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TheQuietone said:
These fake Zelda subtitles are always so damn nonsensical. No Zelda subtitle has ever been a jumbled mess of words. Every single subtitle has made sense in the context of the game's story. Like make something like Ocarina of Time or something if you want anyone to even entertain your "leak" for more than a second.
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"Ocarina of Time" actually sounds ridiculously goofy without the context of the game.

I think that if the game never existed, and someone posed it as a potential title for BotW 2, it would be laughed at.

"Lute of Space"

"Harp of Time"

"Cello of Light"

"Ocarina of Time"

All equally absurd without the context of the wonderful game imprinted in our memories.

At least they're not as dull and unispired as "The Rise of ______"
 
Kongo B said:
Spicy opinion: it’s been 5 years of development time, people should 100% expect it to live up to the first game. I believe that it will.
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i mean if ocarina of time can get a sequel that is considered one of the best games of all time, i feel like BOTW2 has a shot too
 
poop said:
"Ocarina of Time" actually sounds ridiculously goofy without the context of the game.

I think that if the game never existed, and someone posed it as a potential title for BotW 2, it would be laughed at.

"Lute of Space"

"Harp of Time"

"Cello of Light"

"Ocarina of Time"

All equally absurd without the context of the wonderful game imprinted in our memories.

At least they're not as dull and unispired as "The Rise of ______"
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Yeah, most Zelda titles are pretty goofy or make no sense out of context.

I'm pretty sure "Waker" isn't even an actual word.
 
Honestly one thing that now makes me feel optimistic about Zelda, and Nintendo's other big guns probably waiting for new hardware (EPD 8, 9, and 10) is what we're seeing in terms of ambition for their major new titles this year. Kirby went 3D for the first time and Pokemon is going open world just after a major departure for the series in the shape of Legends. We've heard that the leaked Fire Emblem title is also ambitious. The context for Nintendo's next piece of hardware, and the software pipeline supporting the Switch, is that these games are being developed under very favourable conditions. There is no pressure on Nintendo to launch earlier than they want to. Their development groups are expanding and are receiving higher and higher levels of funding and investment on the back of consistently excellent fiscal results. When Nintendo moved to the hybrid model, this is partially what I think they wanted. They didn't want the pressure and disruption that comes from trying to juggle software production for a handheld line and a home console line transitioning from one generation to another; we saw how difficult that was becoming with the transition away from DS and Wii. That reduced pressure on the logistical front is enhanced by the company's current profitability and the strong position the Switch is in.

If any title among Nintendo's current games will benefit from that, it will be Zelda. Zelda is protected even when hardware is failing and Nintendo need a hit. Without that pressure, you can bet the developers have had everything they want. Look at Xenoblade Chronicles 3; previews this week not only show the soaring ambition we should expect from Tetsuya Takahashi, but implicitly the level of polish and attention to detail across the board in that game demonstrates how different a position Nintendo are in right now versus 2017. In 2017, Xenoblade 2 was pushed out the door with a bunch of UI and quality of life issues, with half of the staff having been on Zelda duty for a substantial amount of time.

In 2022, Xenoblade 3 launches after a lengthy production cycle, at a studio nearly three times the size it was 5 years ago, which now has a dedicated division assisting on Zelda. We haven't seen much of Zelda, but the circumstances in which it is being developed are very, very favourable for ambitious ideas to take root and come to fruition.
VolcanicDynamo said:
I know a lot of us are bullish on Zelda launching with the next Switch, and it would be a reasonable idea, but in the event that it doesn't, it's not the be all end all. Like, we haven't gotten EPD 8's next game yet. A big 3D Mario title could also be a showcase title for new hardware, assuming the system launches later next year instead of this year or Spring 2023.

I swear this is me making a reasoned guess this time and not just me being FamiBoards' self-proclaimed #1 Super Mario Fan.
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It's not wildly out there that EPD Tokyo have a game ready in time for the new hardware. I think the odds of one of their games launching later this year are low, purely because I think Nintendo would give that a longer run in from reveal to release. I guess there's the possibility that, if new hardware is announced soon for late 2022, then 3D Mario is announced alongside it to 'seal the deal'.

