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[Apopheniac]

Everybody in the know (my minds a little hazy), was it rumoured Monolith Soft has been working on another game besides Xenoblade 3?

From the dedicated thread:

The Mysterious Recruitment Page - What We Know

In August 2017, Monolith Soft posted a mass-recruitment page for their Tokyo studio. According to Gematsu's translation, Monolith Soft was looking for designers, programmers, planners, and management support. In particular, they were seeking staff who had experience with action games. When the recruitment page first went live, the positions were said to be for “an ambitious project different from the brand image of Monolith Soft.” This line was removed from the recruitment page later on, but the rest of the recruitment page is still up on Monolith Soft's website. The recruitment page predates any official mention of Production Divsion 1 or Production Division 2. It only mentioned that the positions were for Monolith Soft's Tokyo studio.

 

[kaya bunji]

* Hidden text: cannot be quoted. *

Or Casiopea. Jazz fusion is so sick.

 

[Chie]

Everybody in the know (my minds a little hazy), was it rumoured Monolith Soft has been working on another game besides Xenoblade 3?

A lot of people have latched onto this piece of recruitment art as an actual in development game. A lot of companies create art they use for recruitment websites, but they aren't for actual games.

It was also posted 5 years ago. In that Monolithsoft has finished Xenoblade 2, along with it's dlc (Torna included), all of Xenoblade 3 and is making it's dlc. Also Xenoblade 1 DE. Plus assisting Zelda. Not too mention all the time lost due to the pandemic. They realistically don't have any other new game to ship soon.

 

[Beelzemontheworld]

Mario gets a lot of spinoffs because he's Nintendo's mascot and by far in a way it's most well known and popular series. Pokemon gets a lot of spin offs too. But getting back to Zelda, I'm not really sure what the issue is. You seem to of the belief that it's hard to make a Zelda spinoff but you yourself have listed off a good amount of spinoff the series has gotten. Since 2014, the series has gotten two Warriors games, an indie cross over game, and Link has appeared in Mario Kart. Based on that, it seems relatively easy for a Zelda spinoff to be approved of. Retro's spinoff didn't get approved because it was a Zelda game. It didn't get approved because it was bad.

Yeah Zelda has been getting some solid spin off content recently, and the Retro Zelda being bad was the reason it didn’t get made. But Zelda isn’t getting spin offs anywhere near the level of how many spin off games Mario gets. My viewpoint was more like comparing how both series handle/get spin offs and less just purely why Zelda is or isn’t getting spin offs. Like I’m sure we’ll continue to see Zelda spin-offs like cadence and the warriors but idk if we’ll ever see like a stealth based Sheikah series or like a dedicated spin off series where Zelda is the main character (in the same way Paper Mario became its own series) because of the state of the industry right now.

Like games take longer to make and more people to make than ever before, so like is it worth it for Nintendo to invest Zelda spin-offs right now when those resources could be dedicated to the main game. Idk if this is making sense right now haha, but like a lot of Mario spin-offs where first created when games took less work (in terms of raw numbers/hours/cost) to make and persist because they became their own strong selling series or because they help to build the whole mascot-ness of Mario and his friends.

Then I guess continuing off that like looking at the spaces each series occupies, Mario is Nintendo’s mascot so it makes sense that he’s constantly appearing across many different games during a console’s life cycle and building his brand and Nintendo’s brand through the lens of a mascot. Whereas Legend of Zelda is more like Nintendo’s prestige series, like they’re always some of the most acclaimed games of their generation/console, does something like that really need a ton of extra investment in spin-offs to continue to build that brand? Like obviously there will always be some that happen for whatever reason and accounting for some classic Nintendo quirkiness, but like never in the same way as Mario does.

Idk if that’s what was originally be asked, but I was using it as a sort of jumping off point to talk about something I’d been thinking of in my head and wanted to type out. Hopefully that made sense/answered what you were asking instead of me just rambling through text/not really making my point of view any clearer. why did I write so much ;p

 

[Psyborg]

but in order to do that they'd have to make up some sort of contrived reason for the different Xenoblade worlds to merge together and I just don't see that working

It would work. The contrived reasoning oughta do it.

 

[HockeyBird]

Yeah Zelda has been getting some solid spin off content recently, and the Retro Zelda being bad was the reason it didn’t get made. But Zelda isn’t getting spin offs anywhere near the level of how many spin off games Mario gets. My viewpoint was more like comparing how both series handle/get spin offs and less just purely why Zelda is or isn’t getting spin offs. Like I’m sure we’ll continue to see Zelda spin-offs like cadence and the warriors but idk if we’ll ever see like a stealth based Sheikah series or like a dedicated spin off series where Zelda is the main character (in the same way Paper Mario became its own series) because of the state of the industry right now.

