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I would recommend an ongoing/seasonal general speculation thread.

When really big things pop up, they could get their own additional thread. But maybe new threads should be deemed necessary by the consensus of the general speculation thread.
 
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Raccoon said:
From my perspective there are two avenues of discussion to be accommodated: first, the various announcements that will presumably be shared via Twitter through to September; and second, whatever event occupies the Tokyo Game Show "slot." Note that this isn't necessarily a general Direct; I think that the new form of Partner Showcase would fill that role quite nicely.

Regardless of what form the September event takes, I personally feel quite strongly that they are two separate discussions. To change this thread now ends the former conversation and starts the latter, and frankly I don't entirely agree with either effect. We are still anticipating and actively waiting for Mario Kart DLC, Pokémon, and Splatoon 3 announcements, and I for one expect them to come via Twitter.

Now, if we were to close this thread entirely on the basis of Twitter speculation being the absolute worst, I wouldn't be opposed to that. However, I think that the timing I envisioned for the Direct threads on Famiboards still holds some value: fostering speculation for a September Direct now would be a huge mistake. Unless the staff knows something I don't (hint hint, staff, DM me your clout info) there is nothing to say about September yet at all. I know that Tweets are boring, but they're what we've got. I feel that if people want to hype them they ought to be allowed to do so, rather than directed to a topic with absolutely zero information yet.

Like seriously, what does September Direct speculation even look like right now? There's no info, there won't be any info any time soon, and the entire debate would just be the three major camps (nothing, Partner, general) fighting with nothing to back it up.

...actually that sounds kind of fun.

Anyway, everything above is just my two cents. I would be happy to bend to the desire of the community as gracefully as my temperament allows. However, I do think that renaming this thread would be a mistake. This was a very special thread that took place during an absolutely hilarious time, and I'd rather it be closed as a time capsule than have its purpose reworked.
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i feel like there's some confusion here. you shouldn't conflate this survey with the DM i sent you about the thread title. there's really not any issue about the title of the thread, i just made a suggestion to you about changing the thread's title back to "nintendo direct speculation" to make it more uniform with the previous two threads, and as i can see that's not something you want, which is completely fine. the survey is more about the speculation threads in general and is not about the specific title. hopefully i've explained myself well, but this isn't really about the thread's title, nor is anyone looking to change the thread's purpose, whatever it is.
 
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Raccoon said:
This was a very special thread that took place during an absolutely hilarious time, and I'd rather it be closed as a time capsule than have its purpose reworked.
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Very long years later. Grandad, can you please tell me something about the hillarious June 2022 without Nintendo Direct? Oh, you little boy, be prepared because this will be quite the long conversation with huge memory back trip. Let me open Famiboards and we will read every single fucking post in that thread, take your seat the fun is about to begin.
 
hologram said:
Hi folks, we'd like to survey the community a little to get a sense of what people want for this thread, and for the Speculation threads more broadly.

At this point, it seems fairly unlikely that there will be any event in July. This was always a distinct possibility, and at the time this thread was made the contingency plan was to simply convert this thread to the Fall Direct Speculation thread at the start of August.

The rationale behind this plan:
  • this way will stick closest to the original seasonal schedule of these threads (with the Fall one just starting, uh, very early)
  • people enjoy these threads, even if there isn't much to speculate about

Some potential counterpoints to this plan:
  • people are starting to feel a little fatigue from the constant speculation
  • the line between this thread and the General thread is increasingly unclear
  • this thread tends to be more cliquey and can be off-putting to newcomers

So, with this in mind, here are a few proposals for how to handle this thread (and Speculation threads in general) moving forward:
1. Continue with the current plan as outlined above
2. Leave this thread open, and allow these threads to exist more permanently with less formally defined rules
3. Close this thread, and open a new one mid-August
4. Close this thread, and retire these threads for a little while

We are of course open to any and all alternative suggestions. Thanks!

-Aurc, Donnie, hologram, mazi
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Option 1 for now, with option 2 being considered as a combination of both Event and Tweet Speculation.

