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Goodtwin said:
There is good reason to believe that even on the lower end expectations for Drake, it would be capable of rendering many of Nintendo's first party games at 1440p before applying DLSS. Mario Kart 8 and Smash Bros already render at 1080p with less than 400Gflops of performance. At minimum, we are looking at more than 5x the performance of the current Switch. The frame time to take 1440p to 2160p should be manageable. Nintendo likes to fake higher end rendering techniques rather than trying to implement real time resource heavy equivalents.
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I can see Nintendo more likely to jist brute forcing it for mk8 deluxe and Smash ultimate ports. They both should be doable in 4k while keeping the 60fps at the specs we are thinking.
Dakhil said:
LPDDR4 was already been used in smartphones for almost 2 years (here and here) by the time the Nintendo Switch launched.

As of now, LPDDR5X-8400 has only been used on smartphones for only a little more than three months. (The Snapdragon 8 Gen 2's the first SoC from Qualcomm that supports LPDDR5X.)

And as of now, LPDDR5X-7500 has only been used in smartphones for a little over a year.
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Apparently the latest Samsung S23 phones have lppdr5x RAM. Not sure about the speed though, despite using the the snapdragon Gen 2 SOC. Wiki page for that soc says 4200Mhz..
Instro said:
Not to doom and gloom, and not that I trust this person at all, but the only people who claimed dev kits were out there, have either never mentioned it again, or have since claimed that the hardware they heard about was canceled. If the hardware is further out than anticipated, it wouldn't exactly be shocking if dev kits are only just getting distributed. It would also explain why we have very little info or leaks outside of the Nvidia hack.

On the other hand they could just be taking about final dev kits or whatever. Or be a complete fraudster.
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Developers can also be under strict NDAs to not mention dev kits. Especially after that '11 developers having early dev kits (iirc, name dropping Zynga)"by Bloomberg fiasco, which as someone said before, hasn't been refuted to the best of my knowledge.
 
Goodtwin said:
Its a bit different for Sony because they haven't historically had trouble transitioning from one console generation to the next. Nintendo has had a ton of trouble doing this and have openly stated that they are concerned about the transition. Anything that could stifle Switch sales, especially with it being their only hardware now, would be avoided as it offers no upside. Can you sell me on an upside to revealing a new Switch revision a year or more in advance? You are the one saying it would need to happen leading into the new fiscal year, so that means you believe a year in advance is necessary. Anything less would mean Nintendo wouldn't have announced it leading into the new fiscal year and you are saying that wouldn't/shouldn't happen?
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Just as a note they didn’t say concerned. This quote is the official translation.
“On the other hand, looking back on past experiences of generational change such as the change from the Wii and Nintendo DS eras, we recognize that one of our tasks is ensuring the transition to future generations of hardware is as smooth as possible. To that end, we are focusing on building long-term relationships with our consumers. While continuing to release new Nintendo Switch software for consumers to enjoy, we aim to maintain relationships across hardware generations through services that utilize Nintendo Accounts and by providing opportunities for them to experience our IP through other non-gaming channels.”
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Goodtwin said:
Its a bit different for Sony because they haven't historically had trouble transitioning from one console generation to the next. Nintendo has had a ton of trouble doing this and have openly stated that they are concerned about the transition. Anything that could stifle Switch sales, especially with it being their only hardware now, would be avoided as it offers no upside. Can you sell me on an upside to revealing a new Switch revision a year or more in advance? You are the one saying it would need to happen leading into the new fiscal year, so that means you believe a year in advance is necessary. Anything less would mean Nintendo wouldn't have announced it leading into the new fiscal year and you are saying that wouldn't/shouldn't happen?