Like games take longer to make and more people to make than ever before, so like is it worth it for Nintendo to invest Zelda spin-offs right now when those resources could be dedicated to the main game. Idk if this is making sense right now haha, but like a lot of Mario spin-offs where first created when games took less work (in terms of raw numbers/hours/cost) to make and persist because they became their own strong selling series or because they help to build the whole mascot-ness of Mario and his friends.

Then I guess continuing off that like looking at the spaces each series occupies, Mario is Nintendo’s mascot so it makes sense that he’s constantly appearing across many different games during a console’s life cycle and building his brand and Nintendo’s brand through the lens of a mascot. Whereas Legend of Zelda is more like Nintendo’s prestige series, like they’re always some of the most acclaimed games of their generation/console, does something like that really need a ton of extra investment in spin-offs to continue to build that brand? Like obviously there will always be some that happen for whatever reason and accounting for some classic Nintendo quirkiness, but like never in the same way as Mario does.

Idk if that’s what was originally be asked, but I was using it as a sort of jumping off point to talk about something I’d been thinking of in my head and wanted to type out. Hopefully that made sense/answered what you were asking instead of me just rambling through text/not really making my point of view any clearer. why did I write so much ;p

I don't think you be comparing the number of spinoffs Mario gets with any other franchise other than Pokemon. The gulf in popularity and name recognition between Mario and Zelda is massive. Besides, if you remove the Mario sports titles, what Mario spinoffs have been released on the Switch? Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion, and Mario Kart (which hasn't gotten a brand new title since 2014). Are we counting Mario Maker as a spinoff? Has there even a brand new Mario spinoff series for Switch? All of the Mario spinoffs in Switch have been sequels to existing series. On Switch, Zelda has gotten Hyrule Warriors and Cadence of Hyrule. That's not bad honestly.

 

[chocolate_supra]

It would work. The contrived reasoning oughta do it.

*eyeballs the XB3 postgame discussion thread*
But would it, though?

 

[VitalitySensor]

If F-Zero is in the Direct I'll delete my account

 

[RealUncleNintendo]

A lot of people have latched onto this piece of recruitment art as an actual in development game. A lot of companies create art they use for recruitment websites, but they aren't for actual games.

It was also posted 5 years ago. In that Monolithsoft has finished Xenoblade 2, along with it's dlc (Torna included), all of Xenoblade 3 and is making it's dlc. Also Xenoblade 1 DE. Plus assisting Zelda. Not too mention all the time lost due to the pandemic. They realistically don't have any other new game to ship soon.

 

[Raccoon]

If F-Zero is in the Direct I'll delete my account

if I had a nickel for every time the vitality sensor died, I'd have two nickels

which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice

 

[Red Monster]

If F-Zero is in the Direct I'll delete my account

This seems to be taking things to a new and unnecessary level

 

[Raccoon]

This seems to be taking things to a new and unnecessary level

personally I am all about new and unnecessary levels

 

[Plubio]

If the next 2D Mario game looked like the 3D World style from Maker 2, I would be very pleased.

Honestly? This.
I've been messing around again with Maker 2 after a while and it looks so great. Just combine it with some 2.5D action like Donkey Kong Country Returns and 3DS Kirby titles.

Although they will probably stick to new visuals, which are also fine on my book. I need a new Mario, I'm craving for it, I don't care if 2D or 3D, just Mario.

 

[HockeyBird]

If F-Zero is at the Direct, I swear to God that I will silently utter the word "neat" in my head!

 

[Phendrift]

Genuine question for the thread but do any of you folks genuinely want to see a Sci-Fi mainline zelda or a zelda set in space bc I do not understand the appeal of that at all.

Sneaking in a secret quest or implementing something extra terrestrial in BotW2 as a side quest/expansion? Fully down for that. Just don't want it as an overall theme for a main game.

I think it could be a cool vibe. There’s a certain quiet beauty of space that I think Zelda could capture really well, that Metroid doesn’t because it’s more tense (though the Prime games do have their moments)

Think Gateway Galaxy or Space Junk Galaxy in Mario Galaxy. Nintendo nailed that atmosphere. Mario probably won’t go back to it, so why not have Zelda take a shot?

Like I’m not imagining sci fi zelda, just literally medieval Zelda we know set in space.

 

[Beelzemontheworld]

I don't think you be comparing the number of spinoffs Mario gets with any other franchise other than Pokemon. The gulf in popularity and name recognition between Mario and Zelda is massive. Besides, if you remove the Mario sports titles, what Mario spinoffs have been released on the Switch? Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion, and Mario Kart (which hasn't gotten a brand new title since 2014). Are we counting Mario Maker as a spinoff? Has there even a brand new Mario spinoff series for Switch? All of the Mario spinoffs in Switch have been sequels to existing series. On Switch, Zelda has gotten Hyrule Warriors and Cadence of Hyrule. That's not bad honestly.

