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Wow Nate heard some chatter Nintendo wants to equip the next system with significant amount of internal flash memory. The ceiling figure he heard was 512.
 
512GB storage?

Well, that would be surprising. I think storage is the "easiest" way for Nintendo to cheap out.
 
oldpuck said:
I'm very excited for the lurking group of material physicists Nintendo fans to finally start contributing to this thread ;) For me, I'll wait till someone actually confirms SC.
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Come one material scientists, I hope to get beyond "I understood some of the words".gif in this area some day.

But yea, if it is SC amazing, its the biggest jump in electronics materials since the transistor itself.

However, as Carl Sagan would say, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”.
 
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LCD is a major step back.

Its not something like a cooling solution being more advanced in the last versions of a console vs. a next gen system.


This is something whole different.

I really hope this turns out to be a false rumor. Again, it would be very odd, since LCD manufactures like Samsung are dropping or have dropped out already.

Lets wait I guess…
 
And this would already be an answer to the (perhaps momentary) abandonment of OLED, i.e. a larger screen than the previous model that prevents the use of the old screen.
Will only the type and size change? Maybe more...
 
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Hermii said:
Disagree. MK is an evergreen that will sell well the entire generation. Should be launched as early as possible, as 8 Deluxe proved.
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I always disagree with this type of logic because the only logical thing to do with that train of logic is launch all heavy hitters day one and pad out the rest of the system with these small games

Like…? No one does this for obvious reasons.
 
ReddDreadtheLead said:
I always disagree with this type of logic because the only logical thing to do with that train of logic is launch all heavy hitters day one and pad out the rest of the system with these small games

Like…? No one does this for obvious reasons.
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Lol. I did laugh. Yeah everything has to spread out. We’re not getting all of Nintendo’s biggest IP’s in the first year. You can only sell so many systems. They’ll all sell out in the holiday. Space your big IP’s out after holiday 2024, 2025, 2026,
 
A 512GB ceiling lines up neatly with the report that they're doing aggressive cost cutting for the sake of internal storage
 


SUMMARY

LAUNCH TALK
- Nate has been hearing late 2024 (Says could launch in september - early october)
  • Thinks we will be getting a lot of chatter due to events coming up
  • Nothing from GDC at all (MVG)
- Nate has multiple developers saying they know about devkits (Last week/few Weeks)
- Seemed pretty certain it'd launch with 3d mario (a prediction but he sounded stern lol)
- Nate has heard chatter about production in Q1

DISPLAY TALK
- Nate thinks it's going to launch with an LCD screen
- Has been told it will launch with an 8 inch LCD Screen (isn't certain calls, it informed speculation)

STORAGE TALK
- Has heard chatter about a 'fairly significant amount of internal flash memory' has heard 512GB ceiling figure (informed speculation)

GAME CARD TALK
- Thinks card format will change (3D NAND) (speculation)

BACKWARDS COMPATABILITY TALK
  • Can definitely be solved for, MVG thinks they will solve for it in some way
  • No new info

ANNOUNCEMENT TIMING
  • Nate thinks they will wait till FY ends before they announce it
  • Could be any time though
 
8” is huge.

Wonder if that’s because they have a larger case to work with…

Could see some negative commentary around the size of the unit.
 
8" would definitely necessitate a slightly larger unit.
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EDIT: I won't bother redoing the image, but I realize now I scaled up 1/8 rather than 1/7, so it would be even slightly larger than this.
Cybergatuno said:
Nintendo publishes a dozen games every year.
By that logic, they would never announce new hardware because there's always some good games releasing in the next 6 months.
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Some good games, yes. Long-awaited sequel to one of their biggest series in the biggest sales time of the year, not always.
 
eye0h said:


SUMMARY

LAUNCH TALK
- Nate has been hearing late 2024 (Says could launch in september - early october)
  • Thinks we will be getting a lot of chatter due to events coming up
  • Nothing from GDC at all (MVG)
- Nate has multiple developers saying they know about devkits (Last week/few Weeks)
- Seemed pretty certain it'd launch with 3d mario (a prediction but he sounded stern lol)
- Nate has heard chatter about production in Q1

DISPLAY TALK
- Nate thinks it's going to launch with an LCD screen
- Has been told it will launch with an 8 inch LCD Screen (isn't certain calls, it informed speculation)

STORAGE TALK
- Has heard chatter about a 'fairly significant amount of internal flash memory' has heard 512GB ceiling figure (informed speculation)

GAME CARD TALK
- Thinks card format will change (3D NAND) (speculation)

BACKWARDS COMPATABILITY TALK
  • Can definitely be solved for, MVG thinks they will solve for it in some way
  • No new info

ANNOUNCEMENT TIMING
  • Nate thinks they will wait till FY ends before they announce it
  • Could be any time though
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MVG heel-face turn!
 
If the screen is really that big, I really hope it's 1080p, battery life be damned. 720p and 8" would mean a ppi of 185 or so. It's not unacceptable or anything, but hardly ideal.