I feel the current thread rebrand as Tweet Speculation is more accurate for the time we are currently in as events will resume next month. A Splatoon Direct and Indie World are expected, while something for Pokemon and even a general direct are also possible. There’s a great sense of community in counting down and speculating for the first tweet of the day and getting hyped about the future. It’s something special and never felt fully appropriate for the more casual general discussion thread which I also love (I’m really excited to put together the September General Discussion ST!).

I really think why we are seeing such a profound split between activity is that there has been a lull in games for Nintendo that appeal to the greater board. I’d argue Kirby and the Forgotten Land was the last big game with broad board appeal. Some of the more hardcore games tend to have discussion in their own communities. Xenoblade seems likely to have the biggest ST on the site thus far for example though I do think it will bubble well into the general discussion too.

Something else to really consider here which explains the exceptionally high post count, the start of this particular thread was very unnatural and saw 100 pages in roughly two days. It came off the heels of the Partner Direct which while well received, was also still a crushing disappointment for many. There was a lot restless energy that could go somewhere and the OP and a few key members for better or worse aggressively encouraged and fed a hysteria around new hardware that never materialized when this thread had a very unclear framing. A good chunk of people, myself included, just saw this as a direct continuation of the last thread, while I think Raccoon and others saw it very differently. It was both a special moment for the board I think a lot of us will fondly look back on while it did burn and frustrate more out.

Regardless, I think this thread has found its footing. This week is more representative of what it will look like moving forward and I think people are generally more happy and at peace. I said in a prior post, I don’t think either this thread or the general discussion thread have to be active and/or on topic to be valuable. They both have different vibes that serve different needs and people can post in both as the mood strikes. As the board continues to grow in size I think this perceived issue will also really sort itself out as all threads will pick up new members and see more positive activity. For example the Mario Kart ST recently picked up a few new members and we’ve seen a relative burst in activity which has been awesome! Finally, I think with better framing from the start I think these threads will be more comfortable in the future. I think these threads can’t heavily cater or be biased to one group (in this threads case hardware early on), it should be focused on both events and tweets going forward and members and the OP should have open minds. Raccoon openly stated many times he was playing a character early on, but I don’t think everyone who entered the thread was always aware of that and I don’t think that that should have been something they should be expected to be aware of either considering the thread title set expectations of being a direct follow up to the prior two threads (it was called Speculate Chronicles 3 before the current title change). Anyway, this thread now resembles the prior two threads and has been all the better for it.

Finally I just want to add @Raccoon I know this post was a bit critical of this thread and how it played out, but it’s overall been a lot of fun and I genuinely enjoy your posts and contributions here and I enjoy our discussions and replies here :)
 
mazi said:
i feel like there's some confusion here. you shouldn't conflate this survey with the DM i sent you about the thread title. there's really not any issue about the title of the thread, i just made a suggestion to you about changing the thread's title back to "nintendo direct speculation" to make it more uniform with the previous two threads, and as i can see that's not something you want, which is completely fine. the survey is more about the speculation threads in general and is not about the specific title. hopefully i've explained myself well, but this isn't really about the thread's title, nor is anyone looking to change the thread's purpose, whatever it is.
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Ah, my mistake. I think my thoughts on the matter still stand, but I only share them as a member of the community.
 
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BobNintendofan said:
Agree with raccoon there is literally no evidence for a September direct, it just might happen because it's happened before, but there is no reason to get peoples hopes up with a speculation thread based on nothing.
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I do not want to speak for Raccoon but I almost certain that is not what he was saying
 
There should just be a Nintendo direct speculation thread year round

Trying to time it based on patterns and have separate threads per potential direct seemed like a good idea until Nintendo broke the pattern with the second one lol

This seems like overcomplicating something we already figured out on ERA years ago.

