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To use DLSS you need an NVIDIA RTX GPUwhat kind of gpu do these have ?
Any of them will work, just needs to be a RTX card, or the MX570 (I think) on laptops as the minimum
To use DLSS you need an NVIDIA RTX GPUwhat kind of gpu do these have ?
A parody video I made inspired by this thread, feel free to criticise.
Noooo!I submit a Pikmin or a snarky rat.
I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here, could you rephrase? Sorry.Noooo!
Looking back at the thread marked info that LiC posted, I missed that it refers to them as “NX device” and “NX product”
When nvidia also has NX but they don’t refer to it as device in that sense.
That 10 gb on series s, is actually less than 8gb available to devs.Speaking of production and RBM- I mean, RAM, I really hope our Inkling(heh) about 12GB of LPDDR5 is right. It seems to be likely, and it would put Nintendo consoles right slap bang in the middle of the memory game this gen, firmly planting them as "back in the high performance home console space"- by force of will, despite being a handheld. If all we see happening truly comes to pass, there should be a LOT of "ports" of Series X|S and PS5 games. No longer an arduous, and possibly expensive prospect, when you already need to make a version for the 10GB of (albeit faster) RAM in the Series S or Microsoft will stand in your way.
https://famiboards.com/threads/futu...nology-speculation-st.55/page-517#post-413799I don't quite understand what you're trying to say here, could you rephrase? Sorry.
Second-Generation Maxwell GPUs: Second-generation Maxwell GPUs have nearly the same feature set as the GPU core inside the NX device. [...] This class of GPUs is strongly recommended for NVN development on Windows.
Turing GPUs: The NVN Windows reference implementation is supported on Turing-based GPUs but Ampere-based GPUs are more preferable since they are more compatible with the NX implementation.
Pardon my ignorance but what does this mean? The FY3/25?FB4932-E8-543-B-4828-BF7-B-D939396-A4-ED5 hosted at ImgBB
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It’s not like they use 16GB anyway. PS5 uses like 12-12.5 for games, and Series X has 13.5GB for games but it has a unique memory configuration.That 10 gb on series s, is actually less than 8gb available to devs.
While the Os reservation on Switch is currently 750 mb. We can assume it will be increased on Drake, but I doubt it will match the others.
Series S was 7,5gb at launch, and pretty recently it got increased by “several hundred megabytes”, so now it’s at least 7,7.It’s not like they use 16GB anyway. PS5 uses like 12-12.5 for games, and Series X has 13.5GB for games but it has a unique memory configuration.
So, 10.5-11GB of memory for games assuming they keep it small still and pretty lean.
Drake will be targeting a lower fidelity in the end, and if it ends up with 12GB of memory it wouldn’t be that far from the PS5.
Series S struggle is more apparent in that, it’s 7.5GB for games, give or take, and then it jumps 4.5-5GB and 6GB respectively for the other two.
I think a GB or 2 for Drake not having it is ok for the bracket it’ll be in, and it does not need 16GB. However 8GB (so 6.5-7GB for games) would make it a lot harder than the last time which was 3-3.2GB vs 4.5-5GB.
I think that document is predictions from a finance website.https://famiboards.com/threads/futu...nology-speculation-st.55/page-517#post-413799
Nvidia refers to NX as a product, an implementation and a device.
Which isn’t the same as their own NX products, ORIN NX, XAVIER NX. Who aren’t a device, but subset products of existing products that have the same implementation (ie, they do not differ).
Pardon my ignorance but what does this mean? The FY3/25?
Is it like, Q3 of FY2025? So around October-November 2024?
Pardon my ignorance but what does this mean? The FY3/25?
Is it like, Q3 of FY2025? So around October-November 2024?
That’s not going to really save it… it’s still a large gap between it and the Other two consoles. And the increase in memory for the series S is only if the developer chooses to disable features on the system when a game is playing. Such as disabling recording for example.Series S was 7,5gb at launch, and pretty recently it got increased by “several hundred megabytes”, so now it’s at least 7,7.
I think that document is predictions from a finance website.
I know what it is, I’m asking what FY3/25 means.Nintendo is currently in FY 23. FY 24 starts next April. FY 3/25 translates to holiday season (Oct, Nov, Dec) in calendar year 2024.
