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LoneRanger said:
Activision-Blizzard will probably be at first quarter with newest COD (another potentially big announcement for Switch 2 first SW presentation) and another of their family friendly games (be it Crash, Spyro or Tony Hawk, well if they have plans to launch a new game of any of those IPs in ~1 year).

From Blizzard side, a Diablo IV port should happen sometime in first year.
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If I remember correctly, there's that mystery Toys for Bob game that might arrive (if that leak is correct). Genuinely look forward to that, Crash 4 was amazing.

Oh yeah and Call of Duty will be there. Frankly we know for a fact we'll be eating with the Activision-Blizzard news if only because we know that any game they're making, we're getting.
 
Superstarxalien said:
yeah, what superhero is Drake even referring to
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Tim Drake, the third Robin & one of Bruce’s 6 kids (Tim being among the 5 adopted ones). The order goes…
  1. Dick Grayson (now Nightwing)
  2. Jason Todd (now Red Hood)
  3. Tim Drake
  4. Stephanie Brown (later Spoiler, now Batgirl)
  5. Damian Wayne
The first 3 Bruce adopted, not sure about Stephanie (I recall the answer being no), & Damian is his biological son.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I just don’t see the logic in maintaining Splatoon as a brand by starving Splatoon 3 DLC of resources. Splatoon is definitely the easiest EPD franchise other than Zelda to find a third party to assist in (shooters are pretty popular even though Splatoon is very different) so they could have done more outsourcing to speed up Splatoon 3 DLC and Splatoon 4 if maintaining the IP was a critical goal. Instead, Splatoon 3’s DLC has turned into kind of a joke and set a negative precedent for the franchise in the future.
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side order has been delayed internally but it is not languishing outwardly. the game has stayed on schedule with regular updates and the dlc is right on time.

I do think that 4 could be a good candidate for outsourcing as well. indeed, 3 being built on 2 internally followed by codev beginning on 4 makes sense to me
 
Neoxon said:
Tim Drake, the third Robin & one of Bruce’s 6 kids (Tim being among the 5 adopted ones). The order goes…
  1. Dick Grayson (now Nightwing)
  2. Jason Todd (now Red Hood)
  3. Tim Drake
  4. Stephanie Brown (now Spoiler)
  5. Damian Wayne
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Didn't she eventually become batgirl?
 
ziggyrivers said:
Atlus plot-twisting the goofy character as the villain says hi
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P4bl0 said:
Yeah fair enough lol I didn't want to put 10 screenshots

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I couldn't read every page after this one, so I'm sorry if it was already talked about (or even if it's a stupid question)

Are the other pages filled with more of these speaker entries? Can't we do a sum of all these speakers using the other pages too?
 
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There's been a lot of speculation, but I think I've nailed down when I think the reveal date is:

October and if not October, then
November and if not November, then
December and if not December, then
January and if not January, then
February and if not February, then
March and if not March, then
April and if not April, then
It's gonna be May and if not May, then
June and if not June, then
maybe Switch NG was just the friends we made along the way
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Nintendo is probably launching this with 15-20 games which is hard to market in a period of four months.
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Even if Nintendo wanted to spend an equal amount of time on each games, seems like allowing each game a week would be OK? But of course in reality they're going to be spending most of their focus on the BOTWs and 1-2 Switches, not I Am Setsunas and Fast RMXs. Hell, we didn't know about most of Switch's early games until less than two months from launch.
 
The announcement will be immediately before the February Direct as Nintendo says that the February Direct will not have next gen games (to set expectations), but that the system will launch in 2024 (to reassure investors and fans) and that they’ll have a reveal in Spring.
 
Boxle said:
There's been a lot of speculation, but I think I've nailed down when I think the reveal date is:

October and if not October, then
November and if not November, then
December and if not December, then
January and if not January, then
February and if not February, then
March and if not March, then
April and if not April, then
It's gonna be May and if not May, then
June and if not June, then
maybe Switch NG was just the friends we made along the way
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the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end
 
JoshuaJSlone said:
Even if Nintendo wanted to spend an equal amount of time on each games, seems like allowing each game a week would be OK? But of course in reality they're going to be spending most of their focus on the BOTWs and 1-2 Switches, not I Am Setsunas and Fast RMXs. Hell, we didn't know about most of Switch's early games until less than two months from launch.
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I mean, yeah, because the Switch’s launch lineup other than first-party stuff sucked, lol.