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Lugia667 said:
has any company ever revealed a new system at gamescom? It kinda feels like wishcasting because someone misses the big E3 reveals
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The StartMenu piece says (And the author clarified on Twitter) Nintendo will likely be unveiling the console to partners in closed rooms at Gamescom, rather than unveiling to the public formally. It's a great chance (Alongside TGS a month later) to get in a room, at the same time, as half the industry. It might be when western publishers receive dev kits and info, outside of the handful of close partners or major publishers (EA, Activision, Ubisoft) who they might make one-off exceptions for, and TGS will be the same for Japanese publishers.
 
512 GB makes sense if you consider it to target around PS4-level graphics. Og PS4/BXO launched with 500 GB HDD.
8 inch makes sense to further distinguish it from current gen models during cross-gen transition.
At this point I would expect an higher resolution than 720p though.
 
A launch in september-early october would be the same frame as Lite and OLED models release dates. So it makes sense.

But as HW enthusiastics a more robuts HW spec leak would be more interested to discuss.
 
An 8" LCD screen? Those better be some extremely thin bezels, otherwise this device will be huge.

Even if it maintains the Switch OLED bezels, it still becomes a significantly larger device. So the bezels would need to shrink down substantially even from the OLED model to make an 8" screen work.
 
8 inch screen sounds awesome. As much as I'd love to have an OLED screen, I can live with LCD. My launch system allows me to not enjoy the finer things.

512gb memory would be huge. Couple that with a 1tb micro sd card and a physical collector like myself will never have to worry about storage.
 
Hey @NateDrake, thanks so much for the podcast episode, that was great. Super happy you were able to share a bit more! Very exciting year ahead.

I have a (mostly facetious) ask of you - please tell me you've heard that third parties will be going hard on patches. Specifically, tell me that WB will patch Arkham and Rockstar will patch RDR1. Even if you have to lie to me, tell me this. /cope
 
LuckyLuke said:
Maybe 800p
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Well, I say by no means as a prediction of any kind.
Comparing the OG Switch 6.2 inch display to an 8 inch, it gives very roughly a 25-30% increase in height, so if I had to keep the same proportion to increase pixel count it would translate (again very roughly) to 900p.
 
Lugia667 said:
MVG heel-face turn!
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eye0h said:
not really, he still referenced the possibility from his original video
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We simply decided not to revisit the topic of it potentially not having BC and focused purely on what the article proposed. If (when) we get further clarity on the situation (be it good or bad), we'll revisit the topic. I've heard more on the BC in recent days but the info remains clouded.

bloopland33 said:
Hey @NateDrake, thanks so much for the podcast episode, that was great. Super happy you were able to share a bit more! Very exciting year ahead.

I have a (mostly facetious) ask of you - please tell me you've heard that third parties will be going hard on patches. Specifically, tell me that WB will patch Arkham and Rockstar will patch RDR1. Even if you have to lie to me, tell me this. /cope
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Thanks.

As for your question: Nothing to share on that front, at the moment.
 
It was a good podcast episode, but it still baffles me how they talk about backwards compatibility. Developers need to know so they can do patches? If something is truly backwards compatible, developers wont need to do patches. On Xbox and PlayStation, I do not believe developers have to do any work for their PS4/X1 games to work on the newer consoles unless they want to patch the games for upgrades. When playing a Switch game on Switch NG, they will be booted through the compatibility layer and will either function as they did on Switch, or hopefully a boost mode simulating an overclocked Switch with no memory bandwidth constraints.
 
I'm sure I can't picture what 720p on the 8-inch screen will look like, and it's probably worse than I'm picturing, but I'd also really hate to sacrifice the IQ in portable mode of the entire Switch 1 library. All those 720p or lower games on up to a potentially 1080p screen would be a bummer.
 
NateDrake said:
We simply decided not to revisit the topic of it potentially not having BC and focused purely on what the article proposed. If (when) we get further clarity on the situation (be it good or bad), we'll revisit the topic. I've heard more on the BC in recent days but the info remains clouded.


Thanks.

As for your question: Nothing to share on that front, at the moment.
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Nate. As always a great podcast!


As you guys have already speculated on this episode.

Jeff Grubb also thinks according to his sources it will be unveiled/announced around Gamescom.

How likely do you think it will be part of a Direct? Wouldnt it steal the show from all the games? Maybe a standalone announcement is more suitable?
 
CypressFX said:
Nate. As always a great podcast!


As you guys have already speculated on this episode.

Jeff Grubb also thinks according to his sources it will be unveiled/announced around Gamescom.

How likely do you think it will be part of a Direct? Wouldnt it steal the show from all the games? Maybe a standalone announcement is more suitable?
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Gamescom would surprise me, as would it being shown at Nintendo Live in September.

My opinion would be Nintendo hosts a social event for it -- much like they did Switch. But... it's Nintendo, so maybe they'll surprise in another way
 
NateDrake said:
Gamescom would surprise me, as would it being shown at Nintendo Live in September.

My opinion would be Nintendo hosts a social event for it -- much like they did Switch. But... it's Nintendo, so maybe they'll surprise in another way
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Nate,

The recent podcast episode was great, as usual!

Thank you for sharing new information!

I was wondering if you have heard any information about the next Pokémon game? And if you could share some info about that?

Thank you in advance!
 
Dutchie said:
Nate,

The recent podcast episode was great, as usual!

Thank you for sharing new information!

I was wondering if you have heard any information about the next Pokémon game? And if you could share some info about that?

Thank you in advance!
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I have not.
 
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