But i somehow doubt Nintendo would blatantly put something like this in an earnings slide.
I know what it is, I’m asking what FY3/25 means.
If it is supposed to mean Q3 of FY25 then I know where it is supposed to be. But it says FY3/25. Is that supposed to be Q3 of 2024? because it reads as though it is saying fiscal year 3, the switch is entering FY7 in April.
This is more like a prediction I assume from one of the investors, and they see Nintendo prolonging the lifespan of the device. I don’t know how, but they foresee them lengthening it.
I don't really put a lot of weight into analyst predictions about when hardware is coming. The set of information they're working with isn't really conducive to accurately predicting a process that has to be put in motion so far ahead of time.FB4932-E8-543-B-4828-BF7-B-D939396-A4-ED5 hosted at ImgBB
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I think it’s supposed to mean “March/2025”Oh sorry, got that wrong then.
I assume it's Q3 since this is an analysis about earnings. Since earnings are done in Q per FY, it somehow makes sense for me to see it as Q3.
Excuse my ignorance, but the formatting to me implies FY23/24That’s not going to really save it… it’s still a large gap between it and the Other two consoles. And the increase in memory for the series S is only if the developer chooses to disable features on the system when a game is playing. Such as disabling recording for example.
It’s like adding a bucket of water to a pool that contains several thousand gallons of water, like yeah there’s more but it’s still a far cry from the other two pools that can hold even more water.
I know what it is, I’m asking what FY3/25 means.
If it is supposed to mean Q3 of FY25 then I know where it is supposed to be. But it says FY3/25. Is that supposed to be Q3 of 2024? because it reads as though it is saying fiscal year 3, the switch is entering FY7 in April.
This is more like a prediction I assume from one of the investors, and they see Nintendo prolonging the lifespan of the device. I don’t know how, but they foresee them lengthening it.
It makes no sense for them to do that, since they did it again for “FY3/25”Excuse my ignorance, but the formatting to me implies FY23/24
And they just dropped the 2?
So, fiscal year starting April 2023?
Honestly I'm surprised you found that funnier than Drake nearly popping a cap at Shigeru MiyamotoHonestly this video had me giggling literally hours after I watched it. "Random B*tchless Memory"
"Goofy ahhh device."
While I don't like, necessarily, that they were used, the fact ass is censored but b*tch, a sexist(ish) slur, isn't, is very funny to me.
Damn this thread is gonna have 3000 pages if the Switch successor launches in 2025.I think it’s supposed to mean “March/2025”
as March is the 3rd month of the calendar year, and the FY ends there for Nintendo.
“We look for next-generation hardware to launch in FY3/25 or later, and while details here remain unclear, the company has not ruled out backward compatibility with older consoles. We see profits continuing to trend gradually higher amid the migration to the new platform.”
Basically taking into account what I said, if I’m right, they look forward to next generation hardware releasing in the FY ending 2025, or later. So April 1,2024-March 31, 2025 is what they are saying they expect for new hardware.
So they are not expecting hardware before April 1 2024, just sometime after March 31, 2024. Or later.
Damn this thread is gonna have 3000 pages if the Switch successor launches in 2025.
I hope Nintendo™ do a collab with the famous rapper Drake, as he will be a major part of the system itself along with 1 GB of RBM.
Actually:Random Bowser Memory
It's a bespoke kind of memory developed specifically to accelerate the kind of data produced by implementing Fury Bowser. All Switch 2 games will now either look like PS2 games or contain Fury Bowser.
But seriously, I'm still team March 2023. No way it's 2025.
The factory leak was reliable. You don't start test production four years in advance.
Actually there’s no correlation for that. It’s simply testing. It can go either way.But seriously, I'm still team March 2023. No way it's 2025.
The factory leak was reliable. You don't start test production four years in advance.
It’s not saying it’ll launch in 2025.Damn this thread is gonna have 3000 pages if the Switch successor launches in 2025.
I mean being fair launching in 2025 would be on time for Nintendo saying they want an 8-10 year life span of the Switch. It would also mean they have time to tweak the energy needs of the processor to balance battery life and performance.Actually there’s no correlation for that. It’s simply testing. It can go either way.
And it’s not saying 2025, it’s saying anytime within the fiscal year that ends in 2025, which is March 31st 2025.