Basically, I half suspect EPD 8 are one of the Nintendo teams that have a game close to done by now, and that Nintendo are taking the time to get their ducks in a row. They'll want to manage the software line up carefully to maintain the Switch momentum as this new hardware arrives.
 
poop said:
"Ocarina of Time" actually sounds ridiculously goofy without the context of the game.

I think that if the game never existed, and someone posed it as a potential title for BotW 2, it would be laughed at.

"Lute of Space"

"Harp of Time"

"Cello of Light"

"Ocarina of Time"

All equally absurd without the context of the wonderful game imprinted in our memories.

At least they're not as dull and unispired as "The Rise of ______"
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Legend of Zelda: Guitar of History
 
poop said:
"Ocarina of Time" actually sounds ridiculously goofy without the context of the game.

I think that if the game never existed, and someone posed it as a potential title for BotW 2, it would be laughed at.

"Lute of Space"

"Harp of Time"

"Cello of Light"

"Ocarina of Time"

All equally absurd without the context of the wonderful game imprinted in our memories.

At least they're not as dull and unispired as "The Rise of ______"
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The Legend of Zelda: Oboe of Life
 
poop said:
"Ocarina of Time" actually sounds ridiculously goofy without the context of the game.

I think that if the game never existed, and someone posed it as a potential title for BotW 2, it would be laughed at.

"Lute of Space"

"Harp of Time"

"Cello of Light"

"Ocarina of Time"

All equally absurd without the context of the wonderful game imprinted in our memories.

At least they're not as dull and unispired as "The Rise of ______"
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The Zelda franchise had already established having instruments as key items before Ocarina of Time . I don't see how titles like Harp of Time, Cello of light or OOT itself would be goofy.
If anything, they could be seen as too boring or straith-forward.

Lute of Space would be goofy though, since "space" implies sci-fy rather than fantasy.
 
Maronic03 said:
The Zelda franchise had already established having instruments as key items before Ocarina of Time . I don't see how titles like Harp of Time, Cello of light or OOT itself would be goofy.
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We just have different opinions, it's as simple as that.
 
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Joe said:
It always made me laugh how fake "leaked" Zelda titles always were really dark and edgy. Fans have this idea that the Zelda series is some kind of dark epic fantasy, meanwhile the "darkest" entry in the franchise has stuff like this:

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Zelda is sometimes really good at setting a darker atmosphere at certain sections.

I always laugh at people ignoring all the lighthearted and goofy shit tho lol
MisterSpo said:
Honestly one thing that now makes me feel optimistic about Zelda, and Nintendo's other big guns probably waiting for new hardware (EPD 8, 9, and 10) is what we're seeing in terms of ambition for their major new titles this year. Kirby went 3D for the first time and Pokemon is going open world just after a major departure for the series in the shape of Legends. We've heard that the leaked Fire Emblem title is also ambitious. The context for Nintendo's next piece of hardware, and the software pipeline supporting the Switch, is that these games are being developed under very favourable conditions. There is no pressure on Nintendo to launch earlier than they want to. Their development groups are expanding and are receiving higher and higher levels of funding and investment on the back of consistently excellent fiscal results. When Nintendo moved to the hybrid model, this is partially what I think they wanted. They didn't want the pressure and disruption that comes from trying to juggle software production for a handheld line and a home console line transitioning from one generation to another; we saw how difficult that was becoming with the transition away from DS and Wii. That reduced pressure on the logistical front is enhanced by the company's current profitability and the strong position the Switch is in.

