It’s close enough and I think Kit and Krista or someone at Nintendo, discussed this many years ago for why a YouTube video would be taken down.
 
carbvan said:
There is 1 reason: Licensing. There is music in the trailer. A 7 year license for the music seems to make sense in this context.
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Typically licences for trailers uploaded like this are pretty flexible, and if that was the case, it would have been communicated to GameSpot. Basically, if it's licencing or copyright, it's likely that any official re-uploads would also be gone.
 
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Raccoon said:
everybody always says it's music licensing but it's like never music licensing
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Nonsense
They just removed this waste of space to make a 5 hours essay on why the Virtual Boy was actually their best console and everybody should be ashamed. They Hideo Kojima walks on scene, talks about respecting women while Quiet is naked behind him and doing her sexy dance under the rain.

Then David Cage says that his next script is 2000 pages long and Elliot Page kicks him in the nuts. Miyamoto approves and shoots David Cage with a shotgun at point blank.

Switch 2: The Next Generation.
Make it so, number 1.
 
Concernt said:
Typically licences for trailers uploaded like this are pretty flexible, and if that was the case, it would have been communicated to GameSpot. Basically, if it's licencing or copyright, it's likely that any official re-uploads would also be gone.
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this is 100% Nintendo shenanigans. maybe hardware, probably Mario coming out on the anniversary
 
I don't think it's music licensing, the dates don't match and it's the freaking Switch reveal of all things. Can't they renegotiate that for a little more until the successor is unveiled? I don't know about you guys, this seems very intentional.
 
Concernt said:
It wouldn't be the first time by any means, if anything the LACK of Nvidia branding on ANY part of Nintendo Switch was the exception, not the rule.
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Also, the Switch was the first, and likely only Nintendo console with an off-the-shelf chip rather than a custom one. If Nvidia is planning to use this console to entice developers to get DLSS compatibility with PC ports, it makes total sense that Nintendo would want to give Nvidia that extra bit of advertising.
 
I'm not convinced by the "don't overshadow Wonder" idea at all. Why would they just NOW take it down after dozens of first party Nintendo Switch releases, several in October? I mean sure it has Mario Odyssey, but they didn't take it down for the release of Bowser's Fury. If it was SEO related, then surely it would have been taken down around the time of the Lite and/or OLED reveal, no? Wouldn't Nintendo WANT people to see the core ad for their platform? If they wanted a different video to be served, why didn't they take it down when they uploaded "Welcome to Nintendo Switch"?

If I search "Nintendo Switch" on YouTube, the first three results are Nintendo Switch 2 related already, funny enough. If I narrow it down to "For You" suggestions related to the search, then ironically I get "Welcome to Nintendo Switch ".

If it was intended as SEO; it hasn't worked, and having worked with SEO myself, this would be a pretty unusual, ineffective attempt at it.
 
Concernt said:
I'm not convinced by the "don't overshadow Wonder" idea at all. Why would they just NOW take it down after dozens of first party Nintendo Switch releases, several in October? I mean sure it has Mario Odyssey, but they didn't take it down for the release of Bowser's Fury. If it was SEO related, then surely it would have been taken down around the time of the Lite and/or OLED reveal, no? Wouldn't Nintendo WANT people to see the core ad for their platform? If they wanted a different video to be served, why didn't they take it down when they uploaded "Welcome to Nintendo Switch"?
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Same thoughts here, it really doesn't add up this time as some SEO related takedown. This doesn't seem to be matching with previous real patterns, especially considering the date we're currently in... Idk, I've been around all the times they happened, but this just seems strange.
 
qwerp said:
They privatised the OLED and Lite trailers in 2022 for the announcement of the Splatoon 3 OLED model.
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Out of curiosity: back then, what was the time span between the original OLED trailer going dark and the S3 OLED announcement?

That might give us an idea of when to expect NG-related news!
 
