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Grubb and Quarterdann doing this whole "our sources say they're gonna delay the Direct" kinda feels like they're using the Queen's death as a way to get some eyes on themselves. Seems kinda gross.
 
Seem’s like the Queen’s funeral is on monday the 19th. 10 days from now. Doesn’t make sense to hold back the Direct as the two things won’t coincide.
 
Miraj said:
Grubb and Quarterdann doing this whole "our sources say they're gonna delay the Direct" kinda feels like they're using the Queen's death as a way to get some eyes on themselves. Seems kinda gross.
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But did Grubb say that exactly?

Edit: On his twitter he didn't say that. He said he hasn't been told anything but he's going to assume plans will change simply cause Nintendo is weird. Soooooooo
 
Only two things that would have been potentially worth delaying the Direct for in regards to losing mainstream news coverage would have been new hardware (which wouldn’t happen here) and Mario Movie stuff (which may (still) happen here). Both of those being so far out would be easy to just cut out and do separately.

The only question I have is if we can get to page 777 before the Direct is announced on Monday. It’s my favorite number!
 
Beedlebum said:
Seem’s like the Queen’s funeral is on monday the 19th. 10 days from now. Doesn’t make sense to hold back the Direct as the two things won’t coincide.
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Oh really? Well then I'm going to be quite upset, as that's the day season 51 of The Price Is Right is scheduled to begin, and you just know American networks will jump all over themselves to cover the funeral.
 
Hocot8 said:
But did Grubb say that exactly?

Edit: On his twitter he didn't say that. He said he hasn't been told anything but he's going to assume plans will change simply cause Nintendo is weird. Soooooooo
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I was paraphrasing. But he was openly speculating about the Direct delay on twitter and in twitch. I mean, his twitter feed is full of shitposts about her anyway. Regardless, it got people worried here about the Direct getting delayed until they saw Nate's tweets.
 
Man it'll be so much fun to see a general direct again, even if the timing isn't perfect for me. We've waited for so long!
 
Raccoon said:
I wish norm macdonald was still around to say inflammatory things about the queen on national television
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Trying desperately to think of a way to make the post in the Splatoon 3 review thread from last night into a copypasta for the Queen of England and Direct delay but I haven’t invested enough skill points into shitposting

Edit: I tried ;p
 
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Beelzemontheworld said:
Trying desperately to think of a way to make the post in the Splatoon 3 review thread from last night into a copypasta for the Queen of England and Direct delay but I haven’t invested enough skill points into shitposting
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Which post?
 
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Raccoon said:
I wish norm macdonald was still around to say inflammatory things about the queen on national television
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And with the Japanese Nintendo offices closed overnight, who from NOA had to step in and decide whether to delay the Direct?
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Beelzemontheworld said:
blah blah blah Nintendo Directs blah blah blah The Queen of England blah blah blah
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While I don’t think either thing should exist this clearly adresses the elephant in the room


I know there’s a lot of Direct fans here, but why act like another entry in the same year is welcome. Why accept Nintendo’s half measures in terms of announcing games in a video. This is pretty much the worst of both worlds, paying full price for directs that get a few trailers to then move to the next full priced direct. The directs would be so much more well received if it actually embraced the twitter model and was just a f2p constantly evolving tweet thread. You would be paying for NSO and maybe you could sell the single game announcements as standalone trailers as well, this has much more potential than simply releasing the directs at full price


This is especially ironic considering that the announcement of the very first direct was met with memes mocking England players, but now it basically fell in the same trap besides that it’s not yearly. Other than that, you know why Direct’s reputation isn’t the greatest outside of its fanbase, even among Nintendo fans? Well on top of the soundtrack being annoying and the character designs being extremely punchable besides the middle aged Japanese man with the lovely haircut, the problem is that the directs freaking killed the Queen of England. Yes, the British monarchy using the same model as Directs basically ruined them, every other monarchy now launches with very few content, gets some free updates down the line and then the queen dies. Directs brought a culture of mediocrity while being shielded from criticism purely by the goodwill of it having a unique concept back when it was announced in 2012


Sure, this last sentence is hyperbolic and none of this matters when the directs keep selling well and people like it enough to consider it worth full price regardless but clearly Nintendo isn’t properly using the strengths of the twitter model. The more they do that the more Queens, Elizabeth especially, will just no longer be considered by some of their fans
 