I mean yeah you can’t really compare the number of spin-offs they get because of their popularity, but like that’s what I was reasoning/talking about. Like I was mainly focused on why there’s that gulf in number (and also popularity), and part of that is the way each character was treated (because of sales and how Nintendo viewed Mario as a mascot vs Link not being a mascot). Like part of Mario’s popularity was built through the focus on spin-offs very early on (in addition to an incredibly successful and popular first game on the NES). I mean the Mario sports games are still Mario spin-offs and then also there’s Mario+Rabbids Kingdom Battle which is new to switch, but then do we also not have to count the Yoshi, Wario, etc games that are on switch, they’re undeniably Mario spin-offs. And Mario Kart hasn’t had a mainline game on console since 2014, but it’s had a mobile game (call it mainline or spin-off whatever) and the Mario Kart Live thing, like the Mario spin-off is getting spin-offs.

I agree that LoZ has gotten a good number spin-offs recently probably the most in it’s history and will probably continue to get some on a similar level as to what Warriors and Cadence are. I think we are both has a different focus/specific point in what is being discussed. I don’t know maybe I’m just confused. But I think we agree that Mario is very popular and gets lots of spin-offs and Zelda is less popular but still gets spin-offs just not in the same number and not in the same way.

I think that Animal Crossing has potential to get spin-offs in a similar way to Mario does, but that kind of comes down to how Nintendo wants to approach the future of the series and like what could an Animal Crossing spin-off do that isn’t already Mario-ized. Like do we need an Animal Crossing board-based party game if we already have Mario Party? There’s definitely potential I think with the series and it’s characters and lots of games that could probably be made, but will it be worth the investment from Nintendo/what they want for the “Brand” of the series. Maybe, especially considering how success has only been building from the DS game to th New Leaf to Pocket Camp/New Horizons. But that’s a whole other point

 

[Psyborg]

*eyeballs the XB3 postgame discussion thread*
But would it, though?

I'm only on chapter 5 so far. I'm guessing that's halfway through? So I'll know what you mean in another 50 or so hours of game time.

 

[Spyder]

It would be dishonest and irresponsible if I backed a rumor that I don't have sources for. My sources aren't aware of every project that Nintendo makes. I can easily believe that a Donkey Kong game is coming, but I just don't want to slap my name on every rumor that gets reported. Does that make sense?

For what it's worth, Zippo has recently said stuff that makes me believe he might have good sources. I won't vouch for everything Zippo says, but I wish people didn't badmouth him so much on this site. Unlike Samushunter, I believe Zippo has good intentions, and I wish he posted here on Famiboards.

Idk about any of this lol

 

[YoboD]

I am now desperately hoping for a leak for a new Rhythm Heaven game from Nate or Emily.

Heck, I’ll take one of those shoddy obviously fake 4 Chan leaks saying it at this point, I just want to believe.

 

[Mr_No_U]

If F-Zero is in the Direct I’ll delete ya’lls accounts

 

[Skittzo]

If Might and Magic is in the Direct I'll chop off my foot.





I mean not really but I'm that confident

 

[Magic-Man]

Grubb is live now!

 

[Beelzemontheworld]

I'm only on chapter 5 so far. I'm guessing that's halfway through? So I'll know what you mean in another 50 or so hours of game time.

Physically blocking your spoiler with my hand because I’m scared we’re veering into stuff beyond the obvious set up XC3 but I’ve got to finish this game so I can engage with this discussion

 

[MisterSpo]

If in in the Direct I'll scream "Help! I'm in the Direct! WAH!"

 

[Edengamer23]

Give me Nintendo Direct, it will make the work week better

 

[9-Volt]

If Might and Magic is in the Direct I'll chop off my foot.





I mean not really but I'm that confident

As a GBC NSO release perhaps? Ubisoft hasn't released anything on NSO but honestly they became a thing in the late 90s. They don't have many GBC games, Heroes I and II should be the ones from them.

 

[Barely Able]

Everyone can badmouth me if it means this F zero game exists! I’ll gladly accept it while I am launching the blue falcon off the track and into the unsuspecting populace below.

 

[ZephyrPhoenix]

I need the direct to come soon so I can ease my mind off of university shenanigans.

 

[RealUncleNintendo]

If F-Zero is in the Direct I’ll delete ya’lls accounts

 

[tee]

I need the direct to come soon so I can ease my mind off of university shenanigans.

Assuming you're American

 

[hk-rara]

The Legend of Zelda: Guitar of Liberty

 

[Vash]

If f-zero is at the direct then I will quietly continue on with my day

 

[ZephyrPhoenix]

Assuming you're American

Too bad I hate peanut butter. And Jelly lul.

