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Pre-Release Pokémon Scarlet and Violet — Pre-release Discussion Thread (UPDATE: new trailer, see threadmarks)

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Ok so battling seems to be seamless in the world itself.

Now I'm wondering if battling will be required to catch a wild Pokemon, or if we're still going to be able to sneak up on a Pokemon in the wild and catch it by throwing a Pokeball without battling at all.

I'm also wondering if Pokemon will attack us in the overworld, and if we'll have evasive movement options like the dodge.
 
I hope it's great. Arceus has done a lot to make me hopeful about Pokemon again

Plus this time the region is based on my country so... :p
 
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For a moment there it really looked like we were free from 3 year cycle. The expected jump of this actually looking like a Switch game this time is there, and it looks like the upgraded Pokemon models from Arceus will be the new standard, but the timing and focus on "open world" (I've always been of the opinion that what Pokemon needed was open level design, not actually going full open world) leave me with some pretty significant concerns about the game.
Everyone already dooming and glooming as if Game Freak just didn't drop the best Pokemon game ever made last month.
Yeah, Arceus just released. That's why I'm concerned. Game Freak is not a large studio and has a history of forcing unreasonable workloads on themselves.
 
I'm going with the grass cat! Though the other two are growing on me too, there's something cool about the shade of blue of some of the water duck details, and a fire crocodile is an unusual idea as they're semi-aquatic 🤔

Also curious about more gameplay details, looks like it could share some foundations with Arceus but at the same time it looks like a step-up. It would be interesting if they comment in some interview if the development of both were intertwined somehow
 
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I like that the lighting has improved so much, but I do miss the cel shaded look. The MCs especially aren't leaving to king very good. I'm playing Arceus right now and I love how the MC has that classic Sugimori face, and I'm not feeling it there.

Hopefully this will improve a bit.
 
Gonna post what I said on the other site and add a bit to it:

I wish this was more inspired by al Andalus specifically. It covers the Iberian peninsula, but it will be something non-Western finally. Making it focused on science, and perhaps even making it take place in the past. It would be far more interesting than being inspired by a western culture. It would give us more poc's as well.

Would also be very awesome to get Pokémon or elements in the game of astronomy, surgery, medicine etc.

A professor who specialises in Pokémon medicine or something would be cool.

On the trailer:
Game looks pretty rough, but that's to be expected by now. It'll probably be better by release.

Environments look better than Legends for sure, towns and indoor look hideous. Except that lone house though.

Pokémon still look soulless, but they actual textures on them now. They don't look like plastic toys walking around.

Seems like artstyle changed? Trainers look hideous, and I'm not talking about their outfits.

I wonder why they didn't show any battles. It'll probably be seamless like Legends, but they better not go back to the old style. I'm still cautious..

They're cutting Pokémon it seems? I thought they started with dexit because they had to put all the models from scratch into the games. By now they should have done a huge chunk of them already, why would you not put in what you have already worked on? Of course, we don't know this is the case for sure...

I really don't like that they're making gen 9 already though, AND we just had 2 Pokémon games recently. This doesn't bode well for the quality of the games. Still happy for those that were waiting on this.
Why can't they wait till next year? Why can't they make a new game/gen without new Pokémon. They know they're creating a problem by adding more and more Pokémon to the already high amount that we have. Heck, they don't even need a new region imo. Oh well...

Seems like Legends was indeed a proof of concept thing that they made. It always felt like it to me, it had good ideas that is leading into this. I hope this isn't just Legends mixed with old style Pokémon, I hope it's another big step forward.
 
For a moment there it really looked like we were free from 3 year cycle.
We will be free of another cycle instead: Switch will be the first system with 3 generations if Furukawa was serious about his "only half of its lifetime" comment.
 
Starters are fantastic.

The game looks just as ugly as Arceus and considering how soon it's coming out it seems it's gonna be another half baked rushed Pokemon game sadly.
 
Yeah, Arceus just released. That's why I'm concerned. Game Freak is not a large studio and has a history of forcing unreasonable workloads on themselves.

Genuinely curious with all the concerns about crunch I'm hearing – what is that history? Is there truly reason to believe there is a poor work environment at GF versus them having actually scaled up their team enough to handle this?

EDIT: Not doubting it whatsoever, just curious if there's been any speaking out
 
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Genuinely curious with all the concerns about crunch I'm hearing – what is that history? Is there truly reason to believe there is a poor work environment at GF versus them having actually scaled up their team enough to handle this?
Given the realities of Japanese work life, I would be surprised if most game studios didn't crunch. But that's a bigger problem outside of just video games.
 
We will be free of another cycle instead: Switch will be the first system with 3 generations if Furukawa was serious about his "only half of its lifetime" comment.
If they're sticking with a 3 year cycle for the next gen then we're getting gen 10 on the current Switch for sure. Could perhaps be cross-gen, but don't know if GF would do that.
 
Im not really feeling the art style. It looks more advanced than Arceus, but also less beautiful. I had the same issue with Sword/Shield.

By the way, Im from Spain and the spanish memes made after the announcement are really funny.
 
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I'm happy for Spanish Pokemon fans but ngl if we have to do every European country before a really cool region like India, Brazil, Australia, or China I'm gonna be kinda miffed lol.
 
