StarTopic Future Nintendo Hardware & Technology Speculation & Discussion |ST| (Read the staff posts before commenting!)

[LukasManak22]

If am being honest, I don't give a fuck when new hardware is, Holiday 2023, early 2024 or even mid 2024 to end of the year. Only reason I care is because when new hardware is ready, the EPD Tokyo 3D godness after 6 years in MIA is ready too.

 

[Skittzo]

If they releasing "Switch 2" this year, than Nintendo would save Zelda TotK like launch title.

I used to think so too, but if TotK was originally planned for holiday 2022 (or even earlier pre -COVID) then maybe they didn't feel comfortable pushing it back that much. Especially if there is also a chance the hardware could be delayed.

 

[Simba1]

Or maybe they want to sell both Switch and Switch 2 releasing a patch upgrade with the new console

Why Sony didn't save The Last of US 1 for PS4?

They could sell Switch and Switch 2 in any case, you can use same argument for any potential launch game,
but Zelda TotK would be huge marketing tool for Switch 2 launch, hardly Nintendo would pass such a oportunity if they releasing new hardware only 5-6 months after Zelda TotK launch.

TLoU for PS4 was released hole year after PS3 release, also Nintendo is not Sony, Nintendo looking to have huge game like launch title for hardware (especially now after Wii U).

 

[Dark Cloud]

Damn Jeff is 45% on it coming this year? I mean one of the thoughts of why Nintendo is being odd with their announcements was because Switch 2 was coming this holiday. 3D Mario will be the launch title.

Nate and others gotta hear stuff in the next couple of months if it’s coming this year.

 

[Simba1]

I used to think so too, but if TotK was originally planned for holiday 2022 (or even earlier pre -COVID) then maybe they didn't feel comfortable pushing it back that much. Especially if there is also a chance the hardware could be delayed.

I mean and "Switch Pro" was internally planned to be released much earlier and now it become "Switch 2",
also every Zelda game had multiply delays, this Zelda game actually wasn't delayed at all, also delaying another 5-6 months would be nothing for Nintendo if they want strong marketing tool for launch of new hardware.

I just don't see releasing so big game and next gen hardware 5-6 months apart, doesn't make too much sense coming from Nintendo.

 

[Simba1]

Damn Jeff is 45% on it coming this year? I mean one of the thoughts of why Nintendo is being odd with their announcements was because Switch 2 was coming this holiday. 3D Mario will be the launch title.

Nate and others gotta hear stuff in the next couple of months if it’s coming this year.

Jeff last few years was more wrong than right, and with this 45% doesnt sounds too confident..

 

[Skittzo]

I mean and "Switch Pro" was internally planned to be released much earlier and now it become "Switch 2",
also every Zelda game had multiply delays, this Zelda game actually wasn't delayed at all, also delaying another 5-6 months would be nothing for Nintendo if they know want strong marketing tool for launch of new hardware.

What? At a minimum it was delayed from its original 2022 release date.

I'm not entirely sure what the rest of your post has to do with anything. I'm saying that it's possible they weren't comfortable delaying this game any further than they already did.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I think the worst part for me is hearing people say it will launch with 3D Mario and Metroid Prime 4…like please understand Nintendo is not launching a system with 3D Mario and 3D Metroid.

3D Mario is the system seller (yes we know the system will sell out anyways). Metroid Prime 4 could still come this holiday and Switch 2 by March 2024. Or Prime 4 comes out after Switch 2, but you’ll still be able to play it on Switch 1.

 

[Bonejack]

Prime 4 would probably be a cross-gen game in the case it launches anytime near Drake (before or after).

 

[Zemya]

I think people here are overestimating the relevance of better performance for mass audiences. TOTK is a NSW1 game no matter what new revision you attach or not attach to it. Do you think all the people outside a gaming enthusiasts echo chamber website would bother buying a new console just for double the framerate or rather just play it right away with their good old switch? I love analysis and overthinking, but we must think as a company would. They don't make decisions based on the loud cranky performance-obsessed niche.

TLDR: Don't take TOTK as a hint in favor or against something at the end of the year.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Jeff last few years was more wrong than right, and with this 45% doesnt sounds too confident..