 

[Kevin360]

What's the Grubb saying?

 

[switchum]

She found a way to reach back out to me.

Sorry to keep bothering you all with this.

We’re now talking again. She’s mad I blocked her. It’s super awkward.

Ughhhhhhhhh

For anyone who cares for an update:

She’s guilt-tripped me so much that I almost unblocked her. I spoke to a loved one, who knows what it’s like to be manipulated and deceived, and she warned me to be careful of this girl.

You all helped me come to my decision too. Thanks for that.

I’m going to block her again. This time, EVERYWHERE.

I thought I needed her in my life. But from now on, I need to prioritize myself. No matter what she’s trying to spin this into.

 

[Emily]

Idk if you know anything about this, but could this be the reason something like Octopath Traveler then later gets ported to Steam and then some time after that Xbox through Gamepass, but never PlayStation? Or is that more likely Square's own doing?

I don't know the specific details about Square-Nintendo's arrangement. I can only confirm that Nintendo definitely provides financial support (or at least partial funding) for many of Square's games. Your observation about the lack of a PlayStation port is interesting though!

The nice thing about these 2D-HD games is they don't require a super large budget to produce. So, the financial risk is very minimal for both Nintendo and Square. Throwing financial support behind these 2D-HD games is a smart move by Nintendo. It helps build the perception of Switch being a strong RPG system.

 

[Red Monster]

For anyone who cares for an update:

She’s guilt-tripped me so much that I almost unblocked her. I spoke to a loved one, who knows what it’s like to be manipulated and deceived, and she warned me to be careful of this girl.

You all helped me come to my decision too. Thanks for that.

I’m going to block her again. This time, EVERYWHERE.

I thought I needed her in my life. But from now on, I need to prioritize myself. No matter what she’s trying to spin this into.

Well done Switchum. You are absolutely right that you need to prioritize yourself.

 

[Awesomegames23]

What's the Grubb saying?

I watched some of it, he and Mike were just answering questions. I didn’t hear anything about the Direct in the time that I watched it.

 

[zumaddy]

A week before Direct-mas?

 

[SirArthur]

Ill post it here since its active:

Is the physical copy of Trails of Zero on amazon real? The reason is the box art is "pending" so I dont know if I should wait till release but this might have a small print.

 

[switchum]

Well done Switchum. You are absolutely right that you need to prioritize yourself.

thank you… I’ve hated myself for much too long, and I can start to see things turn around

 

[Barely Able]

Ill post it here since its active:

Is the physical copy of Trails of Zero on amazon real? The reason is the box art is "pending" so I dont know if I should wait till release but this might have a small print.

I would say get it, but AI Somnium files got a big print run it seems and now it’s on sale. I know Spike vs NIS, but these switch releases seem to be getting larger print runs now.

 

[GamedadJP]

I don't know the specific details about Square-Nintendo's arrangement. I can only confirm that Nintendo definitely provides financial support (or at least partial funding) for many of Square's games. Your observation about the lack of a PlayStation port is interesting though!

The nice thing about these 2D-HD games is they don't require a super large budget to produce. So, the financial risk is very minimal for both Nintendo and Square. Throwing financial support behind these 2D-HD games is a smart move by Nintendo. It helps build the perception of Switch being a strong RPG system.

Know what would make it an even stronger RPG system?

 

[quelseydilla]

Know what would make it an even stronger RPG system?

I'm sitting here crossing my fingers that the reason we don't have Chrono Trigger on Switch or modern consoles yet (except PC) is that they're working on an HD-2D version

 

[DrDave]

Obligatory Walmart Canada tweet prior to the rumored upcoming Direct:

 

[Magic-Man]

Obligatory Walmart Canada tweet prior to the rumored upcoming Direct:

In a week Walmart Canada

 

[NateDrake]

Idk if you know anything about this, but could this be the reason something like Octopath Traveler then later gets ported to Steam and then some time after that Xbox through Gamepass, but never PlayStation? Or is that more likely Square's own doing?

MS paid for the Octopath port to Xbox.

 

[Hoagmaster]

Does this mean no mention of Chris-san??

 

[NabiscoFelt]

This. Just look at Arcane/League of Legends. That's the standard for sci-fi fantasy.

Maybe I have a stricter definition of sci-fi than most but there's nothing in Arcane or even the wider League universe that I'd count as it. Arcane's a fairly standard (but very well implemented) magitech/steampunk setting which isn't really what I'd consider sci-fi. And that sort of thing is already in BoTW with the Sheikah tech

 

[Barely Able]

Does this mean no mention of Chris-san??

Let me ask Chris since apparently he is my wife’s distant cousin (none of us have ever
met him but we grew up a few miles away from each other).

On serious note, a Christmas release time is probably best for this movie since that is a huge moviegoing day.