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Raccoon said:
how is "tegra x1 will live forever" irrelevent lmfao
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He says it'll "feel" that way. And honestly, it already does.
We'll still have that silly Black Friday Mario Kart bundle with the Mariko Switch for years.
I can see future complaints of the Tegra X1 holding back Switch 2 games.
 
Raccoon said:
how is "tegra x1 will live forever" irrelevent lmfao

I understand your position but it feels like you've swung the other way
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All he said is "it'll certainly feel that way" and it has nothing to do with when Drake is launching either way.

This also has nothing to do with cross-gen. MS had $60 games up until now with a brand new console, Nate seems to think Nintendo will not raise their prices right away similarly.
 
Skittzo said:
All he said is "it'll certainly feel that way" and it has nothing to do with when Drake is launching either way.
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it will feel that way, as in it doesn't necessarily feel that way now but will in the future

I feel like I read an entirely different exchange than you
 
Raccoon said:
the most interesting question to me is whether the OLED model will be discontinued or if it will ascend to older brother's place in the aforementioned black friday bundle
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OLED will continue to be the premium Switch experience for the next 18 months+.

Glad I got one now.
 
Raccoon said:
it will feel that way, as in it doesn't necessarily feel that way now but will in the future

I feel like I read an entirely different exchange than you
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Yeah agreed, feels like we're living in alternate realities.

Here's what I read:

Jon: MS raising game prices, is Nintendo next?
Nate: I'd say probably 3 years
Jon: They'll be making games for Switch for a long time won't they
Nate: It'll sure feel like it


Again I fail to see where exactly this says or suggests anything about Drake.
 
Raccoon said:
the most interesting question to me is whether the OLED model will be discontinued or if it will ascend to older brother's place in the aforementioned black friday bundle
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  • Game Boy Pocket got harder to find even before the announcement of GBC. Got a silver color variant but it was a very rare find in the retailers.
  • OG GBA disappeared just 2-3 months after the release of GBA SP.
  • Officially DS Lite remained "in production" 7 months after DSi launch but it was very difficult to find. Color options were changed after DSi launch (red/black and blue/black).
  • They literally killed OG 3DS and XL on the day of New 3DS launch. OG 3DS was nowhere to be seen a year before the launch. 2DS stuck around until the very end.
 
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Herb Alpert said:
Without clarification this thread will quickly become hell lol
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It's fitting tbh lol.

Honestly, that tweet is such a nothing burger lmfao. If you aren't sure what a comment means it's best to ignore it. No need to overreact and try to fill in the blanks. This thread gets too crazy sometimes between the doomposting and unnecessary arrogance from 1 or 2 people. It's reminding me how the direct speculation thread got last summer. We're close to knowing what will(or won't) happen. Let's just relax lmao
 
I do solemnly swear to not shitpost in this thread as much when the dooming starts zooming
 
Skittzo said:
Yeah agreed, feels like we're living in alternate realities.

Here's what I read:

Jon: MS raising game prices, is Nintendo next?
Nate: I'd say probably 3 years
Jon: They'll be making games for Switch for a long time won't they
Nate: It'll sure feel like it


Again I fail to see where exactly this says or suggests anything about Drake.
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I had interpreted the tx1 living forever as being manufactured for longer than expected, rather than being supported with software. I'd concede that the latter is a better reading, but why would the current switch getting software for the foreseeable future be irrelevant to cross-gen? I get that it may seem like a foregone conclusion but the notion of the switch getting software for many years is absolutely relevant to the product that will allegedly be out in six months
 
Serif said:
Yeah 2025 makes sense for full-fat Drake exclusives to start popping up.

I don't anticipate TotK to be $70 but the next Zelda? I can see it.


Good old confirmation bias, it goes both ways.
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Zelda launched at over 70$ in Europe- since it launched at 70€ when the Euro was stronger than the dollar.