I know he’s not more confident, but at least it’s good to hear something from insiders. I still think it’ll come early 2024

 

[Galgavias]

I think the simple thing with Zelda would be to release an update to boost the graphics whenever the next Switch launches, and it could coincide with significant DLC. Nintendo won't want to turn their nose up at selling TOTK to those 115m odd Switches out in the wild currently. A significant 'Torna'-style DLC for Zelda could still add as a good enough incentive to upgrade to the new Switch.

Responding to currently rumblings, I've speculated for a while now that a March 2024 launch for the next Switch (to coincide with their financial year end) could be a good move. Maybe that's what they're aiming for.

 

[Dark Cloud]

It sucks if it don’t come this year I gotta wait until after the holidays for the announcement…

It just doesn’t feel like it’s coming this year. I still see a 2D Mario coming this holiday for Switch. Switch 2 announcement January/February and release by May the latest.

 

[Simba1]

What? At a minimum it was delayed from its original 2022 release date.

I'm not entirely sure what the rest of your post has to do with anything. I'm saying that it's possible they weren't comfortable delaying this game any further than they already did.

Maybe I am wrong, isnt 2023. 1st release year we got for launch year? I dont talk about internal delayes but about public, and almost every Zelda had multiply public delays.

Point is about new hardware launch and that Zelda TotK could easily be tied to it.

 

[Gerald]

[RUMOR] Jeff Grubb claims he has been hearing things about a possible Switch 2 announcement in late 2023

Seems like the clip can't be embedded, but here's the link: https://www.youtube.com/clip/Ugkx6CIGKCJlprZ6i3Pw3rFy7dQa2cI_aL2m Credit to IDontBeatGames for the find

www.resetera.com

 

[Bonejack]

Maybe I am wrong, isnt 2023. 1st release year we got for launch year? I dont talk about internal delayes but about public, and almost every Zelda had multiply public delays.

Point is about new hardware launch and that Zelda TotK could easily be tied to it.

You can probably add 1.5 to 2 years to the time the Zelda Team had to develop TotK due to Covid.

While i'm not saying it would've been a "fast announce to release", i'm pretty sure without Covid TotK would've released before 2023.

 

[Simba1]

It sucks if it don’t come this year I gotta wait until after the holidays for the announcement…

It just doesn’t feel like it’s coming this year. I still see a 2D Mario coming this holiday for Switch. Switch 2 announcement January/February and release by May the latest.

I looking from different perspective, next year launch could mean bigger and better improvements compared to current Switch, and I am very glad that "Pro" talk finally died.
Next March would mean exactly 7 years after current Switch, so hole generation.

 

[Simba1]

You can probably add 1.5 to 2 years to the time the Zelda Team had to develop TotK due to Covid.

While i'm not saying it would've been a "fast announce to release", i'm pretty sure without Covid TotK would've released before 2023.

That doesnt change what I wrote, I mean without Covid we would probably had "Pro" Switch released around 2 years ago.

 

[Dark Cloud]

I looking from different perspective, next year launch could mean bigger and better improvements compared to current Switch, and I am very glad that "Pro" talk finally died.
Next March would mean exactly 7 years after current Switch, so hole generation.

I’m glad it’ll be a new generation. I’m always looking forward to the first presentation where they discuss the system and games coming for it. It’s like peak excitement with new hardware + new software

 

[Bonejack]

That doesnt change what I wrote, I mean without Covid we would probably had "Pro" Switch released around 2 years ago.

Eh, dunno. You gotta keep in mind hardware setup has to be finalized quite some time before production, if there would've been a somewhat set plan to launch a Pro model in 2020 or 2021, Covid should've only delayed announcement and launch by little time.

Plus, it's not like there haven't been any new hardware launches during the pandemic and the component shortage times.

I’m glad it’ll be a new generation. I’m always looking forward to the first presentation where they discuss the system and games coming for it. It’s like peak excitement with new hardware + new software

Let's be honest, i think we all have the same wish for Drake / Switch 2 (or whatever it will be called) ... that wish being: "Just" be a more powerful Switch with some refinements and neat additions (like Scrollwheel-Shoulderbuttons) and be BC with Switch 1.

No Wii U situation please. In hardware and naming.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Eh, dunno. You gotta keep in mind hardware setup has to be finalized quite some time before production, if there would've been a somewhat set plan to launch a Pro model in 2020 or 2021, Covid should've only delayed announcement and launch by little time.

Plus, it's not like there haven't been any new hardware launches during the pandemic and the component shortage times.



