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Lol I only need to type in 'nintendo direct speculation' into google and the Famiboards Speculation thread is the second entry.
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Just realised I posted this in the wrong thread, I swear I'll figure out this site before I'm dead, but I can't promise it'll happen any sooner than that.
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Don't worry. I didn't even realize until just now that you posted this not in the speculation thread.
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Lol I wouldn’t hold you to that. Buy yourself a nice meal for launch dayI hope @Polygon is slightly wrong about one thing because if they're right I have to buy them a copy of BotW2
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I hope this is all revealed in January and Nintendo can essentially relaunch the Switch with not just improved hardware but a slew of new software to better show off the newer hardware.
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Just imagine a nintendo switch 4k presentation on january with:
- New Mario 3D
- Metroid Prime 4
- Zelda BOTW2
- RDR2
- Metro Exodus
- Octopath Traveler 2 or some other S-E exclusive
- Exclusive RE + VII/Village/2R/3R ports
- Various other multi third party titles nintendo got some exclusive rights to show first.
- Final bomb: Half Life 3
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I expect 2 of those
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re7 appreciation time. The game starts mid and ends with a blow man. Some of the bosses are really really bad as if capcom had no idea of how a fp game works but it picks up and it gets amazing.
Also holy shit i am so in love with the game's aesthetics. ''Go tell aunt rhody'' love it muah
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There's already a solution in the form of trigger locks, but that feature is locked (heh) behind expensive premium controllers. Would it be worth it for Nintendo? Who knows.
Mario Kart is unlikely to complicate its control scheme with analog acceleration, while GTA has yet to come to Nintendo hardware in a meaningful capacity. So we're adding a feature for one potential game somewhere down the line? I'm exaggerating a bit, but Nintendo platforms already don't get the kind of racers that rely on analog acceleration (and there aren't that many in the first place).
The digital shoulder buttons being there don't change anything because actions (that do not benefit or are worse on analog) will still be mapped to the analog triggers.
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Capcom is positively salivating at the mere thought of re-releasing re-released RE games on the next Switch.
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This may be premature of me, but this may raise validity to this post with respect to the PS5 Slim. Not sure about the others though.
Granted, predicting a die shrink and what it would be isn’t difficult for the unknown. It was either 6nm or 5nm by this time.
but just raising a curiosity nothing more.
Reason I bring it up is this it seems:
The New PS5 Model Has Arrived In Australia First Again And Here's The First Details
The New PS5 Model Has Arrived In Australia First Again And Here's The First Details
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Not the first unveiling of course. If it's coming out with Breath of the wild 2 in March/April like Switch in 2017, I'd expect no later than end of October for the reveal.
Shouldn't impact software game sales much if at wlll. Scarlett and Violet come out on November 18, but almost all the Pokemon fans will want to grab that one ASAP instead of waiting an extra 3-4 months. And Nitnendo could guarantee software transfer as well as 4k support to early adopters.
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This may be premature of me, but this may raise validity to this post with respect to the PS5 Slim. Not sure about the others though.
Granted, predicting a die shrink and what it would be isn’t difficult for the unknown. It was either 6nm or 5nm by this time.
but just raising a curiosity nothing more.
Reason I bring it up is this it seems:
The New PS5 Model Has Arrived In Australia First Again And Here's The First Details
The New PS5 Model Has Arrived In Australia First Again And Here's The First Details
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Definitely a PS5 slim revision. The one coming out in Australia is like 1lb lighter than the very original. 5nm node perhaps? Wll be interesting to see the reduced power draw. Could help further justify the price increase for Sony outside the states...
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Rumours from DigiTimes and the poster mentioned by fffr48 and fwd_bwd mention TSMC's N6 process node is being used.
I'd argue that TSMC's N5 process node could theoretically allow Sony to die shrink the PlayStation 5's APU to a significantly smaller size, allowing Sony to significantly shrink the console.
But that's not happening with the new PlayStation 5 models releasing in Australia.
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They've never had anything like the Switch before, a hybrid where a large increase in power with BC is possible and the whole idea behind 'generations" in the industry has completely changed. What happened in the past does not dictate what happens in the future.
We also do not know if It'll be released in the next 6 months, IMO there is far too much we do not know to have any confidence in predicting how it will be marketed.