GBC was on the market from 1998 to 2003, so it had a five year run. Yes GBA came out in 2001, but really GBC to GBA was just another soft transition, GBA fully supported GB/GBC games, so you can look GB through GBA as being one family of systems. Keep in mind that the original GameBoy came out in 1989, so the GameBoy essentially had a 14 year run before being completely phased out and if we include the GBA since it did sully support GB/GBC games, it was much much longer. If Nintendo could have a strong 14+ year run with the Switch family of systems without having to go through the hard reset, I think that would be considered a win. If you look at the Xbox One to Series consoles, it has a lot in common with the GB/GBC/GBA.
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I think a reasonably long (8+ months) period from release to announcement is good because it gives consumers and investors more guidance for the future and prevents the possibility of third-parties getting dev kits etc and then leaking (making it so you can't control the narrative and making the release of information uncertain). I just don't see benefits for holding off on the announcement as the Switch is selling just OK and old consoles aren't immediately killed sales-wise when you announce the successor (it's generally only a slight decline IIRC).
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
I think a reasonably long (8+ months) period from release to announcement is good because it gives consumers and investors more guidance for the future and prevents the possibility of third-parties getting dev kits etc and then leaking (making it so you can't control the narrative and making the release of information uncertain). I just don't see benefits for holding off on the announcement as the Switch is selling just OK and old consoles aren't immediately killed sales-wise when you announce the successor (it's generally only a slight decline IIRC).
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The Switch wasn't properly revealed until like 4.5 months before release, and the almost nothing that they said about it before that point clearly only happened because of the mobile announcement. Nintendo clearly doesn't seem to think such a long pre-release cycle is necessary.
 
Pokemaniac said:
The Switch wasn't properly revealed until like 4.5 months before release, and the almost nothing that they said about it before that point clearly only happened because of the mobile announcement. Nintendo clearly doesn't seem to think such a long pre-release cycle is necessary.
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There seems to be a big gap between "a short pre-release cycle is not that harmful" and "a short pre-release cycle is so beneficial that it's worth giving misleading public comments and misleading financial forecasts to have a short pre-release cycle"

If we get to mid May with no announcement and Nintendo is releasing this November 2023, then Nintendo must view a short pre-release cycle as obscenely beneficial and I would not understand that at all. If this is releasing in November 2023, then massive leaks will start happening by like June and that doesn't seem very useful to happen to the Switch 2 pre-announcement.

Also, let's take the minimum announcement to release window as four months.

Then Nintendo is revealing a November 2023 product July 2023.

Misleading people in May 2023 just so you can announce two months later seems very weird.

(And Pikmin 4 could be more overshadowed by a Switch 2 announcement than TotK as well)
 
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Just to clarify, if the Switch 2 is releasing November 2023, I expect something like

Announcement mid April. Just a very brief tweet or press release that says "Nintendo will be releasing the Nintendo Switch 2 this holiday season! It will be backwards compatible with almost all Switch games, including TotK and Pikmin 4. Tune in this summer for more detailed information!"

This allows people to know a Switch 2 is coming soon, but is so low key that it doesn't distract away at all from TotK.

Then Nintendo can do their full blowout in mid June (July is a little too close to Pikmin 4 I think).

So when I say "the Switch 2 will be announced in the next six weeks if it's coming this fiscal year," I mean a very low key announcement, with details other than BC not shared until later.

I would be very confused if Nintendo was releasing the Switch 2 Q4 2023 and did not follow this approach and instead didn't do the official announcement until like June or something.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
There seems to be a big gap between "a short pre-release cycle is not that harmful" and "a short pre-release cycle is so beneficial that it's worth giving misleading public comments and misleading financial forecasts to have a short pre-release cycle"

If we get to mid May with no announcement and Nintendo is releasing this November 2023, then Nintendo must view a short pre-release cycle as obscenely beneficial and I would not understand that at all. If this is releasing in November 2023, then massive leaks will start happening by like June and that doesn't seem very useful to happen to the Switch 2 pre-announcement.

Also, let's take the minimum announcement to release window as four months.

Then Nintendo is revealing a November 2023 product July 2023.

Misleading people in May 2023 just so you can announce two months later seems very weird.

(And Pikmin 4 could be more overshadowed by a Switch 2 announcement than TotK as well)
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It's not "misleading" to not talk about unannounced products in investor briefings. If Nintendo says "Switch is in an unprecedented situation, here are our forecasts for it, we have nothing to announce regarding new hardware at this time" in May, and then announces new hardware a month or two later (with accompanying investor briefing communicating their forecasts for that), then what "misleading" has actually happened?