Let's be honest, i think we all have the same wish for Drake / Switch 2 (or whatever it will be called) ... that wish being: "Just" be a more powerful Switch with some refinements and neat additions (like Scrollwheel-Shoulderbuttons) and be BC with Switch 1.

No Wii U situation please. In hardware and naming.

Yes, just keep it straight and simple.

 

[Simba1]

I’m glad it’ll be a new generation. I’m always looking forward to the first presentation where they discuss the system and games coming for it. It’s like peak excitement with new hardware + new software

Agree, and I am really glad that this will not be some mid gen upgrade but full blown up next gen console launch in every sense.

 

[kvetcha]

I think people here are overestimating the relevance of better performance for mass audiences. TOTK is a NSW1 game no matter what new revision you attach or not attach to it. Do you think all the people outside a gaming enthusiasts echo chamber website would bother buying a new console just for double the framerate or rather just play it right away with their good old switch? I love analysis and overthinking, but we must think as a company would. They don't make decisions based on the loud cranky performance-obsessed niche.

TLDR: Don't take TOTK as a hint in favor or against something at the end of the year.

I think the argument is mostly that Nintendo has a successful track record of simultaneously releasing marginally upgraded SKUs of previous-gen Zelda games on their newest hardware, so there would be a poetry to it.

 

[Simba1]

Eh, dunno. You gotta keep in mind hardware setup has to be finalized quite some time before production, if there would've been a somewhat set plan to launch a Pro model in 2020 or 2021, Covid should've only delayed announcement and launch by little time.

Plus, it's not like there haven't been any new hardware launches during the pandemic and the component shortage times.

Actually if look at all rumors and infos about stronger and new Switch model going starting from around 2019. it seems that stronger Switch should be launched sometime around 2020-2021. and Switch OLED seems like fast replacement for stronger Switch while Nintendo abandoned plans about stronger Switch revision and decided to go full next gen Switch in any sense. Like you wrote all because pandemic, parts and productions complications, rise of costs, timing..

 

[stodesign12]

I looking from different perspective, next year launch could mean bigger and better improvements compared to current Switch, and I am very glad that "Pro" talk finally died.
Next March would mean exactly 7 years after current Switch, so hole generation.

I think there is no difference between "pro" and "2" at this point. It's just a new Switch with some exclusive titles and perfomance patches. If it launched earlier, it would have been a bit less powerful and named "pro", but it's exactly the same concept. I don't really feel "Switch 2" counts as a proper new generation tbh.
The Switch era is going to be the longest era of any Nintendo console,

 

[carbonaxiom]

That doesnt change what I wrote, I mean without Covid we would probably had "Pro" Switch released around 2 years ago.

Maybe, but whatever that would have been was not something that would have used the Drake SoC.

In fact, despite the long discussion about a pro device having been cancelled, and what that means for a successor and its release timeline, at the end of the day, the Nvidia leak, and the fairly hard limits the leak's information provides on how long production can be delayed on the Nintendo device that will be using Drake, remains effectively unchallenged.

I wonder if all the recent confusion with rumors about this device has come from a fundamental hesitance to bring up the Nvidia leak in conversations with sources. I can see how entire conversations could be had around plans for possible pro devices and such while completely missing out on relevant information the source might have if the discussion had focused on hardware specifics from the leak.

 

[Concernt]

I think there is no difference between "pro" and "2" at this point. It's just a new Switch with some exclusive titles and perfomance patches. If it launched earlier, it would have been a bit less powerful and named "pro", but it's exactly the same concept. I don't really feel "Switch 2" counts as a proper new generation tbh.
The Switch era is going to be the longest era of any Nintendo console,

I'd bet 10 years of software support for the original Switch, plus another 10 years using the Switch brand with various formfactors.

Thanks to the architecture, it's a pretty scalable "ecosystem". While I think the headlining device will always be able to Switch, I wouldn't be surprised if we got a Switch [REDACTED] PLUS Home Edition for better performance at the sacrifice of portability, Switch [REDACTED] Mini alongside the [REDACTED] Lite.

Working with Nvidia on custom silicon gives them a LOT of wiggleroom.

I'd love to see a non-Lite mini model. Clamshell design, smallest size in the lineup, optional, sold-seperately dock, etc.

Now the 3DS family is long dead, the use of a clamshell formfactor wouldn't cause market confusion.

 

[Bonejack]

Petition to change [REDACTED] to [REDRAKETED].