If any title among Nintendo's current games will benefit from that, it will be Zelda. Zelda is protected even when hardware is failing and Nintendo need a hit. Without that pressure, you can bet the developers have had everything they want. Look at Xenoblade Chronicles 3; previews this week not only show the soaring ambition we should expect from Tetsuya Takahashi, but implicitly the level of polish and attention to detail across the board in that game demonstrates how different a position Nintendo are in right now versus 2017. In 2017, Xenoblade 2 was pushed out the door with a bunch of UI and quality of life issues, with half of the staff having been on Zelda duty for a substantial amount of time.

In 2022, Xenoblade 3 launches after a lengthy production cycle, at a studio nearly three times the size it was 5 years ago, which now has a dedicated division assisting on Zelda. We haven't seen much of Zelda, but the circumstances in which it is being developed are very, very favourable for ambitious ideas to take root and come to fruition.

It's not wildly out there that EPD Tokyo have a game ready in time for the new hardware. I think the odds of one of their games launching later this year are low, purely because I think Nintendo would give that a longer run in from reveal to release. I guess there's the possibility that, if new hardware is announced soon for late 2022, then 3D Mario is announced alongside it to 'seal the deal'.

Basically, I half suspect EPD 8 are one of the Nintendo teams that have a game close to done by now, and that Nintendo are taking the time to get their ducks in a row. They'll want to manage the software line up carefully to maintain the Switch momentum as this new hardware arrives.
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Excellent post.
 
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The Legend of Zelda: Looking for a darkness sealing knight and/or princess must have 100 years experience or more serious inquires only resumes can be dropped off at Hyrule Castle basement Master Sword wielder preferred, wielder of Triforce currently or in the past preferred willing to pay 15 rupees/hr


See Zelda and Link think they're walking into a job interview
 
SofyTrancy said:
Hello guys!
Are there any leaks/rumors/hints about a possible event next week?
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Derachi said:
Derachi's Handy Compilation Post


WHAT WE KNOW:

- There is a July-long Official Splatoon Tournament being held by Nintendo, just like there was last year. Last year, it ran every week. This year, it runs every week except for next week. They have not given a reason for this.

- Nintendo likes to use video game preview coverage to fill out weeks where there would otherwise be no news from them. This week, however, we got press previews for both Live A Live and Xenoblade Chronicles 3. Usually both games would get their own week of coverage to themselves, but this week both games' coverage are crowded into a single week.

- They built an entire Nintendo Treehouse Live* (*I do believe that segment was pre-recorded) set just to show off Live A Live. That's not necessarily proof of anything, but getting a production crew and a set and hosts and equipment and all that isn't cheap. Usually this is done when they have multiple games to show off all at once. Live A Live certainly deserves showcasing, but to put together an entire production just for that one game feels like either an unnecessarily huge marketing spend, or there's maybe something more going on with that Treehouse Live set.

- They sure did announce a Splatoon 3-themed OLED (that looks, frankly, extremely cool) but had no new Splatoon 3 video content, such as a trailer or gameplay demo, ready to go alongside it.

- Nintendo did not announce or showcase any First Party software last month, where June is oftentimes THE place for them to do so. For evidence of this, please google "E3." We know they have games to talk about and show that are going to be out before the end of the year, both announced (Splatoon 3, for example) and unannounced (Metroid Prime 1 Remastered) so it is a little suspicious they had nothing to show.

- Nintendo likes to announce new Nintendo Switch Hardware in July. The Nintendo Switch Lite was revealed July 10th 2019, and the Nintendo Switch -- OLED Model was revealed July 6th 2021.

- This one is going to veer into a bit of a grey zone, as we know this, but we shouldn't know this, but: We know Nintendo and NVidia are working on a new piece of hardware that will be able to play games at 4K resolutions using a technology called DLSS. There are people who doubt the existence of this hardware, and while I am trying to keep this section dedicated wholly to information that we absolutely know and cannot dispute, I think it's important to point out that we have had leaks from Nvidia themselves regarding this hardware, how powerful it will be (from what I understand: pretty darn powerful) and how it's going to achieve 4K resolutions using DLSS. This more-or-less confirms that this hardware is going to happen at some point. Putting all of the information we've gotten regarding Developer Kit Distribution aside, which is up to the reader to determine whether or not they believe it, a genuine leak from NVidia themselves regarding the hardware simply cannot be ignored. What the leak does not tell us is the price, name, release date, if Nintendo will market the unit as a half-step (think PS4 to PS4 Pro) or a full generational leap (think PS4 to PS5) or, really, anything. It is purely a technology information dump. Please refer to the Future Hardware Thread for more information.