Nintendo tends to talk about stuff that they've already publicly acknowledged in their investor briefings, but things they haven't talked about yet are usually just not brought up.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
There seems to be a big gap between "a short pre-release cycle is not that harmful" and "a short pre-release cycle is so beneficial that it's worth giving misleading public comments and misleading financial forecasts to have a short pre-release cycle"
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Those of us who are for a short turn around are not insinuating that its not that harmful, far from it. We are saying that its actually the opposite, and its helpful to Nintendo's business. The sooner that Nintendo announces Switch Redacted, the sooner that has a negative effect on Switch sales. They have the Zelda OLED edition releasing towards the end of April and Zelda TotK a couple weeks later. Nintendo knows that this will help bolster Switch sales, especially encouraging people to upgrade to the OLED model. If they announce in the next six weeks that Switch Redacted will release later this year, that will decrease demand for current model Switch units. Nintendo has in no way been misleading, they just aren't saying anything.

I do not expect a Switch Redacted announcement until July or August. This allows them to maximize sales for Switch with Zelda TotK and after a couple months things will have settled back down and they can do a teaser trailer and then a full blowout in September where they will also attend the Tokyo Game Show for hands on demonstrations. I am fully committed to the idea that Nintendo will continue to push Switch as hard as they can right up until the point where Switch Redacted is ready to go, and they wont do it a moment sooner than necessary because there is no upside and will only negatively effect sales for their current platform. If you think announcing Redacted in the next few weeks would have no negative effect on Switch sales, I don't know what to tell you. I guess we would have to agree to disagree because we are worlds apart on that.
 
Thraktor said:
There's actually quite a bit of precedent for major titles releasing just after hardware announcements, and it doesn't seem to have affected sales at all. In particular, The Last of Us released on PS3 less than a week after Sony's major PS4 showcase and broke sales records. The Last of Us Part II launched on PS4 a little over a week after the major PS5 showcase and also broke sales records.

I'd argue there's a possibility that a hardware announcement before ToTK releases might actually increase sales, as it would mean increased exposure for Nintendo in mainstream press, but I don't know if it would be a significant factor.
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That is not a lot to go by considering The Last of Us was a major new IP from Naughty Dog and got stellar reviews, and Part II released when video game spending was at an all time high due to the pandemic. Its a gamble to shift attention to console announcement hype and one that I dont think Nintendo will do.

With TotK I have seen a lot of people say they wish it was a Switch 2 game due to the minimal visual improvements and they are waiting for that version. I doubt Nintendo wants to reinforce that idea as they want as many buyers at launch as they can get.

Sin Drive said:
Although I don't believe they will announce new hardware at the investor meeting, I don't understand this argument at all. The same zelda fans who are going to buy totk....would simply still buy it at launch and then (re)play it on their upcoming new hardware.
This isn't a this or that choice, especially since there would be atleast a few months inbetween either's release in which Nintendo would use totk to bolster the new hardware via marketing(whether upgrade, the game just being on there or whatever) or vice versa.
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There are a lot of non-Zelda fans who are going to buy it because of the hype as well as fans who aren´t crazy about BotW and still on the fence. When a game launches its always more about the new customers rather than the guaranteed buyers, and social media engagement is a driver for continued sales.

The Switch 2 announcement or just confirmation at that specific point would be the talking point leading to TotK´s launch and inevitably get in the way. Its not about it ¨being fine¨ as it about getting the biggest launch possible for Nintendo.
 
I'll be interested to see how ToTK performs relative to Skyward Sword with both being late gen Zelda games

I suspect ToTK would lap SS sales many times over without breaking a sweat and should put a damper of Switch is like the Wii In 2011 talk regardless of what happens with Switch 2 announcements
 
n6s said:
Hi everyone! I'm posting here for the first time to say that, yup, the "Hawk" 4chan leak was fake. I wrote it. The title is a HMAC-SHA1 hash with the key HWK info 4 ya :) and the message beautiful DLSS future awaits. Sorry for doing that.

Most people here seemed very skeptical of the "leak," and I haven't seen anyone here buy into it 100%. However, today I saw someone on Twitter tweet it out at someone, and apparently a few small gaming news websites have written about it too. To anyone who I deceived (and I know that some of you are lurking here in the shadows), I'm sorry. This was just a creative exercise that I decided to post as a "leak" because I wanted to see what people thought of it. I was disappointed at first when it was ignored, but honestly, I felt kind of relieved too. I shouldn't have framed my predictions in a way that was dishonest.