If there’s no speculation, then the thread will die naturally, if there’s buzz, it’ll pick back up. No big deal
 
BobNintendofan said:
Agree with raccoon there is literally no evidence for a September direct, it just might happen because it's happened before, but there is no reason to get peoples hopes up with a speculation thread based on nothing.
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I mean... we're still more than a month away from September, of course there wouldn't be any evidence lol. Insiders probably aren't privy to the existence of one yet.
 
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Phendrift said:
There should just be a Nintendo direct speculation thread year round
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this was my idea tbh as well tbh. this could just be an ongoing, fast paced speculation thread. unlike back on era, we don't even have to limit it to 400 pages or whatever, it can go on for as long as it wants.

the issue is that this thread became more than just speculation and for many people it seems to have replaced the general discussion thread. sadly this months thread had far less activity than previous months, because people just post whatever they did in there in previous months here now.

tho that's just me speaking as one member of the community. maybe to others it doesn't really matter if the thread is replacing the other one.
 
haha maybe people do want to start talking about september after all

also food for thought:

  • Mario Kart DLC has a thread
  • Pokémon has a few threads
  • Splatoon 3 has a thread
 
Raccoon said:
haha maybe people do want to start talking about september after all

also food for thought:

  • Mario Kart DLC has a thread
  • Pokémon has a few threads
  • Splatoon 3 has a thread
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My issue with the Pokemon thread is that there are leaks so I have to ignore it :(
 
hologram said:
Hi folks, we'd like to survey the community a little to get a sense of what people want for this thread, and for the Speculation threads more broadly.

At this point, it seems fairly unlikely that there will be any event in July. This was always a distinct possibility, and at the time this thread was made the contingency plan was to simply convert this thread to the Fall Direct Speculation thread at the start of August.

The rationale behind this plan:
  • this way will stick closest to the original seasonal schedule of these threads (with the Fall one just starting, uh, very early)
  • people enjoy these threads, even if there isn't much to speculate about

Some potential counterpoints to this plan:
  • people are starting to feel a little fatigue from the constant speculation
  • the line between this thread and the General thread is increasingly unclear
  • this thread tends to be more cliquey and can be off-putting to newcomers

So, with this in mind, here are a few proposals for how to handle this thread (and Speculation threads in general) moving forward:
1. Continue with the current plan as outlined above
2. Leave this thread open, and allow these threads to exist more permanently with less formally defined rules
3. Close this thread, and open a new one mid-August
4. Close this thread, and retire these threads for a little while

We are of course open to any and all alternative suggestions. Thanks!

-Aurc, Donnie, hologram, mazi
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I choose option 4 that we should close this thread and let the topic rest a while until we begin to get solid hints from our insiders that something could potentially be coming in the near future. My only worry is people burning themselves out on speculation and becoming antagonistic towards others.
 
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mazi said:
this was my idea tbh as well tbh. this could just be an ongoing, fast paced speculation thread. unlike back on era, we don't even have to limit it to 400 pages or whatever, it can go on for as long as it wants.

the issue is that this thread became more than just speculation and for many people it seems to have replaced the general discussion thread. sadly this months thread had far less activity than previous months, because people just post whatever they did in there in previous months here now.

tho that's just me speaking as one member of the community. maybe to others it doesn't really matter if the thread is replacing the other one.
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This thread did take some shitposting that lots of the general had. But I still feel like that thread functions as a community hub where people can talk about whatever, even if this thread kinda pulls some engagement away from it
 
Maybe the thread could be turned into "Nintendo's future plans speculation"
Instead of speculating primarily about upcoming announcements we have no indication are happening, it would foster discussion of any upcoming Nintendo software/hardware/announcements. I feel like that makes more sense in the current environment.
 
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This might just come down to personal preference, but I feel like supporters of a year-round thread are forgetting how miserable that was. I'd even argue that Nintendo casually skipping a summer Direct only supports the idea of seasonal hype.
 
hologram said:
Hi folks, we'd like to survey the community a little to get a sense of what people want for this thread, and for the Speculation threads more broadly.

