What concrete piece of information should make us believe that hardware A was cancelled and hardware B is now planned to release just one year later, while possibly even using the same chip? Because that just sounds like a bad game of telephone version of "hardware A was planned for this year but is now delayed."
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A78AE's extra function is that it's a safe-compute chip. For error-less processing needs (like autonomous vehicles and robotics), that's a boon. For general computing, it's a waste of silicon (A78AE features a more complex DynamIQ DSU because it's intended to facilitate 3 different modes that it can flip between at boot, some more suited to task than others). It's a CPU design with a very specific use-case, which is almost assuredly precisely why Drake isn't using it.
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I was good at the human beatbox in high school, hence the nickname LOL.Me too! And it wasn't one of my speculative ones, just a garden variety choco shitpost.
On the Switch side, IIRC, the Mario Red & Blue Edition came out in February 2021, and the Monster Hunter Rise Deluxe Edition in March. The OLED model was announced in July and released in October.
Yea. Its been discussed to death, but the whole delay/ cancellation situation is very hard to reconcile when we know T239 exists as a physical product.
Fair enough, there were some nuances although I believe he just clarified where he stands.
That's one sure thing! On the other hand, it seems pretty clear they are sure enough to report what's not happening. I assume for better or worse we will get some kind of confirmation soon enough if that's the case.
There are more productive ways to waste millions of dollars.
The video game adapted from the movie adapted from the video game. Let EPD do what they do best. Nintendo's IP are valuable because people love their games. They don't need to become marketing props, they just need to continue to be what they are: good games. If the movie was thought with a game in mind, then sure, why not. As you say, a modernized 2.5D Mario, which would be finally something else than New Super Mario, could be pleasant. But even with all the supervision in the world, this is not a Nintendo movie, the jokes we see in the trailer are actually very very typical of what Illumination does all the time. I'm not saying this to be pejorative, I'm just saying that we're not talking about an internal creative process here, despite the obvious collaboration.I wanted to share a cool Mario idea I had that I think would have worked on a Switch 2 and was kind of sort of the reason why I thought a Switch 2 was going to release this year. It's a bit hard to explain my vision as I see it in my head but I'm going to try so feel free to share your thoughts if you like what my concept or not.
It has been more then a decade since the last mainline 2D Mario entry (not including Mario Maker games). I had conceptualized the idea that we could get a 2D Mario game based on the film and scenery from the film but more then that, if Nintendo developed the tech right, a hybrid of something that infused 2D and 3D, I honestly think they could get very close to the movie visuals in a Switch 2 if the game was mostly played in 2D of course.
Many of the gorgeous platforming shots in the Mario movie I believe could be rendered in such a way where not everything has to actually be rendered in full 3D. I think Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze is kind of the closest to what I mean. Some near screen objects would be partially rendered in 3D and some background structures as well but a lot of other elements could be the CG shots infused into the experience.
It is my belief that we could have a 2D Mario game that gets very close to the visuals seen in the film. Not 1:1 obviously but close enough where it would very much look like you're playing segments of the movie. Of course I don't see this being possible on the Switch we have today.
I imagine that they could rework some of the designs seen in the film into a fully functional 2D Mario game and maybe even possibly get some of the voice actors for the game. Wouldn't it be cool to explore the Mushroom Kingdom we get in the film in a 2D movie tie-in video game that actually looks very close to the visuals of the film and some of the 2D shots in 4K?
Now granted, I don't see this happening anymore. There was a small window of time where I thought this could be coming but the Switch 2 release dynamic, well we all heard the latest on that.
Anyways I could see this being a fun one off Mario game. I wouldn't want every 2D Mario game to look like the movie but a single movie tie-in game with those visuals translated into a 2D side scrolling Mario game I think would be quite awesome and fun. Just to be clear, I'm not saying these visuals could be met 1:1 but I do think a Switch 2 could get extremely close. Enough that people wouldn't really care about any differences all that much. I want to avoid people telling me it's not possible to push those visuals entirely on a mobile chipset. I know it couldn't 100% match these visuals. I do think they could get close enough though where it generally looks like a massive upgrade of current Switch 2D Mario.
The videogame could serve as the sequel to the movie. The movie wraps up but leads into what would become the video game, could even feature a videogame trailer after the movie. This would have sold like crazy and I'm legitimately surprised Nintendo most likely hasn't thought of this themselves. This movie is going to be a massive blockbuster worldwide and pushing a videogame tie in that continues where the film left off would have been absurdly brilliant and Nintendo would be crushing it in sales. Imagine if the Switch 2 was out in April and this was a launch title. Switch 2 would absolutely be flying off of shelves lol.
I will say again, we are getting a major theme park and a major Mario movie this year when we have the lowest amount of Mario releases in 32 years (as someone has pointed out previously, don't remember the source) so I find it highly probably that we will get at LEAST one Mario adventure this year to look forward to. Could be a new 2D Mario. Could be a classic port or collection, a new 3D Mario (unlikely?), Super Mario Odyssey DLC (unlikely?) or something to buy. Nintendo is a videogame company after all and the Mario well has been pretty dry as of late. Nintendo is going to want us buying new games and most people already own the already released Mario games they wanted (though I'm sure those will receive an uptick in sales when the movie releases).
So what do you guys think? Do you like my idea? Do you think we will get a new Mario game this year? Is Nintendo going to casually drop a Switch 2 with open world Super Mario Beyond 4K and Tears of the Kingdom 4L?
P.S: I may or may not have had just a little too much coffee tonight.