Cyberpunk 2077 and Kingdom Hearts will be given much more attention.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I mean, yeah, because the Switch’s launch lineup other than first-party stuff sucked, lol.

Cyberpunk 2077 and Kingdom Hearts will be given much more attention.
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This is the difference.

The Switch released at a time where third-party support may as well didn't exist, and that can be traced back the Wii U's total failure as a system.
This time around though, everyone will want to release for the Switch 2 at launch.
 
SoldierDelta said:
As others have said, it'll likely mean that there wasn't worthwhile information at the event. Alternative theory is that getting information from there is like draining blood from a stone.

As for the digital model, even without the rumour of such, I'm willing to believe that it could exist. As you said, the amount of money Nintendo could get from a digital version of Prime 4 over a physical one is definitely worth a small loss in profit (which they likely aren't having) in the digital console sales. Additionally, it offers motive for people to buy a marked-up version of the Switch 2 for 50 dollars more. It's a good gambit to make, even if there's discussions to be had about how "scummy" it actually is.

12 second/first party titles probably for the first year imo. Frankly, I've got a bit of concerns over the output of a console that's essentially gonna be marketed with 9th gen games. I know some developers who are already stretching the limits of the Switch will be fine (namely Monolith Soft and several EPD teams), but I've got some concerns with the smaller teams, third parties, and especially Game Freak.
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Nintendo's output is going to slow down regardless of how powerful this thing is, that's not up for debate. The competent EPD teams are going to be making games that the Switch 1 can only dream of, and that's true regardless of its positioning as a 9th gen platform. Staying a decade behind the raw compute power (no tricks involved) of the home consoles is what allowed them to keep such a high cadency, but like it or not, they had to embrace these standards eventually. The smaller, less proficient teams (like Game Freak) will just keep being themselves and there's nothing we can do about that, but at least their outdated broken messes will perform like they're expected to... Hopefully.
 
Lancelot said:
Nintendo's output is going to slow down regardless of how powerful this thing is, that's not up for debate. The competent EPD teams are going to be making games that the Switch 1 can only dream of, and that's true regardless of its positioning as a 9th gen platform. Staying a decade behind the raw compute power (no tricks involved) of the home consoles is what allowed them to keep such a high cadency, but like it or not, they had to embrace these standards eventually. The smaller, less proficient teams (like Game Freak) will just keep being themselves and there's nothing we can do about that, but at least their outdated broken messes will perform like they're expected to... Hopefully.
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A powerful system is a blessing and a curse specifically for Nintendo. We're probably going to see a few releases where Nintendo teams are being assigned a lower-risk project just so they can get accustomed to the powerful hardware.

That being said, we've got the blessing to this. Oh my god, when they make a big project that fully uses the hardware, we're probably gonna be in for some games that are the best of the decade. I genuinely cannot wait.
 
darthdiablo said:
This has been shared couple of times already. #1 and #2. I and others both of those to complement each other (ie: one of those has dates, the other doesn't, etc). #1 is the source of Connor's bad leak tweet (saying SEC8N confirmed), which I discovered via searching using keywords from the screenshot in the tweet, and the format matches up with the format in #1.

Others might be using a different site, but ideally, you'd use a shipment data aggregator site that has data that can be verified from a 2nd separate site.
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It has been a bit of a hectic day in the thread, so forgive us for not being able to find it.

How do people even find out what to look for on these websites?
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I’m going to be very curious if Diablo 4 comes to the Switch 2.

Microsoft’s recent Switch support has been… Very bad.
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Diablo IV certainly has a very long roadmap ahead of it - years of seasons and expansions. I’d be incredibly surprised if the game didn’t hit Switch 2. Microsoft’s acquisition isn’t going to suddenly make Diablo IV any less of a multi-platform title.