That means they expect it sometime in the span of April 1st, 2024 to March 31st, 2025. And if not then, they expect it after that window.
It’s not saying it’ll launch in 2025.
FY25=/=CY25 for Nintendo. It means the year that spans from the above date before this quote.
And before anyone says anything about how it’s dubious because Nintendo isn’t consistent, they’ve been fairly consistent as of late and clearly moved to that formatting.
They never said that.I mean being fair launching in 2025 would be on time for Nintendo saying they want an 8-10 year life span of the Switch.
That’s nvidia, not Nintendo. And they leave it to a supercomputer to do this.It would also mean they have time to tweak the energy needs of the processor to balance battery life and performance.
That’s nvidia, not Nintendo. And they leave it to a supercomputer to do this.
So 92% of the work doesn’t really involve humans.
I still think that timeframe is extremely unrealistic. Given the factory worker said that testing was in May, and speculated it would launch sooner than later. I'd bet they meant a new backplate in MASS production. Plus the processor has been finalised. 2025 is... Yeah, no.Actually there’s no correlation for that. It’s simply testing. It can go either way.
And it’s not saying 2025, it’s saying anytime within the fiscal year that ends in 2025, which is March 31st 2025.
That means they expect it sometime in the span of April 1st, 2024 to March 31st, 2025. And if not then, they expect it after that window.
It’s not saying it’ll launch in 2025.
FY25=/=CY25 for Nintendo. It means the year that spans from the above date before this quote.
And before anyone says anything about how it’s dubious because Nintendo isn’t consistent, they’ve been fairly consistent as of late and clearly moved to that formatting.
No more perverse than humans making humans.
I couldn't resist posting this img in this context. ^^
You’re reading way too much into this, just because it includes March does not mean it is going to release in March or close to it, the whole purpose is a window or timeframe for which they are making their prediction/speculation on.I still think that timeframe is extremely unrealistic. Given the factory worker said that testing was in May, and speculated it would launch sooner than later. I'd bet they meant a new backplate in MASS production. Plus the processor has been finalised. 2025 is... Yeah, no.
And before someone goes off about 2025 Vs FY 2025.
FY2025 includes March 2025.
If it launches in FY2025 I will eat a Joy-Con on camera.
Plus, I'd personally say I trust Nate over Citi when it comes to this stuff. Again, maybe I'm just being too hopeful.
No more perverse than humans making humans.
A "random internet person" who's gotten these details right before, backed up by Bloomberg, who has also been right before, versus a... Bank?No more perverse than humans making humans.
You’re reading way too much into this, just because it includes March does not mean it is going to release in March or close to it, the whole purpose is a window or timeframe for which they are making their prediction/speculation on.
They have set aside a whole year which the majority is in the former(2024), not the latter(2025). Just because it includes March and that is in the year 2025 should not be read more than “they expected in the fiscal year after the next one”, nothing more than that. They are basically saying they expect it for 2024.
And if not in 2024, they expect it for the following FY ending in 03/26. Meaning the year 2025 is where they really expect it.
The only time you’d even consider the last 3 months would be in an extreme circumstance.
They aren’t going to operate by the calendar year.
Also as an aside, I personally find the idea of believing a random person on the internet over say, an analyst in the industry an interesting idea. Funny, but interesting nonetheless.
That said, and once again, I want to emphasize that this is simply a prediction by the analysts at Citibank.
Hell, it quite literally says this:
“We update our forecasts based on Q2 results and our follow-up with the company; we leave our target price unchanged and continue to rate the shares Buv. We forecast FY3/24 OP of +9.5% YoY premised on the launch of multiple major new titles, a recovery in Switch hardware supply, steady growth in Nintendo Switch Online and other digital revenue, and margin improvement on the back of SG&A optimization. We look for next-generation hardware to launch in FY3/25 or later, and while details here remain unclear, the company has not ruled out backward compatibility with older consoles. We see profits continuing to trend gradually higher amid the migration to the new platform.”
OP-Operating Profit.
Thank you for that, I forgot we have a resource in install base that has even a dictionary of sorts for these phrases. Actually I’m lying, I didn’t even know we had that there.
A "random internet person" who's gotten these details right before, backed up by Bloomberg, who has also been right before, versus a... Bank?