The console equivalent of a laptop would probably be tabletop.To extend on the point of direct competition against the Playstation * and Series X:
We all agree that the Switch offers a separate area it participates/competes in by being able to be played handheld, tabletop, or hooked up to a display.
With it essentially being a tablet, it also carries with it a set of expectations that people would associate with tablet/mobile devices.
With tv-only boxes, because the PS5 and Xbox Series X exist, there already is a set of expectations to be met by such devices sold for $500 (or close to it) in the 2020's. Now, the Series S can get away with having less GPU grunt because it's in an entirely different price bracket. "Yea, it's the lesser Xbox, but a couple hundred bucks saved is a couple hundred bucks"
Btw fellas, don't lock your thinking into there being only two form factors; handheld and stationary TV-only boxes. There's a form factor in between that's been around for decades; laptops. And people intuitive know to some level that the laptop form factor has capabilities in between handheld and stationary big box. And correspondingly, have its own set of price to performance ratio expectations.
Yes, it's like the 3rd time or so I'm mentioning this. I'm gonna speak this into the existence eventually!
Now, I think that Nintendo should stick with the Switch form factor, so I'll keep this non-specific to any particular company:
Take a laptop, but remove the keyboard and mouse/touchpad. Maybe thicken it a bit, so it has enough depth such that you can have storage area(s) for controllers. 2 or 4 controllers, depending on size as well as the controllers themselves. For marketing, it's not a "Laptop" anymore. Now it's a "Party Box" or "Party Brick" (while emphasizing it dominating tabletop play but still having the option to hook up to a display). Hell, go even further; add a handle. Maybe add some latches to one side to be able to keep it closed more securely. Now it's a "Party Case".
Should be able to comfortably handle 192-bit or 256-bit of (insert latest DDR/LPDDR), depending on exact size and thickness. Hell, if you want a theoretical present day example: imagine Orin (the 32 GB variant), but drop the auto specific stuff and replace the 8 A78AE with 8 A78C, clocked up to maybe mid to high 2 Ghz on a N7 or N5 node (or should we even try to touch 3 Ghz? Hmm...)
More realistically though? Probably fast forward some years into the... let's say LPDDR6X era. Close to 2030, maybe? 192-bit LPDDR6X probably gets you to 409.6 GB/s; close to the PS5. 256-bit would be 546 GB/s. Add in a few generations of improvement to reconstruction techniques. A few more nodes. Further improved battery density. Imagine what one can do in the 28-35 watt bracket. Or the ~45 watt category. Or even that 'desktop replacement' 65 watt category.
I continue to suspect that what's happened is that only marketing around the device has changed in earnest, due to market conditions, and that the sudden fall off of insiders with information is Nintendo told everyone to shut their traps or never work with them again.
I liked the idea of Nintendo plugging holes with leakers who leaked deliberately wrong information. It worked for Smash.
I think it makes sense.
that feels like more words than necessary. "due to pandemic and shortages, we're pushing the release back a year"
This. I highly doubt a company like nintendo would throw a tantrum and say "nuh-uh, we are going to delay/cancel this product now because some of you couldn't just keep your mouths shut".
there were leaks on Switch and that wasn't cancelled.
It is debatable, or should I say highly questionable wether 8nm is viable in handheld mode at all without shenanigans like disabled SM. And even if they could, why would they? When they could rather have acheived similiar or higher performance with less silicon.
I think the increase in production is actually suspicious.
You fool. It's launching November 3, 2023 with Super Mario Adventure!
Nintendo officially hasn't said anything. Analysts are speculating that they are increasing production to 21m, correct? The earnings report on Feb 7 will let us know what their true hardware forecasts are.
There's no increased forecast yet. Bloomberg is reporting that some suppliers seem to be seeing an increase in orders from last year. That doesn't mean Nintendo plans to sell more Switches this year, we don't yet know what that means.
Ram is one of the things they can easily change last minute. A lot of devs thought the PS4 would have 4gb until the reveal.
And thus there is reason to suspect 2023 still. Few other scenarios make sense...
it could be that production wasn't scheduled to start yet in the first place. the chip being done is kinda independent of that.
What is that spec range you were hearing for the kits?
I think its likely that Drake was not the SOC for this mid generation refresh if it was indeed targeting a late 2022 release. The turnaround time from Drake being finalized to the new Switch model going to market would not have been in the cards for a late 2022 release. When MVG spoke with developers at GDC 2022, it should have been pretty obvious if this new model was releasing later that year. On top of that, 8NM Drake doesn't seem like it would fit the power budget for Switch and would more likely be developed on a better node. Nvidia would have good indication well in advance of what process they could go with and still have a very affordable SOC. Depending on when they planned to go into mass production, they would have a good idea of what process would be affordable. For example, a device going to market in 2021 using the 5nm process would be expensive, but a product using 5nm targeting late 2023 or 2024 release would have seen those cost come down significantly.
Ehh,
An order of magnitude bigger than SV seems extremely unlikely.
No matter how fucking excellent totk is, not many people who haven't played the original by now will buy a switch to play it. Some may upgrade to Oled for it though.
Keep in mind the supplier leaks are just that. They could be true, untrue, partially true etc.
How dare Nintendo decide that JiT manufacturing is too risky! How dare they!
Who does a 20 million final year?
Doesn't have to be a new user-end gimmick, but ~6 years of change in CPU/GPU/RAM/etc. is something slapping an updated SDK onto old hardware isn't going to properly convey. The changes go a lot beyond: Just develop a Switch game, then make it high res with an updated kit.