This is meaningless chit chat, the most we could infer is that the original Switch will be supported with full priced games for three additional years. That's not in any realm bad news.
 
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Kevin said:
Maybe we should start a poll; What will release first, PS5/XSX Pro or Switch Pro/2? 😄
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See I know this is a joke but I still can't fathom how this is a reaction you have to that tweet which, again, has literally zero bearing on when any successor/upgrade might happen.

This thread somehow takes the tiniest innocuous and entirely irrelevant exchange, has one person react negatively to it and then snowballs into full on doom way too often. It's frankly kinda embarassing.

Raccoon said:
I had interpreted the tx1 living forever as being manufactured for longer than expected, rather than being supported with software. I'd concede that the latter is a better reading, but why would the current switch getting software for the foreseeable future be irrelevant to cross-gen? I get that it may seem like a foregone conclusion but the notion of the switch getting software for many years is absolutely relevant to the product that will allegedly be out in six months
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Because none of their conversation has anything to do with a new gen or a new model or anything of the like. Saying that Switch will be supported a long time is like, the least controversial thing someone can say when the install base will be close to 150M when all is said and done.

They were still making Wii games in 2020.
 
Before the thread gets doomier and gloomier, allow me to come out of lurking to give an update on the inventory level:

I had been waiting for Nintendo IR to release the biannual inventory data to no avail, therefore I finally took a look at their Japanese page and it's there all along—not sure why they don't want to publish this in English. Regardless, from March to September, the stockpile of raw materials gained further 34,298 million yen (251 million USD), to the total of 142,110 million yen (1.04 billion USD).

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(Unit: 1 million yen)

Compared to a year ago (09/2021), the inventory of raw materials grew 48.1%, on top of an already elevated level. Didn't they forecast the hardware sales to decline by 9.8% this fiscal year to 18 million units? Actually, their inventory of finished goods did decreased by 11.7% from last year, which tracks the forecasted decline, therefore I don't know how Nintendo can explain away the growth of raw materials—while they prepare to sell less hardware.
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l-dawg979 said:
so anyone else see the new sitch patent? people think its the switch pro but i think its a zelda tears of the kingdom oled special edition. not a switch pro. nintendo wont ever do a pro switch. they will just milk the current switch as long as they can.
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I'm not a patent expert, but it seems the same OLED Model patent that Nintendo filed in Japan, just now registered in EU.
 
I'm just glad I didn't catalyze the doom cycle this time tbh

Skittzo said:
Because none of their conversation has anything to do with a new gen or a new model or anything of the like. Saying that Switch will be supported a long time is like, the least controversial thing someone can say when the install base will be close to 150M when all is said and done.

They were still making Wii games in 2020.
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that's all fair I suppose. I guess even the smatterings of wii games made it feel immortal
 
The model launching with ttok is gonna end up being a special edition in a greenish color.

That’s what I’ve always believe.
 
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Skittzo said:
See I know this is a joke but I still can't fathom how this is a reaction you have to that tweet which, again, has literally zero bearing on when any successor/upgrade might happen.

This thread somehow takes the tiniest innocuous and entirely irrelevant exchange, has one person react negatively to it and then snowballs into full on doom way too often. It's frankly kinda embarassing.


Because none of their conversation has anything to do with a new gen or a new model or anything of the like. Saying that Switch will be supported a long time is like, the least controversial thing someone can say when the install base will be close to 150M when all is said and done.

They were still making Wii games in 2020.
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I'm mostly just poking fun. I'll let Nate clarify his comments later if he wants. I'm not hung up on his every word.