Starters are fantastic.

The game looks just as ugly as Arceus and considering how soon it's coming out it seems it's gonna be another half baked rushed Pokemon game sadly.
Game looks way better than Legends, on top of having big cities and actually being fully open world this time:


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Game Freak literally just released a game and now they're squeezing out another one later this year. And that's after Sword and Shield had a sloppy, rushed second half.

Not exactly hard to reason that these games are gonna have some issues
You don’t know shit. You’re “reasoning” is based on one speculative assumption after another.

It could have been two different teams + sharing of assets/engine.

It stands to reason - if you used your eyes - this is the biggest and best looking game yet, and they have nearly a year to go.
 
I’m digging everything about this. However, there is bias on my part I will admit. I’m not from Spain, but Spanish Venezuelan and my great grandparents came from there, I have family there, and it’s been pretty much the cultural heritage I grew up with since I was a kid like most Spanish Venezuelans (which a good majority of of us are), so this makes me very happy. But of course, that is my bias speaking lol

I’m already Picking the duck, cause duck. Wife of course choosing cat, cause cat lol
 
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Saw the trailer just a moment ago.
I think the game looks better than SW&SS, and better than Arceus.

So, this game is actually open world. Interesting.

Still surprised.
 
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Gonna post what I said on the other site and add a bit to it:

I wish this was more inspired by al Andalus specifically. It covers the Iberian peninsula, but it will be something non-Western finally. Making it focused on science, and perhaps even making it take place in the past. It would be far more interesting than being inspired by a western culture. It would give us more poc's as well.

Would also be very awesome to get Pokémon or elements in the game of astronomy, surgery, medicine etc.

A professor who specialises in Pokémon medicine or something would be cool.
Following this up with an idea for the evil team, they could make it a reference to Spanish inquisitors.

I'm also wondering about the box legendaries. I can't remember whether they always revealed those from the start or it was always starters only?
 
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I'm not going to doubt this game will be amazing after Legends; but they really need to avoid making trailers when the current game is this rough.
Pokemon Company's marketing strategies for the past half decade have been an overcorrection to how they handled Sun and Moon. People complained about no gameplay for the reveal, now they always show extremely WIP gameplay at the reveal even though people end up bashing it like it is a final product. People complained about everything being revealed before Sun and Moon came out, so they went the other way and arguably keep too much too close to the chest.
 
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I would be amazed if Pokemon made a game based on problematic countries like Brazil or China, even Australia with its deeply racist history.
I mean, we are pretty much describing almost all nations regarding problematic histories, and ongoing still. Pokémon seems to base - at least from what I can tell - from the good parts of nations and not the iffy pasts. My heritage is Spain, and there’s so much I love about it, but I am fully aware of parts of their past.

Now China would be the most problematic one, only thinking of the current government, because it may prevent the game from being released there. Unless Pokémon games aren’t included in the Nintendo games released there? I don’t know much about that so someone else can hopefully educate me on that.
 
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Remember when they made a region based on America and one of the gym leaders was a black mammy stereotype

GameFreak, very sensitive towards racism
 
I would be amazed if Pokemon made a game based on problematic countries like Brazil or China, even Australia with its deeply racist history.
Yes, because other countries don't also have deeply racist histories. Why single out Australia here? Also wtf is Brazil doing here they're literally a normal country with some iffy environmental and political choices (which can be said about half the countries on the planet).
 
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Yes, because other countries don't also have deeply racist histories. Why single out Australia here? Also wtf is Brazil doing here they're literally a normal country with some iffy environmental and political choices (which can be said about half the countries of the planet).
Very normal behavior to make a stink about Brazil being "problematic" while upholding the United fucking Kingdom
 
I would be amazed if Pokemon made a game based on problematic countries like Brazil or China, even Australia with its deeply racist history.
We literally had games based on France, UK and now Spain/Portugal. We're already past problematic countries with deeply racist histories.
 
Remember when they made a region based on America and one of the gym leaders was a black mammy stereotype

GameFreak, very sensitive towards racism
To be fair that was a decade ago, Alola had a lot more diversity and none of it was problematic
 
They're gonna piss me off so bad if they introduce only 94 new pokémon to bring the total number to 999. Let us have this historical moment to witness the existence of #1000 pokémon this year.
 
I think "problematic" is a very silly word and this is a great demonstration of why

it's just a vague, non-specific condemnation that belies intent
 
I think "problematic" is a very silly word and this is a great demonstration of why

it's just a vague, non-specific condemnation that belies intent
Ranking "good" and "bad" countries is chauvinistic behavior and should never be seriously engaged in to begin with, but the gall to pretend the UK is somehow not racist now is just laughable. Political understanding of a Dunsparce.

To be fair that was a decade ago, Alola had a lot more diversity and none of it was problematic
Oh I know, just pointing out that this whole argument is in incredibly bad faith.
 
They're gonna piss me off so bad if they introduce only 94 new pokémon to bring the total number to 999. Let us have this historical moment to witness the existence of #1000 pokémon this year.
I fully expect ~70 or perhaps even less. Don't think even mid gen Pokemon will be enough. We'll get #1000 in Gen X.
 
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