I think I'll side with the people in the gaming and technology industry over the finance industry when it comes to gaming technology.
Bloomberg has been dead silent about Nintendo's hardware for over a year. Mochizuki's only official coverage this year was that misinterpretation of Nikkei's reporting, which went against Nate's reporting of late 22/early 23:
Additionally, Nate's info is from October of last year and he has also been very quiet as of late. You shouldn't disregard analyst's opinions so quickly imo
Of course this could have been delayed, and plans can always change, but we recently saw Nvidia start pushing upstream commits for T239 into the Linux kernel. This isn't something you see until manufacturing has started (or at least engineering samples are available), and indicates the chip has started, or is soon to start, full scale manufacturing.
Genuine question here, what are the odds that this is the current scenario:
This sounds kind of like not launching Switch until Mariko.I mean being fair launching in 2025 would be on time for Nintendo saying they want an 8-10 year life span of the Switch. It would also mean they have time to tweak the energy needs of the processor to balance battery life and performance.
Damn this thread is gonna have 3000 pages if the Switch successor launches in 2025.
I hope Nintendo™ do a collab with the famous rapper Drake, as he will be a major part of the system itself along with 1 GB of RBM.
Genuine question here, what are the odds that this is the current scenario:
If the Wii U wasn't a dud that would have been fineThis sounds kind of like not launching Switch until Mariko.
It’s simply a prediction and nothing more.A "random internet person" who's gotten these details right before, backed up by Bloomberg, who has also been right before, versus a... Bank?
I think I'll side with the people in the gaming and technology industry over the finance industry when it comes to gaming technology.
I think them not using is more easily explained by the target of what Shield occupies. ORIN, even binned, are >450mm^2 dies.I wouldn't be surprised if that was a joke tweet. but a new shield isn't unreasonable for binned chips. the question is why they'd use this instead of binned Orins
though at that, they just might be using both. shaved down Drakes and Orins to be the same spec (4 cpu cores? 6?) and put them into a dump product. would make for a really nice ARM test platform with a strong gpu at least
if Nvidia is going back to the tube design, then yea, I can see it being too big. but if they do the original design, they won't care. which design is cheaper, I guess.I think them not using is more easily explained by the target of what Shield occupies. ORIN, even binned, are >450mm^2 dies.
While Drake would be much smaller and much easier to deal with.
I seen this posted before, and dont understand the logic.I wouldn't be surprised if that was a joke tweet. but a new shield isn't unreasonable for binned chips. the question is why they'd use this instead of binned Orins
though at that, they just might be using both. shaved down Drakes and Orins to be the same spec (4 cpu cores? 6?) and put them into a dump product. would make for a really nice ARM test platform with a strong gpu at least
depends on how and why the chip is binned. if it can't reach Nintendo's clocks, then it'll probably be turned to sand. if some partitions don't work, being shaved down for Shield makes sense. same if it doesn't hit power consumption targets as Shield would be much more lenientI seen this posted before, and dont understand the logic.
The shield is likely to have less conservative clocks than Nintendo. If a chip aint good enough for Nintendo, it isnt for the Shield either.
I think the most likely usecase for binned Drakes, are jetson boards.
The shield would be competing with the likes of the Apple 4KTV which can fit within a $150 range, it would be more expensive than that who uses a much newer node to boot.if Nvidia is going back to the tube design, then yea, I can see it being too big. but if they do the original design, they won't care. which design is cheaper, I guess.
Genuine question here, what are the odds that this is the current scenario:
Does a streaming box really need 8 CPU cores and a 12 SM GPU? If Nvidia release a new Shield TV, they’ll be selling it on the basis of support for the newest codecs, and possibly HDMI 2.1/8K output or whatever. I don’t see them funding game ports to the hardware like they did last time around, as they have GeForce Now, which seems like a better avenue for gaming on that kind of device. For the Android game that users might play on it, even 6 SMs would probably be overkill. My guess is they take defect-binned (not voltage-binned) T239 chips, with maybe 4 CPU cores (clocked higher than Nintendo will) and 6 SMs.I seen this posted before, and dont understand the logic.
The shield is likely to have less conservative clocks than Nintendo. If a chip aint good enough for Nintendo, it isnt for the Shield either.
I think the most likely usecase for binned Drakes, are jetson boards.