Beelzemontheworld said:
While I don’t think either thing should exist this clearly adresses the elephant in the room


I know there’s a lot of Direct fans here, but why act like another entry in the same year is welcome. Why accept Nintendo’s half measures in terms of announcing games in a video. This is pretty much the worst of both worlds, paying full price for directs that get a few trailers to then move to the next full priced direct. The directs would be so much more well received if it actually embraced the twitter model and was just a f2p constantly evolving tweet thread. You would be paying for NSO and maybe you could sell the single game announcements as standalone trailers as well, this has much more potential than simply releasing the directs at full price


This is especially ironic considering that the announcement of the very first direct was met with memes mocking England players, but now it basically fell in the same trap besides that it’s not yearly. Other than that, you know why Direct’s reputation isn’t the greatest outside of its fanbase, even among Nintendo fans? Well on top of the soundtrack being annoying and the character designs being extremely punchable besides the middle aged Japanese man with the lovely haircut, the problem is that the directs freaking killed the Queen of England. Yes, the British monarchy using the same model as Directs basically ruined them, every other monarchy now launches with very few content, gets some free updates down the line and then the queen dies. Directs brought a culture of mediocrity while being shielded from criticism purely by the goodwill of it having a unique concept back when it was announced in 2012


Sure, this last sentence is hyperbolic and none of this matters when the directs keep selling well and people like it enough to consider it worth full price regardless but clearly Nintendo isn’t properly using the strengths of the twitter model. The more they do that the more Queens, Elizabeth especially, will just no longer be considered by some of their fans
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Raccoon said:
idea: how much would you guys pay per view of a direct?

I can't imagine spending more than five dollars
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I'd just do what I did with sports for the most part ever since it went pretty much exclusively pay per view: read a summary/news report, because fuck that shit.
 
Raccoon said:
idea: how much would you guys pay per view of a direct?

I can't imagine spending more than five dollars
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Absolutely fucking none

I would not pay to watch an advertisement for more things I'll have to pay for

Rooster said:
I'll pay to watch a Direct if they discount that much from any games showcased within that I may buy.
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Okay that's something I might consider. 😅
 
Raccoon said:
okay, spending money on a direct seems ridiculous but the "directs are just advertisement" people befuddle me

why are you here???
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It's a facile statement. Technically true in the most obvious sense but (willfully) ignorant of people's relationships to media, especially interactive media, and what it's like to anticipate that media.
 
Miraj said:
I was paraphrasing. But he was openly speculating about the Direct delay on twitter and in twitch. I mean, his twitter feed is full of shitposts about her anyway. Regardless, it got people worried here about the Direct getting delayed until they saw Nate's tweets.
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Well let's not paraphrase. This place, like the internet as a whole, overreacts all of the time.
 
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MondoMega said:
Yeah i’m sure Nintendo’s suits in Japan all got up in the middle of the night and on the spot decided to delay the direct; before falling right back asleep.

What a totally logical rumor.
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Honestly what really happened was their contact at NoE (I am saying Europe specifically for a reason) probably went "Boy, I hope we won't have to delay the Direct over this!" & it was meant sarcastically but sarcasm doesn't translate well in text & especially not if you're an American with no real idea how big of a deal her death is in Europe. So he might have taken it seriously.

And as a European, let me tell you: All media outside of the UK itself will be done with this topic - at least when it comes to coverage that exceeds the normal amount - by the end of the weekend. If Nintendo was gonna get affected by this they should have delayed because Europe is facing inflation, possible recession, and a gas and electricity crisis. All things that could actually affect their sales because people have less money to go around - & also way more consistently and heavily covered by the news.

Of course I am just joking around and making this up, but it at least seems more likely to me than Japanese businessmen getting up at night because the Queen of England MIGHT die (let's remember, they started speculating on this before she was even officially pronounced dead...regardless of if she alrd might have been behind the scenes, they would at least wait for official confirmation before they even start discussing this).
 
Raccoon said:
idea: how much would you guys pay per view of a direct?

I can't imagine spending more than five dollars
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If they don't announce a new Donkey Kong game, zero dollars.

If they do announce a new Donkey Kong game, all the dollars.
 