Edit: Considering the move to release it on Steam, they’re definitely aiming for additional soft-launches.
 
karmitt said:
Diablo IV certainly has a very long roadmap ahead of it - years of seasons and expansions. I’d be incredibly surprised if the game didn’t hit Switch 2. Microsoft’s acquisition isn’t going to suddenly make Diablo IV any less of a multi-platform title.
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Okay, but Sea of Thieves also has years of support left and no one expects that on the Switch 2.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Okay, but Sea of Thieves also has years of support left and no one expects that on the Switch 2.
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Small difference here. Sea of Thieves is a XGS title while Diablo 4 is an ABK game. Because Xbox has a weird inconsistency with releases, it's not a guarantee. That being said, I would still say it's likely due to Xbox's commitment to put every ABK game on Xbox going forward.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I’m going to be very curious if Diablo 4 comes to the Switch 2.

Microsoft’s recent Switch support has been… Very bad.
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D4 is probably heading to Switch 2, since they already released a version for Xbox/PS that worked across both last gen and current gen of systems. It's likely a pretty simple port job if the specs are as rumored.

D4 is going to be supported/be the newest entry for probably the next handful of years/decade or so, just like how long D3 ended up lasting. Expansions and new season content will probably have it chug along until Blizz feels its time to introduce D5.
 
qwerp said:
It has been a bit of a hectic day in the thread, so forgive us for not being able to find it.

How do people even find out what to look for on these websites?
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Keywords. T239 is a good starting point. As long as you mind the HSN codes (if it's HSN code for video games or electrical equipment, then you should be in good shape), and as long as you keep in mind there's a Samsung T239 tablet (I haven't ran into those though but I kept that in back of my head)

It's a matter of brute-checking different things.

If you haven't seen this post by LiC yet, it's an excellent summary of a time period here (but misses the context from that point forward, a lot has happened since then)
 
SoldierDelta said:
A powerful system is a blessing and a curse specifically for Nintendo. We're probably going to see a few releases where Nintendo teams are being assigned a lower-risk project just so they can get accustomed to the powerful hardware.

That being said, we've got the blessing to this. Oh my god, when they make a big project that fully uses the hardware, we're probably gonna be in for some games that are the best of the decade. I genuinely cannot wait.
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It's a blessing and a curse for everyone, not just Nintendo. All of the manufacturers and studios that have embraced these higher standards have reduced their cadency and amount of releases over the years but that didn't stop them from doing so, which you can see on the other two right now. Making games is no easy endeavor, even Zelda and yet-to-come-out MP4 will have taken a whooping six years to make by 2024 without accounting for the restart, under its current Switch 1 baseline. I don't think there will be "low-risk" projects for this reason, they'll either go all out with their Switch 2 game or make it crossgen until they'll no longer be allowed to publish on Switch 1, when you're dealing with this scale of development every year counts.
 
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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
But literally why would this matter, lol.
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I’m not sure why you think Sea of Thieves a remotely relevant retort, or why you’re doubling down on it.

Diablo IV ahead of launch, and to this very day, is not the property of Microsoft, and is a fully multi-platform release with years of support ahead of it on these platforms. Sea of Thieves has always been an exclusive first party title and as far as we know has never been considered to be released elsewhere.

It’s apples and oranges.

ABK would almost assuredly have been eyeing Switch 2, have penciled in a date for a release, or even have started development on it - it’s yet another soft launch of the title. After Microsoft acquires the company, why would they have any reason to pivot from these plans? They aren’t about to rip Diablo IV out from PlayStation, and they stand to make a lot of money on a Switch 2 release just as ABK likely did for Diablo 3 on Switch.

Edit: And as another poster mentioned, this doesn’t weigh in the fact that this is an ABK game specifically, and they just spent the last couple years in court saying they won’t be pulling ABK games from other platforms / saying they’ll bring them to more platforms - Switch included. I don’t see them making any moves counter to these statements, and internally cancelling a Switch 2 version would be exactly that. I won’t rule out that the next Diablo (V) won’t come to Nintendo, but that could very well be 10 years out.
 
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To be clear about my feelings on Splatoon personally, it’s my favorite Nintendo franchise other Mario and Metroid fwiw. I would greatly prefer Nintendo focus on it over Animal Crossing, but I don’t see it happening.
 