I'm personally thinking 2024 for new hardware at this stage though. Maybe later but I hope not. Would love to be wrong but I really don't see new hardware coming next year. We even got a Switch hardware patent that, at least to me, suggests a Switch OLED Zelda bundle is planned. While that in itself doesn't confirm no new hardware, we have to be honest, it's not looking good so far for 2023 and releasing with Zelda...
 
fwd-bwd said:
I had been waiting for Nintendo IR to release the biannual inventory data to no avail, therefore I finally took a look at their Japanese page and it's there all along—not sure why they don't want to publish this in English. Regardless, from March to September, the stockpile of raw materials gained further 34,298 million yen (251 million USD), to the total of 142,110 million yen (1.04 billion USD).
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Couldn't a lot of it be for the building of their new HQ building?
 
I mean that Pokeball and Dragon Quest new 2DS XLs released after the Switch, don’t see why they wouldn’t do special edition Switch systems after Drake’s launch.
 
Kevin said:
We even got a Switch hardware patent that, at least to me, suggests a Switch OLED Zelda bundle is planned.
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How does it suggest this? I don't remember patents for previous special editions. I don't even believe that is something that can be patented unless there is a change in the device's design, hardware wise, or it's a renewal.
 
Kevin said:
I'm mostly just poking fun. I'll let Nate clarify his comments later if he wants. I'm not hung up on his every word.

I'm personally thinking 2024 for new hardware at this stage though. Maybe later but I hope not. Would love to be wrong but I really don't see new hardware coming next year. We even got a Switch hardware patent that, at least to me, suggests a Switch OLED Zelda bundle is planned. While that in itself doesn't confirm no new hardware, we have to be honest, it's not looking good so far for 2023 and releasing with Zelda...
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Nate doesn't need to clarify, the tweet exchange is extremely clear. And it has no bearing on this.

Also there is no patent suggesting a Switch OLED model. The only recent patent filings have been foreign filings or continuations, none of which are drawn to anything different from the previous ones in 2021 and 2020. I am actually an expert on patents.
 
Serif said:
How does it suggest this? I don't remember patents for previous special editions. I don't even believe that is something that can be patented unless there is a change in the device's design, hardware wise, or it's a renewal.
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yeah, you don't patent a minor reskin.
I hope?
 
Raccoon said:
I had interpreted the tx1 living forever as being manufactured for longer than expected, rather than being supported with software. I'd concede that the latter is a better reading
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Is there a very big difference? I thought most people were expecting Nintendo to continue releasing a lot of things base Switch could still play for at least a few years, and it'll be hard to replace the Lite before then.
 
Raccoon said:
I sometimes feel like half of you are trolling but I don't know which half or even which half I'm on
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I’m just trying to carry out a gradual disclosure process so that the news of no new hardware next year doesn’t hurt too much when it becomes apparent.

I’m an expert at picking up the slightest of signals, whether they come through tone or language. People here might not be believers - but my force visions are telling me people are going to be disappointed. We’ll all be playing TotK on TX1.
 
At this point all we can do is be patient. This is a transition that Nintendo has to get right if they want to continue the massive success they have going now. Launching new hardware with Zelda is always a winner, but 3D Mario is also a prime candidate. We also don't know if they are planning on marketing this as a next generation or just a more powerful version added to the current Switch family. I think we will know by March, if 2023 has new hardware in the cards.
 
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Are people really taking about the European patent that was applied for in January as if it is indicative of something imminent?
I never predicted that the OLED model would be bamboozling people for longer after release than it was before release.
 
Stinky Horse said:
Are people really taking about the European patent that was applied for in January as if it is indicative of something imminent?
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Define "people." We've gotten some thread drivebys from folks who clearly don't know how to read the patent and are asking, in earnestness, for an expert opinion if it means anything and getting the same answer, which is "no."

We're not the only speculation thread in the world, but I suspect we're one of the more technically minded and trusted? It seems like things crop up in the wild and folks come here for a reality check. Since "the wild" is often copy and pasting things they find in this thread for click bait, we get these little mini-cycles where someone finds something, it gets posted here, it gets shot down, lurkers here pick it up for cross posting elsewhere, and then it finds it's way back to here.

That seems to be what is happening with the patent application. It happened recently with the NERD patent as well.
 
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