The Switch video being made private is probably due to music licensing for Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah), which is the same reason the OLED trailer went private last year (although it seems to be back now?). It is amusing that the console lasted longer than the licensing for its iconic reveal trailer.
 
Lancelot said:
Same thoughts here, it really doesn't add up this time as some SEO related takedown. This doesn't seem to be matching with previous real patterns, especially considering the date we're currently in... Idk, I've been around all the times they happened, but this just seems strange.
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If I may, I will note that the Lite reveal disappeared around the time OLED was revealed, and the OLED reveal was privated briefly before revealing the Splatoon 3 special edition. Nintendo are no strangers to this type of SEO, this exact strategy. Previously, it was revisions getting trailers taken down for a trailer of a new revision or edition.

Now. It's a CONSOLE reveal trailer being taken down, THE REVEAL. Which logically seems to indicate that if this is SEO, then it's SEO to favour a console reveal. Notably, the console reveal trailer was never taken down or privated prior to any reveal of a REVISION.

If we are to believe, or find any pattern. The pattern is clear.

They want a "First Look at [X]" trailer to show up instead of "First Look at Nintendo Switch".
 
LiC said:
The Switch video being made private is probably due to music licensing for Ha Ha Ha Ha (Yeah), which is the same reason the OLED trailer went private last year (although it seems to be back now?). It is amusing that the console lasted longer than the licensing for its iconic reveal trailer.
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I'm sorry, but this isn't true. As you said, the OLED Model trailer is back, and it was privated for SEO for the Splatoon 3 Special Edition, not due to rights issues. Furthermore, the Nintendo Switch reveal is, like the OLED Model trailer was, privated, and not removed, while mirrors, including those by significant publications, remain up with no licencing issues or georestrictions. If it was licencing related, then the videos would have been removed, not merely privated, they would have been removed from mirrors, or had mirrors copyright struck, and the OLED trailer wouldn't have COME BACK.

Nintendo also employs half decent lawyers, and they have COUNTLESS trailers going back years, dozens of Nintendo Directs, and it's unusual for any of them to go down despite very complicated licencing. In general, trailers such as this have licencing that's more or less in perpetuity, and that's, in advertising, generally the norm. At least where I live.
 
Concernt said:
If I may, I will note that the Lite reveal disappeared around the time OLED was revealed, and the OLED reveal was privated briefly before revealing the Splatoon 3 special edition. Nintendo are no strangers to this type of SEO, this exact strategy. Previously, it was revisions getting trailers taken down for a trailer of a new revision or edition.

Now. It's a CONSOLE reveal trailer being taken down, THE REVEAL. Which logically seems to indicate that if this is SEO, then it's SEO to favour a console reveal. Notably, the console reveal trailer was never taken down or privated prior to any reveal of a REVISION.

If we are to believe, or find any pattern. The pattern is clear.

They want a "First Look at [X]" trailer to show up instead of "First Look at Nintendo Switch".
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Nailed it. They literally just took down the reveal of the hardware in its entirely (or what's the same, the base hardware), this isn't something I recall happening before and you just confirmed my suspicions.
 
goudsoup said:
Out of curiosity: back then, what was the time span between the original OLED trailer going dark and the S3 OLED announcement?

That might give us an idea of when to expect NG-related news!
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It was the next day.

Concernt said:
I'm sorry, but this isn't true. As you said, the OLED Model trailer is back, and it was privated for SEO for the Splatoon 3 Special Edition, not due to rights issues. Furthermore, the Nintendo Switch reveal is, like the OLED Model trailer was, privated, and not removed, while mirrors, including those by significant publications, remain up with no licencing issues or georestrictions. If it was licencing related, then the videos would have been removed, not merely privated, they would have been removed from mirrors, or had mirrors copyright struck, and the OLED trailer wouldn't have COME BACK.
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The OLED trailer absolutely could have come back if they decided to renew the rights.
 
LiC said:
It was the next day.