Lancelot said:
It's a blessing and a curse for everyone, not just Nintendo. All of the manufacturers and studios that have embraced these higher standards have reduced their cadency and amount of releases over the years but that didn't stop them from doing so, which you can see on the other two right now. Making games is no easy endeavor, even Zelda and yet-to-come-out MP4 will have taken a whooping six years to make by 2024 without accounting for the restart, under its current Switch 1 baseline. I don't think there will be "low-risk" projects for this reason, they'll either go all out with their Switch 2 game or make it crossgen until they'll no longer be allowed to publish on Switch 1, when you're dealing with this scale of development every year counts.
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A good point. I was mainly referring to "low-risk" as remasters and ports, maybe remakes. A lot less goes into them from a pre-production standpoint, so I could understand why they're being made? Idk, we'll see.

Regardless, I get it. I am curious as to how Nintendo will handle this change in general development attitude though. I kinda look forward to see how their games will shape the industry, if they do of course.

Look man, I'm just looking forward to Xenoblade 4 or whatever comes next from Monolith Soft. They've been stuck on 7th gen hardware for so long, LET THE SHACKLES BE RELEASED DAMMIT!!
 
LiC said:
I think some hard conclusions are being drawn that are in need of softening. There's interesting stuff to discuss being posted, but a lot of it is Switch-1 related or indeterminate. I don't think any concretely Switch 2-related listings have posted outside the ones that say T239, so it's VERY premature to start using these as proof of a production timeline.

And I have to correct a few specific things.


The SW development platforms (maybe-devkits) were shipped from Nvidia in Japan to Nvidia in India. None of these T239 shipments are by Nintendo or to Nintendo. Like I keep saying, it looks like the reason these shipments are visible at all is specifically to do with the Nvidia branch in India.



These shipments were from Nvidia in China to Nvidia in India. Assuming Foxconn because you see China isn't sound, but more importantly, you can check the importer and exporter on these listings to see that it's all Nvidia.

We also have no indication that this is related to Nintendo. Let's put aside the idea of "camouflaging" something because that's definitely not what was happening. The product description could be for just about any kind of test board. "IWOH" is the only unique part of this string, and I'll come back to it later, but there's no reason to think this is Nintendo-related.


This is a Switch 1 devkit.


Before anything about this can be connected to Switch 2, it needs to be established that these aren't parts for the current Switch. Also, the speculation is cool, but just listing features that some of this company's products have doesn't connect those features to the Nintendo hardware.


Again, where are you getting Foxconn? This says it's from Jabil Circuit India to PixArt.


This is mashing up different parts of the product descriptions. These are also all Switch 1 models.
  • NXMODEL:ADEVSR.NO.AS PER DOCUMENT
    • NX model: ADEV (OLED devkit) SR. NO. (serial number) as per document
  • NXMODEL:SDEV-DSR.NO.AS PER DOCUMENT
    • NX model: SDEV-D (Mariko SDEV devkit) SR. NO. (serial number) as per document
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Great. So we're back to nothing. All that hype crashed back slamming down hard.
 
SoldierDelta said:
A good point. I was mainly referring to "low-risk" as remasters and ports, maybe remakes. A lot less goes into them from a pre-production standpoint, so I could understand why they're being made? Idk, we'll see.

Regardless, I get it. I am curious as to how Nintendo will handle this change in general development attitude though. I kinda look forward to see how their games will shape the industry, if they do of course.

Look man, I'm just looking forward to Xenoblade 4 or whatever comes next from Monolith Soft. They've been stuck on 7th gen hardware for so long, LET THE SHACKLES BE RELEASED DAMMIT!!
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I honestly think we'll see a lot of ports from Nintendo this next generation. Everything starting with the GameCube/3DS is reasonably easy game, and remakes for everything before. It's much easier from a pre-production point of view to give older games a new lease on life than it is to break ground on new games.

Some types of games don't really need remakes or ports though - like racing games and sports/fighting games and more just need inclusion of old courses or fighters in newer iterations.