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Raccoon said:
okay, spending money on a direct seems ridiculous but the "directs are just advertisement" people befuddle me

why are you here???
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The community.

shoptroll said:
Isn’t this basically D23, Star Wars Celebration, Comic-Con, PAX, Gamescom, TGS though?
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See my above answer, actually. I would 100% pay to be present at an event with other fans, the creators, etc. To feel part of the community, the experience. Honestly I'm super jealous when I see the Nintendo Store NYC videos of crowds watching the Directs together because I'd love to do that if they had a similar presence in California.

But I wouldn't pay to watch them on youtube in my living room.
 
LiC said:
It's a facile statement. Technically true in the most obvious sense but (willfully) ignorant of people's relationships to media, especially interactive media, and what it's like to anticipate that media.
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While I agree that calling it “just an advertisement” lacks the nuance surrounding the culture around directs and how people will eventually engage with the games (products) being advertised, I still think it’s important to recognize in the end it is just an advertisement even if that advertisement is fun.

Like I personally love all the speculation leading up to directs, the following discussion, I love discussion surrounding video games and how fandom grows from that, etc. But like I think you can participate in all that and appreciate all that while still knowing these “events” are just ways for Nintendo to get us excited about products that are a part of our favorite hobby and to convince us to buy them. Maybe that’s too cynical but after growing up in a world full of constant advertisement where companies constantly find new sneaky ways to push their product (quirky relatable corporate twitters).

Now if we’re talking about old directs where they spend 10 minutes on interviews with the Yoshi Woolly World Developers, it’s still an advertisement but it does more in trying to convince me it’s not ;p
 
Just caught winds of a potetial Direct delay due to a recent event. Understandable but still... 😅 Glad Splatoon 3 is already out now.
 
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Raccoon said:
idea: how much would you guys pay per view of a direct?

I can't imagine spending more than five dollars
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I would spend more than I’m willing to admit to make a direct happen, but it would come with the stipulation that I get trailers from their AAA studios like retros, epd tokyo, and the Zelda team.
 
In BOTW2 Zelda actually dies when she falls down that cliff. Though because she had been the only one left in the royal family, she was the last queen of Hyrule. So the folks in Hyrule decide to go fully democratic because they have enough of this family with alleged super powers that still manages to fuck everything up because they rely too much on someone that does everything else except saving the world. But because that storyline is so close to Britain unsolved issues, Nintendo decided out of respect of the UK still clinching on their sorry monarchy to delay BOTW2 indefinitely until they get rid of it.
 
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Beelzemontheworld said:
While I agree that calling it “just an advertisement” lacks the nuance surrounding the culture around directs and how people will eventually engage with the games (products) being advertised, I still think it’s important to recognize in the end it is just an advertisement even if that advertisement is fun.

Like I personally love all the speculation leading up to directs, the following discussion, I love discussion surrounding video games and how fandom grows from that, etc. But like I think you can participate in all that and appreciate all that while still knowing these “events” are just ways for Nintendo to get us excited about products that are a part of our favorite hobby and to convince us to buy them. Maybe that’s too cynical but after growing up in a world full of constant advertisement where companies constantly find new sneaky ways to push their product (quirky relatable corporate twitters).

Now if we’re talking about old directs where they spend 10 minutes on interviews with the Yoshi Woolly World Developers, it’s still an advertisement but it does more in trying to convince me it’s not ;p
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It's not cynical to say a Direct is advertising; it's just -- at best -- obvious and uninteresting.

At worst, it's a pejorative, "just advertising," as if the people who are excited for Directs are being misled into something, and wouldn't be excited if they realized the purpose was to advertise, or shouldn't be excited because that's giving Nintendo's evil marketing department what they want. Which is all extremely dumb for reasons I shouldn't have to explain. Advertising is a fascinating and nuanced subject from an academic perspective, but from the perspective of "should people get excited about announcements and reveals for video games they plan to buy with their disposable income and enjoy for hours," it's much more simple.
 
I’d pay a few dollars to see a Direct at, like, a theater. Mostly because then I’d be seeing it with a bunch of other nerds crazy enough to spend money to see it in a theater, and I think that would be fun and the hype would be contagious.

I know Sony has partnered with theaters to host fan events for some of their presentations, where people get to see the trailers on the big screen and also get like a poster to take home or whatnot. If Nintendo did the same I’d probably bite, as long as it wasn’t too much money.
 
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