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It’s the Nintendo Move:The code name is gym
• Move from your handheld to the TV
• Move from your house to your commute with it
• Move from 720 or 1080p to 4k
The Nintendo Move,
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It’s the Nintendo Move:The code name is gym
Shout out to this guy for whatever this is. Blud successfully sexualised a trailer.I think it’s all about perception. If they only get 20% performance lift that’s still a thing. It’s a thing you market what you did to get there. You don’t mention that number of course, probably no numbers, but you market the tech… buzz words for the metal case, cooling system, dock with a fan, it’s HIGH TECH BABY, now look at this trailer… that looks as good as a PS5 right? Right? But wait, there’s more! It’s still a switch! OMG right? Ya. You want this hot piece of tech. Mmmm look at this rendering of the inside of our machine… oooh that big ol heat sink. Ya you like that don’t you.
You wanna play with power, don’t you? Ya you do. Super Power. BUY NOW.
the Super Sexy Nintendo SwitchShout out to this guy for whatever this is. Blud successfully sexualised a trailer.
One. Has to have hope. Even better when backed up by analysis.It's happening isn't it?
The next 48 hours are going to be such a rollercoaster, either confirmed as an human/licensing error or something much bigger.It's happening isn't it?
I would not go so far as to say it's happening.It's happening isn't it?
This is pretty much guaranteed to be about the oled.Wow, this is old. No idea if any of this has relevance at this point, the body has probably changed several times since then. I don't expect any significant docked boosts because of parity and memory bandwidth, though.
It would be the last Wonder Flower.you all realize mario comes out on friday right
why would they do this to themselves
Assuming it doesn't leak before then, sure.Will you tell us the codename after it reveals?
I’m at the point where I think an announcement anytime in the next 4 months wouldn’t surprise me. If I had to put money down I’d put it at closer to the end of that window, but I’m not going to say “impossible” any longer.Reading both threads and it seems to me like even the reasonable people (that includes you, that excludes me) expect a little something in the coming days/weeks am I right ?
They've not been crystal clear, but they've been pretty up front in investor meetings that they want them to, and have the technology to make them do so.And most of all you better use it to tell me that my digital library carries over.
To smother the news cycle with Nintendo hype to try and suppress Sony's upcoming efforts with their new model and Spiderman 2. A generation is a lot bigger than one game, while Switch 2's reveal could heavily feature Wonder as a display of BC/enhancements, contributing to the media cycle of Wonder rather than detract.you all realize mario comes out on friday right
why would they do this to themselves
Just wanting to second this.Love ya'll, you're all very smart.
Trying to reverse engineer IP law from first principles, or guess licensing shenanigans in the music industry without having worked in it - fool's errand. It's weirder than you could possibly imagine in your free time.
Not saying it is licensing shenanigans, but you can't dismiss it, because you cannot imagine how insanely complicated it would be. We're talking about an industry where the biggest pop star in the western world had to rerecord her own early albums because a label keeps hard drives in a vault and IP law treats them like artifacts in Final Fantasy game.
Metal case likely wouldn't cost much more than what they do now. OLED Model uses as much metal as a metal encased Switch would, but it covers it with a plastic panel for a variety of reasons.Hopes aside though, would Nintendo prioritize a metal chassis over an OLED screen? Because if we're getting an LCD due to cost-cutting...
mm concrete /jThe Nintendo Slab
By the end of the month at the latest seems realistic.
I realise this is getting off the topic of hardware speculation, so to bring that back a bit, now would make a lot of sense to reveal the device T239 is for. If the reveal really is next year, I think March or April is probably the time with the most solid chance, and that would mean a chip goes two entire calendar years from tape out to even being able to PREORDER the device that uses it. Unless there's been some expensive, unusual situation where Nintendo is stockpiling countless T239 SOCs thanks to the long lead-up. Storing things is expensive, after all. Late next year might "feel" right to people, but since we know with good confidence what the timeline of the SOC has been, it makes late next year extremely unusual. This isn't like Tegra X1 where there was a different mass market device for it to go into and be sold as a part of.
Clearly Mario is the happeningyou all realize mario comes out on friday right
why would they do this to themselves
I doubt it. IIRC there hasn't been precedent for a new Nintendo console being leaked via datamining.yall think when Mario Wonder is properly datamined we'll see any references to the next system?
I severely doubt it, if it hasn't happened by now. Wonder has probably been QAed to hell and back, including checks that nothing that doesn't need to ship ships.yall think when Mario Wonder is properly datamined we'll see any references to the next system?
When would the precedent have been set before? The Wii U wouldn't visually enhance games, nor would the DS to the 3DS.Clearly Mario is the happening
because it certainly will be for me come Friday.
I doubt it. IIRC there hasn't been precedent for a new Nintendo console being leaked via datamining.
for sure you could be right but their design budget for this machine is higher considering its coming off a homerun vs a flop. Cheap phone battery capacities are indeed materially higher now and so to me it seems that heat is for sure the main constraint, especially in docked mode. It will be interesting to see what they do, but I would say the same power draw in both modes is a pretty fair worst case scenarioI'm firmly in the camp that it will consume the same wattage as the original Nintendo Switch. There's just a lot that points in that direction. Nintendo likes to reuse accessories, especially chargers, so it's less likely it will exceed the capacity of the existing Nintendo USB C charger. T239 on 4N doesn't consume more power than Tegra X1 based on the clocks we saw in the Nvidia leaks, which were linked with target wattages which themselves line up with power consumption for the GPU in the original Nintendo Switch. A larger screen doesn't contribute to more power consumption, because screens have gotten more power efficient since 2017. The controllers have their own batteries, so short stints of intense rumble thanks to new haptics won't impact power consumption. All this, while power consumption directly contributes to heat output and the need for heat dissipation, so if they want this device to be light enough to carry around, light and small enough to fit in the hands of children, appealing to the Japanese market, or the fashion conscious markets in the USA, it can't consume much more, if any more, power than the original Nintendo Switch.