I think the biggest challenges come in porting Wii and Gamecube titles - since buttons don't map 1:1 a lot of the time. I honestly was hoping that Skyward Sword would have been paired with the release of a Wii-mote kit so that I could have experienced it again the way it really was meant to be.

DS/3DS seem a lot easier than that since the biggest issues tend to be dealing with the second screen, and that should be much easier because a lot of games really just used the second screen as auxiliary information or extra buttons for things. Nothing terribly action critical.
 
karmitt said:
I’m not sure why you think Sea of Thieves a remotely relevant retort, or why you’re doubling down on it.

Diablo IV ahead of launch, and to this very day, is not the property of Microsoft, and is a fully multi-platform release with years of support ahead of it on these platforms. Sea of Thieves has always been an exclusive first party title and as far as we know has never been considered to be released elsewhere.

It’s apples and oranges.

ABK would almost assuredly have been eyeing Switch 2, have penciled in a date for a release, or even have started development on it - it’s yet another soft launch of the title. After Microsoft acquires the company, why would they have any reason to pivot from these plans? They aren’t about to rip Diablo IV out from PlayStation, and they stand to make a lot of money on a Switch 2 release just as ABK likely did for Diablo 3 on Switch.
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Outside of already being on PS4, all of this already applies to Hi Fi Rush which… Did not release on Switch.
 
Neoxon said:
Tim Drake, the third Robin & one of Bruce’s 6 kids (Tim being among the 5 adopted ones). The order goes…
  1. Dick Grayson (now Nightwing)
  2. Jason Todd (now Red Hood)
  3. Tim Drake
  4. Stephanie Brown (later Spoiler, now Batgirl)
  5. Damian Wayne
The first 3 Bruce adopted, not sure about Stephanie (I recall the answer being no), & Damian is his biological son.
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(german accent) Rubbish ! This is the real Robin ! My god !

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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
Outside of already being on PS4, all of this already applies to Hi Fi Rush which… Did not release on Switch.
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I give up. You’re totally right and Diablo IV is no different from Sea of Thieves or other brand new games that Microsoft has opted to make exclusive.
 
I’m not sure which games from the GameCube, DS, or 3DS have any porting appeal that haven’t been recently remade.

It’s mostly just A Link Between Worlds, Fire Emblem Awakening , DS Castlevania collection (not Nintendo), DQIX (not Nintendo), Pokémon, Kirby RoboBot, and maybe Samus Returns and Prime 2.

Just not a lot of games with mainstream appeal that can be remade that are left.

Kid Icarus Uprising is the most requested game, but this would be hard as fuck to remake and would basically be a Phantom Hourglass level pain in the ass and require completely changing everything.
 
SoldierDelta said:
A good point. I was mainly referring to "low-risk" as remasters and ports, maybe remakes. A lot less goes into them from a pre-production standpoint, so I could understand why they're being made? Idk, we'll see.

Regardless, I get it. I am curious as to how Nintendo will handle this change in general development attitude though. I kinda look forward to see how their games will shape the industry, if they do of course.

Look man, I'm just looking forward to Xenoblade 4 or whatever comes next from Monolith Soft. They've been stuck on 7th gen hardware for so long, LET THE SHACKLES BE RELEASED DAMMIT!!
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Oh yes, absolutely looking forward to Xenoblade 4. It might not be given the "Blade" monicker but yeah, I'm dying to see their next big game. Perhaps... the new action RPG they've been making for a while? Super hyped either way.

Back to the thing in the other hand, their games are certainly shaping the industry already. It's hard to say how their attitude will change with such a powerful console at their disposal... I'm betting on much better stories and cinematic approaches myself, though that's not a concern for Monolith in particular.
 
D36 said:
@P4bl0 It would be very appreciated if you gave us a link to the website, so we can properly cross reference the information at hand.
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TLZ said:
Guys please keep this topic hardware related. We're spiralling back to talking games again.
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Fair. It’s so easy to get stuck into it as in the not so distant past any discussion around games coming to ‘the next system’ didn’t have a home outside of this thread. I haven’t really stepped into the General thread for ages - I’m guessing things have shifted a bit recently.
 
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