- Nintendo does not like competing videos to be available at the same time. This is common among companies that reveal products. It's a strategy to ensure that uninformed customers are not watching an older, out-of-date video instead of the most recent one. For example, when Apple has a reveal video for the iPhone 13, they will hide/delete the reveal video for the iPhone 12 to make absolutely sure no one is watching that one by mistake. Nintendo has hidden the OLED reveal video from about a year ago. This could have been, as former Nintendo of America Marketing Employee Kit Ellis suggested, due to music/actor licenses expiring a year later. Or it could have been to make sure all eyes are focused on that, again, extremely cool Splatoon 3 OLED. Or it could be something else. We simply do not know. Speaking of...



WHAT WE DO NOT KNOW:

- We do not know if there's anything Nintendo-related next week. We just don't. We won't know until it happens.

- We do not know if Nintendo is going to announce some new Nintendo Switch hardware next week or, frankly, at all this year.

- We do not know the name of the next hardware unit. "Switch Pro" is convenient shorthand, nothing more.

- We do not know why the Splatoon tournament is not running next week.

- We do not know why the Switch OLED reveal trailer was made hidden.



WHAT WE MIGHT KNOW:

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WHAT WE THINK:

- This section is more "data extrapolation" than anything else. Do not take anything below as fact.

- Nintendo has left next week suspiciously wide open. No Splatoon tournament, no preview coverage drops (the next two Nintendo Published game release previews dropped this week). They really do like having SOMETHING to tell/show us every week, from press preview embargoes lifting (meaning news/coverage outlets are allowed to talk about an upcoming game) to Nintendo Switch Online updates to a new Lego Set (which also dropped today, by the way) to literally anything. But next week has been absolutely cleared. This leads us to believe they have something real big to show/tell us.

- The lack of Splatoon tournament lends credence to the idea that they are gonna show something related to Splatoon 3, as per the "no competing videos" idea mentioned earlier. It could potentially be a Splatoon 3 Dedicated Direct. However, it's a little peculiar they wouldn't hold the Splatoon 3 OLED model reveal for that. It is also worth mentioning they have done a dedicated Splatoon Direct before both Splatoon 1 and Splatoon 2, but they were always two or three weeks before launch, not several months. There is a theory that Splatoon 3 was originally supposed to be a July game but it was delayed/switched places with Xenoblade Chronicles 3, and maybe the potential Splatoon 3 Direct being next week is a holdover from when it was a Late July game. But again, announcing the Splatoon 3 OLED now and not waiting for next week feels a little peculiar.

- Next week could absolutely be the reveal of a Switch Pro. Again, we're using "Switch Pro" as convenient shorthand. Yes, they just announced a Splatoon themed OLED, but that would not affect a Pro announcement. There is no way Nintendo is going to render the current Switch Family of Systems (Switch, Lite and OLED) obsolete right now, and all signs are pointing to the Pro being a premium (therefore expensive) but optional model. The OLED is not going anywhere, except potentially taking over the Regular Switch's spot as "default model." A Pro reveal next week actually makes some amount of sense in a number of different potential scenarios. Let's look at the most optimistic scenario: A Nintendo Direct + Hardware Showcase. Nintendo loves to showcase new Switch Hardware in July, which would explain the timing. The new hardware is, unlike the previous two revisions (Lite and OLED) going to directly affect how the games look and play. Last month, obviously, they had a Partner Showcase, but did not show off their First Party software. It would make sense that they held onto their First Party software to showcase the power/ability of this new 4K-capable unit. This would include showing new Splatoon 3 footage, which would explain the "no Splatoon 2 tournament" thing, because again, no competing videos. It would also explain why they announced the Splatoon 3 OLED unit this week but have nothing else Splatoon 3 to show: they do not want to confuse the consumer into thinking the Splatoon OLED does 4K, and they want to hold off on showing Splatoon 3 until they can officially show it in 4K. The "Hardware Showcase" would also explain them building the Treehouse Live set: If they have new Hardware to show off, they're going to want cameras/lighting/hosts/production crew to show off the actual physical unit in the literal best possible light. They just filmed the Live A Live stuff on it first, and showed it to us a little early.