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I think the PS5 triggers are utterly fantastic, the analogue functionality, the variable resistance, the vibration hugely improve gameplay and as much as I like the Switch Pro Controller, the triggers feel like something from the dark ages in comparison.
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I prefer if there were analog, that we can adjust it (even if slightly) how much resistance we would want in them.
Loose- traditional analog
Medium- adjusted midway
Tight- adjusted to max.
Only three settings.
But that’s something else not related to this thread.
Loose- traditional analog
Medium- adjusted midway
Tight- adjusted to max.
Only three settings.
But that’s something else not related to this thread.
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You’d have to imagine a September reveal if they want it out Oct-Mar. Like has been mentioned if they unveiled it in January then it would piss off a lot of people who bought a Switch for Christmas. If it isn’t September then I could see it being unveiled in March for a May release.
March-May is the strong favourite just because I think it will launch with BotW2 and the most recent update for that game was for a spring 2023 release.
March-May is the strong favourite just because I think it will launch with BotW2 and the most recent update for that game was for a spring 2023 release.
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I also expecting this will be basically what Sony done with PS4 and PS5, same environment, same tech (AMD), still huge majority of cross gen games,
with only difference that Sony stop selling PS4 (and they definitely regret that when they had PS5 stock and productions problems) while Nintendo will keep selling for some time current Switch units alongside with next gen Switch.
So we basically talking about Switch 2.
Saying that, I again expecting some new smaller "gimmick/s", Nintendo usually loves to offer something new (they done that even with New 3DS, with more stable 3D and second analog) and not be point only about stronger hardware, but also something new and some other improvments.
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They rather piss off people who bought a Switch over the holidays than having a half a year slump for their sales. I think Furukawa also mentioned they might already face lowered interest in the system when he was asked about their fiscal year goals recently. If that's the case they sure don't want another reason for sales slowing down.
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Just a sequel would be amazing. Legit my favorite Wii U game.
Simba1
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I really dont see how they would showing middle finger to holiday Switch buyers, if they announcing more expensive Switch at later date.
Switch is still selling great, highly unlikely they will want that this years reveal effects holiday season sales, if this new Switch is not launching this year.
OG Switch reveal and release date was different, Wii U was dead at that time so it couldnt effect holiday season sales.
Reveal in January-February and release in March-May has most sense from business standpoint.
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Sales will be lower over Christmas but the new hardware will also mean they’ll be much much higher during periods when they’d usually be lower.
They’ve got a decent line up of games over Christmas so I don’t think the drop off would be too dramatic.
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Plus most of people who would be interested in Switch 2 would delay their initial holiday buy for a more expensive product later.
It's really not impossible for Nintendo to announce it this year for a Spring 2023 release; it actually makes sense for many reasons already listed here.
It's really not impossible for Nintendo to announce it this year for a Spring 2023 release; it actually makes sense for many reasons already listed here.
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That's not how companies work though. They want as much $$$ during the holidays (especially with the new Pokemon games on top) and they then want as much $$$ when launching Drake.
They will gamble that the people who got a Switch during holiday sales not being the initial main target audience for Drake, which will be people like us and tech enthusiasts who like having their shiny new toys, and they're likely going to be right about this and the gamble will pay off.
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If you’re buying a platform like the switch that is this old at this point in time, you’re a different type of consumer demographic that is more of the beneficiary to the platform for Nintendo rather than the main driver of sales which is the earlier adopters of the platform. Some of this is like complaining that Sony would release the PlayStation5 that is $500, in the United States, when the PlayStation 4 pro is $400. Meanwhile the PlayStation 4 pro is a four year old device at that point (2020) and of you bought a PS4Pro when the PS5 was already soon to be released.
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I don’t know if it’s just me, but if you’re buying an old device that is pretty old well after a ton of the success of the device has already been reached and it is in the decline phase, if you’re buying the device in that phase of decline you’re not really the main demographic you’re more of a beneficiary demographic that adds to the tail end of the platform success but it’s not the main driver of the sales for the platform.
You are the type of person that takes advantage of the many software and hardware sales that makes it easy for you to invest into that platform, and helps you make better decisions on if it’s something you should invest more on earlier or later for your next purchase, if the platform was right for you or not.