The specs that I wrote out were definitely based on the discussions that were held here, but what's kind of funny is that some of those apparent connections were actually unintentional. I wrote most of that stuff in mid-February, but I didn't post it because there were already lots of rumors flying around, like the Drake cancellation rumor. So, I waited a bit longer to post it... and then the Pokemon rumor happened. So I waited some more, and then people started talking about a patent for a controller that can store save data. A couple of people mentioned that they wanted Streetpass to return, too. Oof. And yeah, the SCD similarity was unintentional. I'd never heard of that before.

Two other things that I want to clear up, in case anyone's still wondering about them: the CCD thing was basically just a description of Streetpass with smartphone support, with the extra possibility of future accessories supporting it too. Software-based gimmicks (such as optional smartphone features) seem like a great way to innovate and expand the reach of Nintendo's IP, in my opinion. Second, the "H" in "HLZ" was just mean to stand for the codename of the system, Hawk. I didn't imagine it as being anything more than a LZ-compressed file with a custom header. It was interesting to read about hierarchal and hybrid LZ compression though.

Since this is probably going to be my final post here, here are some hardware ideas that I think would be cool to see, even if they're not actually useful or viable:
  • A right stick that can be rotated when it's in its neutral position.
  • A small square-shaped button that's actually a screen. Like, one that you can press down on! Games could change its display to show what the button does, and it could even show visual cues related to whatever's going on in the game. Maybe it could match the color scheme of its Joy-Con.
  • A screen that can display pictures using infrared light. Imagine if you could just scan a QR code on someone else's screen without the need for any visible clutter? This wouldn't really work for a hybrid system, but it could be neat for a handheld.

So yeah, that's that. Goodbye, and take care!
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I like your style. If you ever consider it, you'd be a great YouTuber 😁
 
I don't expect new hardware this year. I'm expecting March-April 2024.

They do have transition sooner than later because software sales are declining and they can't deliver the sales margins shareholders expect sitting on their hands until Nov 2024. That seems ill advised. They've got 1 more good year and probably a 13-14m hardware fiscal year upcoming and then by April 2024 the hardware wont have the support or momentum to justify another 8 months til Switch 2.

They can certainly chill for one more holiday period. Between hardware bundles, special editions and promotions they can push the business for another 12 months but outstretching it much more than that would be a poor idea. If a platform is suppose to be launchjng in Nov. We would need to hear things about it in the next 60 to 70 days I would wager. Which I am pretty damn positive nothing is launching this year.
 
Dekuman said:
I'll be interested to see how ToTK performs relative to Skyward Sword with both being late gen Zelda games

I suspect ToTK would lap SS sales many times over without breaking a sweat and should put a damper of Switch is like the Wii In 2011 talk regardless of what happens with Switch 2 announcements
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Even if TotK doesn’t sell as well as BotW (which I think is very possible regardless of the game’s reception), it will certainly dwarf Skyward Sword. Anyone comparing the current state of the Switch to the Wii in 2011 is way off base. The sales trajectories aren’t comparable at all other than, like all consoles, it’s declining in its latter years.
 
Goodtwin said:
Those of us who are for a short turn around are not insinuating that its not that harmful, far from it. We are saying that its actually the opposite, and its helpful to Nintendo's business. The sooner that Nintendo announces Switch Redacted, the sooner that has a negative effect on Switch sales. They have the Zelda OLED edition releasing towards the end of April and Zelda TotK a couple weeks later. Nintendo knows that this will help bolster Switch sales, especially encouraging people to upgrade to the OLED model. If they announce in the next six weeks that Switch Redacted will release later this year, that will decrease demand for current model Switch units. Nintendo has in no way been misleading, they just aren't saying anything.

I do not expect a Switch Redacted announcement until July or August. This allows them to maximize sales for Switch with Zelda TotK and after a couple months things will have settled back down and they can do a teaser trailer and then a full blowout in September where they will also attend the Tokyo Game Show for hands on demonstrations. I am fully committed to the idea that Nintendo will continue to push Switch as hard as they can right up until the point where Switch Redacted is ready to go, and they wont do it a moment sooner than necessary because there is no upside and will only negatively effect sales for their current platform. If you think announcing Redacted in the next few weeks would have no negative effect on Switch sales, I don't know what to tell you. I guess we would have to agree to disagree because we are worlds apart on that.
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If they hypothetically do an announcement in July or August, would that most likely mean their Direct in June ends up just a Partners Mini Direct?
 