At this point, it seems fairly unlikely that there will be any event in July. This was always a distinct possibility, and at the time this thread was made the contingency plan was to simply convert this thread to the Fall Direct Speculation thread at the start of August.

The rationale behind this plan:
  • this way will stick closest to the original seasonal schedule of these threads (with the Fall one just starting, uh, very early)
  • people enjoy these threads, even if there isn't much to speculate about

Some potential counterpoints to this plan:
  • people are starting to feel a little fatigue from the constant speculation
  • the line between this thread and the General thread is increasingly unclear
  • this thread tends to be more cliquey and can be off-putting to newcomers

So, with this in mind, here are a few proposals for how to handle this thread (and Speculation threads in general) moving forward:
1. Continue with the current plan as outlined above
2. Leave this thread open, and allow these threads to exist more permanently with less formally defined rules
3. Close this thread, and open a new one mid-August
4. Close this thread, and retire these threads for a little while

We are of course open to any and all alternative suggestions. Thanks!

-Aurc, Donnie, hologram, mazi
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I like option 3.
 
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Blue Monty said:
My issue with the Pokemon thread is that there are leaks so I have to ignore it :(
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we have a regular pre-release thread for sv but sadly it's not very active these days

famiboards.com

Pokémon Scarlet and Violet — Pre-release Discussion Thread (UPDATE: new trailer, see threadmarks)

given how intertwined gym progression was to story progression (arbitrarily, I might add), that's why we think that the text also means gyms can be done in any order. but due to the lack of specifics (like if there's even gyms), I posit that it could just mean that gyms and the story are...
famiboards.com famiboards.com
 
the future direct leaking because the film industry isn't as secretive as the video game industry would be hilarious to me
 
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hologram said:
Hi folks, we'd like to survey the community a little to get a sense of what people want for this thread, and for the Speculation threads more broadly.

At this point, it seems fairly unlikely that there will be any event in July. This was always a distinct possibility, and at the time this thread was made the contingency plan was to simply convert this thread to the Fall Direct Speculation thread at the start of August.

The rationale behind this plan:
  • this way will stick closest to the original seasonal schedule of these threads (with the Fall one just starting, uh, very early)
  • people enjoy these threads, even if there isn't much to speculate about

Some potential counterpoints to this plan:
  • people are starting to feel a little fatigue from the constant speculation
  • the line between this thread and the General thread is increasingly unclear
  • this thread tends to be more cliquey and can be off-putting to newcomers

So, with this in mind, here are a few proposals for how to handle this thread (and Speculation threads in general) moving forward:
1. Continue with the current plan as outlined above
2. Leave this thread open, and allow these threads to exist more permanently with less formally defined rules
3. Close this thread, and open a new one mid-August
4. Close this thread, and retire these threads for a little while

We are of course open to any and all alternative suggestions. Thanks!

-Aurc, Donnie, hologram, mazi
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I’m been options 3 and 4.

Obviously people like the speculation threads so giving it a break is nice because we’re at a point where everyone’s posting any random twitter user. There’s use in speculation if certain people are involved.

Option 4 because this forum could use more activity in other threads and the speculation thread takes all of the air out of the proverbial famiboards room.
 
HockeyBird said:
Comicbook.com is such a garbage site. Trusted sources my ass. They post up any and all fake rumors. Everyone is trusted in their eyes.
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seriously. I trust the guy in the hardware thread who says his friends work at rockstar more than anything from that rag
 
My personal opinion on the survey is that the current plan is fine. To be honest, I was a little skeptical that this thread was necessary in the first place (even though I was a Drake reveal believer! I'm not very consistent!) but once it came about I don't really see the issue with it transitioning in purpose as news does or does not come. I certainly don't agree with retiring these threads - if you don't like them, you can put them on Ignore, there's no reason to stop others from enjoying them.