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I don’t know if it’s just me, but if you’re buying an old device that is pretty old well after a ton of the success of the device has already been reached and it is in the decline phase, if you’re buying the device in that phase of decline you’re not really the main demographic you’re more of a beneficiary demographic that adds to the tail end of the platform success but it’s not the main driver of the sales for the platform.
You are the type of person that takes advantage of the many software and hardware sales that makes it easy for you to invest into that platform, and helps you make better decisions on if it’s something you should invest more on earlier or later for your next purchase, if the platform was right for you or not.
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Simba1
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Sales are strong on launch of new hardware in any case, not to mention that there will be probably quite a stock issues for new Switch and that will most likely be sold out not only at launch but least 1st hole year.
I would said that announcement of new Switch before holiday season, could effect around 50% of sales during holiday season and that's huge number,
especially for Nintendo because their holiday season quarter sales are comparable with 3 previous quarters combined.
I mean we talking about company that doesn't do even holiday Directs for games that would be released after that holiday because it would effect on available or launching holiday games sales.
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I'm going to throw another idea into the ring regarding a 2022 reveal with a 2023 release.
There are plenty of good points above about the demographics buying a switch this late in its life cycle. So I won't touch on that.
So, where does Nintendo consistently earn money from its entire user base? Software.
The early adopters, enthusiasts and all those likely to buy a new switch when it's revealed. What would a reveal do to your switch software buying habits?
Personally, in the excitement I'm probably going to buy even more software in preparation for when it launches. Especially if I know its going to be enhanced on the new model. If I see some games announced as exclusive to Drake in the trailer like RE Village, or the RE remakes, I'll probably hold off on doing a second PC play through and wait to buy those on the platform too.
For new releases that may be coming out later this year on other platforms that now are suddenly coming to Drake in March. I may be happy to wait a couple months to get the benefit of portable play.
There are a lot of benefits to announcing this year if it's done right. Could cause a surge in software sales over the holidays and give people a reason to wait to pick up software on Nintendos new platform.
Personally I'm 50/50 on when it's going to be announced. Both 2022 and 2023 are possible in my mind regardless if its a March or May launch.
There are plenty of good points above about the demographics buying a switch this late in its life cycle. So I won't touch on that.
So, where does Nintendo consistently earn money from its entire user base? Software.
The early adopters, enthusiasts and all those likely to buy a new switch when it's revealed. What would a reveal do to your switch software buying habits?
Personally, in the excitement I'm probably going to buy even more software in preparation for when it launches. Especially if I know its going to be enhanced on the new model. If I see some games announced as exclusive to Drake in the trailer like RE Village, or the RE remakes, I'll probably hold off on doing a second PC play through and wait to buy those on the platform too.
For new releases that may be coming out later this year on other platforms that now are suddenly coming to Drake in March. I may be happy to wait a couple months to get the benefit of portable play.
There are a lot of benefits to announcing this year if it's done right. Could cause a surge in software sales over the holidays and give people a reason to wait to pick up software on Nintendos new platform.
Personally I'm 50/50 on when it's going to be announced. Both 2022 and 2023 are possible in my mind regardless if its a March or May launch.
Simba1
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Well quite big of chunk of money comes also from hardware (Nintendo makes profit on every sold unit of hardware).
Also big portion of software sales comes from new Switch owners, there is reason why still games like MK8D, Zelda BotW, Smash Bros, Animal Crossing...are still selling so great every quarter and especially during holiday season, because they are must have games for every new owner.
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I agree, but I believe a high proportion of those buying a switch six years after release won't be put off by a more expensive model releasing soon. So a good chunk of those sales will remain whilst also reinvigorating the existing user base interest in the platform.
I think there are pros and cons to revealing early. What it comes down to is Nintendo prepared to lose some proportion of its holiday hardware sales to focus on the new platform. If this is the case they may have already factored this effect into its predicted hardware sales.
We won't have to wait long to find out.
Z0m3le
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Graffitimax, a chinese forum owner/mod, who leaked Switch Lite's back plate, said that the back of the new Drake model, has the same Switch logo as all the current models, indicating that it is the same exact branding/platform. It is using a separate API (NVN2), so very likely they will introduce it like a XB1X but after ~2 years, they will shift marketing more into XBSeries type of device... meaning while the cross gen Switch period happens, Drake will be a premium model, a Pro/New 3DS style upgrade, but after this period, they will introduce major first party games as exclusive to this version of the Switch.