 

[Erathix]

Petition to change [REDACTED] to [REDRAKETED].

Did I miss something? I'm seeing REDACTED everywhere now in reference with Switch. Are we not allowed to say something lest the ninja's come for us and everyone we love?

....I've been prepping -_-

 

[Zaimokuza]

Did I miss something? I'm seeing REDACTED everywhere now in reference with Switch. Are we not allowed to say something lest the ninja's come for us and everyone we love?

....I've been prepping -_-

The CMA wrote that the Nintendo Switch Online is available on the Switch and [REDACTED] (a black line, actually) and that's where it started

 

[Concernt]

Did I miss something? I'm seeing REDACTED everywhere now in reference with Switch. Are we not allowed to say something lest the ninja's come for us and everyone we love?

....I've been prepping -_-

Due to the ongoing legal proceedings surrounding the Microsoft acquision of ABK, Microsoft had to make a declaration on the competition posed to them by Nintendo, wherein they mentioned two platforms; Nintendo Switch, and a second system which Nintendo had "Redacted" in the public release.

In the documentation this shows up as "[REDACTED]".

This is as close to an official recognition as we've ever got, so people here have begun calling the next system the "[REDACTED]" or "Nintendo Switch [REDACTED]" to avoid the debate over the possible names. Originally as a joke, now in earnest as a way to avoid either ambiguous language ("The next Nintendo system") or fan-made names ("Super Nintendo Switch").

 

[Bonejack]

Did I miss something? I'm seeing REDACTED everywhere now in reference with Switch. Are we not allowed to say something lest the ninja's come for us and everyone we love?

....I've been prepping -_-

I think it's coming from some ... FMA (or another US agency) report about some service or network from Nintendo being compatible with Switch and [REDACTED], standing for the next system.

Or something.

I wasn't very attentive last week.

E:

Oh, the CMA. Mixed that up.

But yeah, see the posts above this one.

 

[Simba1]

I'd bet 10 years of software support for the original Switch, plus another 10 years using the Switch brand with various formfactors.

No way that Nintendo will support current Switch models around 10 years after Switch 2 is out,
sooner or later they will want to focus only on new hardware and they will want all current Switch owners upgrade to next generation of Switch.

You will probably get around 2-3 years of support for current Switch models after Switch 2 launch.

 

[Aether]

No way that Nintendo will support current Switch models around 10 years after Switch 2 is out,
sooner or later they will want to focus only on new hardware and they will want all current Switch owners upgrade to next generation of Switch.

You will probably get around 2-3 years of support for current Switch models after Switch 2 launch.

i think she was meaning in total, so if redacted comes out by march, it will be 7+3 by her assessment for the original switch, and the brand as a whole 20 years (so another redacted (2) in 6-7 years)

 

[Bonejack]

i think he was meaning in total, so if redacted comes out by march, it will be 7+3 by his assessment for the original switch, and the brand as a whole 20 years (so another redacted (2) in 6-7 years)

She.

 

[Aether]

She.

thx, corrected, sorry ^^"

 

[mjayer]

Personally I feel like seeing [REDACTED] in all these posts is kind of annoying lol. It was funny at first but to me it got old and feels grating. You guys do you but I'd much prefer just the simple Switch 2. Whatever they call it, for me it's Switch 2.

 

[Simba1]

What? At a minimum it was delayed from its original 2022 release date.

I'm not entirely sure what the rest of your post has to do with anything. I'm saying that it's possible they weren't comfortable delaying this game any further than they already did.

If I am not wrong, 2023. is 1st release date, so it's not delayed publicly.

Why would they they wouldnt be comfortable when every previous Zelda had public delays, and when they have launch of new hardware with they could launch alongside, it too good opurtunity for Nintendo to miss it, if Switch 2 is really launching this year.

 

[Concernt]

Personally I feel like seeing [REDACTED] in all these posts is kind of annoying lol. It was funny at first but to me it got old and feels grating. You guys do you but I'd much prefer just the simple Switch 2. Whatever they call it, for me it's Switch 2.

2 [REDACTED] 2 Spurious.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Redacted is too much to type out

 

[Hermii]

I dont mind just calling it redacted, because it takes the focus away from whatever this thing will be marketed as. Its not a loaded term, like a "pro" or a "2".

 

[Aether]

Redacted is too much to type out

[redacted] -> redacted -> REDacted -> RED
Lets just call it the nintendo RED for short. Color Fits.