On the other hand, I think I probably came up with the current plan under the assumption that the natural start date for the Fall thread would be August 1, and I guess there's no reason why that needs to be the case. So we could give this a little break, and open a new one mid August. Or we could let this play out, then as the speculation turns more to September we convert the thread then. Or close it and open another one, rather than convert it. In essence, one of 1, 2, or 3 (or some combination) works for me.
 
hologram said:
My personal opinion on the survey is that the current plan is fine. To be honest, I was a little skeptical that this thread was necessary in the first place (even though I was a Drake reveal believer! I'm not very consistent!) but once it came about I don't really see the issue with it transitioning in purpose as news does or does not come. I certainly don't agree with retiring these threads - if you don't like them, you can put them on Ignore, there's no reason to stop others from enjoying them.

On the other hand, I think I probably came up with the current plan under the assumption that the natural start date for the Fall thread would be August 1, and I guess there's no reason why that needs to be the case. So we could give this a little break, and open a new one mid August. Or we could let this play out, then as the speculation turns more to September we convert the thread then. Or close it and open another one, rather than convert it. In essence, one of 1, 2, or 3 (or some combination) works for me.
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I think opening one too late in August might be a problem, because things may start heating up with announcements early August and the discussion may start in other places where it's not supposed to be.
 
how about we close this thread, and open a september thread when we get a nice juicy september rumor

maybe when nate the drake hears something?
 
you can’t have a continuous speculation topic on Nintendo on the Nintendo specific website? Nintendo Directs (of any kind are part of the Nintendo dna)
 
We have the tiniest hint for a september direct from a non credible source, someone make a september direct speculation thread!
 
1. Comicbook.com is basically a toilet. Lots of clickbait and half accurate information.
2. Maybe they deleted it after learning that their source was incorrect.
 
hologram said:
Hi folks, we'd like to survey the community a little to get a sense of what people want for this thread, and for the Speculation threads more broadly.

At this point, it seems fairly unlikely that there will be any event in July. This was always a distinct possibility, and at the time this thread was made the contingency plan was to simply convert this thread to the Fall Direct Speculation thread at the start of August.

The rationale behind this plan:
  • this way will stick closest to the original seasonal schedule of these threads (with the Fall one just starting, uh, very early)
  • people enjoy these threads, even if there isn't much to speculate about

Some potential counterpoints to this plan:
  • people are starting to feel a little fatigue from the constant speculation
  • the line between this thread and the General thread is increasingly unclear
  • this thread tends to be more cliquey and can be off-putting to newcomers

So, with this in mind, here are a few proposals for how to handle this thread (and Speculation threads in general) moving forward:
1. Continue with the current plan as outlined above
2. Leave this thread open, and allow these threads to exist more permanently with less formally defined rules
3. Close this thread, and open a new one mid-August
4. Close this thread, and retire these threads for a little while

We are of course open to any and all alternative suggestions. Thanks!

-Aurc, Donnie, hologram, mazi
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So, I personally prefer Option 1. I've enjoyed this thread a lot, and admittedly as a new member on Famiboards, I haven't delved into the General thread yet. But, I do like the "hype" a speculation thread like this has. And, until an actual Direct happens, I'm not sure the "purpose" for the thread is quite done yet. Yeah, there's a lot of silliness and random topics, but lots of people are still talking about what they want to see, based on their own preferences and for other "evidence" and leaks out there, which is speculation to me.

Some were talking about year-round speculation threads, and that seems like hairy ground, haha! :ROFLMAO: Since Nintendo has had a Direct of some sort in every month before, and they're all about not having any real patterns anymore, what about "seasonal" speculation threads? Like, 4 a year? That is, if people want a shiny, fresh thread for each potential Direct period of time. I don't think you've got to close any of these sorts of threads though; an announcement can be made in the last one of the new one being made to let people know, and we can all move over there. But, say, if someone was "following" a leak from a previous thread and wanted to comment on it there for consistency of that topic, instead of dragging it to the new thread, they'd be able to.