Currently we are discussing the major rumors that have panned out by legit leaks such as the Nvidia leak, which proved that T239 from Kopite7's twitter post from a year prior, did in fact exist. and It also shows that it's been in the works since Nikkei reported that Nintendo dropped the pro and started work on a next generation model, way back in April 2019... Lastly, Nate and Bloomberg have heard that exclusive Drake titles are in the works right now and that the release window for them is sometime before the end of Spring next year.
Lastly for 2 or 3 years now, a Switch pro has been heavily rumored to launch with Zelda, every single time I've been told anything about the release of the device, Zelda was mentioned along side it, the only time that changed was this year with Zelda's delay to Spring 2023, people just didn't know if Drake was delayed along with it or not, as the launch for Drake has loosely been end of this year, early next year.
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You are mentioning things from a specific perspective. The vast majority of people will take the piss because their recent purchase will be obsolete within months. @ShadowFox08 resumed the situation in his post well.
If the successor launches betwen Jan and Mar 23, then the awareness campaign will start before the end of this year, guaranteed.
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It won't be obsolete, at least in Nintendo game terms. Or do you really believe Nintendo leaves a 110+ million userbase behind and only releases Drake exclusives?
Expect at least 1.5 years (maybe even more) of "cross-gen" releases from them. You get the games on vanilla Switch, you just won't get the best performance on it.
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Its point about holiday marketing, Nintendo doesnt want to be talked during holiday season about console that will be launched at least around 3 months after that holiday season (no one expecting launch before March earlies if we talking about next years launch), during holiday season they want to selling current hardware and current and holiday software that still selling strong.
Personally, I would be very surprised if announcement is this year.
I talking about business perspective, some people saying "wish I know new stronger, more expansive model is launching months after I bought Switch" wouldn't effect Nintendo business standpoint.
And no, stronger and more expansive hardware that is launching months after holiday season, doesnt make holiday buyers purchase obsolete or any other Switch hardware that was bought earlier.
There is no way that launch will be before March (if we talking about next years launch), so its March or later, and Nintendo could easily start campaign in January and launch console in March.
My bet is on launch in March or May, if we really talking about 1H launch of 2023.
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Not sure but I remember the mod has nothing to do with the backplates mess and even less sure anyone has seen a drake part.
Aether
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It...kinda looks soft? it looks great, but also strangely soft compared to PS4 pro uploads. Maybe its just his recording/encoding.
and what if they anounce a) the price of the pro and b) a reduced price for the base?
and mention something like: all nintendo releases will be backwards compatible in the first 2 years
there will be a huge demographics (children, financially weaker households,...) that would be interested,
and it would play into the "multiple switch per household" strategy.
Just saying. As it stands, with generations being kinda bust, the way this will have to be backwards compatible to a higher degree then ever (and will be able to),
i feel like this could work just as well.
On the other hand, they could really go the rout of smartphones and anounce it a month or 2 weeks before release, as apple and samsung do things...
Despite being more powerful than the Pro, and theoretically, the One X, the Series S is limited in resolution compared to them
Aether
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Yeah, but is look ssofter then 1440p. Usually im more int he camp "4k is not worth it compared to 1440"... but with such a slow textured game as RE is, maybe it makes a way bigger difference.
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Also resident evil 7 is kind of a soft looking game to begin with. It’s the style they went for.
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That would again effect holiday season sales, point is that there is no real need to announcing it before holiday season instead for instance in January.
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Graffitimax vetted the back plate info for the Switch lite, I recently looked up the old DM messages I had with someone and there was links to an article about it.
He or possibly the Splatoon 3 Switch model leaker (known as Factory uncle or Funcle) had said that info about the Drake model's back plate specifically, that the body of the device isn't much different from the OLED model and that the logo was the same. Thing is, I think they have both seen the back plate, this was around the time Funcle Speculated the model would be revealed in September.
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and then you have those arguing that anouncing it in Jannuary, right after people got their new consoles for christmas would lead to a backlash / customer dissatistaction.
Its simple, there is no right moment to anounce it. well, there is: march - July. Far away that it can release for next holiday season, but not to close to christmas that people have buyers remourse.
But nobody wants to believe that its next FY that we will hear something new.
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