- Next week could also simply be a First Party Software Showcase with no new Hardware. They still have games to show off, like Splatoon 3, games to give dates for, like Bayonetta 3, and games to announce, like the Metroid Prime 1 Remaster that is evidently happening this year. This could also potentially include, or maybe even consist solely of, Treehouse Live segments using the set built for the Live A Live Treehouse Live showcase last month. This could also amount to a Twitter-based announcement, similar to how Paper Mario The Origami King was revealed through a tweet/YouTube upload.

- Next week could simply be an empty week. I dunno, fam. Literally anything can happen.
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The Legend of Zelda: I've Been Reborn Yet Again to Kill This Pig Demon But This Time I Have a Drum And A Cat Is My Companion

It's my favorite light novel series.
 
We really do have a completely empty, barren week next week, don't we.

Super weird.
 
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Doesn't mean anything related to the event but I have started seeing Splatoon 3 ads online (by 3rd party retailers) it feels so weird to see Splatoon treated as such a big IP when I think off the Wii U days when it was considered it was going to bomb lol
 
Blue Monty said:
Doesn't mean anything related to the event but I have started seeing Splatoon 3 ads online (by 3rd party retailers) it feels so weird to see Splatoon treated as such a big IP when I think off the Wii U days when it was considered it was going to bomb lol
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never trust nintendo boomers
 
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MisterSpo said:
It's not wildly out there that EPD Tokyo have a game ready in time for the new hardware. I think the odds of one of their games launching later this year are low, purely because I think Nintendo would give that a longer run in from reveal to release. I guess there's the possibility that, if new hardware is announced soon for late 2022, then 3D Mario is announced alongside it to 'seal the deal'.

Basically, I half suspect EPD 8 are one of the Nintendo teams that have a game close to done by now, and that Nintendo are taking the time to get their ducks in a row. They'll want to manage the software line up carefully to maintain the Switch momentum as this new hardware arrives.
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I think if the hardware comes out late this year, 3D Mario isn't coming out with it. We're already getting Mario + Rabbids in October. A Mario game the following month would fight its sales, and I don't think they'd aim for December since that misses Black Friday unless they absolutely had to. And in a situation where they're sitting on it, I can't see them doing that.

At this point, I would be very surprised if 3D Mario is 2022. 2023 makes more sense given the release slate. You even get to repeat 2017 - that's big business. Heck, you could even do that with a 2D Mario and save 3D for 2024 (though I'd only want this if we're getting DK from EPD 8).
 
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poop said:
"Ocarina of Time" actually sounds ridiculously goofy without the context of the game.

I think that if the game never existed, and someone posed it as a potential title for BotW 2, it would be laughed at.

"Lute of Space"

"Harp of Time"

"Cello of Light"

"Ocarina of Time"

All equally absurd without the context of the wonderful game imprinted in our memories.

At least they're not as dull and unispired as "The Rise of ______"
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But spirit of souls? It's like saying the kitten of cats. Absolute nonsense.
 
prizna said:
I probably should buy Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, I dunno why I haven't picked it up yet lol
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I know it wont happen, but I kinda wish Nintendo would release Mario Kart 8 Deluxe+ being a cart with all the DLC included after all the Booster Courses are released.
 
I wonder if @Raccoon likes TLoZ: Spirit Tracks. Its a game about a train and a functioning rail road system and developing it further.
 
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