Thraktor said:
While I fully expect a combination of cross-gen and exclusive titles for [redacted], including an exclusive Mario, I don't think there's any evidence to support the claim that buying patterns of Switch owners is significantly different to that of Playstation or Xbox owners. The UK's Competition and Markets Authority, in their provisional findings on the Microsoft/Activision acquisition, stated in section 7.71 that:



This is based on confidential information provided by Microsoft, who obviously should know their own demographics, and are also the publisher of the most popular third-party title on Switch, so probably have a very good idea of Nintendo's as well. This is consistent with Nintendo's own reporting on Switch demographics, which they last showed in November 2021:

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There's a popular conception that Nintendo's audience is much more heavily weighted towards families and children than Microsoft's or Sony's, but I don't think there's actual evidence to that effect. In particular, I believe people (a) massively underestimate the number of grown-ass adults who play and enjoy Mario games and (b) massively underestimate the number of Playstations and Xboxes which are bought by parents so their kids can play FIFA/COD/etc.
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Why's age 22 such a spike relative to 21/23? Bachelor's degree celebration gift or something?

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The Gigaleak is why we know that Nintendo's original plan for the Switch was to launch in time for 2016's holiday season, but software delays pushed things to early 2017, right? Can we deduce a window for when plans changed?
 
n6s said:
Hi everyone! I'm posting here for the first time to say that, yup, the "Hawk" 4chan leak was fake. I wrote it. The title is a HMAC-SHA1 hash with the key HWK info 4 ya :) and the message beautiful DLSS future awaits. Sorry for doing that.

Most people here seemed very skeptical of the "leak," and I haven't seen anyone here buy into it 100%. However, today I saw someone on Twitter tweet it out at someone, and apparently a few small gaming news websites have written about it too. To anyone who I deceived (and I know that some of you are lurking here in the shadows), I'm sorry. This was just a creative exercise that I decided to post as a "leak" because I wanted to see what people thought of it. I was disappointed at first when it was ignored, but honestly, I felt kind of relieved too. I shouldn't have framed my predictions in a way that was dishonest.

The specs that I wrote out were definitely based on the discussions that were held here, but what's kind of funny is that some of those apparent connections were actually unintentional. I wrote most of that stuff in mid-February, but I didn't post it because there were already lots of rumors flying around, like the Drake cancellation rumor. So, I waited a bit longer to post it... and then the Pokemon rumor happened. So I waited some more, and then people started talking about a patent for a controller that can store save data. A couple of people mentioned that they wanted Streetpass to return, too. Oof. And yeah, the SCD similarity was unintentional. I'd never heard of that before.

Two other things that I want to clear up, in case anyone's still wondering about them: the CCD thing was basically just a description of Streetpass with smartphone support, with the extra possibility of future accessories supporting it too. Software-based gimmicks (such as optional smartphone features) seem like a great way to innovate and expand the reach of Nintendo's IP, in my opinion. Second, the "H" in "HLZ" was just mean to stand for the codename of the system, Hawk. I didn't imagine it as being anything more than a LZ-compressed file with a custom header. It was interesting to read about hierarchal and hybrid LZ compression though.

Since this is probably going to be my final post here, here are some hardware ideas that I think would be cool to see, even if they're not actually useful or viable:
  • A right stick that can be rotated when it's in its neutral position.
  • A small square-shaped button that's actually a screen. Like, one that you can press down on! Games could change its display to show what the button does, and it could even show visual cues related to whatever's going on in the game. Maybe it could match the color scheme of its Joy-Con.
  • A screen that can display pictures using infrared light. Imagine if you could just scan a QR code on someone else's screen without the need for any visible clutter? This wouldn't really work for a hybrid system, but it could be neat for a handheld.

So yeah, that's that. Goodbye, and take care!
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It felt too fake and un-Nintendo.

Not cool though dude. Especially at hungry times like these.
 