NRED. Almost NERD. N.E.R.D. oh well.

 

[Hosermess]

If I am not wrong, 2023. is 1st release date, so it's not delayed publicly.

Why would they they wouldnt be comfortable when every previous Zelda had public delays, and when they have launch of new hardware with they could launch alongside, it too good opurtunity for Nintendo to miss it, if Switch 2 is really launching this year.

I think the fact that's it's a direct sequel could be a part of it. I'm sure Switch 2 will eventually have a Zelda game to call it's own.

And I also think if we wait and see, when they announce the Switch 2 it will have a decent batch of strong launch window titles that will be just fine without TotK being in there. (And I imagine they could also tease a heavy hitter exclusive or two, titles that aren't coming out within the first 6 months but will help build the hype and entice people to upgrade).

 

[Serif]

Switch Advance til my death (or until its announced, whichever is first)

 

[Dekuman]

I'm still partial to Nintendo Switch Super

 

[chocolate_supra]

Redacted is too much to type out

My phone's predictive text is already used to autofilling it. It's super easy for me now.

 

[Erathix]

Due to the ongoing legal proceedings surrounding the Microsoft acquision of ABK, Microsoft had to make a declaration on the competition posed to them by Nintendo, wherein they mentioned two platforms; Nintendo Switch, and a second system which Nintendo had "Redacted" in the public release.

In the documentation this shows up as "[REDACTED]".

This is as close to an official recognition as we've ever got, so people here have begun calling the next system the "[REDACTED]" or "Nintendo Switch [REDACTED]" to avoid the debate over the possible names. Originally as a joke, now in earnest as a way to avoid either ambiguous language ("The next Nintendo system") or fan-made names ("Super Nintendo Switch").

Well, well, well, ain't that some extra deliciousness on top of this already delicious next gen cake.

45% chance it releases this year? I like those odds, better than 44%. I'm so certain that I'll fly to Japan, stand in Super Nintendo World with my custom Switch Lite, wear a big ol' sign over me like some prophet chanting about the date of the apocalypse with the day and date this year Switch [REDACTED] is coming and sell my trusty Switch to anyone willing to throw me some certified JPY.

And with that JPY I will probably just end up buying a Switch OLED anyways and end up waving it around to myself going "yay, I did all that so that I can say look, I have a Switch...from JAPAN!!!"

I'm just that sure and to take one out of Jeff Grubb's book, don't quote me on this (but definitely make sure to quote me.)

 

[Skittzo]

If I am not wrong, 2023. is 1st release date, so it's not delayed publicly.

Why would they they wouldnt be comfortable when every previous Zelda had public delays, and when they have launch of new hardware with they could launch alongside, it too good opurtunity for Nintendo to miss it, if Switch 2 is really launching this year.

It was announced officially for 2022, so you are wrong. The first public delay happened last spring when they changed the 2022 release date to Spring 2023.

It's likely not the first delay behind the scenes though, considering it was announced in 2019 with a story trailer about half a year before COVID hit.

What I'm saying is that they probably decided it wasn't worth delaying it another half a year on top of all of the other delays.

 

[Mirev]

They could sell Switch and Switch 2 in any case, you can use same argument for any potential launch game,
but Zelda TotK would be huge marketing tool for Switch 2 launch, hardly Nintendo would pass such a oportunity if they releasing new hardware only 5-6 months after Zelda TotK launch.

TLoU for PS4 was released hole year after PS3 release, also Nintendo is not Sony, Nintendo looking to have huge game like launch title for hardware (especially now after Wii U).

"Nintendo is not" is something I hear since ever. Things change. Like "Nintendo will not use DLC like others" and then they're even announcing DLC before releases.

Put Zelda on Switch 1, then release a big graphics, frame, resolution and blabla update D1 only on Switch 2 that will ofc have some other game at launch.

 

[Simba1]

I think the fact that's it's a direct sequel could be a part of it. I'm sure Switch 2 will eventually have a Zelda game to call it's own.

And I also think if we wait and see, when they announce the Switch 2 it will have a decent batch of strong launch window titles that will be just fine without TotK being in there. (And I imagine they could also tease a heavy hitter exclusive or two, titles that aren't coming out within the first 6 months but will help build the hype and entice people to upgrade).

My bad, forget that had 2022. like year of release at first.