But, I'm a newbie here! How are threads handled regarding game rumors that happen to "come true" for a release? Like, if someone were to make a rumor thread for a game that's unannounced, filled with leaks and things people were talking about, and THEN that game got revealed...is that same thread "converted" to the "official thread" for that game on Famiboards, or have you all just made new threads for it?
 
They deleted the tweet after learning that the 13-year old, who was the original source of the Mario rumor, told them that his uncle did not in fact actually work at Nintendo.
 
Eradicate said:
Since Nintendo has had a Direct of some sort in every month before, and they're all about not having any real patterns anymore, what about "seasonal" speculation threads? Like, 4 a year? That is, if people want a shiny, fresh thread for each potential Direct period of time.
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yooo this is definitely my new vote

I'd love threads for Q1, Q2, Q3, and Q4
 
We're kind of in an awkward spot right now, where Nintendo has decided to forgo their typical announcement structure this summer and just randomly drop things. Why Nintendo decided to do this and how long it will last are things we'll only know in hindsight, but August looks to be much the same as July, except with a Splatoon Direct seeming pretty likely. It does feel like we probably want to put a hard stop to this thread at some point and regroup for fall, where there's at least some reasons to think Nintendo might go back to a more normal schedule, but it's hard to say when that point should be.
 
DecoReturns said:
We might as well finish out July. My OCD will be grateful for that lol
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hahaha I was actually about to say that

I'd fully support just closing the thread at the end of the month and waiting for a nice September Direct rumor to start the next one
 
DecoReturns said:
With Twitter.

Everyday is direct day! At 6am pacific time! Or 7am or 8am or 9am….

We can speculate forever 😳
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Haha, Nintendo has really done a number on us all! :ROFLMAO:

Raccoon said:
yooo this is definitely my new vote

I'd love threads for Q1, Q2, Q3, and Q4
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Alright, the Raccoon likes it!

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DecoReturns said:
We might as well finish out July. My OCD will be grateful for that lol
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Yeah, I'd be forever grateful to AT LEAST have this thread go through July please, haha! :ROFLMAO: No matter what, let's get at least that!
 
Here's how I see the next couple weeks going down:

  • Nothing this week besides the promotion and release of the GOAT Xenoblade 3 with an open world
  • The week after that we get a Pokémon trailer (finally!) for the preorders
  • Then in either the week of the 8th or 15th we finally hear about Mario Kart
  • Somewhere in there we get a release date for Kirby (lmao)

I think that we don't need a thread for that, because this week will of course be slower because of Xenoblade, then we'll immediately get Pokémon
 
Eradicate said:
Since Nintendo has had a Direct of some sort in every month before, and they're all about not having any real patterns anymore, what about "seasonal" speculation threads? Like, 4 a year? That is, if people want a shiny, fresh thread for each potential Direct period of time.
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As far as I understood it starting with @Raccoon's inaugural Direct Speculation thread, this was the initial intent. Four quarterly Specc Threads, and once the Direct for that period is announced the Specc Thread gets closed and discussion moves to a new Direcc Discussion Thread.

That's the way it worked last time, right?

It just got kinda goobered due to the lack of the usual summer Direct.
 
chocolate_supra said:
As far as I understood it starting with @Raccoon's inaugural Direct Speculation thread, this was the initial intent. Four quarterly Specc Threads, and once the Direct for that period is announced the Specc Thread gets closed and discussion moves to a new Direcc Discussion Thread.

That's the way it worked last time, right?
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Sorta. There was to be scheduled lulls in between regardless of if and when the Direct came. i.e. there were deadlines and designated start dates
 
Raccoon said:
Here's how I see the next couple weeks going down:

  • Nothing this week besides the promotion and release of the GOAT Xenoblade 3 with an open world
  • The week after that we get a Pokémon trailer (finally!) for the preorders
  • Then in either the week of the 8th or 15th we finally hear about Mario Kart
  • Somewhere in there we get a release date for Kirby (lmao)

I think that we don't need a thread for that, because this week will of course be slower because of Xenoblade, then we'll immediately get Pokémon
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I dont see new hardware :(
 
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