Look over there said:
The Gigaleak is why we know that Nintendo's original plan for the Switch was to launch in time for 2016's holiday season, but software delays pushed things to early 2017, right? Can we deduce a window for when plans changed?
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for Switch or for Drake? if for Drake, then it's impossible to know because circumstances for plans changing are unique to the hardware
 
Look over there said:
Why's age 22 such a spike relative to 21/23? Bachelor's degree celebration gift or something?
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Teenagers usually want to be treated as adult and as such are overly councious about doing anything which can be considered childish. At 21 they're officially adults and progressively stop being councious about it, peaking at 22.


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ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
So is the theory for "Nintendo will announce in August (!!!)" that Nintendo just doesn't want to sacrifice the precious Switch sales in... June and July in... Year 7... And will instead wait until August?
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I'm not particularly attached to any particular announcement date, I just think some of the "deadlines" people are setting are pretty arbitrary.

They can't exactly shadowdrop a console, but they only really need a few months to put one out, and Nintendo has overall been trending towards shorter announcement to release cycles for everything they do.
 
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Pokemaniac said:
I'm not particularly attached to any particular announcement date, I just think some of the "deadlines" people are pretty arbitrary.

They can't exactly shadowdrop a console, but they only really need a few months to put one out, and Nintendo has overall been trending towards shorter announcement to release cycles for everything they do.
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If a new Switch model needs around 2-3 months, Im going to guess a new more powerful Switch will need 4-5. After all, they need time to announce, then showcase software, and then have pre-orders up
 
Could it be that the next chip has Armv9 architecture, or they have something with greater security...

TotK would arrive with small graphic errors (I hope a patch will stabilize it), because although the Zelda team has done an outstanding job, the system would reach the came up with this ambitious concept of the game.

Let's not forget that the TotK game underwent an age review in Korea in mid-November 2022, therefore, estimating 60 days to locate and polish it, it may have been finished by the end of August 2022, thus I do not lose hope of a new system, this is due to From the words of Eiji A. producer of Zelda, who says that the development phase is now over at the end of March 2023, is he talking about another version with an additional 7 months of work?

Finally the concept of conflation applied to TotK I like it, I feel that they are moving away from Hiyao Miyazaki and they will break schemes in the Osamu Tezuka style.
 
Pokemaniac said:
I'm not particularly attached to any particular announcement date, I just think some of the "deadlines" people are pretty arbitrary.

They can't exactly shadowdrop a console, but they only really need a few months to put one out, and Nintendo has overall been trending towards shorter announcement to release cycles for everything they do.
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While the "Nintendo doesn't want to distract away from the Mario movie and TotK" theories for why Nintendo won't announce aren't super compelling, the "Nintendo may decide to skip announcing in June for no reason whatsoever even though nothing is releasing and Switch sales will be very low that month"... It's a lot less compelling and feels like preemptive coping.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
While the "Nintendo doesn't want to distract away from the Mario movie and TotK" theories for why Nintendo won't announce aren't super compelling, the "Nintendo may decide to skip announcing in June for no reason whatsoever even though nothing is releasing and Switch sales will be very low that month"... It's a lot less compelling and feels like preemptive coping.
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June is typically a big month for hardware sales, especially with summer vacation starting for students. Its almost always January, April, May, July, and August which tend to be on the low side for all three versus all the other months in the year
 
iness2 said:
Could it be that the next chip has Armv9 architecture, or they have something with greater security...

TotK would arrive with small graphic errors (I hope a patch will stabilize it), because although the Zelda team has done an outstanding job, the system would reach the came up with this ambitious concept of the game.

Let's not forget that the TotK game underwent an age review in Korea in mid-November 2022, therefore, estimating 60 days to locate and polish it, it may have been finished by the end of August 2022, thus I do not lose hope of a new system, this is due to From the words of Eiji A. producer of Zelda, who says that the development phase is now over at the end of March 2023, is he talking about another version with an additional 7 months of work?

Finally the concept of conflation applied to TotK I like it, I feel that they are moving away from Hiyao Miyazaki and they will break schemes in the Osamu Tezuka style.
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I believe Eiji means debugging and QA. These do take time.

And games don’t need to be finished for age rating. I believe it is common that age ratings are done months before a game is finished.
 