T239 on 4N can achieve truly incredible performance at the same power consumption as the original Nintendo Switch, I would even say it appears designed to do so, so there isn't a benefit to pushing past that power consumption and heat dissipation.
i can't imagine they'd be that much more expensive than a normal button. it would just be like a mouse wheel, and mice are pretty cheap.has anyone factored the price of the scrolling shoulder buttons in
One day this video will probably be privatised and we will be in the biggest hype moment ever
biggest hype moment ever, after the one for Sushi Strikers 2
The general public won't but I think people here would like to know. Would be weird for the console to reveal and for us to not know its codenameWill people still care about that after the reveal? I mean, I would, but I dunno about most people.
Nintendo is not Digital Foundry and they won't show a direct comparison of the same game on Switch and Switch 2. And that's the only way you'd notice the difference in Wonder: higher resolution and some more elaborate effect.To smother the news cycle with Nintendo hype to try and suppress Sony's upcoming efforts with their new model and Spiderman 2. A generation is a lot bigger than one game, while Switch 2's reveal could heavily feature Wonder as a display of BC/enhancements, contributing to the media cycle of Wonder rather than detract.
That said, I don't expect it to be revealed this week at all, and think next week or the week after us a lot more likely.
If a "half backwards compatiblity" is in the cards, I would say they would prioritise digital copies because they're the ones who generate more revenue. Another thing that would imply a digital-only BC is a significant change in cartridge size/format. I think Nintendo also stated that they plan to transition stuff like accounts into next-gen.If you’re going to reveal soon Nintendo you better hurry up. And most of all you better use it to tell me that my digital library carries over.
I’m tired of wondering if I should buy a game digitally or not. Wonder sitting at a 93, but buying digital sounds especially bad late in the gen without that confirmation.
Edit: I have a leftover voucher apparently from who knows what. Probably Tears of the Kingdom. Not sure I’m going to get a better full priced game than this before Switch 2…
Nothing that a press release can't solve. They could reveal on November 2nd with a quite short teaser showcasing BC, 4KRT graphics and release window and still not detract much from SMRPG and the holiday sales.Nintendo is not Digital Foundry and they won't show a direct comparison of the same game on Switch and Switch 2. And that's the only way you'd notice the difference in Wonder: higher resolution and some more elaborate effect.
A new generation announcement would kill Wonder mindshare, not enhance it.
I expect the next gen Lite will drop Game Cards, but no way will the launch model. The launch model will with little doubt have a card reader that can read both Game Card and NG Game Card, and it's likely that cross gen games will come on an OG Game Card with the "patch" already on board, since they said they want a "smooth transition", that seems to imply they wouldn't want seperate SKUs across gen, like how Xbox works.If a "half backwards compatiblity" is in the cards, I would say they would prioritise digital copies because they're the ones who generate more revenue. Another thing that would imply a digital-only BC is a significant change in cartridge size/format. I think Nintendo also stated that they plan to transition stuff like accounts into next-gen.
THE average poster in this thread isn't "people". So yea I think a lot would care.Will people still care about that after the reveal? I mean, I would, but I dunno about most people.
You like what you like!Maybe this sounds weird to some of you, but I kinda hope the new device doesn't have a metal case. Call me cheap, but I prefer the feel of really smooth plastic to metal on devices like this.
Plastic - insulator. Metal - conductor. A metal chassis is conceivably part of the whole cooling system, so it may not be optional.Hopes aside though, would Nintendo prioritize a metal chassis over an OLED screen? Because if we're getting an LCD due to cost-cutting...
May be cheap, but can they be engineered to keep the new joycons relatively slim? Or are they giving up the form factor to make them a little bulkier and ergonomic?i can't imagine they'd be that much more expensive than a normal button. it would just be like a mouse wheel, and mice are pretty cheap.
Sure, but the problem is that they add mechanical complexity and allow gunk to get inside the controller, something they have a problem with due to the current design of the joysticks.May be cheap, but can they be engineered to keep the new joycons relatively slim? Or are they giving up the form factor to make them a little bulkier and ergonomic?
Still, citation needed. Especially on Mario Wonder. It's way to early to say if it has the potential to keep demand steady or not.I was referring to Q4, which is January through March.
Gates are bad things. This would be more like #YayMetalBecauseThatMeansItIsGonnaBeAwesome#MetalGate
Gym the knight from Hydlide ?The code name is gym
average hardware thread denizenGates are bad things. This would be more like #YayMetalBecauseThatMeansItIsGonnaBeAwesome
Wouldn't a metal case make the product a tad more expensive?
Slim and metal is my hope. Heck, they could make it slimmer than the original switch if they want!average hardware thread denizen
The end result of letting it rip here is probably the difference between using DLSS to do 1080->4K, or being able to use DLSS to do 1280->4K. A relatively small difference that's still going to leave it in the same general spot relative to Switch and PS5 on either side.
True man. There could be research done here to figure out how high these tensor cores need to be clocked to get there. I'm not smart enough to do that though.Not necessarily. Upping the GPU clocks also means making the tensor cores run faster, allowing it to do DLSS better. It might be the difference between using DLSS to hit 1440p and then upscaling to 2160p (so you get unsightly upscaling artifacts), or getting proper DLSS 2160p.
I don't see the correlation.you all realize mario comes out on friday right
why would they do this to themselves
True man. There could be research done here to figure out how high these tensor cores need to be clocked to get there. I'm not smart enough to do that though.
the Stupid Sexy Nintendo Switch