The OLED trailer absolutely could have come back if they decided to renew the rights.
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Why would they:

Not renew the rights before it had to be taken down.
Private it, resulting in a situation where they'd still be in violation of copyright unless they had a specific carveout.
Renew the rights after the fact anyway.

That just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I dislike applications of Occam's Razer, but the simplest answer for the OLED Trailer is simply that they wanted the first result for "OLED Model" to be the Splatoon special edition for a couple weeks.
 
redmutineer75 said:
If so, it seems odd to reveal the console literally right before Wonder comes out. It definitely has enough legs to sell well despite that, but still, it seems weird that Nintendo would just drown the post-release buzz of of a game in one of their most lucrative franchises.
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If the console is back compatible (99% chance) it will have no effects on Wonder sales

LMAO if they reveal it this week, the Express prophecy will become true and the world will be doomed and Liam will be our new messiah. I’m still hoping for a November reveal though
 
redmutineer75 said:
If so, it seems odd to reveal the console literally right before Wonder comes out. It definitely has enough legs to sell well despite that, but still, it seems weird that Nintendo would just drown the post-release buzz of of a game in one of their most lucrative franchises.
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My thoughts exactly. They have no reason to announce it this close to wonder. I wanna get excited by this, but it means nothing. The video will probably be back up within the next few days.
 
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Lancelot said:
Crazy how we might get our answers right in tomorrow. After theorizing about this hardware for so long I think I'm getting shivers down my spine...
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I severely doubt it would be tomorrow. I can see explanations for it, I can see justifications for it, but I think this day (Tuesday to be clear, since some of the world is in Wednesday right now.) next week could bear fruit. Emphasis on could.
 
redmutineer75 said:
If so, it seems odd to reveal the console literally right before Wonder comes out. It definitely has enough legs to sell well despite that, but still, it seems weird that Nintendo would just drown the post-release buzz of of a game in one of their most lucrative franchises.
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I mean, it's freaking Mario Wonder. If anything, it's gotten a pretty huge marketing push compared to most Switch games to be honest, they may be overcompensating for this upcoming W...
 
P4bl0 said:
It's not about rights, it's about SEO, licensing rights is pocket money for them
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It's not about saving money, it's just something that comes up and then they have to renew the rights or decide not to bother anymore. We already know that sometimes they don't bother, as some of the uploads of the Lite reveal video went private and never came back. Since the OLED is their most recent and popular model, they've kept that one up for a while.

Concernt said:
Why would they:

Not renew the rights before it had to be taken down.
Private it, resulting in a situation where they'd still be in violation of copyright unless they had a specific carveout.
Renew the rights after the fact anyway.

That just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. I dislike applications of Occam's Razer, but the simplest answer for the OLED Trailer is simply that they wanted the first result for "OLED Model" to be the Splatoon special edition for a couple weeks.
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I think you're misunderstanding how private videos work. "Unlisted" is the state where a video is visible if you have a link and can still be embedded/hotlinked. "Private" videos can't be watched at all (unless your specific YouTube account is invited to have access), and that's what happened with the OLED video. Any mirrors that stayed up would have been reuploads which Nintendo has no control over.

A big problem with the SEO/announcement theory is that the Lite video was made private two years after its upload, like these other videos -- and that was a couple days after the OLED reveal video went up. And the Lite video never returned. So they clearly didn't get the Lite video out of the way to make room for the OLED announcement, they took it down as of its anniversary for another reason (probably the music). It just so happens that Nintendo was announcing models and special editions around the same time each year.
 
Concernt said:
I severely doubt it would be tomorrow. I can see explanations for it, I can see justifications for it, but I think this day (Tuesday to be clear, since some of the world is in Wednesday right now.) next week could bear fruit. Emphasis on could.
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I can see why, yes. Going from the previous occurrence with the Splatoon OLED though, I have a feeling this mystery won't stay unresolved for long.
 
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