Hush said:
If a new Switch model needs around 2-3 months, Im going to guess a new more powerful Switch will need 4-5. After all, they need time to announce, then showcase software, and then have pre-orders up
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I’m not really sold on the last two adding an extra month. Showcasing software can happen after announcement in various forms & in pretty quick succession. Pre-orders will happen after the device is formally announced & it will probably be sold out anyway within minutes.
 
Look over there said:
Why's age 22 such a spike relative to 21/23? Bachelor's degree celebration gift or something?

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The Gigaleak is why we know that Nintendo's original plan for the Switch was to launch in time for 2016's holiday season, but software delays pushed things to early 2017, right? Can we deduce a window for when plans changed?
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The 21-25 cohort in 2021 would have been primary DS/Wii owners 10-15 years ago. I think that's the biggest legacy of those consoles is it kept Nintendo super relevant despite mobile exploding.
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
So is the theory for "Nintendo will announce in August (!!!)" that Nintendo just doesn't want to sacrifice the precious Switch sales in... June and July in... Year 7... And will instead wait until August?
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I can only speak for myself of course, but it comes down to there is nothing to gain by announcing a year in advance. In the modern world, information travels very fast, for better and worse. So if there is nothing to gain by announcing early, but it will have an adverse effect on the current Switch hardware sales, why do that? If there is no gain with the pain, why take on any pain at all, even if it's not significant?
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
While the "Nintendo doesn't want to distract away from the Mario movie and TotK" theories for why Nintendo won't announce aren't super compelling, the "Nintendo may decide to skip announcing in June for no reason whatsoever even though nothing is releasing and Switch sales will be very low that month"... It's a lot less compelling and feels like preemptive coping.
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To be clear, not announcing new hardware in a June Direct only to shortly later announce it in July is what nintendo did with the OLED.
 
Goodtwin said:
I can only speak for myself of course, but it comes down to there is nothing to gain by announcing a year in advance. In the modern world, information travels very fast, for better and worse. So if there is nothing to gain by announcing early, but it will have an adverse effect on the current Switch hardware sales, why do that? If there is no gain with the pain, why take on any pain at all, even if it's not significant?
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The gain is that you can officially talk about the system and be able to shoot down rumors. eg, until Nintendo announces the Switch 2, MVG etc can keep making new "it's not a slam dunk that the Switch 2 will have BC!" videos that get a lot of views each month. The closer we get to release without an announcement, the odds of massive leaks that Nintendo can't control the narrative on also increase. eg, if the Switch 2's price is $499, they could announce it after showing all the reasons the Switch 2 is worth that price at some Direct. If that number just leaks randomly instead because they just decide to not talk about the system until right before release... This goes beyond price as well obviously (eg, if the Switch 2 lacks feature X, Y, or Z or has annoying feature A, B, or C)
 
ItWasMeantToBe19 said:
The gain is that you can officially talk about the system and be able to shoot down rumors. eg, until Nintendo announces the Switch 2, MVG etc can keep making new "it's not a slam dunk that the Switch 2 will have BC!" videos that get a lot of views each month. The closer we get to release without an announcement, the odds of massive leaks that Nintendo can't control the narrative on also increase. eg, if the Switch 2's price is $499, they could announce it after showing all the reasons the Switch 2 is worth that price at some Direct. If that number just leaks randomly instead because they just decide to not talk about the system until right before release... This goes beyond price as well obviously (eg, if the Switch 2 lacks feature X, Y, or Z or has annoying feature A, B, or C)
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  • MVG videos don't mean shit to nintendo or their bottom line
  • well then they'll just have to get ahead of that. but when the point where leaks start damaging the narrative is a point which we can't measure. it's as hypothetical as the sun going red giant tomorrow
none of this shit is important enough to hurt Drake or is lacking in evidence to be conclusive.
 
ILikeFeet said:
  • MVG videos don't mean shit to nintendo or their bottom line
  • well then they'll just have to get ahead of that. but when the point where leaks start damaging the narrative is a point which we can't measure. it's as hypothetical as the sun going red giant tomorrow
none of this shit is important enough to hurt Drake or is lacking in evidence to be conclusive.
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I just don't see how the strategy of "simply hope there are zero damaging leaks even as we get very close to release so that the Switch can sell 530k a month instead of 500k a month for three more months" makes sense.
 
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